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Monday, April 07, 2025

CBS News has obtained internal documents that allowed them to identify the 238 migrants that America sent to an infamously dangerous prison in El Salvador. The majority have no criminal record.

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60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of the Venezuelans the U.S. sent to a notorious mega-prison in El Salvador. https://cbsn.ws/4clubLP

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This is what happens (intentionally?) when due process is bypassed.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-07 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm surprised it's legal to send a Venezuelan detainee to El Salvador, even without the gulag part.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-07 02:39 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by snoofy

Since when has being legal bothered the orange turd and the MAGA droppings?

#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-04-07 05:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is what happens (intentionally?) when due process is bypassed.
#1 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Congress deemed it important. There is a process its just not through the judicial branch.

As I have been saying ...

Today the Supreme Court grants the Trump administration's request to continue to summarily remove noncitizens whom the gov't has designated as members of the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang under the Alien Enemies Act.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-07 07:35 PM | Reply

I'm surprised it's legal to send a Venezuelan detainee to El Salvador, even without the gulag part.
#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

When Venezuela doesn't take them, I suspect he can send them where ever he wants.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-07 07:35 PM | Reply


Since when has being legal bothered the orange turd and the MAGA droppings?

SCOTUS disagrees with your interpretation of the law.

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-07 07:36 PM | Reply

I can see the same Democrats back in 1945 making the argument: "But he was one of the good SS/Gestapo without a criminal record".

That said, I would like Democrat media to apply the same logic to every story involving an ethnic Russian. Despite lacking any proof whatsoever, all ethnic Russians are deemed to be Russian state actors. Meanwhile, guys will full MS13 and Tren De Aragua tats are deemed 'unaffiliated' with the gang. This is why the Democrats and the MSM have lost all credibility.

Here is a hint ------- Dems - AMERICAN CITIZENS don't want foreign gang members roaming their streets.

#7 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-07 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I can see the same Democrats back in 1945 making the argument: "But he was one of the good SS/Gestapo without a criminal record"."

Fat talk, after Team Trump is renditioning students off the street for SPEECH.

"Here is a hint ------- Dems - AMERICAN CITIZENS don't want foreign gang members roaming their streets."

Neither do Dems. They just want Due Process in between.

Due process is guaranteed by our Constitution. No exceptions for gang members, or those merely accused. Are you suggesting we wipe our ass with it?

And btw....someone just ratted YOU out as a gang member. Do YOU deserve due process, or not?

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 09:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

" Due process is guaranteed by our Constitution"

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-07 09:56 PM | Reply

""Here is a hint ------- Dems - AMERICAN CITIZENS don't want foreign gang members roaming their streets."
Neither do Dems. They just want Due Process in between.
#8 | Posted by Danforth"

Sure they don't - which is why Kamala was bailing them out during the BLM riots. The game is up - people had their blinders removed and they see the Democrats fighting for EVERYONE except US citizens. That is why your party is plummeting below 27% approval. If you are here illegally and join a gang, your ass is being deported - period.

#10 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-07 09:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Due process is guaranteed by our Constitution"
Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger
WRONG

Fifth Amendment
No person....shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

How is one deported without being deprived of liberty?

How does one establish whether one is eligible for asylum without due process?

How does one establish who a person is without due process?

How does one establish whether a person has protected status, without due process?

You are wrong, or lying.

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-07 10:00 PM | Reply

BTW

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-07 10:00 PM | Reply

"Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation."

JeffJ has been saying for decades that he is an armchair Constitutional Scholar.

It is not entirely evident that was a lie.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-07 10:04 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by oneironaut
#9 | Posted by BellRinger

Today the Court specifically ruled in favor of due process not summary removal. Do keep up. drudge.com

#14 | Posted by et_al at 2025-04-07 10:10 PM | Reply

"It does not apply to deportation."

How about deportation PURPOSELY TO A HELLHOLE FOREIGN PRISON?

This is as morally vacuous as Scalia pretending Guantanamo was some magic Brigadoon where America had all of the legal authority but none of the legal responsibility.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 10:22 PM | Reply

" which is why Kamala was bailing them out during the BLM riots."

Bail is part of due process.

