Wednesday, October 29, 2025

Choosing to Let Kids Go Hungry

Popular Information's Judd Legum, Rebecca Crosby, and Noel Sims write about the false excuses the Republican controlled government gives for shutting down the government. Such as Democrats are working to get "health care for illegal immigrants" when millions of American citizens are about to lose their health care if the GOP pass their budget unchanged.

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Breaking News: All Americans who buy health insurance through Obamacare can now get a first look at how much prices will increase next year.[image or embed]

-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) Oct 29, 2025 at 11:38 AM

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Nobody cares about hungry kids.
--Eberly.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 02:08 PM

Eberly Cares.

Just like Pepperidge Farms Remembers.

About as Authentically Too.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-29 02:19 PM

See the impact of the BBB on each state here: democrats.org

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-29 02:34 PM

Thank you for posting that link.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-29 02:35 PM

Republicans have been saying for years that they have Plan to replace the ACA... Moses Mike said the other day it would, "be ready in a few weeks".

It was MTG who noted that 'the Plan' was locked up in the Secure Area and she wasn't allowed to see it... because it still does not exist.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-29 02:45 PM

We might just end childhood obesity. Fingers crossed.

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-29 03:09 PM

Joking about hungry kids is the kind of joke Eberly just doesn't care about.
Signed,
Eberly

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 03:10 PM

"Cruelty and humiliation have become the Trump administration's common currency."

George Packer

#8 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-10-29 03:21 PM

Oh pls! Trump was going to have a bigger and better aca to replace obamacare in his first administration.

So you think the gop will drop an alternative Healthcare program?

We are still waiting on his first administration's obligations.

#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-10-29 03:29 PM

We might just end childhood obesity. Fingers crossed.

#6 | Posted by visitor_

Your cult threw a tantrum when michelle obama tried to do that.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-29 03:54 PM

Oh pls! Trump was going to have a bigger and better aca to replace obamacare in his first administration.

So you think the gop will drop an alternative Healthcare program?

We are still waiting on his first administration's obligations.

#9 | Posted by fresno500

Bears repeating. Nail, meet squarely hit hammer head ...

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-10-29 04:11 PM

#10 who knew her approach would function by making the food unappealing enough they just threw it away instead.

#12 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-10-29 04:52 PM

There sure are going to be a bunch of republicans who want a "nanny state" to feed them.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2025-10-29 05:20 PM

We might just end childhood obesity. Fingers crossed.
#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-29 03:09 PM

42 million without SNAP, would be starving around 17 million children.

Your caloric meter adjusts from Palestinian to American so easily, right?

#14 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-10-29 05:45 PM

#10 who knew her approach would function by making the food unappealing enough they just threw it away instead.

#12 | Posted by kwrx25

And the republican "christian" approach is to starve them til they're willing to eat trash.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-29 06:02 PM

All the Democrats have to do is give up free health insurance for illegals, but they'd rather poor American children go hungry instead.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-29 08:26 PM

you keep saying that lie.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-29 08:46 PM

Republicans have been voting to open the government, what exactly do the Democrats want?

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-29 09:35 PM

to keep the ACA subsidies. uh duh.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-29 09:41 PM

All the Democrats have to do is give up free health insurance for illegals
#16 | Posted by visitor_

what exactly do the Democrats want?
#18 | Posted by visitor_

You forgot your own talking point in the span of two posts?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 09:45 PM

- Republicans have been voting to open the government

No, they aren't even IN DC to vote.

Dems are there ready to votes, Trumpers can't be found.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-29 10:01 PM

"Republicans have been voting to open the government"

They have?
Why?

What do Republicans think the government needs to be open for?
Why don't Republicans save us taxpayers some $$$ like they always promise and never do?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 10:11 PM

I am 100% convinced Boaz especially hates this guy because of how mother fudging African he is.

Look at that hair! And that untamed name. Boaz is the kind of old man that was around when I was a kid who became emotionally upset when they saw a man with long hair. Except it's blacks acting all Native that triggers him. I would bet ten thousand dollars on this, which is more than half of the fake money on my Bank of America State of California EBT card!

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 10:20 PM

Aww man, wrong thread. No sense fixing it. Bet stands!

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-29 10:20 PM

"what exactly do the Democrats want?

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-29 09:35 PM | Reply | Flag:
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to keep the ACA subsidies. uh duh.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-29 09:41 PM | Reply |"

They shouldn't have sunsetted them in the first place. End the filibuster and pass a clean CR like the House did. Fight the ACA subsidy battle separately.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-10-30 12:12 AM

It was MTG who noted that 'the Plan' was locked up in the Secure Area and she wasn't allowed to see it... because it still does not exist.

You know things have gone sideways when MTG is a voice of reason for the Republican party.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:49 AM

#10 who knew her approach would function by making the food unappealing enough they just threw it away instead.

#12 | Posted by kwrx25

Turns out eating well and getting processed junk out of kid's diets would do that.

Or are you not all that familiar with the topic?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:55 AM

All the Democrats have to do is give up free health insurance for illegals, but they'd rather poor American children go hungry instead.

#16 | Posted by visitor_

All you have to do is give up being a lying sack of s(*&.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:56 AM

Just a reminder that the biological entity occupying the half-destroyed White House dismantled USAID and destroyed millions of dollars of food for hungry people in the Third World while he and his oligarch Republican cronies gorge themselves like deer ticks:

#29 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 06:20 AM

All the Democrats have to do is give up free health insurance for illegals, but they'd rather poor American children go hungry instead.

#16 | Posted by visitor_

All you have to do is give up being a lying sack of s(*&.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

The undocumented simply go around the roadblock by using emergency rooms for their healthcare, leaving the taxpayer on the hook..

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-10-30 12:19 PM


The undocumented simply go around the roadblock by using emergency rooms for their healthcare, leaving the taxpayer on the hook..
#30 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

But this has been true since I came to America, law passed in 1986 when Reagan gave illegal immigrants amnesty.

Though I thought ObamaCare was going to solve this. Not sure how the healthcare industry will handle it if everyone is off insurance because of prices.

With 2026 ACA plans officially live, a 64 YO couple in Morgantown with household income of $85k will see their premiums for the same plan increase by over $4,000 *per month*

Its unfortunate for Obamacare that COVID came along and allowed Pelosi to paint over the true costs of Obamacare. America would have been better served to always pay the costs up front.

#31 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 12:28 PM


to keep the ACA subsidies. uh duh.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-29 09:41 PM | Reply |"

They shouldn't have sunsetted them in the first place. End the filibuster and pass a clean CR like the House did. Fight the ACA subsidy battle separately.
#25 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Never understood why Pelosi put in the sunset, unless of course it made the CBO score for the COVID relief go non-linear.

Already was 3Trillion....
www.cmadocs.org

Then she did it again with ARA....
With our American Rescue Plan, Democrats expanded the promise of the Affordable Care Act to make health care more affordable and accessible than ever before " saving a family of four an average of $2,400 in annual premiums. Now, by enacting the Inflation Reduction Act, we extend and expand the ACA subsidies from the American Rescue Plan for another three years " locking in lower health care premiums that allow 13 million people to stay on their affordable plans and save an average of $800 a year.
pelosi.house.gov

All this did was increase the premiums. Incredibly short sighted, but just covering over the problems instead of fixing them.

Which come to think of it, is a valid reason not to continue the "subsidies".

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 12:36 PM

The ACA was passed because Republicans wouldn't give Dems anything else; it was basically their Corporate Bill, but they opposed it when Dems decided it was the best they could get.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-30 12:49 PM

All the Democrats have to do is give up free health insurance for illegals, but they'd rather poor American children go hungry instead.

#16 | Posted by visitor_

The people who tell you that democrats are fighting for healthcare for illegals are the same people who said obama wasn't a citizen and trump won in 2020. How many lies do you swallow before you start feeling like a fool?

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 01:24 PM

The undocumented simply go around the roadblock by using emergency rooms for their healthcare, leaving the taxpayer on the hook..

