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Two members of Donald Trump's campaign staff had a verbal and physical altercation Monday with an official at Arlington National Cemetery, where the former president participated in a wreath-laying ceremony, NPR has learned.

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Two members of Donald Trump's campaign staff had a verbal and physical altercation Monday with an official at Arlington National Cemetery, where the former president participated in a wreath-laying ceremony, NPR has learned.

A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-27 10:32 PM | Reply

Background info:

Patrick S. Tomlinson
@stealthygeek
Learned more about the story of this photo and now I'm mad.

This was taken today at Arlington National Cemetery. The grave belongs to Sgt Nicole Leeann Gee, USMC. She was among the 13 US service members killed in a suicide bombing during the Afghan withdrawal 3 yrs ago. 1/

Donald Trump is directly responsible for her death.

When negotiating the Afghanistan withdrawal, he deliberately cut out the Afghan government in Kabul we had been supporting for 20 years.

Instead, he negotiated exclusively with the Taliban. The enemy. 2/

Without any input from Kabul or our other partners in the theater, he released 5,000 Taliban, al Qaida, and affiliated fighters, criminals, and terrorists from prison because the Taliban told him to, swelling their combat force in the months before the withdrawal. 3/

When the Pentagon told Trump they would need a bare minimum security force of 4,000 troops to ensure a safe, orderly withdrawal from the country, Trump overrode his military advisors and slashed the number of remaining deployed troops to just 2,500. Sgt Gee among them. 4/

Trump did all of this in the waning months of his time in office, much of it after losing the election, to sabotage the situation and leave a --------- for Joe Biden to inherent. Three years ago today, that trap went off, costing 13 service members their lives. 5/

x.com

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-27 10:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Mr. Thumbs Up Smiley Face has no shame:

Donald Trump Holds Responsibility for Afghanistan Withdraw, Ex-Adviser Says

McMaster, who was Trump's top national security adviser from February 2017 to April 2018, told CNN's Anderson Cooper during an interview on Monday night that his former boss was partly responsible for the debacle because he had decided to negotiate with the Taliban on terms of a withdrawal.

"Oh, yes," McMaster said after being asked by Cooper if Trump bears "part of the responsibility for what happened." McMaster then added, "The whole premise of talking to the Taliban before you leave Afghanistan...why the heck were we even doing that?"

"The Obama administration didn't negotiate with al-Qaeda and Iraq on the way out," he continued. "If we were gonna leave, why not just leave? What happened in these series of negotiations is we kind of threw the Afghans under the bus on the way out... then forced them to release 5,000 of some of the most heinous people on the earth."

In response to a request for clarification from Cooper, McMaster confirmed that he was referring to the Trump administration forcing the then-U.S.-backed Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters as part of the withdrawal negotiations.

www.newsweek.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-27 10:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Trump visited a national cemetery and his media team started a fight with a guard who was trying to enforce the federal ban on photography for political purposes? Do I have that correct?

Did Trump later say "I don't get what the big deal is. There's nothing but suckers and losers buried there."

#4 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-08-28 12:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

To think there's an actual chance that Trump will be handcuffed in the near future and all because he violated laws originally created to keep hippies from protesting the Vietnam War.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2024-08-28 12:51 AM | Reply

I'm sorry but George W. Bush is the most responsible for casualties in Iraq and Agghanistan; Trump probably compounded the stupidity but Bush caused the entire mess because he is basically a really stupid person who should never have been President. Trump probably made it worse because he too is a really stupid man who should have never been President.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2024-08-28 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump has not hit bottom even with this, campers, and this may be the single most disgusting thing I have ever seen an ex-president do.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2024-08-28 08:37 AM | Reply

Trumpian Photo Op Patriotism...

sick.

Man had Top Secret Documents in his Commode!
Several of which he likely sold to our enemies for
profit!

Think Jared got 2 billion from the Saudis for nothing?!

#8 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-08-28 09:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Which loser's grave should I pretend to care about?" - Fatty McSh**stain

#9 | Posted by zarnon at 2024-08-28 09:51 AM | Reply

Trump is never not an international embarrassment.

#10 | Posted by anton at 2024-08-28 10:04 AM | Reply

Harris didn't go because she couldn't use it as a photo-op. Also it's a reminder of another Biden-Harris failure.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-08-28 10:42 AM | Reply

^ "Deflectors are already at Maximum, Captain! I dinna think she can give ye any more!"