Thanks for proving my point for me.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 10:24 PM | Reply

"Bail is part of due process.
Thanks for proving my point for me.
#16 | Posted by Danforth"

For known violent criminals that went on to victimize additional people. Thank you for proving my point - Dems want violent criminals and gang members out on your street to terrorize US citizens. Every action that they take proves this point.

#17 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-07 10:51 PM | Reply

"or known violent criminals that went on to victimize additional people."

You don't know that without due process.

What a riot: You still don't have an answer for when YOU'RE the one ratted out.

Don't be a coward, just answer: if it was YOU, would YOU deserve due process? Yes or No?

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 11:01 PM | Reply

"Don't be a coward, just answer: if it was YOU, would YOU deserve due process? Yes or No?
#18 | Posted by Danforth"

For an illegal suspected of being a gangmember? No, they do not deserve due process. By virtue of being illegal, they should be immediately deported. In fact, they should charge the Democrats under RICO for allowing the flood of illegals. For the RICO charge, I would allow for due process.

#19 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-07 11:04 PM | Reply

"known violent criminals"

Objection your honor. Foundation.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 11:05 PM | Reply

"or an illegal suspected of being a gangmember? No, they do not deserve due process"

Make sure you flush twice after using that page of the Constitution to wipe your arse.

Then answer, since you've been accused of being an illegal and you're suspected of being a gang member.

As it is, I'll note you've waived your right to due process. But I've yet to see in the Constitution where you get to waive someone else's due process.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-07 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"For an illegal suspected of being a gangmember? No, they do not deserve due process."

I'm curious if you have the balls to consider yourself a fascist.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-07 11:09 PM | Reply

"Then answer, since you've been accused of being an illegal
#21 | Posted by Danforth"

It takes all of 10 seconds to assess if the person is an illegal. After that determination, your rights should be stripped and you should be deported - I suggest by catapult at the Southern border.

#23 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-08 12:11 AM | Reply

"It takes all of 10 seconds to assess if the person is an illegal."

You fundamentally don't trust the government, and yet you trust the government to get this right, 100% of the time.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 12:12 AM | Reply

It takes all of 10 seconds to assess if the person is an illegal.

Do they use a Tricorder for that?

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-08 12:22 AM | Reply

"You fundamentally don't trust the government, and yet you trust the government to get this right, 100% of the time.
#24 | Posted by snoofy"

You don't trust the government to get this simple task right but you are willing to turn over every other aspect of your life to them. You should think more about that.

#26 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-08 12:27 AM | Reply

You don't trust the government to get this simple task right
#26 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Neither should you.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-08 12:30 AM | Reply


Today the Court specifically ruled in favor of due process not summary removal. Do keep up.

More judicial overreach.

So long as the Executive branch has some process by which they make their determination they are working within the Act.

For SCOTUS to get in the way is an over reach of their authority.

Ludecke v. Watkins, 335 U.S. 160 (1948)
Held.
1. The Alien Enemy Act precludes judicial review of the removal order.
4. The fact that hearings are utilized by the Executive to secure an informed basis for the exercise of the summary power conferred by the Act does not empower the courts to retry such hearings, nor does it make the withholding of such power from the courts a denial of due process
supreme.justia.com

Could the argument be made the conditions to execute under The Alien Enemies Act don't exist? Sure, but thats not whats going on, its judicial overeach.

Will SCOTUS overturn precedents set by previous rulings? Probably. Because Power is the name of the game, because all the other branches are broken.

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-08 12:38 AM | Reply


You don't trust the government to get this simple task right but you are willing to turn over every other aspect of your life to them.

It is a mystery.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-08 12:38 AM | Reply

"It is a mystery.
#29 | Posted by oneironaut"

I really can't understand them. They admit on a daily basis that the government is both corrupt and incompetent and their solution is to give them more money and power.

#30 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-08 12:47 AM | Reply

They admit on a daily basis that the government is both corrupt and incompetent and their solution is to give them more money and power.
#30 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Does this stupidity work for you in real life?

