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Thursday, February 27, 2025

The Los Angeles Times has interviewed federal workers who supported President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election who are now fuming after being fired by X owner Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency.

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"They are just in this shock-and-awe mode, with no concern about all the damage that is being done," said one former federal employee who supported Trump - until he was laid off. Story by @raineytime.bsky.social www.latimes.com/politics/sto ...

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So you people are "fuming"? Poor babies.

You were shmoos, begging for someone to eat you.

Well, now you're eaten.

Maybe it's finally time for you to change how you see the world.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-26 05:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A laid-off Veterans Affairs Department staffer who only wished to be identified as "Mike," meanwhile said he had "proudly" voted for Trump but then added that "I never would have expected things to go this far... I'm still in shock."

WINNING!!!

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-26 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Where are our deplorable trumping MAGAts to cheer this on?

It seems a lot of them are OK with America falling to ---- because liberals say mean things about them.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-26 06:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Republicans actually gave a crap about this country. They would have barred Trump from even running for POTUS let alone taking office. They showed their true colors for sure.

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-26 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3, and from the cited article...

... A laid-off Veterans Affairs Department staffer who only wished to be identified as "Mike," meanwhile said he had "proudly" voted for Trump but then added that "I never would have expected things to go this far... I'm still in shock." ...

Related?

'These Are Human Beings': VA Fires 1,400 More Employees It Considers Nonessential
www.military.com

... The Department of Veterans Affairs fired 1,400 more employees Monday, bringing the total number of dismissals in the department to roughly 2,400 under the Trump administration's effort to slash the size of the federal workforce.

The workers -- more than 3.3% of the department's probationary employees -- were union members considered to have "non-mission critical" positions, according to a VA news release Monday evening. The move follows the firings of nearly 1,000 probationary employees Feb. 14, some of which were walked back later when they were determined to be essential employees.

The announcement drew sharp criticism from the Veterans of Foreign Wars, which issued the first major statement since the firings began from a national veterans service organization. The ongoing cuts may disproportionately affect vets, since they make up more than 28% of the VA workforce and account for the same share of the federal workforce.

VFW National Commander Al Lipphardt said fired veterans weren't "brand-new, off-the-street employees," but were those who had served the country for decades in uniform and civil service.

"There are bigger ramifications in firing veterans than just faceless workers being let go. The American people are losing technical expertise, training and security clearances already bought and paid for by taxpayers," Lipphardt said in a statement Monday night. "We're losing people who are genuinely committed to the mission and find a continued sense of purpose in what they do."

VA Secretary Doug Collins described the dismissals as "extraordinarily difficult" but said the savings in salaries and benefits -- an estimated $83 million a year -- would go toward serving veterans, families and survivors. In fiscal 2023, the VA's budget was nearly $304 billion, including mandatory spending such as disability payments and pensions. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-26 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... VA Secretary Doug Collins described the dismissals as "extraordinarily difficult" but said the savings in salaries and benefits -- an estimated $83 million a year -- would go toward serving veterans, ...

I disagree.

The savings are going towards the $4.5 trillion tax cut for the uber-wealthy, the oligarchy that is currently running the Country.

.



#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-26 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Related?

VA Research on Cancer, Suicide Prevention, Toxic Exposure at Risk from Federal Hiring Freeze
www.military.com

... Hundreds of Department of Veterans Affairs medical research projects are being threatened by a hiring freeze across the federal government, a pair of top Democratic senators warned in a letter to the department this week.

About 200 research personnel could be cut and an estimated 370 studies and clinical trials could be canceled or suspended in the next 90 days if the freeze isn't lifted, the senators said, "directly impacting up to 10,000 veterans currently participating in research studies."

Studies on cancer treatments, opioid addiction, prosthetics, suicide prevention and toxic exposures are among those at risk, a coalition of research organizations warned in its own letter to Congress last week. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-26 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Suicide is painless.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-26 08:17 PM | Reply

Point and laugh at the magat scum.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-26 08:21 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Suicide is painless. ...

Johnny Mandel - Suicide Is Painless
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
The Tongue-in-cheek theme song for the very sad tongue-in-cheek comedy about the Korean war -- directed at the Vietnam war -- for both film and TV series. The film was released in 1970, at the height of the Vietnam war, and the TV series debuted in 1972, appealing to the growing anti-war crowd, lasted 11 years and was arguably one of the most successful series ever.
...