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds

White collar criminals steal far more from your pocket every year. But you know, they're WHITE, so it doesn't bother you.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 01:26 PM

The undocumented simply go around the roadblock by using emergency rooms for their healthcare, leaving the taxpayer on the hook..
#30 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Typical xenophobic rhetoric.

Fearmongering undocumented immigrants receiving pennies from our taxes while ignoring the wealthy taking millions in subsidies.

Hate is destroying America.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:31 PM

How many lies do you swallow before you start feeling like a fool?

That glutton?

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:32 PM

The undocumented simply go around the roadblock by using emergency rooms for their healthcare, leaving the taxpayer on the hook..

#30 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You do realize that there has to be an actual emergency to get care at an ED, right?

They're not going to give you an annual physical at an ED. You'll tell you to piss off.

So you do realize that this statement is stupid as f*&^, right?

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:33 PM

Hate is destroying America.
#36 | Posted by ClownShack

You misspelled stupidity.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-30 01:34 PM

You're right. It's a bad combo.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:36 PM

The "workaround" undocumented immigrants utilize to NOT DIE is the emergency room, just like regular citizens.

HOT DOG! The cult is on to something here!

#41 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-10-30 01:42 PM

The ACA was passed because Republicans wouldn't give Dems anything else; it was basically their Corporate Bill, but they opposed it when Dems decided it was the best they could get.
#33 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2025-10-30 12:49 PM | REPLY |

It's always someone else's fault for the Schitty legislation.

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-10-30 02:23 PM

It's always someone else's fault for the Schitty legislation.

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Was obamacare orginally a republican plan or not?

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 02:51 PM

It was a carbon copy of RomneyCare.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 02:55 PM

-The ACA was passed because Republicans wouldn't give Dems anything else

they didn't give a single vote for it.

That's no defense for the GOP.

the "Corporate Bill" was what got written to get democrats to vote for it.

The mandate removal is entirely on the GOP....and yes, the framework was a republican idea originally.....but so what?

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 03:08 PM

-It was a carbon copy of RomneyCare.

and that makes it less ------?

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 03:09 PM

American rice is ----.

You've obviously haven't had Minnesota wild rice.

As usual, you're totally ignorant. And anti-American.

#47 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-10-30 03:45 PM

#48 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 03:46 PM

the "Corporate Bill" was what got written to get democrats to vote for it.

The mandate removal is entirely on the GOP....and yes, the framework was a republican idea originally.....but so what?

#45 | Posted by eberly

The corporate bill is what democrats compromised on in order to try and get republican support.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 04:03 PM

USDJ Indira Talwani in Boston indicates that she will intervene to force the sinister Trumpf junta to ensure SNAP benefits continue through the Republican Party government shutdown: CNN

Her Honor is a geo-physicist nominated by POTUS Barack Obama.

#50 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 04:03 PM

-It was a carbon copy of RomneyCare.

and that makes it less ------?
#46 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Was RomneyCare ------?

I'm not sure.

What I am sure of is the Republican Party had zero interest in RomneyCare for the nation, because it was being proposed by a Black man.

Had Bill Clinton proposed it we wouldn't have seen the same refusal from republicans.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 04:12 PM

"Was RomneyCare ------?
I'm not sure."

Romneycare has been used as a deflection 8,000 times here when Obamacare is discussed.

I should matter to those who use it as a deflection......but apparently not.

Of course, it was all about the hypocrisy of the GOP.......which is real.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 05:11 PM

Romneycare has been used as a deflection 8,000 times here when Obamacare is discussed.
- eberlythegreatone

Romney care was just expanded Medicaid, but did require"coverage".

It didn't create a marketplace or put so many onerous requirements on private insurance.
For instance preexisting conditions, you could get state coverage through Medicaid.

#53 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 05:20 PM

Romneycare has been used as a deflection 8,000 times here when Obamacare is discussed.

What was being deflected?

You'll have to catch me up since I haven't a clue what your hyperbole is supposed to convey.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 05:48 PM

Romney care was just expanded Medicaid, but did require"coverage".

Is that what they taught you in China?

About RomneyCare.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 05:49 PM

-What was being deflected?

The imperfections of ACA.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 06:23 PM

Huh?

RomneyCare was being used as a deflection against Obamacare?

RomneyCare was used as the blueprint for Obamacare.

Where is the deflection?

Like specifically, if you actually wanna discuss this, you're gonna have to explain what you're talking about.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 06:34 PM

"They shouldn't have sunsetted them in the first place"

What a riot.

The tax giveaways for billionaires sunset as well.

Republicans had NO PROBLEM continuing what they wanted to continue.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-30 06:35 PM

How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate (2011)
www.forbes.com

... This came up at Tuesday's Western Republican Leadership Conference Debate, where Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich tussled on the question:

ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

GINGRICH: That's not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: And you never supported them?

GINGRICH: I agree with them, but I'm just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn't true.

(CROSSTALK)

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?

ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That's what I'm saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.

GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.

ROMNEY: OK.



#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 06:41 PM

Semantics semantics semantics.

If the power structures were rigged in favor of liberals instead of conservatives, democrats would be in charge and every american would have single payer healthcare, more money in their pocket, and years of their life not spent arguing with insurance companies or studying health plans.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 07:16 PM

"For instance preexisting conditions, you could get state coverage through Medicaid."

Only if you had no assets. Otherwise, you're in a high-risk pool.

Back the year before O-Care began, HRPs were charging $5000/mo, compared to a Cobra at that time costing ~$500-$600.

FTW, Cobra is usually equal to the highest-cost basic insurance for a 64yr old. Part of the reason is it's a catch-all, and part because it's more attractive to those who know they'll use it more.

MediCAID usually only kicks in when (almost) all other assets have been liquidated.

#61 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-30 07:21 PM

This is the start of forcing congress to do something. That's a lot of voters effected and dissatisfied. Flights being halted is next up if they dilly dally, which will bring yet more voters highly dissatisfied.

Trump will pretty much have to steal the election to keep it in the Repub majority at the rate it is going. Without it, it's pretty much a slam dunk against them and they continue to irate more and more voters they need to stay in power.

#62 | Posted by BBQ at 2025-10-30 07:25 PM

MediCAID usually only kicks in when (almost) all other assets have been liquidated.

It's a good way to end up in a nursing home permanently after they sell your house and take any other assets.

A single person, after a stroke, for example.

You can put your kids (or whoever) on the deed, but it needs to be at least 5 years before the claim. In Montana, anyway.

#63 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-10-30 07:32 PM

@#63 ... It's a good way to end up in a nursing home permanently after they sell your house and take any other assets. ...

Yup.

The current "healthcare for a profit" trend seems to have those goals in mind.

The local newspaper used to have a column about home foreclosures. When I had read that column, many (most?) seem to have been initiated by the local medical establishment. I note that I do not see that column anymore in the local newspaper.

Why do Americans need to become homeless in order to stay well


#64 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 07:43 PM

Why do Americans need to become homeless in order to stay well

Unfettered Capitalism.

This country is broken.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 07:50 PM

Great Recession hit and I didn't have a job and my half of the rent was $450 and my COBRA was $525.

So I had to choose, a place to live or health care.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 07:52 PM

Food for thought...no pun intended.

We want food prices to come down but there's no chance in hell grocery stores will do that unless they're forced to.

Now...there will be fewer dollars and fewer customers if SNAP benefits don't go out.

Will stores lower their prices a little, on some items, competing for fewer available dollars?

Something to ponder...

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-30 07:57 PM

The mandate removal is entirely on the GOP....and yes, the framework was a republican idea originally.....but so what?
#45 | Posted by eberly

So Republicans don't like their own idea, and deliberately financially crippled it in the name of freedom, but they can't come up with a better idea either.

Republicans will sabotage their own creation just because a Democrat implemented it successfully.

That's what.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 07:58 PM

The imperfections of ACA.
#56 | Posted by eberly

The next Republican bill to fix a imperfection in ACA will be the first.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 07:59 PM

Bills to fund SNAP are being introduced by Republicans and Democrats failed to vote for it because of other issues they are demanding.

We can't blame Republicans outright for the lack of SNAP funding.

#70 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-30 08:04 PM

Republican House members are still not is session, they are still NOT doing their jobs, they HIDING... while ALL Dems are there ready to vote.