Or is this hamfisted trolling the best you got.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-08 01:02 AM | Reply

#28 | Posted by oneironaut

Nucking Fidiot pontificates about s**t they don't know s**t about. From today's per curium:

Per Curiam succeed on the merits of this action. The detainees also sought equitable relief against summary removal. Although judicial review under the AEA is limited, we have held that an individual subject to detention and removal under that statute is entitled to "judicial review'" as to "questions of interpretation and constitutionality" of the Act as well as whether he or she "is in fact an alien enemy fourteen years of age or older." Ludecke, 335 U. S., at 163'164, 172, n. 17. (Under the Proclamation, the term "alien enemy" is defined to include "all Venezuelan citizens 14 years of age or older who are members of TdA, are within the United States, and are not actually naturalized or lawful permanent residents of the United States." 90 Fed. Reg. 13034.) The detainees' rights against summary removal, however, are not currently in dispute. The Government expressly agrees that "TdA members subject to removal under the Alien Enemies Act get judicial review." Reply in Support of Application ToVacate 1. "It is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law" in the context of removal proceedings. Reno v. Flores, 507 U. S. 292, 306 (1993). So, the detainees are entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard "appropriate to the nature of the case." Mullanev. Central Hanover Bank & Trust Co., 339 U. S. 306, 313 (1950). More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order thatthey are subject to removal under the Act. The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs.
drudge.com

Stick to s**t you know something about which from what I've seen is nothing.

#32 | Posted by et_al at 2025-04-08 01:03 AM | Reply

"You don't trust the government to get this simple task right"

Correct.

"but you are willing to turn over every other aspect of your life to them."

Huh?
What other aspects of my life have I turned over to the governmemnt?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 01:04 AM | Reply

2Lumps gets all his information from X.com.

He's the best source of Reich wing misinformation and gaslighting.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-08 01:07 AM | Reply

Or is this hamfisted trolling the best you got.

I'd give it a 3 out of 10 on the DR troll scale.

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-08 01:09 AM | Reply

""It takes all of 10 seconds to assess if the person is an illegal.""

AND YOU WERE ASSESSED IN 9 SECONDS. Then, when you were in the cell, we saw you talking to someone.

Now...do YOU deserve due process, or not?

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 01:36 AM | Reply

"AND YOU WERE ASSESSED IN 9 SECONDS."

Should take less time than that as I am a citizen. Valid passport. Real ID. SS# etc.

"Then, when you were in the cell, we saw you talking to someone.
#36 | Posted by Danforth"

And? Did I tat up MS13 across my forehead?

#37 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-08 05:19 AM | Reply

Alright I'm just going to enter it in the computer here that the -------- object to the illegal immigrants getting deported....

And they're gone....

Please find some more illegal immigrants to complain about getting deported.

But what those 238 people...

Sorry, they're gone.

#38 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-08 06:01 AM | Reply

an illegal suspected of being a gangmember? No, they do not deserve due process. By virtue of being illegal, they should be immediately deported. In fact, they should charge the Democrats under RICO for allowing the flood of illegals. For the RICO charge, I would allow for due process.

#19 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-07 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes...

#39 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-08 06:05 AM | Reply

"Sorry, they're gone."

You're not sorry, you couldn't be happier that innocent civilians were sent to Gulag.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 08:56 AM | Reply

Your complaints didn't do too well...

#41 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-08 09:18 AM | Reply

They only took these folks because we gave them $6 million. They aren't going to spend all that on incarcerating them and are we going to keep paying them?

Because sooner or later, they'll just let them go unless we keep paying them to keep them locked up. It's about profit to El Salvador. They don't give a crap about these migrants.

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 09:22 AM | Reply

" Should take less time than that as I am a citizen."

Sorry; papers can be faked. Plus, we saw you taking to a known gang member.

By the way, Bub, they ALL tell us they're citizens.

But what a riot: your answer to do YOU deserve process is a proud denial of the obvious truth: that you don't NEED due process, since you're "innocent".

Looks like El Salvador for you ...

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 09:28 AM | Reply

Gulag. Concentration camp.

#44 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-04-08 09:40 AM | Reply

"Because sooner or later, they'll just let them go "

Define "go".