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-26 09:04 PM | Reply

---- idiots. I wish their pictures were published so I could drive through a puddle if I ever saw them standing at the curb.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-27 03:10 AM | Reply

"VA Secretary Doug Collins described the dismissals as "extraordinarily difficult" but said the savings in salaries and benefits -- an estimated $83 million a year -- would go toward serving veterans, families and survivors"

No it won't. The workforce is being slashed SO ELON CAN HAVE HIS TAX CUTS.
~Sincerely, Math

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-02-27 04:55 AM | Reply

"Sure I voted for the leopard who eats peoples faces, but I didn't think he'd eat my face!"

The workforce is being slashed SO ELON CAN HAVE HIS TAX CUTS.
~Sincerely, Math

And the party of fiscal responsibility will still add $3 TRILLION to the debt to pay for them.

#13 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-27 08:01 AM | Reply

Their tears are delicious.

#14 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-27 08:02 AM | Reply

Suicide is painless.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

The VA is the employer of last resort for many vets, whose PTSD won't allow them to work anywhere else.

So, yes. A lot of them will be killing themselves.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-27 08:08 AM | Reply

Trump.is creating Enemies. The kind with Military Training.

He's so Stupid he doesn't even consider where this could lead.

Make enough people Angry with nothing to lose and what happens?

I think a new age of Civil Unrest is coming.

#16 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-02-27 09:10 AM | Reply

VA Secretary Doug Collins described the dismissals as "extraordinarily difficult" but said the savings in salaries and benefits -- an estimated $83 million a year -- would go toward serving veterans, families and survivors"

You have to be a magat moron to think cutting staff will increase services

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-27 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And the whole country is just flooded with Guns. More guns than People.

Yeah, this is going to work out just Fine.

Not.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-02-27 09:13 AM | Reply

#15 | Posted by Zed

I suppose that is quite possible (employer of last resort) but anecdotally I know a few working for the VA today and I personally don't know of any with struggles in that area. They are just one of the better employers that WERE considered to be stable if not cushy jobs (living wage pay, good healthcare, pension & 401k retirement, reasonable raises, no crazy expectations, etc). My grandfather's brother worked at the local VA hospital after WWII until he retired. He definitely had PTSD though - wounded twice in two separate incidents on Iwo Jima.

I even know a couple non-vets working there. One of the non-vets is honestly pretty fed up with the team not being gung-ho and essentially there to the job assigned to them while she is young, really ambitious and working with people mostly twice her age and doesn't get where they are at. They aren't out to be managers and directors - just making their way through life.

#19 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-02-27 09:36 AM | Reply

#17 | Posted by truthhurts

Precisely. Cutting too many or just the wrong people leads to higher costs.

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-02-27 09:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People tend to believe the myth that these organizations are bloated with too many lazy people who do nothing, etc.

Christ, my organization struggles with that as well.

But if you cut, you damn well better know how to structure and re-organize. You can't just cut for the sake of cutting.

"Cutting too many or just the wrong people leads to higher costs."

couldn't agree more.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 09:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

If your goal is just to cut, cut, cut, and you cut sloppily, as one guy in a town hall said, or haphadardly without understanding the ramifications of what you are cutting, you are going to end up being pennywise but dollar foolish as the old adage says.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-02-27 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think a new age of Civil Unrest is coming.

#16 | Posted by Effeteposer

What makes you think that isn't part of the plan?

They'll be secure and well supplied.

Civil unrest and calamity for the rest of us would be the ultimate opportunity to consolidate executive power.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-02-27 10:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are these the liberal tears that MAGA promised? All I'm seeing is liberal laughter. Thoughts and prayers MAGA!

#24 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-27 12:29 PM | Reply

"People tend to believe the myth that these organizations are bloated with too many lazy people who do nothing, etc."

Trump's Paycheck Protection Program made that myth a reality for the private sector.

From 2020,
Trump Administration Refuses To Disclose Which Businesses Received $500 Billion In Government Bailout
www.huffpost.com

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 12:38 PM | Reply

Repug: People who are losing their jobs should be very grateful' to Elon Musk

www.nj.com

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-27 12:42 PM | Reply

Thanks Trump.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-27 12:44 PM | Reply

"MAGAs Fume After Being Fired"

MAGAs fume before being hired, while on the job, during breaks, on the commute, at the dinner table, and in their dreams.

Getting fired? Doesn't really change anything for MAGA.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 12:47 PM | Reply

So MAGGOT and MUSKY NAZI fire thousands of VA employees' thus ------- up their service to the veterans and that's going to help them? How? My doctor(general practitioner) has over 1000 patients and now she might have up to 3000. How the hell does that help me as a disabled veteran? A pox on all those that work at DOGE and the POTUS and that fat drug addled Nazi Musky. Deport now!

