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Sunday, June 07, 2026

Since election night in California, a single theory of election fraud has taken root like no other among online conspiracy theorists, bot accounts, conservative influencers and people close to President Trump. It proved to be a simple misreading of the voting data.

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There is a lot of misinformation floating around about California's election -- including from the President. This explainer is worth a watch. And yes, for the record: we wish the votes were counted faster, too. : @elexmichaelson.bsky.social

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-- Governor Newsom Press Office (@govpressoffice.gov.ca.gov) 3:11 PM · Jun 4, 2026

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... Late on election night, an update of vote counts in the Los Angeles mayor's race appeared on election results pages of various media outlets including the Los Angeles Times. It showed leading Democrats Mayor Karen Bass and Councilmember Nithya Raman receiving tens of thousands of new votes, and leading Republican former reality TV star Spencer Pratt receiving no new votes.

Some observers of the vote tally immediately took screenshots, with some shouting fraud. Others ran statistical analyses that showed it would be impossible for a candidate such as Pratt -- running second in the race -- to receive zero votes in such a large batch of ballots.

In fact, the update that showed zero Pratt votes was followed one minute later by another update that showed tens of thousands of votes for Pratt, and none for Bass or Raman.

There was no batch of votes that included zero votes for any candidate, as Los Angeles County's own data show plainly. ...





#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-06-06 07:42 PM | Reply

So ... the MAGA conspirators seem to have charged forth based upon incomplete information?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-06-06 10:48 PM | Reply

LOL

What I find interesting is Nithya conceded ...... then comes in 2nd place < 1%.

And the kicker is Bass hardly moved.

LOL California elections are rigged. Just rigged.

Notice I didn't say illegal, or fraudulent, just rigged.

Did you know you can submit ballots 7 days after the "election" by using a "drop box" and it doesn't need to be dated?? Whats so funny is there was one right out side the Morgan Hill library all week AFTER the election was supposedly "over".

But its all LEGAL ... the thing is built to WIN by the party in charge. Chinese news is having afield day with this election, and all the BS excuses that it was legit.

Everyone knows its ---------.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-07 12:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

LOL California elections are rigged. Just rigged.

CSAMRUNT sounds just like his child-raping hero.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-06-07 03:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did you know you can submit ballots 7 days after the "election" by using a "drop box" and it doesn't need to be dated?

Well. That's a lie. Why do you lie so much?

"Vote-by-mail ballots must be postmarked by Election Day and received by your county election office within seven days after the election to be counted."

calvoter.org

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-07 03:26 PM | Reply

Everyone knows its ---------.
#3 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Better start taking your ivermectin.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-07 03:28 PM | Reply

Kalshi and Polymarket sponsor posts promoting LA
election fraud claims.

Kalshi and Polymarket paid to boost social media posts from users promoting viral claims of fraud in the Los Angeles mayoral election.

www.npr.org

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-07 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How is BillJohnson not commenting on this?
I don't get it.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-07 09:39 PM | Reply

How is BillJohnson not commenting on this?

He has departed the site.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-06-07 09:40 PM | Reply

He has departed the site.
#9 | Posted by REDIAL

NoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!
-Darth Vader

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-07 09:55 PM | Reply

NoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!

Steady, citizen. We can get through this.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-06-07 10:09 PM | Reply

What happened to Censored?

I notice he's not around either.

No loss.

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-06-07 10:27 PM | Reply

What happened to Censored?

duck://player/J5k8ZQsZJpk

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-07 10:40 PM | Reply

Is Mr. Friend a Censored Sockpuppet?

They seem kinda similar to me.

Hasbara,and Supremacist, but not at the same time.

They both love AIPAC Democrats that's for Damn sure.

#14 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-06-07 11:03 PM | Reply

Just in, Biden wins LA mayor primary with 81 million votes!

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-08 12:07 AM | Reply

Not citing our sources?

"After Mail-In Ballots Tallied, Joe Biden Wins L.A. Mayor Race With 81 Million Votes"

babylonbee.com

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-08 12:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Spencer Pratt Drops To 3rd Place

www.nbclosangeles.com

Womp Womp, Runt.

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-06-08 12:36 AM | Reply

Maybe it's rigged, maybe it isn't. It sure as hell looks like it and that's why the conspiracy theories come about.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-08 12:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're a ------- idiot.

