Advertisement

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, March 06, 2025

US Health Secretary and long-standing anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is facing criticism for his equivocal response to the raging measles outbreak in West Texas, which as of Tuesday has grown to 159 cases, with 22 hospitalizations and one child death.

More

Alternate links: Google News | Twitter

As measles spreads in West Texas, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. promoted cod liver oil and the antibiotic clarithromycin -- but did not urge vaccination, despite experts warning the measles vaccine is the best protection. #medsky www.nytimes.com/2025/03/04/h ...

[image or embed]

-- Ricardo Lundi, DPM (@doctorlundi.medsky.social) March 5, 2025 at 10:37 AM

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

More from the article...

... While public health officials would like to see a resounding endorsement of the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccine as the best way to protect children and vulnerable community members from further spread of the extremely infectious virus, Kennedy instead penned an Op-Ed for Fox News sprinkled with anti-vaccine talking points. Before noting that vaccines "protect individual children" and "contribute to community immunity," he stressed parental choice. The decision to vaccinate is "a personal one," he wrote, and merely advised parents to "consult with their healthcare providers to understand their options to get the MMR vaccine."

Further, Kennedy seemed more eager to embrace nutrition and supplements as a way to combat the potentially deadly infection. He declared that the "best defense" against infectious diseases, like the measles, is "good nutrition" -- not lifesaving, highly effective vaccines.

"Vitamins A, C, and D, and foods rich in vitamins B12, C, and E should be part of a balanced diet," according to Kennedy, who has no medical or health background. In particular, he highlighted that vitamin A can be used as a treatment for severe measles cases -- only when it is administered carefully by a doctor.

Vitamins over vaccines

But, Kennedy's emphasis has spurred a general embrace of vitamin A and cod liver oil (which is rich in vitamin A, among other nutrients) by vaccine-hesitant parents in West Texas, according to The Washington Post. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-05 03:27 PM | Reply

Cod liver oil embraced amid Texas measles outbreak; doctors fight misinfo
Overdoses of vitamin A have serious risks"and it doesn't prevent measles.

What a bunch of morons. Everyone knows that leeches are the way to go.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-05 03:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Cod liver oil mixed with ivermectin cures anything.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-05 03:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I've always been a big believer in leeches.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-05 03:31 PM | Reply

grown to 159 cases

Thats it? In 2019 there were 1200+, I don't recall anyone caring then?

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-05 03:52 PM | Reply

Don't forget blood letting.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-05 03:53 PM | Reply

Thats it? In 2019 there were 1200+, I don't recall anyone caring then?
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

Just because you don't remember it, doesn't mean people weren't concerned.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-05 04:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

In 2019 there were 1200+

Trump emboldens the stupidest of people.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-05 04:12 PM | Reply

Onenut: 2019 had 12 months. Multiply 160 by 12 and get back to us.
And 160 is vastly undercounting.

#9 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-03-05 05:38 PM | Reply

Thats it? In 2019 there were 1200+, I don't recall anyone caring then?

#5 | POSTED BY IAMRUNT

In 2020 the-------------'s mass graves were all the rage.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-05 06:20 PM | Reply

Maybe cod liver oil is something they remember from Tex Ritter's Patent Medicine Hour.

#11 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-03-05 06:33 PM | Reply

159 cases and 1 death doesn't sound like a pandemic although Democrats are very emphatic and enthusiastic about creating pandemics and shutting down society with the costliest most intrusive unproven treatments. Why doesn't the "government" progressively test all supplements and old time outside the box treatments for efficacy? Could it be because there is no money in it for their lobbies and big pharma and big healthcare and patents?

#12 | Posted by Robson at 2025-03-06 10:53 AM | Reply

If Trump or RFKennedy found a cure for cancer the Democrats and their crooked pals in big pharma and big health would be working to purposely nullify it so as to use it for political and donor advantage. Our American society would be better off if all radical leftist aligned Dems were deported to the EU where speech is not free and where people are imprisoned by elites for saying the wrong thing..

#13 | Posted by Robson at 2025-03-06 10:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13 - So we'll put in the column for cod liver oil for support during a deadly illness instead of getting a vaccination. Got it.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-06 11:01 AM | Reply

Welllllll... it has lots of Vitimin D... and laxative effects... not sure I want to combine a sick, cranky child, feverish, and stuck in a dark room with laxatives... but hey... it's your full-grown fetus... do with it what you will.

Tariffs on kids sunglasses... yay

#15 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-03-06 11:03 AM | Reply

#4

We know. You vote for them.