Wake up, BJ.

#71 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-30 08:12 PM

@#67 ... We want food prices to come down but there's no chance in hell grocery stores will do that unless they're forced to. ...

The grocery stores are only passing on the costs they pay to their suppliers.

Why has the cost of groceries increased so much?

Well, maybe for farm goods ...

For example, how have the Trump tariffs affected the farm equipment mainstay, John Deere?

Here's a peek ...

In Wake of Trump Tariffs, John Deere Announces Mass Layoffs (August 2025)
finance.yahoo.com

... John Deere has been hit hard by President Donald Trump's tariffs. The farm equipment manufacturer and industry bellwether just announced mass layoffs affecting more than 200 workers at three Midwestern plants.

The company is set to fire 115 employees at a facility in East Moline, Illinois, later this month, according to the Des Moines Register. Next month, 52 workers at a facility in Moline, Illinois, and 71 employees at a facility in Waterloo, Iowa, will also reportedly be terminated.

"As stated on our most recent earnings call, the struggling ag economy continues to impact orders for John Deere equipment," said the company in a statement, per Illinois Public Media. "This is a challenging time for many farmers, growers and producers, and directly impacts our business in the near term."

In that same earnings call, John Deere attributed a slowdown in Q3 sales to customer cautiousness amid Trump's freewheeling tariff policy. ...



#72 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:13 PM

... and ...

Fertilizer prices on the rise for farmers, ranchers
texasfarmbureau.org

... Fertilizer costs remain a major concern as global trade disruptions and higher energy prices fuel fresh volatility for farmers and ranchers working within tight margins.

In a new Market Intel report, American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) Economist Faith Parum noted that while prices have not hit the record highs they reached in 2022, some products"like phosphates"are climbing higher.

"Phosphate fertilizers are leading the increase, while nitrogen products are showing month-to-month swings, and potash is rising due to trade policy risks," Parum wrote. ...

Fertilizer prices

Phosphates have had the sharpest price increase this year, with Gulf diammonium phosphate (DAP) prices rising from about $583 per ton in January 2025 to nearly $800 in August.

That's a 36% increase in less than eight months, creating new strain for already struggling crop budgets, Parum noted.

Monoammonium phosphate (MAP) has followed a similar trend, reflecting the same pressures in production costs and export availability.

Nitrogen markets have been mixed but still volatile. Urea prices rose sharply into the summer before easing modestly. Tampa ammonia settlements reached about $487 per metric ton in August, and some market signals suggest higher prices in September.

Urea Ammonium Nitrate (UAN) solutions have shown regional variation, with tighter supplies in areas farther from production hubs and import terminals, while regions closer to key river or rail transport routes have had more consistent availability. Parum said these swings highlight how quickly nitrogen prices can change in response to global trade and natural gas markets.

Potash prices are also up about 21% higher year-over-year globally, supported in part by U.S. concerns over Canadian imports and related tariff risk. ...


#73 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:19 PM

So... our great farmers are paying more for their basic needs, like fertilizer, thus making their cost of goods more expensive.

#74 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:21 PM

Trump will pretty much have to steal the election to keep it in the Repub majority at the rate it is going. Without it, it's pretty much a slam dunk against them and they continue to irate more and more voters they need to stay in power.

#62 | Posted by BBQ

Why would he not?

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-30 08:21 PM

Bills to fund SNAP
#70 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

SNAP is funded.

There's no need for bills.

Trump has told his *itches in Congress no to release it and has instructed Republican state governors not to either.

Trump hates America, and so does MAGA.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 08:23 PM

" ... the Trump administration's Department of Agriculture (USDA) is refusing to release billions of dollars in available emergency funds to continue Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits ... "

www.nytimes.com

www.gov.ca.gov

democracyforward.org

www.democracynow.org

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 08:26 PM


@#70 ... Bills to fund SNAP are being introduced by Republicans and Democrats failed to vote for it because of other issues they are demanding. We can't blame Republicans outright for the lack of SNAP funding. ...

Oh, yes, we can blame Republicans.

For example, why won't Republican leadership even talk with Democrats about a bi-partisan solution to the shutdown?

The Republicans seem to want to take the dictatorial approach towards Democrats, i.e., do what we want you to do, or nothing gets done.

That is not the way a Congress should work.

Unless, of course there is a Congress, like this Republican-controlled Congress, that seems to be so totally obsequious to the Oval Office that they apparently have difficulty being a co-equal branch of the government as the Constitution states they are.

#78 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:33 PM

@#76 ... SNAP is funded.

There's no need for bills. ...

Yup.

SNAP's Contingency Reserve Is Available for Regular SNAP Benefits, as USDA and OMB Have Ruled in Past (October 27, 2025)
www.cbpp.org

... The Trump Administration recently claimed that SNAP benefits are not available for November 2025 because SNAP's "contingency funds are not legally available to cover regular benefits."[1] This stands in opposition to the law and prior practice, including by the Trump Administration itself. ...


#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:36 PM

@#56 ... The imperfections of ACA. ...

...
Candidate Trump on healthcare:

May 21, 2015
I'm not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.

Sept 25, 2015
Everybody's got to be covered.

Feb 17, 2016
We're going to have great plans. They're going to be much less expensive and they're going to be much better.

Oct 25, 2016
You're going to have such great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it is going to be so easy.

Nov 13, 2016
It will be better healthcare, much better for less money. Not a bad combination.

"We're going to have insurance for everybody ... There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us."
-- Pres-elect Trump to the Washington Post in January 2017

Pres Trump on healthcare:

"Our healthcare plan will lower premiums & deductibles -- and be great healthcare!"
-- Trump tweet in May 2017
...



So, where is the Trump and Republican plan to fix the ACA?

I mean, they've had 10 years to figure out such a plan.

Where is it?




#80 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:35 PM

Why would their parents do this?

#81 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-10-30 09:36 PM

The good ole Unaffordable Care Act

So unaffordable that it can't survive without subsidies.

The true cost will shock the public and they will demand full repeal

#82 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-10-30 09:40 PM

@#72 ...The grocery stores are only passing on the costs they pay to their suppliers.

Why has the cost of groceries increased so much? ...

In the words of a fmr President...

It's the economy, stupid,' and the bad luck of George H.W. Bush (2018)
www.seattletimes.com

... When President George H.W. Bush was denied a second term by voters in 1992, his opponent (and future friend and surrogate son) Bill Clinton campaigned on the theme "It's the economy, stupid."

Bush had the misfortune to face a short but painful recession later in his term. Unemployment peaked at 7.8 percent in June 1992. That was mild compared with the 10.8 percent joblessness in 1982 during the "Reagan recession," but it was enough to wound a president who lacked his main opponent's "I feel your pain" public empathy. ...


#83 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:45 PM

"So unaffordable that it can't survive without subsidies."

I know, right!
My employer subsidizes 80% of my health insurance premium.
I wouldn't be surprised if that 80% is more than the Obamacare subsidy.

Any other brilliant observations you'd like to share?

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:46 PM

@#82 ... So unaffordable that it can't survive without subsidies. ...

Oh, I agree.

Healthcare for a profit has causalities, as I have been posting for months, if not years.

So, if I may be so bold to ask, why can't the greatest Country on the planet provide single-payer healthcare for its people?


#85 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:49 PM

why can't the greatest Country on the planet provide single-payer healthcare for its people?

Racism.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 09:54 PM

Now...there will be fewer dollars and fewer customers if SNAP benefits don't go out.
Will stores lower their prices a little, on some items, competing for fewer available dollars?
Something to ponder...
#67 | Posted by BillJohnson

It's good for business, and for America, when the economy shrinks, right?
Something to ponder...

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:56 PM

@#84 ... My employer subsidizes 80% of my health insurance premium. ...

You're one of the fortunate ones.

How many Americans work for small businesses that do not provide healthcare benefits?

How many Americans are self-employed and do not have health-care benefits?

To wit ...

Frequently Asked Questions About Small Business, 2023
advocacy.sba.gov

... Frequently Asked Questions about Small Business is a convenient place to find facts about the state of the small business economy, including the following:

- - - Most businesses are small- 99.9% of American businesses.

