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Thursday, May 16, 2024

Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, argued that President Joe Biden should have pardoned Donald Trump after the Justice Department brought indictments against the former president and pressured New York prosecutors not to pursue Trump's ongoing hush money trial.

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Mitt's an idiot.

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-15 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

His diaper may be on too tight again....

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-15 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Romney clearly doesn't understand Trump or MAGAts yet.

No wonder he resigned a sad RINO.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-15 07:57 PM | Reply

Biden is going to face a huge decision after he loses the election:

Hunter's gun charges aren't going away and this could lead to Hunter serving real prison time and Hunter eventually cutting a deal - does Biden pardon him?

Does Biden pardon Trump after the election hoping Trump will do the same for him?

I expect nothing less than a revenge tour and I want this to be on par with the Spanish Inquisition - I want the top Democrats either jailed, bankrupted by legal fees, or tied up in court for the next 4 years. Yes, it is un-democratic to do so. But the Dems are the ones that crossed the line and they need to be taught a permanent lesson on why the safeguards exist in our systems.

#4 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-16 12:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

The noxious orange jizzfart should hang for inciting J6.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-16 12:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good thing absolutely no one cares what you want Clodio.

#6 | Posted by qcp at 2024-05-16 08:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Should have negotiated (Art of the Deal) a Quid Pro Quo. Pardon and Trump doesn't run, neither does Biden. Race is wide open.
Harris VS DeSantis, what a ---- show.

#7 | Posted by mattm at 2024-05-16 10:39 AM | Reply

Cultist Claudiot has got his red hat on too tight again.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-16 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Romney is an institutionalist. Ford's pardon of Nixon is something he'd go for, at the very least because it was a big nod to institutional stability. But Nixon getting off only encouraged other lowlife behavior. Ford was wrong then and Romney's wrong now.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-16 12:35 PM | Reply

That's just effin ridiculous. Biden saw what happen saw what happened to Ford and didn't want to follow in Ford's footsteps. Furthermore, Trump continued in his lying, bombastic manner and would therefore be undeserving of any such compassion. Finally, had Ford not pardoned Nixon, we might have discovered the limits associated with presidential immunity, executive privilege, etc.

Ford did the country a disservice by pardoning Nixon primarily because it left so many questions left to be answered.

#10 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-05-16 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"I expect nothing less than a (Trump) revenge tour"---POSTED BY CLAUDIO ---In your fascist fantasy everyone Trump attacks lays down and takes it. It's YOUR job to play the dog and roll over, CLAUDIO. The rest of us are Americans.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-16 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I do. ... You may disagree with this, but had I been President Biden, when the Justice Department brought on indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him. I'd have pardoned President Trump. Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned a little guy."

www.nbcnews.com

Romney was also portrayed in the article as no fan of Trump.

#12 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2024-05-16 06:37 PM | Reply

Dark Brandon Replies....

(1 min)

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#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-16 06:40 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...

... "He should have fought like crazy to keep this prosecution from going forward," Romney said, referring to Biden. "It was a win-win for Donald Trump." ...

Pressed by Ruhle whether that is Biden's job to pardon Trump, Romney said he believes that Biden should have taken a cue from former President Lyndon B. Johnson, saying that the president could have stepped in and urged New York prosecutors to drop the case."I have been around for a while. If LBJ had been president, and he didn't want something like this to happen, he'd have been all over that prosecutor saying, You better not bring that forward or I'm gonna drive you out of office,'" he said.

Ruhle then noted that Romney supports having separate but equal branches of government.

"I do. ... You may disagree with this, but had I been President Biden, when the Justice Department brought on indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him. I'd have pardoned President Trump. Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned a little guy." ...



At this point, my view is that if fmr Pres Trump had been accused of just one crime, then, OK, maybe a pardon would be warranted.

But if, as it appears to be, fmr Pres Trump apparently used the Oval Office as a base of a mob-like crime spree, well, I have a differing opinion. And that opinion is that fmr Pres trump should face the Justice System.


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 06:44 PM | Reply

@#4 ... Hunter's gun charges aren't going away and this could lead to Hunter serving real prison time ...

Wait, what?

The Deep State DoJ, said by the GOP to be owned by the Democrats, is still prosecuting Mr Hunter Biden?

That deflates so many puff pieces the GOP proffers.

Thanks for citing that.