#12 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-08-28 11:01 AM | Reply

Trump's thuggery and disrespect is someone else's fault per usual. Got it.

#13 | Posted by anton at 2024-08-28 11:24 AM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY VISITOR

The nastier Trump gets, the more you like it.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2024-08-28 11:33 AM | Reply

Trump's campaign spokesman claimed the Arlington official had a "mental health episode". Enough said.

#15 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2024-08-28 12:26 PM | Reply

Scofflaw Trump ignored the rules about using the site for campaigning... nothing new for him.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-28 12:31 PM | Reply

"Harris didn't go because she couldn't use it as a photo-op. "

She knew better (and it was against the rules) to try and use dead soldiers as a political prop for a "photo-op".

Trumpy (and his cultists) think that rules don't apply to him. And if someone actually tries to hold him accountable for his actions when he purposely violates norms and rules for his own benefit then they must be crazy!

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-28 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

www.newsweek.com

... "Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," it added. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

Title 32, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Section 553.32(c) states: "Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political activities." ...


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-08-28 01:22 PM | Reply

Just Trump and his staff beating up Arlington Cemetery workers and desecrating the graves of heroes.

All in a days work for Trump.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-08-28 01:47 PM | Reply

Classless dotard and his thugs make a scene among the graves of what he calls "suckers and losers."

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-08-28 01:54 PM | Reply

"Only the best people"

#21 | Posted by dibblda at 2024-08-28 02:39 PM | Reply

Since Snoofy isn't here, I'll say it.

The cruelty is the point.

#22 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-08-28 03:30 PM | Reply

Harris didn't go because she couldn't use it as a photo-op. Also it's a reminder of another Biden-Harris failure.

#11 | Posted by visitor_

Why didn't trump go the past couple years? Oh because he didn't need the photo op.

Why didn't trump go when he was president? Oh because it was raining and he didn't want his fake hair to melt.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-08-28 05:11 PM | Reply

And the lying by the Trump campaign continues:

Dan Lamothe
@DanLamothe
Fact check: JD Vance says here there hasn't been a "single" investigation into the Abbey Gate bombing. That is very wrong.

In fact, there have been a few, including one in which DOD released more 2,000+ pages of docs. They formed a backbone for a series of stories I did in 2022.

x.com

And let's not forget Trump is the one who caused the problem in the first place as he himself once admitted:

#NeverForget that time Trump accidentally told the truth about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan: "I started the process, all the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process!"

x.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-28 06:52 PM | Reply

Here's the second thread for those who don't use X:

#NeverForget that time Trump accidentally told the truth about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan: "I started the process, all the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process!"

threadreaderapp.com

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-28 06:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The family of a Green Beret who died by suicide after serving roughly a dozen combat tours and is buried at Arlington National Cemetery expressed concern on Wednesday that Donald Trump's campaign had filmed his gravesite without permission as Mr. Trump stood in an area where campaign photography isn't allowed," the New York Times reports.

"Relatives of Master Sgt. Andrew Marckesano issued their statement two days after Mr. Trump's visit, which also included a confrontation between members of the Trump campaign and an Arlington employee."

"The former president's campaign took video in a heavily restricted section of the cemetery known as Section 60, which is largely reserved for the fallen veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."


politicalwire.com

Trump couldn't possibly do a better job of representing the garbage who support him.

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-28 08:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He's got a full campaign ad on TS with video and photos from this.
Trying to heal the wounds he inflicted on so many in the Military.
All that ad did for me is make me sick to my stomach and drive home how much he doesn't respect anyone but himself.
No respect for Arlington. No respect for those that were just interred. No respect for this hallowed place.
It is infuriating that he sets the tone for disrespect and his "people" follow that tone and get into an argument doing what is not permitted. A fight about the published rules of etiquette and of Arlington National Cemetery that they were given before they showed up - and planned far in advance to disregard.

What utter scum.

And now we find out those 13 died because of him - and yet here he is trading on their deaths.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2024-08-28 09:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I said TS, it was TikTok.
abcnews.go.com

"The TikTok video, which is overlayed by guitar instrumentals, shows a montage of Trump participating in the wreath-laying ceremony, taking photos with Gold Star families and visiting Section 60.

In the video, Trump can be heard making a political point throughout the video -- blaming the Biden-Harris administration for the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. The video is also captioned "Should have never happened," again condemning his political opponent's previous actions.