- - - There are 33,185,550 small businesses in the United States.

- - - Small businesses employ 61.7 million Americans, totaling 46.4% of private sector employees.

- - - From 1995 to 2021, small businesses created 17.3 million net new jobs, accounting for 62.7% of net jobs created since 1995.

- - - Small businesses pay 39.4% percent of private sector payroll.

- - - Small businesses generate 32.6% percent of known export value.

- - - About 38% of small businesses use specialized software in their business operations.
...



#88 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:57 PM

why can't the greatest Country on the planet provide single-payer healthcare for its people?
#85 | Posted by LampLighter

Racism.
#86 | Posted by ClownShack

Or, as the racists explain it:
"Counting or not counting gang violence?"

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:58 PM

There isn't a Republican alive who thinks blacks should get free health care.

It's okay for certain blacks, like the ones in the military, or the ones in Congress or on the Supreme Court.

But all blacks?

No ------- way do those n----- deserve a damn thing.

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:59 PM

@#86 ... Racism. ...

Nah.

My view is that it is more Capitalism, i.e., trying to favor the profits of the healthcare companies or, stated differently, the billionaire-run private equity firms who seem to be trying to take over our healthcare industry for their profits.


#91 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 10:01 PM

Food for thought...no pun intended.
We want food prices to come down but there's no chance in hell grocery stores will do that unless they're forced to.
Now...there will be fewer dollars and fewer customers if SNAP benefits don't go out.
Will stores lower their prices a little, on some items, competing for fewer available dollars?
Something to ponder...

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson

Wow, the republican mindset on fully display.

Let's starve a bunch of children so the prices go down.

Win-win

except for the starving children

Magat scum suck

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-30 10:03 PM

The racism was born of capitalism, so you're not really going to be able to untangle them the way you'd like to.

Capitalism makes money by people being poor and being on Medicaid.

Capitalism is why we have a poor black underclass.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 10:06 PM

"Let's starve a bunch of children so the prices go down."

On the bright side, they're more likely to go through life without ever being raped by White Republican Christians that way.

I wonder if boy BillJohson was raped by a White Republican Christian and it messed him up bad and that's why nothing he ever says really makes sense to him any more once we try to get him to connect the dots.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 10:09 PM

The racism was born of capitalism ....

Only an idiot would say something like this.


Capitalism is why we have a poor black underclass.

#93 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Let me guess Democrat putting them in socialist "projects" really helped them.

What idiotic drivel this is. Sober up, post tomorrow.

#95 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 10:13 PM

@#95 ... Let me guess Democrat putting them in socialist "projects" really helped them. ...

They had a place to live

And that is wrong, why?

#96 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 10:17 PM

"Let me guess Democrat putting them in socialist "projects" really helped them."

Jared Kushner is a Socialist?

U.S. Lawmakers Seek Kushner Company Records on Maryland Apartments
Democrats from the state's congressional delegation say articles by ProPublica, The New York Times Magazine and The Baltimore Sun raise "very serious and troubling concerns" about whether Kushner's businesses comply with federal housing standards.

www.propublica.org

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 10:25 PM

@#93 ... The racism was born of capitalism, so you're not really going to be able to untangle them the way you'd like to.

Capitalism makes money by people being poor and being on Medicaid.

Capitalism is why we have a poor black underclass. ...

Point taken.

#98 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 10:27 PM

One AI overview on the American food market which is dominated by a small number of US corporations:

Four corporations control about 85% of the national beef packing market, 85% of soybean processing, and 63% of pork packing: Cargill, Archer-Daniels Midland, Bunge, and Louis Dreyfus. Three companies control the entire $90 billion American chicken industry: Tyson, Pilgrim's Pride, and Perdue.
Four retail giants control 65% of the grocery retail market: Walmart, Costco, Kroger, and Ahold Delhaize.
Five to ten major food manufacturers control an average of 64% of all grocery sales, with the top four firms often controlling 40% or more of market share for nearly 80% of grocery items: Kraft Heinz, General Mills, Conagra, Unilever, and Delmonte.

In summary, the American food market is highly concentrated, with a handful of corporations controlling the majority of production, processing, and retail.

US GDP per capita is $85,809.90, yet 38 million Americans live at or below the poverty line, which represents roughly 11.6% of the population. Meanwhile, the average salary for CEOs of the major US food corporations is exceptionally high.

The average total compensation for CEOs at the 350 largest publicly traded US companies, including food and beverage giants, was about $22.98 million in 2024, up 6% from the previous year. For example, Coca-Cola's CEO received $54.5 million in total compensation for 2022, while Wendy's CEO was paid $17.3 million in 2023. McDonald's CEO earned around $18.2 million in 2025, and Starbucks' CEO made $96 million for just four months of work.

#99 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 11:32 PM

@#99 ... One AI overview on the American food market which is dominated by a small number of US corporations: ...

Yeah.

The Republican response to Americans going hungry reminds me of the Gene Kelly song, "Singing in the Rain."

Gene Kelly - Singin' in the Rain (1952)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
I'm singin' in the rain, just singin' in the rain
What a glorious feelin', I'm happy again
I'm laughin' at clouds so dark up above
The sun's in my heart and I'm ready for love
Let the stormy clouds chase everyone from the place
Come on with the rain, I've a smile on my face
I walk down the lane with a happy refrain
Just singin', singin' in the rain

Dancing in the rain
I'm happy again
...


The Republicans seem to be wallowing in the suffering of those who have issues putting food on the table for their family.


#100 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 11:56 PM

The good ole Unaffordable Care Act

So unaffordable that it can't survive without subsidies.

The true cost will shock the public and they will demand full repeal

#82 | Posted by THEBULL

Only every other civilized nation can figure out insurance for all it's citizens. It's only impossible for the USA because we're so awesome.

#101 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 12:20 AM

Lamp,

"The Republicans seem to be wallowing in the suffering of those who have issues putting food on the table for their family."

What an idiot.

You think all Republicans are rich and don't need SNAP.

The parties are playing chicken to see who gives in first.

Blaming one side is lazy.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:26 AM

Blaming one side is lazy.

Well.

One side wants to cut taxes for billionaires and assistance programs, including food and healthcare, for millions of Americans.

The other side wants billionaires to pay taxes and provide assistance, such as food and healthcare, to millions of Americans.

What would Jesus do?

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 12:31 AM

BullJohnson is firmly on the side of tax cuts for billionaires.

He's not too sure why.

It's because he's a poorly educated push over.

A person of weak will and zero confidence in himself.

An absolute loser.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 12:34 AM

Clown,

"What would Jesus do?"

He might perform a miracle and distribute fish from a basket that miraculously appears.

People today would complain they have to clean the fish and cook it.

Or complain they'd rather get Big Mac and fries.

#105 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:41 AM

@#102 ... What an idiot. ...

Whoa, that comment seems to be quite un-Christian of your alias.

That aside ...

... You think all Republicans are rich and don't need SNAP. ...

Have I ever stated that? Got link?

I have noted in the past that the shutdown may be affecting those who have voted for the current administration.

And I still stand by those comments.

Your #102 seems to agree with my former comment(s).

... Blaming one side is lazy. ...

OK, let's separate blame from effects. We discussed the effects above, i.e., an apparent misrepresentation of what I may have stated.

Now, let's go to the blame aspect...

Why won't the Republican leaders even want to negotiate with the Democrats?

Has Pres Trump reached his apparent goal of reducing the importance of Congress to the point that it seems to be irreverent?




#106 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-31 12:41 AM

#103 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

To end this, one side wants to pass the Biden Budget, the other side wants to add $1.5Trillion.

#107 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 12:42 AM

Clown,

Dems have had plenty of opportunities to institute tax reform.

But they don't.

You're gullible.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:44 AM

John Fugelsang
@JohnFugelsang

"NO FOOD FOR YOU UNTIL THE DEMOCRATS LET US TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTHCARE."

-US House Speaker Mike Johnson

#109 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 12:46 AM

The Tax Cut for Billionaires fan boys are trying to convince me Americans don't deserve healthcare or food, but billionaires deserve more money they'll never be able to spend.