Because you've hit on the central point: they're cheaper dead than alive.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just a couple of months ago these dangerous criminals were picking you lettuce and tomatoes or maybe roofing your house so let's lock them in a super-max in El Salvador. Don't you feel so much safer? I honestly don't. I feel guilty like the Germans who claimed they didn't know what the Nazis were doing but they knew and so do we.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2025-04-08 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Did I tat up MS13 across my forehead?"

Good idea.
Let's get him drunk and give him a gang tattoo.
He will love it.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 09:55 AM | Reply

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You're a piece of s^*%.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-08 10:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

-Define "go".

open the door and let them walk out.

The El Salvadoran government doesn't care about any of this except the money....right?

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 10:26 AM | Reply

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You're a piece of s^*%.

#48 | Posted by jpw

We all knew that already.

Wait til they "accidentally" start deporting citizens.

Even the law says they get due process unless in a time of war. The Supreme Court side stepped the issue and said it had to play out out in district court first. But even SCOTUS said the removals require review by the court (i.e. due process).

#50 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-08 10:29 AM | Reply

"open the door and let them walk out."

Those criminals?!? Let back into society???

My guess is they "escape", and they're "never heard from again".

Again, cheaper dead than alive.

"The El Salvadoran government doesn't care about any of this except the money....right?"

That backs my theory, not yours.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 10:30 AM | Reply

-My guess is they "escape", and they're "never heard from again".

you mean they'll be executed? I suppose.....but I think we'll have to pay for such services.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 10:37 AM | Reply

TO HELP THE STUPID:

Even SCOTUS said you have to give them notice and allow them to petition the Court.

Trump didn't do that.

Even SCOTUS said some Due Process is required while we let the District Court deal with everything.

WHY IT MATTERS:

Under the Trump regime's current methods, you have no opportunity to prove the allegations are false or that you are even a citizen. They can send you to a foreign jail without giving you an opportunity to prove either and then claim that because you are on foreign soil, the court cannot order you returned.

If a Democrat becomes President, it could send Trump and other supporters to that prison and claim while it was an error, the Court cannot order him returned because it has no jurisdiction.

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-08 10:37 AM | Reply

"you mean they'll be executed?"

Um. Gee, no. They escaped, remember? So keep paying,

" I suppose.....but I think we'll have to pay for such services."

Until you KNOW someone is dead. "Carlos Hernandez" was executed and thrown in the pit out back...but we still have two more in stock.

So keep paying.

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 10:42 AM | Reply

Danforth, between your rage and your sarcasm...you can't be talked to.......I don't disagree with you but communication is impossible.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 10:47 AM | Reply

Criminal, Shmiminal.
They LOOKED Swarthy on the dog-and-pony show videos; that is all that matters!!

#56 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-04-08 10:50 AM | Reply

" Due process is guaranteed by our Constitution"

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger

"The Government expressly agrees that "TdA members subject to removal under the Alien Enemies Act get judicial review." Reply in Support of Application To Vacate 1. "It is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law" in the context of removal proceedings. Reno v. Flores, 507 U. S. 292, 306 (1993). So, the detainees are entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard "appropriate to the nature of the case." Mullane v. Central Hanover Bank & Trust Co., 339 U. S. 306, 313 (1950). More specifically, in this context, AEA detainees must receive notice after the date of this order that they are subject to removal under the Act. The notice must be afforded within a reasonable time and in such a manner as will allow them to actually seek habeas relief in the proper venue before such removal occurs."

-SCOTUS, Donald J Trump et al v. J.G.G. et al, April 7,2025

SCOTUS says you're an idiot and a traitor to your country, Jeff.

Why do you hate America? Why do you hate the Constitution?

#57 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-08 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The El Salvadoran government doesn't care about any of this except the money....right?
#49 | Posted by eberly

I guess you missed the past twenty years of Conservative leadership around the globe, from Duterte to Bukele to Assad to Netanyahu, so I'll mention something that surely you know is true, but maybe you just haven't had your coffee yet:

The Cruelty Is The Point.
Conservatives are happy to pay extra taxpayer dollars, if it means punishing the wicked.
Always have been, always will be.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"between your rage and your sarcasm"

Sorry...April Danforth has arrived at the tax office. Not a pleasant fellow.