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 07:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#15

Hunter Biden's legal defense has a problem: The patron paying the bills is running out of cash
www.politico.com

... Less than a month before the start of his first trial, Hunter Biden may be losing a key financial lifeline.

Kevin Morris, a Hollywood entertainment lawyer who has long supported the president's son, has told associates that he has run out of resources to help fund Biden's legal defense, according to a person close to Morris who was granted anonymity to discuss private conversations.

"The reason Kevin got involved financially in the first place was that he could see that no one was going to help Hunter," said the person. "Now, four and a half years later, there's still no help " and now Kevin is completely tapped out. So just when Hunter is facing two criminal trials starting in a few weeks, he has no resources. It's pretty dire."

Reached for comment about this reporting, Morris confirmed the person's account but declined to elaborate further. A spokesperson for Biden's legal team also declined to comment.
I've made mistakes': Hunter Biden speaks on Capitol Hill

Biden is scheduled to begin trial on June 3 on federal gun charges in Delaware. A separate case, in which Biden is charged with federal tax crimes, is scheduled to go to trial June 20 in California.

Morris has played a key role in handling Biden's legal bills, as he detailed in an interview with lawmakers in January. The possibility that Morris can no longer serve as a benefactor is the latest sign of the tumult surrounding the president's son in the final weeks of preparation for two trials that he " and his father " had hoped would never happen. ...



You mean, Mr Hunter Biden cannot beg political donors for money? Oh, wait, he's not a running for office....


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 07:33 PM | Reply

Biden would have done himself a favor by pardoning him. Now hes placed Trump in a position to gain popularity over this ridiculous ---- - and it's likely what will end up costing Biden the election.

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-05-16 08:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#17 ... Now hes placed Trump in a position to gain popularity over this ridiculous ---- ...

How is it ridiculous?

Please be specific.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 08:35 PM | Reply

Gain popularity by being proven to have lied about the extramarital sex, the altered business record filings, and the hush money payments right before the election?

OK, yeah... Bizarro World Trumpers don't care. But then, they don't need an excuse to lemming for Trump.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-16 08:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#18 ... Now hes placed Trump in a position to gain popularity over this ridiculous ---- - and it's likely what will end up costing Biden the election. ...

... and as a second observation of your current alias' comment...

So, it seems to be saying that Justice should take a back seat to politics?

And, as a secondary question, what role, exactly, has Pres Biden taken in the prosecution of fmr Pres Trump? Details would be appreciated.

thx.


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 08:39 PM | Reply

@#19 ... Bizarro World Trumpers ...

Dickies - Killer Klowns (1988)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
P.T. Barnum said it so long ago
There's one born every minute, don't you know (killer klowns)
Some make us laugh, some make us cry
These klowns only gonna make you die

[Chorus]
Everybody's running when the circus comes into their towns
Everybody's gunning for the likes of the killer klowns
From outer space
Killer klowns
From outer space
...



btw, a great funny movie, imo...

KILLER CLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE | Official Trailer
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Yeah, they don't make movies like that anymore.


:)


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 08:46 PM | Reply

Well that, in a single sentence, should be more than proof that it was a good thing he was never elected to the highest office.

#22 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-05-16 08:47 PM | Reply

#22

Romney is just indirectly articulating that all these lawsuits and trial are doing two things.

1. Making Trump look like a victim of the biased government to minorities.
2. Keeping him off the campaign trail which he typically will flub and make people not like him.

Its really a win for Trump no matter the outcome.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-16 08:53 PM | Reply

So, it seems to be saying that Justice should take a back seat to politics?

Justice for what?

So, you seem to be saying that you'd rather have Trump as President so long as you can drag him through court?

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-16 08:55 PM | Reply


Gain popularity by being proven to have lied about the extramarital sex, the altered business record filings, and the hush money payments right before the election?

OK, yeah... Bizarro World Trumpers don't care.

These aren't Trumpers, these are low income voters being displaced and suffocating from inflation.

They aren't seeing Trump campaigning, they are seeing him in court and probably not being proven guilty, something with which they are familiar, they are sympathetic.

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-16 08:57 PM | Reply

You're a complete waste of space. Go get a hobby, Commie stooge.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-16 09:02 PM | Reply

Romney is saying that a US President should interfere in a State trial by pardoning someone... because politics.