They think it's a convincing argument.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 12:48 AM

One,

Arm chair analysts have all the answers.

I doubt anyone on this blog is remotely qualified to advise Congress.

Pardon me if I don't blame one side or the other.

#111 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:49 AM

@#109 ... John Fugelsang
@JohnFugelsang

"NO FOOD FOR YOU UNTIL THE DEMOCRATS LET US TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTHCARE."

-US House Speaker Mike Johnson ...

Well, yeah, that is one aspect of this government shutdown.

Another aspect is (if I may be allowed to paraphrase...)

... ~No House in session until I can say to Pres Trump that there won't be a vote to release the Epstein files.~
              -US House Speaker Mike Johnson


#112 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-31 12:52 AM

Dems have had plenty of opportunities to institute tax reform.
But they don't.

Republicans have passed tax cuts for the wealthy every time they've had the opportunity.

Every time a Republican is the President the debt skyrockets.

Every time a Democrat is the president they work to reduce the debt.

You're gullible.
#108 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

You're an idiot.

#113 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 12:54 AM

One,

I'll wait and see how this is resolved and who gets screwed before I form an opinion.

There's pros and cons to every decision I wouldn't possibly know about. I doubt the people in Congress fully understand the full ramifications of their options.

How many times has some bill had unanticipated consequences?

#114 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:57 AM

Clown,

Don't you think we're way past pretending we care about rising debt.

I think we've seen after Musk how reducing debt is a problem.

I say drive this bus off the cliff and hopefully Wall Street won't crash until I'm gone.

#115 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 01:01 AM

@#114 ... before I form an opinion. ...

It seems to me that you may have already formed an opinion ...

To wit ...

@#108 ... You're gullible. ...

@#102 ... What an idiot. ...


etc.

What else yer got?


#116 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-31 01:03 AM

@#115 ... Don't you think we're way past pretending we care about rising debt. ...

So, your comment seems to be against the tax cut for billionaires that Pres Trump proposed and had passed by Congress?

What Does the One Big Beautiful Bill Cost?
bipartisanpolicy.org

... On July 4, 2025, President Trump signed H.R. 1, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBB), into law. OBBB permanently extends trillions of dollars of 2017 tax cuts that were scheduled to expire on December 31, 2025, adds new tax cuts into the mix like no tax on overtime and an additional senior deduction, and partially pays for these tax cuts with changes to Medicaid, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), and student loan programs.

If you'd like to learn more about the law, check out what's in the Republican tax law and what's in the entire OBBB.

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act will cost $3.4 trillion over the next 10 years, and more than $4 trillion when accounting for additional interest owed on the national debt. Read below for a breakdown of these costs, year by year and provision by provision. ...



#117 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-31 01:28 AM

Brook Benton - A Rainy Night In Georgia (1970)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ..

genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
Hoverin' by my suitcase
Tryin' to find a warm place
To spend the night
Heavy rain fallin'
Seems I hear your voice callin'
It's all right

[Chorus]
A rainy night in Georgia
A rainy night in Georgia
It seems like it's rainin' all over the world
I feel like it's rainin' all over the world
...


#118 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-31 01:37 AM

House Speaker Mike Johnson signed a bill cutting a projected $186 billion from SNAP.

www.snopes.com

Regardless of what democrats do, Republicans only goal is to hurt Americans.

#119 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 02:47 AM

Nefarious House Speaker Mike Johnson signed a bill cutting a projected $186 billion from SNAP.
www.snopes.com

Regardless of what democrats do, Republicans only goal is to hurt Americans.

#119 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 02:47 AM | Reply | Flag: The Emeth

House Speaker Republican Mike Johnson is a demon in human form.

We need reporter Carl Kolchak (AKA 'The Night Stalker")


#120 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-31 05:31 AM

Carl Kolchak: You must really enjoy your work.
Nurse Eisen: A well-done autopsy is a joy forever.

#121 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-31 05:46 AM

Carl Kolchak: You must really enjoy your work.
Nurse Eisen: A well-done autopsy is a joy forever.

#121 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-31 05:46 AM | Flag: Great Memory

An unfinished Kolchak episode was to have our intrepid reporter investigating government officials replaced by aliens. Contract problems scrubbed that episode as well as that great TV series.

Back to the rub: The sinister, smirking Mike Johnson is a demon in human form.

#122 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-31 07:28 AM

Lamp,

"So, your comment seems to be against the tax cut for billionaires that Pres Trump proposed and had passed by Congress?"

The bill doesn't just cut taxes for billionaires. It also extends the lower individual rates from Trump's 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) and makes the nearly doubled standard deduction permanent.

That move actually benefits a lot of middle-class families who don't itemize.

Trump put the TCJA in place back in 2017, and it's one of the few things that really did help the middle class.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 08:02 AM

Trump doesn't get enough credit for something big he did in 2019.

He ordered automatic student loan forgiveness for people who were totally and permanently disabled.

It started with veterans, then expanded to everyone on disability.

No forms, no long approval process.

Dems see themselves as champions of the needy.

Why didn't they do something like this?

#124 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 09:30 AM

Christ you're ------- dumb

If ------- did that, dems wouldn't need to do that. You understand that, right?

Dems DID forgive student loans and republicans stopped them including the SC which through a power grab unlawfully stopped the forgiveness program

How exemplary is it for a magat scum to criticize dems for not doing student loan forgiveness?!

#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-31 10:20 AM

So... our great farmers are paying more for their basic needs, like fertilizer, thus making their cost of goods more expensive.

#74 | Posted by LampLighter

95% of potash used in the US annually is imported. And over 90% of that comes from Canada. Additionally, other needed fertilizers are also imported.

Why did you hurt us, Trump?!

- American farmers and consumers

#126 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-10-31 10:27 AM

2013 Obama said pass a clean CR
All of this is entirely preventable if the House chooses to do what the Senate has already done -- and that's the simple act of funding our government without making extraneous and controversial demands in the process, the same way other Congresses have for more than 200 years.

#127 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-10-31 11:04 AM

Truth,

Massive student loan forgiveness would have drove tuition even higher.

Trump's was more a common sense approach based on not being able to work.

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 11:11 AM

Trump is a traitor to his country, a convicted fraud, and a convicted sexual assault artist.

Also he, unlike others associated with Epstein, was his Wingman and "Secret" sharer.

Anything else he's ever done pails in comparison.

And also makes the Whataboutisms to what any current Dem has ever done absurd.

#129 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-31 11:21 AM

Trump's was more a common sense approach

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson

Donald Trump is not driven by common sense.

We could start with soybeans, if you want.

You've just proven that you don't understand what common sense is.

#130 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-31 11:26 AM

-We could start with soybeans, if you want.

I would imagine this has been posted already but in case it hasn't.....

apnews.com

#131 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-31 11:30 AM

The first few Comments at that link are spot on.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-31 11:35 AM

132

which would explain why this hasn't gotten much attention?

#133 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-31 11:43 AM

Truth,
Massive student loan forgiveness would have drove tuition even higher.
Trump's was more a common sense approach based on not being able to work.
#128 | Posted by BillJohnson a

uGH

Forgiving loans for tuition that has already been paid would impact tuition costs, how?

That's like saying paying off medical debt will make healthcare costs rise

that's like saying paying off mortgage debt will make housing prices rise

that's like saying paying off auto loans will make car prices rise

And of course when ------- does it it DOESN'T make tuition prices rise

#134 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-31 11:44 AM

My parents were really old when they had me"mid-40s. Old enough that they were teenagers during The Great Depression.

They had so many insane stories about that time. Oatmeal for dinner. Kids sleeping 4 to a bed. My grandfather going out in the street at night looking for cigarette butts so he could pull out enough tobacco to roll his own cigarette. All the kids going to work in their late teens and giving all their money to my widowed grandmother so the entire family could survive.

They were poor.

One other theme that always echoed from those stories was that they "never went on relief." ("Relief" was what they called government welfare programs back then.)

They were so proud of that fact. It was shameful to go "on relief," and they never did.

What happened to that America?