#59 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 11:09 AM | Reply

"Why do you hate the Constitution?"

It gets in the way of his fascist desires.
JefFJ and the rest of the Deplorables are overjoyed for America to become a "Your Papers, Please" country.
Don't have your papers? Off to gulag with you!
It's really just that simple.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BY THE WAY:

SCOTUS did NOT touch on whether the Trump Admin can use the Alien Enemies Act.

It said it needed to be challenged in the Texas courts.

#61 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-08 11:15 AM | Reply

It's all good, Danforth.

One of my best friends is a CPA....he's a complete SOB to talk to right now and it's always been this way.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 11:25 AM | Reply

We've deported 238 alleged gang members? Hey DR MAGA, can you tell us how many Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang members there are in the USA? Where are they? What does "success" look like?

#63 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-04-08 11:27 AM | Reply

Any brown person with tattoos is a member of Tren de Aragua.
Signed,
ICE

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:28 AM | Reply

-The Cruelty Is The Point.

Then why give them $6 million. If they'll do it for free then let them.

I think money is the point to the Salvadorans. Have these "criminals" done anything to the citizens of El Salvador? Committed any crimes? We've established there is no evidence they committed crimes in the US that would alarm them.

You think they're just sadists?

It's about the money.....

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 11:29 AM | Reply

"You think they're just sadists?"

They're not "just" sadists.
But they are sadists.

You don't think they're sadists?
They sent people with no criminal record to one of the worst prisons in the world.

Are you really unable to say that is sadistic?
Really, Eberly?
Come on.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"...he's a complete SOB to talk to right now and it's always been this way."

Last night I worked until 4am...and was back at the desk at 8.

That'll do it to ya.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-08 11:33 AM | Reply

"Then why give them $6 million. If they'll do it for free then let them."

Who said they'll do it for free?
That's your own little straw man.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:34 AM | Reply

"They're not "just" sadists.
But they are sadists."

I agree it's sadistic, no question.

But it's about the money to them and it's about the optics to Trump. He loves it being displayed that way.

"Finally, a president gives a ---- about getting rid of these violent savages!!!!" - MAGA

That is why we saw what we saw....it's exactly what Trump wanted.

He's got you pissed....and his supporters all sporting wood over it at the same time. A 2-Fer.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 11:38 AM | Reply

Venezuelan Americans voted for tRump because Biden talked to the Venezuelan government.
Muslim Americans voted for tRump to punish Harris.
Tots and pears for Gaza and Venezuelan refugees.

#70 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-04-08 11:44 AM | Reply

It's interesting to see Insurrectionists arguing the merits of kidnapping, rendition and denial of habeas corpus/due process here.

Of course we know you traitors are happy to see "illegals" deported ... you elected a wannabe dictator after backing the assault on Congress.

Thanks for sharing your opinions with us, it's good to be reminded that you are all white nationalist christofascists. Before anyone says "not all of us," there's still room for being completely cool with white nationalist christofascists, otherwise we wouldn't be here right now.

#71 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-04-08 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We've deported 238 alleged gang members? Hey DR MAGA, can you tell us how many Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang members there are in the USA? Where are they? What does "success" look like?

#72 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-04-08 11:46 AM | Reply

"But it's about the money to them and it's about the optics to Trump. He loves it being displayed that way."

Okay. That doesn't change anything. It's still sadistic.
Trump is transactional, he wants to show off the receipts for his sadism.
Get it?

"He's got you pissed"

It doesn't anger you that we are sending innocent civilians are sent to Gulag?
Okay then you can go ---- right off because you have no morals and no conscience.
Get it?

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's got you pissed..

That was a reference to the entire left who's vocally against this.

not "you".

and not "me".

"It doesn't anger you...."

don't tell me what I'm angry about or should be angry about. It's not about my emotions. If you want to argue my position, fine. But leave my emotions (that you assign to me) out of it.

we all have our triggers.

This is sadistic and wrong. I already said so.....but I still have no morals nor a conscience.

You're so desperate for attention, you have to go down this very muddy road every time, don't you?

Well, I tried to talk to you like an adult. I already know it's a waste of time but I was hoping you'd get further before -------- yourself.

You smell now......go change.