Which is stupid enough an idea for 1Nut to support it.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-16 09:09 PM | Reply

@#24 ... So, you seem to be saying that you'd rather have Trump as President so long as you can drag him through court? ...

Do try harder.

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 09:27 PM | Reply

@#25 ... These aren't Trumpers, these are low income voters being displaced and suffocating from inflation. ...

Got links?

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 09:28 PM | Reply

@#27 ... Romney is saying that a US President should interfere in a State trial by pardoning someone... because politics. ...

Yup.

That's about it.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 09:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mafia Don will be taking the 5th next week rather than testifying... after claiming he hadn't been allowed to testify, lol.

And the Jury will get the case. Whether he's convicted or not, any thinking person will now know, if they didn't before, that he lied about the extramarital sex, about the hush money paid right before the election, and about not hiding his actions illegally in financial records.

Of course, true Cultists won't care about any of that, and there's prolly at least one of those on the Jury.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-16 09:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#31 ... And the Jury will get the case. ...

The Jury has been in the courtroom, listening to the evidence and testimonies being presented that you and I likely have seen on the various news channels.

But what you and I have not seen is the emotion behind the testimonies.

You have to be in the courtroom to experience and understand that.

The jury was there.

In other words, the jury has more information for their judgment than you or I have.


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-16 10:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#23 ... Romney is just indirectly articulating that all these lawsuits and trial are doing two things.

1. Making Trump look like a victim of the biased government to minorities.
2. Keeping him off the campaign trail which he typically will flub and make people not like him. ...

Re: 1 - the lawsuits are not making fmr Pres Trump look like a victim, that is how fmr Pres Trump is trying to frame the lawsuits.

Re: 2 - on the days off from the trial, has fmr Pres Trump hit the campaign trail?

#33 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-05-16 11:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Deep State DoJ, said by the GOP to be owned by the Democrats, is still prosecuting Mr Hunter Biden?
#15 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Not if it was up to the Democrats who had the shill DA cut him a sweetheart deal - unfortunately for crackhead Biden, there was an honest judge for his case that rejected the sweetheart deal out.

#34 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-16 11:56 PM | Reply

I totally disagree. Far too long we've allowed our Country's leaders get by with unspeakable crimes. It's high time we hold our leaders accountable for their actions.

#35 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-17 12:04 AM | Reply

"#35 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

I hope you don't change your mind on this when Trump wins and the indictments for top Democrats begin.

#36 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-17 12:24 AM | Reply

@#36 ... I hope you don't change your mind on this when Trump wins and the indictments for top Democrats begin. ...

To this point, I've not seen Democrats complaining when Democrats have been indicted by law enforcement.

Got any examples your current alias would like to trot out?

On the other hand, fmr Pres Trump has said that he will weaponize the DoJ to go after his political enemies.

So, is your current alias OK with fmr Pres Trump's threat to use the DoJ against his political enemies, as compared to Pres Biden's hands-off approach to the DoJ?


Yer up....


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-17 12:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Absolutely not!

#38 | Posted by lduvall at 2024-05-17 12:55 AM | Reply

I don't hope you don't change your mind on this when Trump wins and the indictments for top Democrats begin.

POSTED BY CLAUDIO AT 2024-05-17 12:24 AM | REPLY

You're full of smelly brown stuff as per the usual. You're not even an honest broker.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-17 12:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- You're not even an honest broker.

He's more like one of Trump's hookers... all bent over for the Cult Leader.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-17 01:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#40 ... He's more like one of Trump's hookers... all bent over for the Cult Leader. ...

Based upon that current alias' comment so far, I do not disagree.

But their is one point that it raises....

What happens when fmr Pres Trump wins in November, and he goes through with his revenge DoJ prosecution promises?


At this point, I have to say, I see that as a greater than 50-50 outcome, mainly due to Pres Biden's apparent disagreement with that outcome. Rephrased: Complacency does not a good campaign make.


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-17 01:27 AM | Reply

"To this point, I've not seen Democrats complaining when Democrats have been indicted by law enforcement.
#37 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Because the GOP has not done any political prosecutions, YET. After Trump wins, it is everything goes just like the Democrats are doing to him and his former staff. Biden's latest disclosure shows he is in bad financial shape as no one bought his or 'doctor' Jill Biden's books - I want Trump to utterly bankrupt him using lawfare.

#42 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-17 02:08 AM | Reply

"But the Dems are the ones that crossed the line and they need to be taught a permanent lesson on why the safeguards exist in our systems."