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-06-08 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now explain how 2020 was the most free and fair election ever. 81 Million votes LOL.

#20 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-08 01:39 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by oneironaut

Cool story.

Feel free to leave, s*&^heap.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2026-06-08 02:12 PM | Reply

Maybe it's rigged, maybe it isn't. It sure as hell looks like it.
#18 | Posted by BellRinger

What specifically are you referring to?
You. Sound. Just. Like. Your. Daddy.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-08 02:30 PM | Reply

Maybe it's rigged, maybe it isn't. It

I'll save you some time.

It isn't.

Los Angeles has paper ballots and is very openly transparent about its count.

L.A. mayoral race voter fraud claim gets debunked " by Trump's Justice Department

www.democracydocket.com

If you don't like the source. Several other outlets are reporting on it.

Most of Spencer Pratt's supporters didn't live in Los Angeles. They simply flooded social media with their support.

Which, who cares. Their options are worthless.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-08 10:44 PM | Reply

" Los Angeles has paper ballots and is very openly transparent about its count."

Okay. My understanding is the count is not what is driving the controversy. It's that the late counted ballots skewed so heavily for the candidate who conceded on Election Day to move her to second place that the ballots themselves have the appearance of being fraudulent.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-08 11:55 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff, are you filth-smearing vermin going to kill some more cops because you lost another election?

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-06-08 11:57 PM | Reply

JeffJ and BillJohnson cast illegal ballots for Spencer Pratt, in that district where he got zero votes.

That's how they know it's rigged. There should have been at least two, if our elections are honest.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 12:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's that the late counted ballots skewed so heavily for the candidate who conceded on Election Day

Fun fact, this is misinformation being spread and promoted on social media.

There's a very concentrated effort by certain groups to promote false information.

She never conceded. She thanked all the people who voted for her. Which social media turned into her concession speech.

The Trump administration nothing but deceitful.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 12:18 AM | Reply

"for the candidate who conceded"

Republicans are trained to know when women concede to men, and it's permanent and irrevocable, and never rape.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 12:21 AM | Reply

Nothing simple about Blue States and their cities when it comes to votes....

Dems: i.imgur.com

#29 | Posted by MSgt at 2026-06-09 09:55 AM | Reply

Los Angeles is a big city, but it's not that big. Entire countries have elections and counted votes much faster than this. If you don't want the possibility of looking fraudulent, have a better system since there are obviously better ways to do it than this.

#30 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-06-09 11:16 AM | Reply

#30 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Don't you worry, we're going to change the way we tabulate election results just for you and the rest of the idiot MAGAts who thought a republican had a chance of winning an election in Los Angeles.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

have a better system since there are obviously better ways to do it than this.
#30 | Posted by kwrx25

Like Florida in 2000?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 11:21 AM | Reply

"simple mix up"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#33 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-06-09 11:38 AM | Reply

who thought a republican had a chance of winning an election in Los Angeles.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack

NOT ME...I know how californians / los angelinos love to have half naked junkies shooting up

around elementary schools....people crapping all over the sidewalk....homes burned to the ground

and year and a half later people still can't get permits to build...and all the other asinine

leftist malarkey.

--sounds like a whole city of clownshacks.

#34 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-06-09 11:44 AM | Reply

"-sounds like a whole city of clownshacks."

holy crap...what would that city be called ?

LOL

#35 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-06-09 11:47 AM | Reply

"simple mix up",...........AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA

#36 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-06-09 11:48 AM | Reply

#32

Excellent point Snoofy, especially when combined with Clown's insightful #31.

jamesmadison.org

repository.law.uic.edu

reason.com

It's almost like it's possible to realize that it's possible to recognize short comings and enact change instead of just doubling down on stupidity because it's "your team" doing it.

Thanks for bringing this up, I like it when others can make my point for me.

#37 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-06-09 12:11 PM | Reply

"simple mix up"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#33 | Posted by shrimptacodan

lol,lmao

#38 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 12:18 PM | Reply

holy crap...what would that city be called ?

Memphis?

#39 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 12:19 PM | Reply

OneIQIronyCCP criticizing California elections.
That's not disingenuous AT ALL!

Nah, Chinese media is instead putting up their videos all over Wechat promoting dissention among the EU, Britain, Canada, and the USA. Pitting whites against immigrants. Same as they do every other day.