CynicalPublius

#135 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-31 11:49 AM

What happened to that America?

135 | Posted by visitor

What would MAGA call someone who takes tobacco butts to roll his own?

Case closed.

#136 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-31 11:53 AM

Being poor is traumatic. Hit hurts people permanently.

Love your reverence for suffering.

I want to see you do it.

#137 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-31 11:55 AM

the same way other Congresses have for more than 200 years.

#127 | POSTED BY PETROUS

Nothing this President does or this administration does or what this Congress does or what the DOJ does now is being done the way we have done it for more than 200 years.

#138 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-31 12:00 PM

Visit,

At my age I've seen a drastic change in society from my youth to now.

One thing I hear over and over is "work ethic".

I expect sociologists could tell you all sorts of explanations for the change.

But simply put, people in America today are taught to stick their hand out expecting soneone to give them sonething for nothing, instead of looking for work.

Thats a great generalization but there's truth to it.

A lot of it depends on if you were raised by liberals or conservatives.

#139 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 12:15 PM

Blaming one side is lazy.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson

When it comes to taking healthcare from the poor, only one side is to blame.

#140 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 12:53 PM

At my age I've seen a drastic change in society from my youth to now.

One thing I hear over and over is "work ethic".

I expect sociologists could tell you all sorts of explanations for the change.

#139 | Posted by BillJohnson

Any intelligent sociologist will tell you that when the rich stopped taking care of their workers, their workers stopped caring about their jobs.

It's called breaking the social contract.

#141 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 12:54 PM

One thing I hear over and over is "work ethic".

Arbeit macht frei!!

#142 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-31 01:00 PM

It's called breaking the social contract.

#141 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Nailed it.

#143 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-31 01:01 PM

No one is taking away healthcare. It's subsidized health insurance. If you are too poor to pay the premiums you are likely too poor to pay the deductibles and co-pays. So no healthcare, just a gift to the Health Insurance Industrial Complex. The real patrons of the Democrat ruling class.

#144 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-31 01:28 PM

No one is taking away healthcare. It's subsidized health insurance.
#144 | Posted by visitor_

You're an idiot.

#145 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:32 PM

SNAP has an Emergency Fund to continue SNAP benefits specifically in the event of a government shutdown.

Government doesn't need to be open for SNAP to work.

But Republicans refuse to release the funds.

#146 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:35 PM

How is SNAP a failure?

If everyone has already paid into it, what is the reason for misdirecting appropriated funding away from this wildly successful program?

Why can't it continue to keep 17 million children fed?

Think of the elders, handicap and medically fragile.

Work ethic? Americans are underpaid, overworked and overcharged.

Even some homeless work full time, some are full-time mothers.

Education is expensive and not any guarantee for better wage opportunities.

It is impossible to make rent on a single job and has been for quite a while now.

Wages do not increase, only the hurdles and obstruction.

I do not recognize this society, having become unknown to me.

#147 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-10-31 01:37 PM

Gocers rely on SNAP, particularly during the holidays.

Again, Trump is destroying local economies.

#148 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-10-31 01:38 PM

You think all Republicans are rich and don't need SNAP.
#102 | Posted by BillJohnson

No you --------.

Republicans think that.

House Speaker Mike Johnson signed a bill cutting a projected $186 billion from SNAP.

#149 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:39 PM

One thing I hear over and over is "work ethic".
#139 | Posted by BillJohnson

You don't work with any young people, do you?
Be honest.

#150 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:47 PM

At my age I've seen a drastic change in society from my youth to now.
...
But simply put, people in America today are taught to stick their hand out expecting soneone to give them sonething for nothing, instead of looking for work.
#139 | Posted by BillJohnson

And who taught them that?

Your generation.

#151 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 01:48 PM

At my age I've seen a drastic change in society from my youth to now.
One thing I hear over and over is "work ethic".
I expect sociologists could tell you all sorts of explanations for the change.
But simply put, people in America today are taught to stick their hand out expecting soneone to give them sonething for nothing, instead of looking for work.
Thats a great generalization but there's truth to it.
A lot of it depends on if you were raised by liberals or conservatives.
#139 | Posted by BillJohnson

You can always tell who never went to college...or graduated high school.

Sociologists will tell you that you are an idiot. This "work ethic" stuff is literally what EVERY generation says about the younger generation and it goes back THOUSANDS of years.

No, Bill, the younger generation hasn't changed. You're just a whiny boomer.

What has changed? The price of everything compared to wages.

50 years ago, you could pay for an entire year of college on a summer job.

40 years ago, it was NORMAL for someone with a high school diploma to afford a home and family of 4 on just their salary.

30 years ago, the price of health insurance was an afterthought in your paycheck.

20 years ago, we were more worried about kids eating junk food than we were about being able to afford to get groceries at all.

You call it hand outs because you are too damn self centered to realize how good you had it.

#152 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-31 02:00 PM

No one is taking away healthcare. It's subsidized health insurance.

#144 | Posted by visitor_

Tell that to the people who will lose their subsidies and then not be able to afford their insurance, which is also rapidly getting more expensive.

#153 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 02:03 PM

-This "work ethic" stuff is literally what EVERY generation says about the younger generation and it goes back THOUSANDS of years.

You're right. Not sure how far it goes back....centuries at least, but you're right.

#154 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-31 02:10 PM


which is also rapidly getting more expensive.
#153 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

False, its been on the same trajectory, its just been papered over by subsidies, Pelosi chose to hide it rather than deal with it.

#155 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 02:14 PM

Feed the hungry.

If it's good enough for Jesus it's good enough for me.

#156 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-31 02:14 PM

False, its been on the same trajectory, its just been papered over by subsidies, Pelosi chose to hide it rather than deal with it.

#155 | Posted by oneironaut

Yes it's been on the same trajectory because we didn't cut out the corporate middlemen who get richer by ripping us off.

Only before, the rich were subsizing the system so the poor could have healthcare. Fascists are ending that. So the rich will be richer and the poor will be sicker. Does that make america great?

#157 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 02:17 PM

Pelosi chose to hide it rather than deal with it.
#155 | Posted by oneironaut

Pelosi isn't part of the government any longer.

But Republicans are.

What are Republicans choosing to do about it?

#158 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-31 02:19 PM

"its been on the same trajectory, its just been papered over by subsidies"

Pick up a history book, ffs.

The decade before Obamacare, inflation was 31%, while medical inflation was 131%. That's more than FOUR TIMES the inflation rate.

Add that to the fact baby boomers were virtually ALL about to be thrown into high-risk pools, since it's tough to get out of your 50s without a "pre-existing condition".

Obamacare, coupled with the Bush Bust & Bailout, altered the trajectory of medical inflation. THAT's what Health Plan Trustees were most scared of. I should know, I was a Health Plan Trustee.

And btw...if O-Care was papered over by subsidies, why did consumers (like me) get premium rebates???

#159 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-31 02:25 PM


-This "work ethic" stuff is literally what EVERY generation says about the younger generation and it goes back THOUSANDS of years.
You're right. Not sure how far it goes back....centuries at least, but you're right.

#154 | Posted by eberly

I doubt it EberlyTheGreat. I am of the opinion Boomers and those in their 50's have had the greatest luck in all history. Rode the GreatestGeneration's success setup, since the 80s interest rates have been going down until now. Labor has been getting cheaper since illegal immigration went through the roof. Stock market has been funded by US fiat currency.

Today Boomers are setup to transfer all their wealth, not to their children, but to the geriatric medical industry, as they just won't go "softly into the night", its already remaking the economy of EVERY state.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/07/03/business/economy/healthcare-jobs.html

To quote the other Great, RickyBobby -> "No one lives forever, no one. But with advances in modern science and my high level income, it's not crazy to think I can live to be 245, maybe 300.", what he's saying is, too bad millenials, and X ... I'll be back home in China, collecting my SS.

Boomers were the laziest of generations. Nothing compares.

#160 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 02:26 PM

Pelosi isn't part of the government any longer.
~ SnoofyTheExcuseMaker

All part of the plan ...

Stick it to future generations to solve, make her millions.

#161 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 02:27 PM

Snoofy is a riot...