Not worthy of answer, when any poster's mind is that full of propaganda it is impossible to communicate with them. Right wing cultism is the new drug of choice for all MAGAts.

#43 | Posted by danni at 2024-05-17 07:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"#43 | POSTED BY DANNI"

For the -------- NY prosecution of Trump going on right now - please tell me the crimes so that this can be charged as a felony? Everyone knows that NO ONE but Trump is getting charged. Same with the -------- 'overvalued his real estate' case or ------- crazy E. Jean Carrol that can't even tell you the year in which this assault occurred. This is the Dems abusing the legal system and YES - I want Trump to abuse it the SAME WAY.

#44 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-05-17 08:05 AM | Reply

Pardon with no sanctions?

Bull!

#45 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-05-17 08:20 AM | Reply

Mitts not wrong.

I mean we don't like criminals to get away with it, but the prosecutions galvanize his base into voting come hell out high water. I see no such steel in the Democrat base right now. They had it in 2016, but now think they are in cruise control and there is just no way Trump can win.

If 100% of trumps base shows up, and 30% of the democrats show up to vote. The ship is sunk for Biden.

No matter how valid these trials are, and I'm not questioning them. They do reinforce the idiocy of his base and give them ammunition to cry foul, no matter how misinformed and stupid they are.

I have a great deal of knowledge in federal case law. I can tell you if all the evidence is WHAT I HAVE SEEN ... . I haven't seen it all ... . They never should have brought any case except the document case to the courts. That case is so open and shut it's silly. But the rest are nebulous at best.

#46 | Posted by ABH at 2024-05-17 10:42 AM | Reply

I expect nothing less than a revenge tour and I want this to be on par with the Spanish Inquisition - I want the top Democrats either jailed, bankrupted by legal fees, or tied up in court for the next 4 years

And MAGA wonders why they're viewed as giant pieces of unAmerican s^%#.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-17 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because the GOP has not done any political prosecutions, YET.

At which point they'll have completed their goal of turning the us into a banana republic.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-17 11:25 AM | Reply

Biden can't pardon Trump because he is on trial and hasn't been convicted of anything yet. Also, this is a state trial, not a Fedcxeral trial and it's my understanding that President Biden can only pardon someone convicted of a Federal crime not a state crime. Also, Romney is an idiot!

#49 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-05-17 12:29 PM | Reply

Biden can't pardon Trump because he is on trial and hasn't been convicted of anything yet. Also, this is a state trial, not a Federal trial and it's my understanding that President Biden can only pardon someone convicted of a Federal crime not a state crime. Also, Romney is an idiot!

#50 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-05-17 12:40 PM | Reply

I hope you don't change your mind on this when Trump wins and the indictments for top Democrats begin.

#36 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

If Trumpy directs indictments for anyone I am arming myself to the teeth because there will be a civil war.

The President of the US does not demand that the DOJ indict anyone in this America with this constitution. So if the President actually starts directing indictments of anyone that means it's over. Dictator Days are here and the United States will not be United much longer.

Is that what you really want?

"What kind of American are you?"

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-17 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Well now we know for sure - romney would have been a terrible president.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-17 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They never should have brought any case except the document case to the courts. That case is so open and shut it's silly. But the rest are nebulous at best.

#46 | Posted by ABH

So coup attempts should go totally unprosecuted if you're popular enough?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-05-17 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Claudio is one ignorant stooge of the MAGGOT type.

#54 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-05-17 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Mitt's behavior is what's known as 'gaslighting'.

#55 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-18 11:25 AM | Reply

"So coup attempts should go totally unprosecuted if you're popular enough?"

Exactly what I believe, this nation cannot let a crime like that go unpunished no matter how inconvenient it is to prosecute. I have always believed we would pay a big price for letting Nixon and Reagan off the hook and I still do! Really, Bush should be serving time right now for lying us into war in Iraq.

#56 | Posted by danni at 2024-05-18 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Question. Does a pardon imply guilt?

#57 | Posted by rosemountbomber at 2024-05-18 02:58 PM | Reply

#57 Rosemountbomber Answer: Yes, why elae would you need to be pardoned?

#58 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-05-18 04:15 PM | Reply

So maybe this would have been a good idea then.

#59 | Posted by rosemountbomber at 2024-05-18 09:11 PM | Reply

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