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2025-04-08 12:01 PM | Reply

"don't tell me what I'm angry about or should be angry about."

Whew! That's gonna be a real time saver.

Because the list of things Republicans are angry about is too big to fit into the 8,000 character limit.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"don't tell me what I'm angry about or should be angry about."

Fun fact: The question mark at the end of the sentence indicates I was asking you if you're angry about it.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 12:08 PM | Reply

This is sadistic and wrong. I already said so
#74 | Posted by eberly

Well, I believe you, but I don't see where you ever actually said that. Maybe you remember and you can point me to it.

You asked if they were sadists, and didn't say anything about it being wrong, and sort of downplayed the cruelty and made it just about the money:

You think they're just sadists?
It's about the money.....
#65 | Posted by eberly

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 12:17 PM | Reply

That's what their trying to hide. 75% are just random pickups of legal brown people.

#78 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-04-08 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

#9 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

For the last eleventy billion years right wing doosh nozzles changed "being undocumented is a crime".

Those goal posts heavy Jeff?

#79 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-04-08 01:36 PM | Reply

you mean they'll be executed? I suppose.....but I think we'll have to pay for such services.

#52 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Shanked in the showers ... executed ...

Tomato ... tuhmato ...

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-08 01:40 PM | Reply

Due process is for those who have been charged with a crime. It does not apply to deportation.

Wrong. You are to the right of Justice Scalia on this.

www.pbs.org

What the law says: The Fifth Amendment states that "no person ... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

The issue of due process is at the heart of many immigration cases, including Reno v. Flores, the 1993 Supreme Court case that has returned to the spotlight with the surge in family separations. The case led to an agreement requiring the government to release children to their parents, a relative or a licensed program within 20 days.

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings."

#81 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-08 01:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I repeat:

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings."

Learn something, please.

#82 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-08 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You are to the right of Justice Scalia on this."

JeffJ has always been to the right of Scalia.
He is not sufficiently honest to acknowledge that about himself.

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

all those that were deported are good boys just trying to live a life......and vote Democrat.

#84 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-04-08 03:11 PM | Reply

all those that were deported are good boys just trying to live a life......and vote Democrat.

#84 | Posted by fishpaw

Based on the government's evidence, Yes.

The government's evidence is "the lack of evidence is the evidence."

#85 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-04-08 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

SCOTUS disagrees with your interpretation of the law.

#6 | Posted by oneironaut

SCOTUS is mostly owned by POTUS

#86 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-04-08 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

all those that were deported are good boys just trying to live a life......and vote Democrat.

#84 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

This piece of s^%# is so braindead, it views constitutional rights through a fake lens about voting conspiracies.

What a f^%*ing idiot.

#87 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-08 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

all those that were deported are good boys just trying to live a life......and vote Democrat.

#84 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Psychological projection.

Only citizens can vote in federal elections.

Funny how most of the handful of voter fraud cases have been committed by Republicans. Psychological projection.

You're very fu$%#+g stupid. Very.

#88 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-08 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#84 | POSTED BY FISHPAWN

Are there any Trump supporters who haven't drunk the kool aide?

Liberals are concerned with civil rights, justice and due process.

If that causes people to vote for them, then so be it.

Conservatives are concerned with hate, ignorance and bigotry.

If that causes people people to vote for them, then so be it.

It's clear which side you've chosen.

You've always been a weak person. It makes sense you view Trump as a strong man.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-08 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Only citizens can vote in federal elections.

Repeating this fact for the peons in the gallery.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-08 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It is obvious and likely that Biden and his angry hidden and masked spokes people like Ron Klain etc set up these illegals and rape gangs and druggie rapists to be sent to prison in El Salvatore. Democrats created the illegal immigrant fraud as a means to screw America for citizen Americans.

Now we have the gangsta talking hood Crockett telling us and illustrating just how clueless Democrats have really become. They have lost everything that they ever were. Most Americans
recognize that Democrats are radicals no longer viable as an opposition party with sense.

#91 | Posted by Robson at 2025-04-08 06:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It is obvious and likely that Biden and his angry hidden and masked spokes people like Ron Klain etc set up these illegals and rape gangs and druggie rapists to be sent to prison in El Salvatore.