#40 | Posted by e1g1 at 2026-06-09 12:20 PM | Reply

In my home in Wisconsin I just printed a valid LA ballot. It is the ballot for the current election that happened weeks ago. I didn't lie or break any laws. They just let me download and print a current ballot.

#41 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-09 12:33 PM | Reply

Imagine LA told pollsters cost of living was the #1 issue, and then voted to increase sales tax, not on billionaires, but on themselves.

BuT ItS NoT FrAud

#40 | POSTED BY E1G1
I see you have no argument.

#42 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 12:37 PM | Reply

They just let me download and print a current ballot.

#41 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Isn't that special? Vistard can use the internets!

Now. Go ahead and try and vote with it.

...

My understanding is the count is not what is driving the controversy.

My understanding is that it's Trumpy's hateful lies and nutty conspiracy theories that is driving the "controversy ".

And maga moronic useful tools like you.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-09 12:39 PM | Reply


who thought a republican had a chance of winning an election in Los Angeles.
#31 | Posted by ClownShack

I see someone got their talking point emails.

It wasn't about winning, no one that Platt would win, its that he would expose the rot in LA, which he was doing.

Now the rot in LA will be swept under the rug, and the debate will be about bikelanes and BBQs.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 12:39 PM | Reply

LOL California elections are rigged. Just rigged.

Notice I didn't say illegal, or fraudulent, just rigged.

Did you know you can submit ballots 7 days after the "election" by using a "drop box" and it doesn't need to be dated?? Whats so funny is there was one right out side the Morgan Hill library all week AFTER the election was supposedly "over".

But its all LEGAL ... the thing is built to WIN by the party in charge. Chinese news is having afield day with this election, and all the BS excuses that it was legit.

Everyone knows its ---------.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut

Oh look mr "I'm not maga" pops up to parrot his maga propaganda as usual.

Allowing people to vote by mail is not rigging stupid.

Republicans are so anti democracy that for them, if people get to vote then its RIGGED!

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It wasn't about winning, no one that Platt would win, its that he would expose the rot in LA, which he was doing.

Now the rot in LA will be swept under the rug, and the debate will be about bikelanes and BBQs.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut

If you cared at all about rot and corruption you wouldnt be maga.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Now the rot in LA will be swept under the rug

#44 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

I always wonder how MAGA manages not to choke to death on their own hypocrisy.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2026-06-09 12:41 PM | Reply

In my home in Wisconsin I just printed a valid LA ballot. It is the ballot for the current election that happened weeks ago. I didn't lie or break any laws. They just let me download and print a current ballot.

#41 | Posted by visitor_

You should send it in and see what happens.

Hope you're willing to risk prison time.

Now how many people do you think are willing to risk prison time in order to change an election by ONE VOTE?

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 12:42 PM | Reply

My understanding is the count is not what is driving the controversy.

Thats because you don't understand ----.

My understanding is that it's Trumpy's hateful lies and nutty conspiracy theories that is driving the "controversy ".

Thats because Trump is rotting your brain. You got any facts NO you just lie around blaming someone you've had a ------ for for a decade.

This is why people know there's fraud in the system. if you can read this graph and honestly think the system isn't fraught with fraud, you're too stupid to vote.
x.com

#49 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 12:45 PM | Reply

This is why people know there's fraud in the system.

49 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Where's the logic in committing fraud in an election you know you will win anyway?

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2026-06-09 12:48 PM | Reply

"Where's the logic in committing fraud in an election you know you will win anyway?"

Yes, that's right, The question is directed at you.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2026-06-09 12:50 PM | Reply

| POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Not to put too fine a point on it, but...

Given how loathed Trump/MAGA is at this moment, where's the logic in expecting ANY Trump/MAGA candidate would win, even in many red states, much less freaking California?

As an aside, when you really eff up on this forum, do your handlers dock your pay?

#52 | Posted by Zed at 2026-06-09 12:58 PM | Reply

Thanks for bringing this up, I like it when others can make my point for me.
#37 | Posted by kwrx25

I'm glad you agree that Florida 2000 had "the possibility of looking fraudulent."

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 01:09 PM | Reply

#53 of course it did. It was a horrible look, weakened whomever was the eventual winner as President, and on and on...