#16 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-03-06 11:04 AM | Reply

Thats it? In 2019 there were 1200+, I don't recall anyone caring then?
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

The 2019 U.S. Measles outbreaks: A public health crisis

In recent decades, many public health experts warned that the widespread protection from vaccine-preventable diseases we achieved in the U.S. was under threat. As parental vaccine hesitancy increased and unvaccinated individuals clustered geographically, experts believed these trends were creating an untenable situation in the U.S. which would eventually result in the reemergence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

This is precisely what occurred this year--89% of the measles cases in 2019 were in individuals who were unvaccinated or had unknown vaccine status. Sadly, as a result, we as a nation lost the critical protection afforded to us through herd immunity " the protection that occurs when enough of a community is vaccinated to interrupt disease transmission. Herd immunity is especially important for measles, a disease so highly contagious that the virus can live for up to two hours in an airspace where an infected individual was and for which vaccination levels must remain extremely high.

As the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health departments across the U.S. fought to get measles under control and prevent the U.S. from losing its measles elimination status, we at Texas Children's Hospital knew we had a job to do. We needed to make parents aware of the risk measles poses to the U.S. After all, most parents, myself included, have never experienced measles. We have no memory of its painful reality. As a result, some parents fail to understand and appreciate the impact measles can have on our children and communities. Such complacency and failure to vaccinate allowed measles to take a foothold in our country and it could do so again if we don't learn from our mistakes and ensure we vaccinate our children, on time, every time.

www.texaschildrens.org

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Trump or RFKennedy found a cure for cancer

#13 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Well, they aren't are they?

In fact, they have destroyed ongoing cancer research.

You are a pathetic little dweeb in a political movement composed of other pathetic little dweebs.

I guess there's strength in dweeb numbers.

Enjoy the cancer your family gets.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-06 11:26 AM | Reply

159 cases and 1 death doesn't sound like a pandemic

#12 | POSTED BY ROBSON AT

Of course it's not pandemic, jackass. But it is killing kids. Give a sh--?

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-06 11:27 AM | Reply

#18 | Posted by Zed

FYI:"Robson" is just an actor and quite possibly a foreign agitator.

Not a real American and only here to foment discord.

Like most of the alleged "conservatives" here.

#20 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-03-06 11:35 AM | Reply

159 cases and 1 death doesn't sound like a pandemic

158 cases and 1 death.. soon to be zero!

Just another democrat hoax.

It will all go away as soon as it warms up and we lube ourselves up with enough cod liver oil.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-06 11:41 AM | Reply

From Texas Children's Hospital this week:

Protect Your Child from Measles
03/04/2025

Why does my child need protection against measles?

Measles is a highly contagious virus that can survive in the air for up to two hours. It is so contagious that up to 9 out of 10 people will be infected if unprotected and exposed to the virus.

About 1 out of every 3 people who catch measles will develop a complication. The most common complications are ear infections and diarrhea, but more serious complications like pneumonia and encephalitis (swelling of the brain due to infection), or even death can occur due to measles.

Nearly 1 out of every 5 people who catch measles ends up in the hospital. Measles can be especially dangerous in infants and young children, as well as persons with weakened immune systems. They may need to be hospitalized to receive oxygen or mechanical ventilation due to difficulty breathing or IV fluids due to severe dehydration.

www.texaschildrens.org

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:48 AM | Reply

159 cases and 1 death doesn't sound like a pandemic

Nobody said it is a pandemic ...

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-06 11:49 AM | Reply

If Trump or RFKennedy found a cure for cancer the Democrats and their crooked pals in big pharma and big health would be working to purposely nullify it

Hey dumbf^%*, if this is true then why is it pharma companies that are developing and treating with immunotherapies? You now, the newest wave of treatments that has a significant curative effect in patients who receive it ...

Just STFU idiot.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-06 11:51 AM | Reply

If Trump or RFKennedy found a cure for cancer the Democrats and their crooked pals in big pharma and big health would be working to purposely nullify it so as to use it for political and donor advantage.
#13 | Posted by Robson

No, people would be grateful just like people were grateful Trump fast-tracked the Covid virus, even if he did f--- up on other aspects of the covid pandemic. However, if RFK Jr said he found a cure for cancer that turned out to be bogus, a lot of people could be hurt.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-06 11:52 AM | Reply

Nobody said it is a pandemic ...

#23 | POSTED BY JPW

Covid wasn't a pandemic either when there were only 15 cases soon to be zero!

But measles cannot become a pandemic unless we actually assist it.

We already have the vaccines for it. Now we just have to get citizens to take them properly.

The only way the measles could become a pandemic in America is if republicans actively helped it.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-06 12:04 PM | Reply

"If Trump or RFKennedy found a cure for cancer the Democrats and their crooked pals in big pharma and big health would be working to purposely nullify it"

Remind me,
which President,
and which head of FDA,
cut Federal funding for cancer research?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-06 12:10 PM | Reply

How much was insulin under democrats?

How much is it now?

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-06 12:54 PM | Reply

Cod liver oil? That sounds disgusting.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-06 05:13 PM | Reply

" cut Federal funding for cancer research?