Occam's razor says Trump just doesn't care about the law.

You're also crazy.

#92 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-08 06:22 PM | Reply

Democrats are moving our country towards more hate and inevitably civil war. They support and say it themselves. The left thrives on groups like ANTIFA wearing black and anonymity masks and hating and violence towards everyone who doesn't bow and support their anger and establishment beliefs. They elect fools and they attack and protest anyone who thinks differently.

Why did Biden import millions of criminals?

#93 | Posted by Robson at 2025-04-08 06:24 PM | Reply

Imagine if Robson had put his back into working as much as he does trolling.

He coulda been somebody.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-08 06:37 PM | Reply

- millions of criminals?

Yet another Big Lie from the same source.

All immigrants, including illegals, have a lower per capita crime rate than US citizens. AND they have always been a net positive for the Economy.

One can just about hear the, "they're eating the cats!" meme reverbing in Robson's head.

#95 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-08 06:44 PM | Reply

... U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records ...

Well, yeah.

That is why the Trump admin seems to be so afraid of due process.

I mean, even with the recent SCOTUS decision about the deportations, where Pres Trump declared a victory...

imo, he lost. Big time.

Nine ( NINE ) of the Justices said that due process is required in the deportation process.


Yeah, the 5-4 decision made the headlines, but the 9-0 decision is the important one for me.

Due Process.

As I have been saying for a couple weeks here.

Due Process.

And now the SCOTUS seems to agree with me.

Supreme Court Rejects Trump's Claim That He Can Summarily Deport Anyone He Describes As an 'Alien Enemy'
reason.com

... Although the Court lifted an order that temporarily blocked removal of suspected gang members, it unambiguously affirmed their right to judicial review.

The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously agreed that alleged members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua have a due process right to challenge President Donald Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) to summarily deport them. ...



#96 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-08 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm probably one the few posters on this forum that has truly voted both for Dem and Republicans. I've been able to see both sides, not that it makes me special but it does make me independent. Democrats have gone way over the hill with no intent of ever being supporters of patriots. Dems want mostly power and control. But control for their party instead of control to protect the citizens.

#97 | Posted by Robson at 2025-04-08 06:56 PM | Reply

#97

Doesn't in any way refute the facts in #95... and there's a reason for that.

Because they are facts, and Trumpers are fact-free stooges.

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-08 07:14 PM | Reply

@#97 ... I'm probably one the few posters on this forum that has truly voted both for Dem and Republicans. ...

I was a registered Republican until the Tea Party, until their misogynist candidates invaded the party back around the early 2000's or so.

... I've been able to see both sides, not that it makes me special but it does make me independent. ...

I am currently registered as "unaffiliated" here in Connecticut. Here, the Independent Party seems to be a branch of the Republican Party. In CT, unaffiliated means neither Dem nor Rep.

... Democrats have gone way over the hill with no intent of ever being supporters of patriots. ...

Please define your use of the word "patriots." Currently it seems to be used to describe an obsequious adulation of Pres Trump.

I know how the dictionaries define it, but am unable to correlate those definitions with how your current aliases the word.

... Dems want mostly power and control. ...

Yeah, now your current alias seems to be projecting Pres Trump's autocracy attempt onto the Democrats.


What else does your current alias got?






#99 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-08 07:31 PM | Reply

@#98 ... Doesn't in any way refute the facts in #95... and there's a reason for that. ...

Well, yeah.

Your comment was fact-oriented.

And MAGA is lie-oriented.


#100 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-08 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And...

Back to the topic of this thread instead of current alias' Robson's obvious (and lame) deflection attempt ...

From #96 ...

... That is why the Trump admin seems to be so afraid of due process.

I mean, even with the recent SCOTUS decision about the deportations, where Pres Trump declared a victory...

imo, he lost. Big time.

Nine ( NINE ) of the Justices said that due process is required in the deportation process.

Yeah, the 5-4 decision made the headlines, but the 9-0 decision is the important one for me.

Due Process.

As I have been saying for a couple weeks here.

Due Process.

And now the SCOTUS seems to agree with me.

Supreme Court Rejects Trump's Claim That He Can Summarily Deport Anyone He Describes As an 'Alien Enemy ...