You can't say the same about LA? Or is it defend defend defend, because it's viewed as your teams? We only get stronger when we acknowledge our weaknesses and adapt.

#54 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-06-09 01:22 PM | Reply

California legalized ballot harvesting and ballot curing. It is legal but justly sows distrust in California's election integrity.
The optics are terrible and so is the process. The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day,
Not weeks later and it's amazing how the late arriving ballots always deliver the outcome the establishment wants.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 01:31 PM | Reply

The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day,

Why the ---- do you care, JEFF? Part of the reason it takes so long is that there are so many ballots and protocols must be followed to ensure fraud was not committed. By your standard, all ballots should be counted and a candidate should be rushed to the podium to declare victory by EOD. You think that's a practical way of ensuring election integrity? Just because you think the voters deserve it? HAHAHAHA!! JFC you people are more twisted than a bag of pretzels!!

#56 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2026-06-09 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You can't say the same about LA? Or is it defend defend defend, because it's viewed as your teams?"

I don't see what's happening in LA as anywhere close to Florida 2000. What exactly do you see as being so problematic in LA? Is it just that it's taking a long time?

Are lawyers even involved in LA? Because they sure were in Florida.

Is there a Brooks Brothers riot type of event happening in LA?

All I see about this "controversy" comes from right wing disinformation; known propaganda outlets.

Are you, personally, seeing something different?

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 01:52 PM | Reply

"The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day"

And who deserves to pay for that?

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 01:53 PM | Reply

"The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day,
Not weeks later"

2000 on Line 1.
2020 holding on Line 2.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 01:54 PM | Reply

#56. My post flew so far over your head. JFC. You see "Posted by Bellringer" and promptly lose your mind. Are you incapable of seeing why this has the appearance of fraudulence?

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 02:05 PM | Reply

"The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day"

Then call it something different. It is really just a "Voting deadline day". Then there is a different deadline to get each ballot certified as received from 'eligible voters', opened and moved on to another area where the counted ballot no longer has voter information attached. Do you want it dont right, or done fast?

#61 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-06-09 02:07 PM | Reply

I want it to be open and transparent. California's system is neither. It may very well reflect the will of the voters but the optics are terrible and even some left wing news outlets are calling it out.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 02:24 PM | Reply

California elections are rigged.

You idiots expect a city that is 81% democrats to vote for a Pedo47 endorsed candidate?

#63 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-06-09 02:34 PM | Reply

California legalized ballot harvesting and ballot curing. It is legal but justly sows distrust in California's election integrity.
The optics are terrible and so is the process. The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day,
Not weeks later and it's amazing how the late arriving ballots always deliver the outcome the establishment wants.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger

/thread.
he's right you know. no half-baked rationalizations can change that.

#64 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 02:35 PM | Reply

List of countries that typically have same day election results while California takes a month to count (via Grok):

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bhutan
Botswana
Bulgaria
Canada
Chad
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Ethiopia
Finland
France
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
India
Indonesia
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Ivory Coast / Cte d'Ivoire
Japan
Jordan
Kenya
Kuwait
Latvia
Lebanon
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Malta
Mauritius
Namibia
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nigeria
Norway
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Senegal
Seychelles
Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
Tunisia
United Arab Emirates (UAE)
United Kingdom

#65 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 02:38 PM | Reply

I hope they take longer next election cycle just to piss off MAGA even more.

Only the dumbest of people thought Spencer Pratt had a chance at winning in Los Angeles.

All the people who are upset Pratt lost don't live in Los Angeles and only care because social media is feeding them anger.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 02:41 PM | Reply

Trump's DOJ investigated the election results and found zero fraud.

But social media influencers are being paid to cast doubt on the election results.

And it's working.

Just look at the idiots on this thread repeating the lies they were fed.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 02:48 PM | Reply

The optics are terrible and so is the process.

Oh no!

Not, "the optics"!

Hurry!

Let's change the way we do everything so people living in other states can feel more comfortable!

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 02:50 PM | Reply

^please secede. considering your 81% majority it should be easy.

#69 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 02:56 PM | Reply

...so people living in other states can feel more comfortable!

"Stay out of California or we will shoot you!"
~Boaz

#70 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-06-09 02:57 PM | Reply

Trumpy's hateful lies and nutty conspiracy theories that is driving the "controversy "

That's what led to people getting killed on 1/6.