Snoofy will go on and on about how Pelosi isn't in the government to excuse the malfeasance of covering up the debacle.

But oh my god anyone blame Hamas for the ---- storm they just received, and he goes all the way back to 1948 talking about gneocide.

Even worse, bring up GeorgeWashington ... and Snoofy will point out he's a worthless SOB that has slaves ... ergo America is built on fraud and is worthless.

You're riot Snoofy.

#162 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 02:32 PM

Speak,

"Only before, the rich were subsizing the system so the poor could have healthcare."

Adding to your line of thinking, the rich in the past subsidized through many forms of patronage.

The rich had an element of noblesse oblige, a cultural expectation to give back.

Today, the rich have greatly expanded their wealth, relatively speaking.

Before, they might have a few hundred million and were considered rich. Now a few hundred million makes them pop star rich, but not tech super-rich into the billions.

The rich today hoard vastly larger amounts of wealth that could do a great deal more to benefit humanity.

Your line of thinking is right on.

But let's be honest. Both Democrats and Republicans are part of it.

Don't fantasize it's only Republicans.

#163 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 02:36 PM

The rich today hoard vastly larger amounts of wealth that could do a great deal more to benefit humanity.

Your line of thinking is right on.

But let's be honest. Both Democrats and Republicans are part of it.

Don't fantasize it's only Republicans.

#163 | Posted by BillJohnson

The fantasy is that you're not retarded if you can't see that democrats raise taxes on the rich to help the working class and republicans cut taxes on the rich to screw the working class.

You have to be stupid or pretend to be stupid in order to think both sides treat the rich/poor the same.

#164 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 02:39 PM

Speak,

Much of this hoarded wealth is the direct result of the government going so deeply in debt.

That's an added element that has changed since the past. That's the big difference now.

The rich aren't just earning it, they're collecting it from public debt.

#165 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 02:43 PM

"Snoofy will go on and on about how Pelosi isn't in the government to excuse the malfeasance of covering up the debacle."

That's probably because Pelosi's "job" was ceremonial. Just like the Senator who had the same job: Mitch McConnell.

Ever notice NO ONE who blames Pelosi EVER mentions McConnell? Whatever "blame" is due Pelosi, is equally due McConnell, yet no Pelosi-basher EVER MENTIONS McCONNELL.

Is that ignorance, or partisan hackery?

#166 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-31 02:46 PM

"Much of this hoarded wealth is the direct result of the government going so deeply in debt."

Then you should blame the authors of that debt.

Clinton handed true surplus budgets to George W. Bush. Dubya, Cheney, and the Republicans chose to alter our fiscal sights from surpluses to record deficits.

Not a single Democratic vote to reset fiscal sights from surpluses to deficits.

I'd say pick up a history book...but you LIVED THROUGH IT and still don't seem to understand.

#167 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-31 02:50 PM

"The rich aren't just earning it, they're collecting it from public debt."

IOW, instead of taxing the rich enough, they're undertaxing the rich so they have to borrow from them.

Sounds like a circular problem.

#168 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-31 02:52 PM

Speak,

Either way, the super rich get richer.

The middle class and upper-middle class foot the bill...always.

#169 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 02:54 PM

Dan,

"Clinton handed true surplus budgets to George W. Bush. Dubya, Cheney"

The 90s internet boom built the revenue.

Gingrich balanced the budget.

Clinton showed up for the signature photo-op.

#170 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-31 02:59 PM

I say drive this bus off the cliff and hopefully Wall Street won't crash until I'm gone.
#115 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

Translation: "I gots mine! Fkkk America!"

The Republican Party in a nutshell shell.

#171 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:01 PM

Speak,

Much of this hoarded wealth is the direct result of the government going so deeply in debt.

That's an added element that has changed since the past. That's the big difference now.

The rich aren't just earning it, they're collecting it from public debt.

#165 | Posted by BillJohnson

That debt exploded when republicans invented reaganomics - massive tax cuts for the rich to be paid for by you.

#172 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 03:01 PM

Either way, the super rich get richer.

Hello again Fake Plastic Christian!

I am sure you've heard the old saying,

It takes money to make money.

Welcome to unbridled unrestrained unregulated crony capitalism.

#173 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-31 03:02 PM

Speak,

Either way, the super rich get richer.

The middle class and upper-middle class foot the bill...always.

#169 | Posted by BillJohnson

Only as long as fools like you keep voting for the party that cuts taxes on the rich instead of the party that raises them.

#174 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 03:02 PM

The 90s internet boom built the revenue.
Gingrich balanced the budget.
Clinton showed up for the signature photo-op.
#170 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

And then BushJr showed up, gave unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and increased our national debt by getting us caught up in 20 years of war in the Middle East.

#175 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:04 PM

"Fake Plastic Christian!"

Perfect description for BullJohnson, the Fake Plastic Christian!

#176 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:05 PM

Bathhouse Bill lies again.

The Clinton years showed the effects of a large tax increase that Clinton pushed through in his first year, and that Republicans incorrectly claim is the "largest tax increase in history." It fell almost exclusively on upper-income taxpayers. Clinton's fiscal 1994 budget also contained some spending restraints.

www.factcheck.org

#177 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-10-31 03:05 PM


Only as long as fools like you keep voting for the party that cuts taxes on the rich instead of the party that raises them.
#174 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

You have no idea how this works? Did you learn anything from the USAID teardown?

Most taxes/and grandkids taxes, go to the rich people (>$400K/yr) sucking up to the government.
Increasing taxes doesn't help anyone, just look at CA more homeless, more crime, more grift and graft.

Wake up.

#178 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-31 03:07 PM

Fascist Republicans moving onto military bases while homeless vets sleep in the streets exemplifies their fraudulant patriotism, nationalism and humanity.

Economically and sociologically this will be among the worst holiday seasons since Covid began, imo.

Mid-terms can't come quickly enough.

#179 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-10-31 03:08 PM

"Gingrich balanced the budget."

Do you call it The Reagan Revolution? Or the Tip O'Neil compromise? For better or worse, Presidents get the nod.

And regardless who balanced it, Republicans chose to unbalance it, and give tax cuts to the world's wealthiest instead.

Bush II was the most lopsided tax code I'd ever seen: 27% went to the wealthiest 1%. By comparison, 83% of Trump 1.0 went to the wealthiest 1%. In fact, more went to FOREIGN investors than to American workers.

Why don't you put the blame on the authors, for getting exactly what they wanted???

#180 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-10-31 03:10 PM

"Too much month and not enough check" plagued the US poor and working class before the Republican government shutdown and funding lapse. To wit, business is booming for America's car repossession industry. In fact, there were 769,925 car repossessions for the third quarter of 2025 versus 706,383 for this year's second quarter. Texas has the most car repossessions by state, with 319,754, year-to-date. Florida has the second-most auto repossessions with 222,523. California, the nation's most populous state, ranks third in total repossession volume year-to-date.

At the same time, the success of the corporate-government war on labor unions has driven growth of non-union employment. The union membership rate of 20.1% in 1983 fall to 9.9% in 2024. This widespread trend has led to a term to describe employed Americans who can't make ends meet: the working poor.

Increased inflation arrives as the Republican government shutdown continues, halting funding for food assistance programs. 42 million Americans, one in eight of the nation's population, receive food assistance; 5.5m people in California alone.


Source: counterpunch.org.


#181 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-31 03:10 PM

You have no idea how this works?
#178 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Our fake Chinese Immigrant is here to tell us how it works.

Let's all gather round and laugh.

#182 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:11 PM

Mid-terms can't come quickly enough.
#179 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

Considering a Trumper billionaire who thinks democrats fixed the 2020 election bought Dominion Voting Systems and Donald Trump openly thanked Musk for the win in Pennsylvania and red states are redistricting to prevent black and brown people from voting ...

We'll have elections. Much in the same way Russia, north ores or Iran does.

Meaning. It will all be for show.

#183 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:16 PM

North Korea.

Not north ores ...

#184 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-31 03:17 PM

Mid-terms can't come quickly enough.

#179 | Posted by redlightrobot

There won't be midterms in any meaningful way.