In the TikTok video, Trump and some of the family members are seen smiling and holding thumbs up as they posed for photos, with overlaid captions claiming Trump didn't lose a single soldier in 18 months, but that a "disaster" ensued after the Biden-Harris administration took over."

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2024-08-28 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"with overlaid captions claiming Trump didn't lose a single soldier in 18 month"

Trump misleads on Afghanistan casualties

CLAIM: When former President Donald Trump was in charge, 18 months went by in Afghanistan when "we didn't lose one American soldier."

AP'S ASSESSMENT: False. There is no year-and-half time frame under Trump's presidency alone that no combat deaths among U.S. service members were reported. That occurred during the 18 months preceding the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, which included months under the Biden administration as well.

During Trump's presidency, which ran from January 20, 2017, to January 20, 2021, there were 45 combat deaths among U.S. service members reported in Afghanistan, as well as 18 "non-hostile" deaths, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System.

apnews.com

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-28 09:40 PM | Reply

Won't this count as lying for political gain? Yes, I believe it would:

There was an 18-month stretch that saw no combat, or "hostile," deaths in Afghanistan: from early February 2020 to August 2021.

There were two combat deaths reported in early February 2020, when Trump was president, and none reported again until late August 2021, when an attack killed 13 U.S. troops amid the exit from Afghanistan, during Biden's presidency. There were also several "non-hostile" deaths among U.S. service members in Afghanistan during that time frame, specifically in 2020.

Looking at other periods of Trump's presidency also tells a different story than the one he offered.

During the last, full 18 months before Trump left office in January 2021--from July 2019 to December 2020 --there were 12 combat deaths reported.


#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-08-28 09:54 PM | Reply

Fat Donnie Felon is absolute filth.

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-29 01:08 AM | Reply

The criminal incompetence of Biden-Harris got these men killed and neither Biden or Harris cared enough to show up.

Biden and Harris got men killed, buh Trump tried to take pictures!

#32 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-08-29 10:43 AM | Reply

She knew better (and it was against the rules) to try and use dead soldiers as a political prop for a "photo-op".

What about Biden?
x.com

#33 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-29 11:03 AM | Reply

Re 33.

What about him? Pretty sure Biden has never gone to Arlington National Cemetery and assaulted personnel there to try and violate park rules to get a political photo op.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:10 AM | Reply

Re 33

Also thanks for reminding everyone what a disgusting turd Trumpy is.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:11 AM | Reply

#45 I believe what Trump was referring to is since they negotiated the pull out.

After that negotiation there were no soldiers killed, this is because he says his boast about going after the commanders if one was killed.

US goes full year without combat death in Afghanistan

Though there have been no U.S. combat deaths in a year, there have been five noncombat deaths in Afghanistan over the last year, according to Defense Department statistics.
thehill.com

Really just grasping at straws though. Only die hards will saddle Trump with the disastrous pullout of Afghanistan.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-29 11:12 AM | Reply

#34 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Nice deflection.

Biden runs ad featuring Arlington cemetery, with names of soldiers and you just glide right over it.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-29 11:13 AM | Reply


Pretty sure Biden has never gone to Arlington National Cemetery and assaulted personnel there to try and violate park rules to get a political photo op.

How much you want bet Trump nor his team didn't assault anyone, and violated no park rules?

This is all a hoax. I know this to be true given the history of hoaxes.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-08-29 11:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Biden and Harris got men killed, buh Trump tried to take pictures!

#32 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

During Trump's presidency, which ran from January 20, 2017, to January 20, 2021, there were 45 combat deaths among U.S. service members reported in Afghanistan, as well as 18 "non-hostile" deaths, according to the Defense Casualty Analysis System.

But they were just "suckers and losers" to Trumpy.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:15 AM | Reply

Re 39

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died from Trumpy's criminally negligent handling of the Covid pandemic.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:20 AM | Reply

Biden runs ad featuring Arlington cemetery, with names of soldiers and you just glide right over it.

#37 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

He "runs" ads?

The man quit.

Trump is a sickf---for what happened in Arlington. Now, this was an already known fact. It's just nice to see it getting this much publicity.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2024-08-29 11:28 AM | Reply

Biden runs ad featuring Arlington cemetery, with names of soldiers and you just glide right over it.

#37 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

No I didn't just "glide over it".

I enjoyed that ad immensely. In fact I will probably share it. Thanks!