#29 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-02-27 01:06 PM | Reply

I have worked inside two national parks(Yellowstone & Yosemite) and all the workers but, a few, were really hard working folks that took pride in their jobs. The sick thing is that the lazy workers were the bigot loudmouths that hated the federal government and the NPS i.e. the right wing racists that could not be bothered to do their jobs as they laid about in their trucks or in the break room which they spent half the day sleeping in it. I had to threaten one of them for talking racist ---- about California, which is where I am from, and he thought better than going "outside with me" to fix 'his' problem. I wanted to fist whip him so bad but the moto was whoever threw the first punch would get fired so I refrained from busting him up to just calling him every name in the book. These guys talked ---- about Native Americans, Mexicans, blacks, women and gays and yet I could hardly find any of those folks working in the park service at Yellowstone or living in Montana. One worker, I worked with in Yosemite, use to drive up to cool high elevation and sleep in his truck with his lazy assistant while I got stuck doing all the high ladder work either in the Valley or in lower extremely hot areas of the park in 110 degree weather. He voted TRump and I hoped he got canned but alas it was the locksmith and electrician that are now gone. They do not even have anybody else to do these jobs. Just makes me sick to my stomach and two weeks ago I got my job offer "rescinded" for this next season and it will be that lazy ---- up there doing nothing making us all look bad while he talks about lazy minorities doing nothing for the country.

#30 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-02-27 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's only Deplorable people without jobs, saying most people with jobs are lazy.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 01:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Precisely. Cutting too many or just the wrong people leads to higher costs.

LOL in Silicon Valley if you haven't hired back 10% you didn't cut enough.

All this crying over spilt milk is funny. None of you cared when the oil workers were cut, or Google, Facebook had layoffs the last couple of years.

People tend to believe the myth that these organizations are bloated with too many lazy people who do nothing, etc.

In every large organization, everyone has something to do, the question is are they serving the customer, typically the answer is no.

If they aren't serving the customer, then they literally aren't doing anything. But hey our productivity numbers are up!

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-27 01:32 PM | Reply

A rural Michigan federal worker who reluctantly cast her 2024 presidential vote for Donald Trump because she believed his promises about lowering the cost of living has now found herself out of a job she loved.

www.rawstory.com

Psych!

#33 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-27 01:32 PM | Reply

None of you cared when the oil workers were cut, or Google, Facebook had layoffs the last couple of years.

IAMRUNT is the ------- who praised the orange pedo's 15% unemployment rate.

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-27 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A rural Michigan federal worker who reluctantly cast her 2024 presidential vote for Donald Trump because she believed his promises about lowering the cost of living has now found herself out of a job she loved."

Where are the MAGAs to laugh at her fat, lazy, stupid, progressive, transgender ass?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 01:35 PM | Reply

All this crying over spilt milk is funny. None of you cared when the oil workers were cut, or Google, Facebook had layoffs the last couple of years

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-27 01:32 PM | Reply

They don't work for you and me unlike Government employees. HUGE difference.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-27 01:38 PM | Reply

"None of you cared when the oil workers were cut"
Oil is a boom and bust industry.

"Google, Facebook had layoffs"
Tech is a boom and bust industry.

Government, on the other hand, is supposed to be a slow and steady moving ship.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 01:43 PM | Reply

Maybe it's finally time for you to change how you see the world.

#1 | Posted by Zed

Yeahthatsnotgonnahappen.

#38 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-02-27 01:51 PM | Reply

Government, on the other hand, is supposed to be a slow and steady moving ship.

#37 | Posted by snoofy

Yeah...and on the other hand, Onerous is nothing but a dirtbag troll...so, there's that...

#39 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-02-27 01:54 PM | Reply

-None of you cared when the oil workers were cut, or Google, Facebook had layoffs the last couple of years.

nobody is going to give you a thoughtful response. Perhaps some lame deflection about how it's different when someone loses their job in the private sector vs a govt job.

Organizations expand and contract. Both private sector and government.

Are these cuts necessary? Considering the way it's being done and communicated, I'd say no.

Meaning the cuts won't be strategic....just cutting to cut.

And that will lead to more problems....and a media devoted to hammering it step by step.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 02:04 PM | Reply

Oh, and a done of personal insults.

Gotta have those......

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 02:05 PM | Reply

"nobody is going to give you a thoughtful response."

It wasn't a thoughtful prompt. LOL.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 02:14 PM | Reply

"And that will lead to more problems"

Congratulations on figuring out the plan!