#101 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-08 07:37 PM | Reply

Interesting, the lack of comment to #101.

A tacit agreement?

#102 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-08 10:57 PM | Reply

"For an illegal suspected of being a gangmember? No, they do not deserve due process."

Yes they do, you fascist pig.

JFC how far this country has fallen because of cultist ----- like you.

Swallow it.

#103 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-04-08 11:45 PM | Reply

all those that were deported are good boys just trying to live a life......and vote Democrat.
#84 | Posted by fishpaw

JFC you're dumb. And in a cult.

#104 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-04-08 11:47 PM | Reply

New Model Army - White Coats (1987)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

...
Well, we know what makes the flowers grow, but we don't know why
And we all have the knowledge of DNA, but we still die
We perch so thin and fragile here upon the land
And the earth that moves beneath us, we don't understand

So we rush towards the Judgement Day, when she reclaims
A toast to the Luddite martyrs then, who died in vain
Down at the lab they're working still, finishing off

How do we tell the people in the white coats
Enough is enough?

Hey, hey, I listen to you pray as if some help will come
Hey, hey, She will dance on our graves when we are dead and gone

You and I we made no suicide pact, we didn't want to die
But we watch the wall, little darling, while the chemical trucks go by
This desperate imitation, now, of innocence
Those last few days at Jonestown ain't got nothing on this

Hey, hey, I listen to you pray as if some help will come
Hey, hey, she will dance on our graves when we are dead and gone

Now beneath the fitted carpets, beyond the padded cells
Within these crimes of passion, the naked truth she dwells
And this fury's just a part and this thunder's just a part
Desire is just a part, the cracking ice, the splitting rock

Hey, hey, I listen to you pray as if some help will come
Hey, hey, She will dance on our graves when we are dead and gone

Hey, hey, to the suicide day, the blind man blunders on
Hey, hey, She will dance on our graves when we are dead and gone

As children learn about the world, we built that wall of sand
Along the beach we laboured hard with our bare hands
We worked until the sun went down beneath the waves
And the tide came rolling splashing in, washed the wall away
How do we tell the people in the white coats
Enough is enough?
...


#105 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-09 01:58 AM | Reply

"All immigrants, including illegals, have a lower per capita crime rate than US citizens. AND they have always been a net positive for the Economy"

Illegals have a 100% crime rate. If they're such a benefit for the economy why do they need welfare to even exist?

And Trump is pulling the money out from under that scam too.

"Feds pull more than $188M meant to reimburse NYC for migrant services, Adams says"

#106 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-09 08:42 AM | Reply

"If they're such a benefit for the economy why do they need welfare to even exist?"

You can't understand why having a labor force is good for the economy, huh?

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-09 10:44 AM | Reply

That fool may want to ask what value employees at Walmart that have to use SNAP benefits add to the economy. Or the same of the McDonald's employees in the same situation. Shall I keep going?

#108 | Posted by YAV at 2025-04-09 10:49 AM | Reply

The only labor they're doing is filling out forms and collecting money from the government

#109 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-09 11:48 AM | Reply

It is obvious and likely that Biden...
#91 | Posted by Robson

Newsflash, moron. Biden isn't President anymore. He's not running again. He's retired. So why is he still living rent free in your head?

#110 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-04-09 05:52 PM | Reply

"The only labor they're doing is filling out forms and collecting money from the government"

Wow, you're really dumb!
About half of agricultural workers are illegals.

The agricultural sector in the United States relies on foreign workers; 86 percent of agricultural workers [3] in the United States are foreign-born and 45 percent of all US agricultural workers are undocumented.
cmsny.org

About 8 million of them have jobs, making up 5 percent of the U.S. workforce, figures that have remained more or less steady for the past decade.
Geographically, these unauthorized workers are spread throughout the U.S. but are unsurprisingly most concentrated in border states like California and Texas, where they make up about 9 percent of both states' workforces, while in Nevada, their share is over 10 percent.
www.cbsnews.com

With Nearly Half of U.S. Farmworkers Undocumented, Ending Illegal Immigration Could Devastate Economy
www.newsweek.com

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-09 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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