It shows Trumpy for who he is. And it violates no rules or norms and is not offensive or disrespectful to the military. It does clearly show Trumpy's callous disrespect of the military tho.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:29 AM | Reply

How much you want bet Trump nor his team didn't assault anyone, and violated no park rules?

#38 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT A

How much you got?

This is all a hoax.

#38 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Like Trump's recent "assassination attempt"?

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2024-08-29 11:30 AM | Reply

Re 39

By the way Trumpy lied about that. While accusing Biden of lying.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 11:33 AM | Reply

What?
Trump do something unethical, illegal, and amoral using only one or two partisan soldier families to score cheap points when he ignores and degrades veterans the other 364 days each year?
Impossible!

#45 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-08-29 11:34 AM | Reply

Biden runs ad featuring Arlington cemetery, with names of soldiers and you just glide right over it.
#37 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Oh, Biden ran ad(s) wherein he posed at Arlington at gravesites?
He did not.
You are a liar, per usual.

#46 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-08-29 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Biden runs ad featuring Arlington cemetery"

That should be easy to find.

Link, please. Thanks.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-08-29 12:04 PM | Reply

Re 47

This was his "proof"

Feel free to share it with your friends and neighbors. It showed even more of Trumpy's callous disregard for our veterans.

x.com

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 12:11 PM | Reply

..... and here is the rest of the story:

www.dailywire.com

#49 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-08-29 12:12 PM | Reply

Didn't the dailywire admit in court that they aren't a news source?

#50 | Posted by Tor at 2024-08-29 12:23 PM | Reply

I feel bad for people that were duped into fighting wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Wars that were fought for corporate profit. Who wants to risk getting maimed or killed for Haliburton?

#51 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-08-29 12:24 PM | Reply

..... and here is the rest of the story:
www.dailywire.com

#49 | Posted by MSgt

That was all BEFORE the incident of shoving the cemetery worker and making it a campaign event. Your post literally says it was 3 days before the event.

WORSE, your article PROVES the Trump campaign intended to violate the rules and make it a media/campaign event.

#52 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-08-29 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Re 49
FTA
"But something like this should never have happened."

Exactly right. Way to go maga maroons. On Labor Day weekend too.

With this kind of incompetence no wonder Trumpy is losing.

Come on maga maroons. Focus!

At least tonight you (and fixed spews) will be able to find all kinds of things wrong to complain about with Kamala's interview tonight. Hopefully you can change the narrative with that. Good luck! You will need it.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 12:31 PM | Reply

No... here's the actual Rest of the Story:

"Unfairly attacked': Army defends employee involved in Trump campaign incident at Arlington

The Army is defending an Arlington National Cemetery official involved in an incident with the Trump campaign this week at the national memorial, saying the woman was "abruptly pushed aside" and "unfairly attacked" by the Trump staffers and its surrogates.

The unidentified female staff member has declined to press charges due to concern over retaliation, and the Army, which runs national cemeteries, said in a statement Thursday morning that it considers the matter closed.

After the incident was first reported, the Trump camp denied that the employee was shoved and called her "despicable" and had mental health problems."

www.politico.com

She's rightly afraid of being vilified and attacked by these MAGA animals.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-29 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

She's rightly afraid of being vilified and attacked by these MAGA animals.

#54 | POSTED BY CORKY

They are probably burning up the wires trying to figure out who she is so they can threaten her. For doing her job.

Oh great. We just told them it was a she.

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-08-29 12:58 PM | Reply

They prolly know all about her if she was wearing a name tag when they pushed her around.

Next up, they'll be posting her name on social media.

Maybe if they do she and the Army will change their minds about responding.

Apparently Trump used the ceremony video from Arlington in an attack ad on Harris... which is an obvious violation of the law.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2024-08-29 01:05 PM | Reply

Don Of The Dead. LOL

www.drudgereport.com

#57 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-08-29 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Low-class grifter filth

Congrats, Beverly. You get to vote for this -------- again!

#58 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-08-29 09:44 PM | Reply

While being interviewed today by an NBC reporter, Trump disavowed any knowledge of any photos or videos, from the Arlington Cemetery visit, being posted on social media. When first asked about it, he said pictures were taken at the request of the families, but when he was told that photos and videos have been posted on sites like TicTok, his initial response was that it must have been one of the family members who posted it, therefore he had no control over that. However, when he was informed that it was posted by HIS campaign, he said he knew nothing about it and basically ended the interview.

OCU

#59 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-08-30 12:56 AM | Reply

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