His lies.

He will vote via mail in ballot and then post about how mail in voting is ripe with fraud.

Mail in ballots are very secure but the process of counting ballots post marked the day of the election slows down the count which allows the traitorous blob to cry fraud and then the dummies believe him.

#71 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-06-09 02:57 PM | Reply

please secede. considering your 81% majority it should be easy.
#69 | POSTED BY JOHN_SAVAGE2

I wish we could.

California would benefit.

America would suffer.

Especially Red states that depend on California to pay for their horribly governed state.

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 03:00 PM | Reply

Serious question, for people who believe there is "the appearance of fraud" here:

How long should it take for California to count 1,693,093 mail-in ballots and 397,392 in-person ballots?

A day?

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:03 PM | Reply

India has same day results when it take them more than a month just to vote?

#74 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-06-09 03:04 PM | Reply

Not even California.

Just Los Angeles.

What the real issue is, is Los Angeles, I'm pretty sure all of California, does paper ballots.

So it's harder to hack.

Which sucks for Trump cause Musk can't rig the election for him here.

Unlike in 2024 when magically Trump won all the swing states.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 03:05 PM | Reply

California legalized ballot harvesting and ballot curing. It is legal but justly sows distrust in California's election integrity.
The optics are terrible and so is the process. The people deserve to know the outcome of an election on Election Day,
Not weeks later and it's amazing how the late arriving ballots always deliver the outcome the establishment wants.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger

The only thing that sows distrust in election integrity is the fascist propaganda machine that you parrot.

Your party doesn't win unless you find ways to prevent enough people from voting, which is why methods that make voting easier make you so so angry.

It's not AMAZING that the late arriving mail in ballots tend to be the most liberal. It's what was predicted beforehand, it's what happened in 2020, and why trump declared victory before the full count was in. If it's so AMAZING, then why are the results matching up to the polls so accurately?

#76 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OH, sorry, Not really fair to pin this on "California."
How long should it take for Los Angeles County to count two million ballots?

And, uh, about that appearance of impropriety: Do you allege it's sufficient to change the outcome of the elections?
Or just that something fishy is going on, but you're not sure what, just that it's fishy.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:06 PM | Reply

India has same day results when it take them more than a month just to vote?
#74 | POSTED BY REDIAL

What we have to take into consideration is that poster has no clue about how India functions.

I doubt they could find it on a map.

They're posting something they read on social media because they thought it meant something.

Social media helps eliminate thinking.

Just ask OneTrumper.

99.9% of everything they post comes from social media.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

California legalized ballot harvesting and ballot curing.
#55 | Posted by BellRinger

Ballot harvesting in California, legally referred to as third-party ballot return, is the practice where any person can collect a completed vote-by-mail ballot from an eligible voter and return it to a polling place or registrar's office.

Ballot curing in California is the legal process allowing voters to fix missing or mismatched signatures on their vote-by-mail ballot return envelopes after submission but before election certification.

^
How do these activities give rise to "Maybe it's rigged, maybe it isn't?"

They don't, according to you:
My understanding is the count is not what is driving the controversy. It's that the late counted ballots skewed so heavily for the candidate who conceded on Election Day to move her to second place that the ballots themselves have the appearance of being fraudulent.
#24 | Posted by BellRinger

So what's the relevance of California legalized ballot harvesting and ballot curing?
Nothing. You're just trained to respond that ballot curing and ballot harvesting are "controversial."
You are a prolific fear monger.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

India has same day results when it take them more than a month just to vote?
#74 | POSTED BY REDIAL

What we have to take into consideration is that poster has no clue about how India functions.

Uh, he's exactly right? About India?
Did you bother to look it up?

#80 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 03:16 PM | Reply

The most informative part of this ginned-up "controversy" is Republicans can't say anything they'd change to "fix" it.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What the real issue is, is Los Angeles, I'm pretty sure all of California, does paper ballots.
So it's harder to hack.
#75 | Posted by ClownShack

We should use paper ballots nationwide.
Ask Republicans to explain why they don't think we should use paper ballots for all elections.