Never let a crisis you caused go to waste.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 02:16 PM | Reply

People didn't listen...Musk flat out said, and I'll paraphrase:

"People will need to suffer before things get better".

I mean, if you worked for the federal government in any capacity, how could you vote for Trump?

They basically outlined they were gutting government.

#44 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-02-27 02:33 PM | Reply

If I were to do something like this it would hoping nobody would notice I let go a bunch of people. That would be the ultimate defense for doing it.

There is no chance that's how it's going to go, however.

Look at the FAA.....Jesus, a plane experiences turbulence and it makes the news....that's what's in store for all of these layoffs........the news has fodder for "see, I ------- told you these layoffs would hurt people!!!"

That's a certainty.

Before the end of the day, they're gonna pin Gene Hackman's death on some cut.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 02:43 PM | Reply

-I mean, if you worked for the federal government in any capacity, how could you vote for Trump?

None of them think he meant them

Everyone thinks they are essential. Doesn't matter where they work.

"He's talking about the lazy people that don't count for much......not me!"

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 02:45 PM | Reply

"None of them think he meant them"

Their White Privilege got the better of them.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't think black people are capable of believing they are essential and valuable employees?

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 02:57 PM | Reply

You got any better race bait, because that was weak even by JeffJ standards.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

See, I was agreeing with you.

I don't think White Deplorables are capable of understanding Trump will not protect them, just because they are white."
There are multiple post-purge Tweets which support that assertion.

White Deplorables in government jobs, sure that government is full of lazy people who don't count for much, it never occurred to them that they are the lazy people who don't count for much.

Probably true for Black Deplorables too. It's entirely possible Black Deplorables are even stupider than the White ones.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-02-27 03:10 PM | Reply

Let's be honest. The vast majority of MAGAs are stupid or racist or just plain vindictive or all of the above. Of course they are fuming. They are always fuming. Who gives a fuck about how these laid off morons feel? I seriously could not care less about their well being.

#51 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-27 03:36 PM | Reply

"Of course they are fuming. They are always fuming"

so are you

and many others here.

In fact, you all attack me for NOT fuming.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2025-02-27 03:39 PM | Reply

fuming or smelly?

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-27 03:41 PM | Reply

Hey, Eberly, show me a single posting of mine from the past five years where I have personally attacked you. You can't. Because the truth is I think you are a pretty good contributor and I have never plonked you.

As for what you claim is my "fuming", do not mistake outrage at Trump's stupidity with mere anger.

#54 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-02-27 03:44 PM | Reply

I think a new age of Civil Unrest is coming.

That's part of the plan. Then he can declare martial law and adjourn congress.

#55 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-02-27 03:53 PM | Reply

None of them think he meant them

Everyone thinks they are essential. Doesn't matter where they work.

Then they lack common sense and how "upper management" works, in this case Trump.

You can be a very valuable and loyal employee and still get axed.

Trump is basically following the Project 2025 blueprint without referring to it.

You didn't have to be a critical thinker to realize this was going to happen, but you could be stupid and fall for it lol

#56 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-02-27 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The media did a terrible job of exposing Project 2025 to the masses

#57 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-02-27 04:14 PM | Reply

The media did a terrible job of exposing Project 2025 to the masses

Maybe Fox, but certainly not CNN or MSNBC IMO.

Trump denied it, said he knew nothing about it. Again, lie.

I keep saying it, we are going to get what we deserve. Trump did not force himself on us like a dictator, we voted him in.

#58 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-02-27 04:19 PM | Reply

The media is owned by a bunch of Trump supporters.

Billionaires looking for tax cuts

It's why they rarely, if ever, criticize Donald Trump or Republicans for anything they do.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-27 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump denied it, said he knew nothing about it. Again, lie.

The media asked.

The compulsive liar flat out lied.

The media showed him pictures of him with the head of project 2025.

He lied again.

The media pointed out Jethro Dull wrote the forward for the book.

He lied again.

The media showed him video bragging about the Heritage Foundations great plan for his second term.

He lied again.

The man who lied 30,000 times in his first term.

He just lied last week that "I'll protect medicaid and make it better."

Again another lie.

Macron had to point out his lie during the oval office presser that France was getting reimbursed by Ukraine for their aid.

The lies just flow like water out of his pie hole. He's had 80 years to perfect it.

How are those lies about "no taxes on social security, tips and overtime" aging?

He just flat out lies, promising everything to everyone and then only delivers for the 1%.

#60 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-02-27 05:20 PM | Reply

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