Sorry to disappoint, but these people aren't going to simply walk away from their plan because of an election.

#185 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-31 03:24 PM

5.5 million on snap in Cali, where's the economic miracle we've heard so much about?

#186 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-31 03:56 PM

Most taxes/and grandkids taxes, go to the rich people (>$400K/yr) sucking up to the government.
Increasing taxes doesn't help anyone, just look at CA more homeless, more crime, more grift and graft.

Wake up.

#178 | Posted by oneironaut

Tell that to the everyone who is about to pay more for health insurance after repubs cut funding so they could give tax cuts to the rich.

The grift is getting you suckers to vote for puppets who screw you and cut taxes for the rich.

Wake up.

#187 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 06:07 PM

5.5 million on snap in Cali, where's the economic miracle we've heard so much about?

#186 | Posted by visitor_

Ask west virginia or missisippi, who have more on SNAP than california per capita. How come republican policies make people so poor?

#188 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-31 06:10 PM

Sy,

"This "work ethic" stuff is literally what EVERY generation says about the younger generation and it goes back THOUSANDS of years."

You're confusing rebellion with work ethic.

Every generation rebels, but not every generation stops taking pride in work.

"Work ethic" has to do with taking pride in your work regardless of being praised or rewarded.

I am referring to a time when most people had a strong Biblically tied "work ethic" of my youth, where doing a job well was part of one's moral fabric.

No...it isn't there like what I saw back then.

That's what's missing now.

Young people don't seem driven from within to give their best simply because it's the right thing to do.

#189 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:53 AM

Young people don't seem driven from within to give their best simply because it's the right thing to do.

#189 | Posted by BillJohnson

They said that about my generation, too, BILL, and I'm much older than you are.

Extrinsic rewards for intrinsic motivation is very powerful and ought to be nurtured.

Above your head'isn't it, Kemosabe?

#190 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-01 09:35 AM

#189 | Posted by BillJohnson

Feeding people is the single most Christian thing someone can do.

But here you are waxing moralistic about all the reasons not to.

#191 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-01 09:37 AM

"Work ethic" has to do with taking pride in your work regardless of being praised or rewarded.

I am referring to a time when most people had a strong Biblically tied "work ethic" of my youth, where doing a job well was part of one's moral fabric.

There you go again Fake Plastic Christian. Pushing your fake plastic agenda. Your white Christian racist nationalism (ignorance) is showing again. Work "ethics" do not originate in the Bible. And BTW, work ethics works both ways. The employer actually has more responsibility than the employee does. Which is not how maga maroons think. Obviously.

What happened Christian? Is that you are a two faced POS and you just don't hold the employer to the same standards you hold the employees? Because they don't have to act in a Christian manner to their employees as they are too busy for that silly nonsense?

And those people living in your head are some lazy --------.

And who are you to lecture others about being lazy? You present your lazy half baked pseudo Christian nonsense here practically every day now.

A nation supposedly as rich and powerful as we supposedly are should have no trouble and no qualms helping the less fortunate among us.

We will never be great (again) if we fail the weakest amongst us.

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members".- Mahatma Ghandi. (Not Jesus .. tho I am sure he said something similar)

#192 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-01 11:45 AM

- I am sure he said something similar

You are correct, sir!

"The King will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

"Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

"They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

"He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "

Matthew 25:40-45
New International Version

#193 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 11:53 AM

"Work ethic" has to do with taking pride in your work regardless of being praised or rewarded.

Or paid.

#194 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-01 12:32 PM

Corky,

What strangers have YOU fed lately?

Jesus was not talking about the Roman government feeding people.

He was talking about personal responsibility.

I've given a perfect stranger cash at a grocery store.

Have you?

#195 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:33 PM

#195

I bet you call this a, "Christian Nation".... except when it comes to following Christian values.

And bragging about your supposed good works is one of the least Christian-like behaviors there is.

#196 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 12:35 PM

I've given a perfect stranger cash at a grocery store.

You're not getting into Heaven.

#197 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-01 12:39 PM

Corky,

Your copy and paste, I counted the word "you" thirteen times.

And I counted the word "government" not once.

#198 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:40 PM

The government isn't made up of people!

-BillJohnson

#199 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-01 12:44 PM

Alex,

'You're not getting into Heaven.'

Notice in all my posts I have never specifically stated someone will or won't get into heaven,

I don't presume to judge people because its not my place.

Apparently you feel qualified.

#200 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:45 PM

#198

Glad you can still count. Now, show me where people are forbidden from pooling their money to BETTER support the poor, whether that's an org a company or a government. I'll wait.

Also:

www.google.com

#201 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 12:45 PM

Corky,
Your copy and paste, I counted the word "you" thirteen times.
And I counted the word "government" not once.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:40 PM | Reply

The government is you and I. Like duh. You slay me you really do BillJohnson.

#202 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-01 12:47 PM

And I counted the word "government" not once.
#198 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

This is America you Fake Plastic Christian.

Who do YOU think make up your government?

It is declared at the very beginning of the U.S. Constitution in case you have forgotten.

We the People...

#203 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-01 12:47 PM

You're not getting into Heaven.'
Notice in all my posts I have never specifically stated someone will or won't get into heaven,
I don't presume to judge people because its not my place.
Apparently you feel qualified.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:45 PM | Reply

You did me. You said that I wouldn't be where you will be in the afterlife. Don't lie like a rug now BillJohnson. That's a sin.

#204 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-01 12:49 PM

Just because someone goes into PUBLIC SERVICE" they don't stop being The People Bill Johnson.

The PEOPLE in our government have just as much or even more responsibility to help other Americans than folks not currently SERVING in the government.

#205 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-01 12:51 PM

Laura,

Maybe I did. But I do avoid that attitude.

I would be curious what was the context and exactly what I was responding to.

I will say Larry needs to be saved.

#206 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 12:56 PM

- I will say Larry needs to be saved.

That's the same thing... you are still judging others. That is NOT your job.

And ck Matt 6-4 about your giving/charity so that maybe next time it will count.

#207 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 12:59 PM

Don't you folks see your hypocrisy?

The first amendment is being ignored when you quote the Bible to justify government policy.

#208 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 01:00 PM

I will say Larry needs to be saved.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

And I would say Bill Johnson is desperate to be saved.

But is a lost soul who is desperately grasping at pseudo religious straws and who will be greatly surprised at his "after death". Which will be, by all measures available to Man, indistinguishable from his "pre-life".

#209 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-01 01:01 PM

The first amendment is being ignored when you quote the Bible to justify government policy.
#208 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

So our laws and morals are now NOT based in the Bible? And have no relation to other than they agree in some (but not all) areas?

In this we can Agree!

Republicans claiming the mantle of Christianity should stop ignoring the US Constitution and using their religious beliefs to justify their policies.

#210 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-01 01:07 PM

#207

More nonsense, same source. No one is establishing a religion in Gov.... well, they weren't until Trump OPENED AN OFFICE OF FAITH.

#211 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 01:11 PM

Corky,
What strangers have YOU fed lately?
Jesus was not talking about the Roman government feeding people.
He was talking about personal responsibility.
I've given a perfect stranger cash at a grocery store.
Have you?
#195 | Posted by BillJohnso

Meanwhile ALSO

Alex,
'You're not getting into Heaven.'
Notice in all my posts I have never specifically stated someone will or won't get into heaven,
I don't presume to judge people because its not my place.
Apparently you feel qualified.

#200 | Posted by BillJohnson

You don't even see it.

#212 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-01 01:33 PM

I think BJ may be "done" with us, lol.

#213 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-01 01:37 PM

I will say Larry needs to be saved.

You weren't around to read Larry's posts.

Larry was the same goofball as Laura is now, but Laura is far more confident (for better or worse, lol) and overall more positive in general. Larry was kind of a wuss, tbh (sorry Larry).

May Larry RIP, good to know him. Cheers to you Laura! Be happy and ---- the haters. You're happy, that's what matters, and the haters are not happy, which is a bonus.

#214 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-11-01 01:39 PM

Laura,

Be honest.

Yes or No.

Have I ever indicated I hate you?

#215 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-01 01:55 PM

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