#27 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2025-03-06 12:10 PM | FLAG: "

Didn't happen. A cap of 15% for indirect costs was imposed on universities, which is the same cap already imposed on private sector research.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-06 05:15 PM | Reply

Cod liver oil? That sounds disgusting.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-03-06 05:13 PM | Reply

It ain't that bad. It's viscous but that's about it.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-06 05:15 PM | Reply

"Didn't happen. A cap of 15% for indirect costs was imposed on universities, which is the same cap already imposed on private sector research."

You are lying, in two ways.

First, that 15% cut is the cut I am referring to.

Second, the only reason the cut didn't happen is because a Federal judge blocked it, for the time being.

You really want cuts to cancer and other valuable medical research, so bad that you'll lie about it. What the hell happened to you?

Temporary Restraining Order Issued Blocking NIH 15% Cap on Indirect Costs
apnews.com

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-06 06:44 PM | Reply

An unvaccinated person who died in New Mexico has tested positive for measles, state health officials said...

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-06 07:11 PM | Reply

An unvaccinated person who died in New Mexico has tested positive for measles, state health officials said...

Posted by YAV at 2025-03-06 07:11 PM | Reply

That's just ridiculous. I can't wrap my head around this. I really can't. My dad almost died from the measles when he was 10 years old. He made damned sure we got ALL of our vaccinations when they were due. I just don't understand people that refuse to get them.

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-06 07:14 PM | Reply

34. Yes, and who are these pediatricians who just say, "Family choice not to vaccinate. OK"?

Do people go pediatrician-shopping for those who don't vaccinate? MDs don't grant people natural smarts or compassion.

#35 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-03-06 07:31 PM | Reply

My dad almost died from the measles when he was 10 years old.

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-06 07:14 PM |

Too bad he didn't, just sayin.

#36 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-03-06 08:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#34 ... I just don't understand people that refuse to get them. ...

Well, for starters, Sec Kennedy has made lots of money by advocating against vaccinations.

Warren pushes Kennedy on his financial gain from vaccine lawsuits
www.politico.com

... "You won't go to work for a drug company after you leave HHS, but you and I both know there's another way to make money," Warren said. ...

Kennedy has also made millions advocating against vaccinations through books and his nonprofit Children's Health Defense, from which he resigned late last year. According to public tax filings from December 2023, Michael Baum, senior partner at Wisner Baum, is also on the board of Children's Health Defense.

The nominee still expects millions from book deals, including a book titled "Unsettled Science." ...



#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-06 08:22 PM | Reply

Taking a step back here ...

What, exactly are Sec Kennedy's medical credentials?

#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-06 08:23 PM | Reply

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.

Wm.. Shakespeare, Macbeth

#39 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-03-07 07:36 AM | Reply

So here we are: HHS is recommending pre-vaccine era home remedies for preventable and potentially fatal diseases.

My grandfather told me that back when kids all got worms the home remedy was sugar mixed with a little turpentine. Is there any doubt wormbrain will promote the same remedy when childhood worms make a comeback?

#40 | Posted by anton at 2025-03-07 07:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Upside is most of the unvaxxed are religious nutjobs so their demise is a net plus for the country.

#41 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-03-07 11:07 AM | Reply

Thats it? In 2019 there were 1200+, I don't recall anyone caring then?
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

Yeah, it's only March.

Damn you're dumb.

Swallow it.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-07 11:54 AM | Reply

#36 | Posted by fortfisher

You're a trash human being.

Swallow it.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-03-07 12:09 PM | Reply

My dad almost died from the measles when he was 10 years old.

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-06 07:14 PM |

Too bad he didn't, just sayin.

#36 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER

Typical hate filled maga response.

You are a very sick person.

Seek professional help before you harm yourself or others.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-07 12:43 PM | Reply

What, exactly are Sec Kennedy's medical credentials?

#38 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2025-03-06 08:23 PM | FLAG:

Well, he says he had a worm that ate part of his brain, which is a health problem. And he did a bunch of heroin, which is kind of like medicine.

#45 | Posted by cbob at 2025-03-07 01:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Soon he will be suggesting sharing lollipops with the infected is better than a vaccine.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-07 01:49 PM | Reply

What, exactly are Sec Kennedy's medical credentials?

His medical credentials are that he will do everything donold tells him to do without hesitation whether it is bad medical policy or not. He will make the public sicker in trade for a tax cut.

#47 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-07 01:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Cod Liver Oil Embraced Amid Texas Measles Outbreak

Anti-science has a way of making you look like a fool! Let's see how high the death and suffering count rises before saner heads prevail. Somebody start a death and suffering counter!

#48 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-03-08 05:56 AM | Reply

@#45 ... Well, he says he had a worm that ate part of his brain, which is a health problem. And he did a bunch of heroin, which is kind of like medicine. ...

Sadly, your comment may have more truth than qualifications.

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-03-08 11:16 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy

Drudge Retort