Which of these is easier.
Stuffing a physical ballot box with 10,000 fraudulent ballots, each having been filled out 10,000 fraudulent times
Or: Adding 10,000 fraudulent votes, once, to a number in an Excel spreadsheet.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Fun Fact time!
How India mobilised a million polling stations
-India has a million polling locations,
but only
2.23 lakh
Community Sanitary Complexes

Can I get a EWWW!

#83 | Posted by john_savage2 at 2026-06-09 03:22 PM | Reply

The most informative part of this ginned-up "controversy" is Republicans can't say anything they'd change to "fix" it.

Its is ginned up ... because the following is perfectly legal, and no laws are being broken, China laughs at this level of "legality" .....

Step 1: pay homeless people to register to vote
Step 2: send their blank ballots to central nonprofit
Step 3: mark ballots to boost candidates
Step 4: have witness sign instead of voter
Step 5: if late, hand write date instead of postmark
Step 6: officially count these ballots since witness signatures and handwritten dates can't be verified

If you want proof of homeless voting ... its up 130% and there are less homeless .... LOL

But hey Democracy is at stake... LMAO

#84 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 03:25 PM | Reply

I want it to be open and transparent. California's system is neither.
#62 | Posted by BellRinger

What specifically fails to be open and transparent about California's system?

The most informative part of this ginned-up "controversy" is Republicans can't say anything they'd change to "fix" it.
#81 | Posted by snoofy

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#84. Exactly. It's crooked as hell. Pratt had a very low likelihood of winning. That doesn't mean that California's voting process isn't messed up.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 03:33 PM | Reply

#84. Exactly. It's crooked as hell. Pratt had a very low likelihood of winning. That doesn't mean that California's voting process isn't messed up.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger

You sound just like your cult leader. Except you don't have the sense to storm out of the room when asked for proof of your claims.

Your entire cult is built around trusting the word of a con man. And you're too dumb to be embarrassed by that.

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you want proof of homeless voting ... its up 130% and there are less homeless .... LOL

But hey Democracy is at stake... LMAO

#84 | Posted by oneironaut

Hang on - are you suggesting homeless people aren't allowed to vote?
What year do you think it is?

#88 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 03:49 PM | Reply

"You sound just like your cult leader. Except you don't have the sense to storm out of the room when asked for proof of your claims."

Actually I think he just left.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 03:53 PM | Reply

#82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Precisely

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:00 PM | Reply

POSTED BY JOHN_SAVAGE2

Look at you, googling India.

Bravo, Johnny.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Notice I didn't say illegal, or fraudulent, just rigged.
#3 | Posted by oneironaut

So the election was legal, and free of fraud.
Glad we cleared that up!

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

pay homeless people to register to vote

You're right. It's the homeless.

Democrats are always registering them to vote and then voting for them. Right before harvesting their organs.

Even when it was the illegal immigrants I knew it was the homeless!

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

By the way.

Did you know OneTrumper posts on X.com as Kristen Mag, @kristenmag

Cause. I looked up that list he posted, and what do you know, she wrote it.

x.com

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have any of our Trump supporting contributors on this thread posted something they didn't read on social media?

Any of you??

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's amazing how you all prove this article 100% accurate.

None of you have any of the facts.

Just conspiracies fed to you by social media

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#87. Learn how to fuck8ngread. You are so indoctrinated in your cult that you can't comprehend written word. You are programmed. You are exactly what you describe your perceived adversaries as.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 04:14 PM | Reply

Clownshack accusing others of conspiracy mongering is too funny. Tell us all again where AIPAC touched you inappropriately.

#98 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-09 04:15 PM | Reply

#87. Learn how to fuck8ngread. You are so indoctrinated in your cult that you can't comprehend written word. You are programmed. You are exactly what you describe your perceived adversaries as.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger

You are the one who claimed the California voting process was messed up.

You are the one who can't provide any evidence.

That's called a Conspiracy.

#99 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-06-09 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#97 | Posted by BellRinger

You are an idiot. Every thought you type is horse manure.

ESAD ASAP.

#100 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-06-09 04:19 PM | Reply

"It's crooked as hell."

Based on evidence you have, or based on a talking point you decided to regurgitate?

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-06-09 04:34 PM | Reply

- evidence

You may have to spell that for him....

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2026-06-09 04:35 PM | Reply

conspiracy mongering ... AIPAC
#98 | Posted by BellRinger

AIPAC isn't a conspiracy. It's a public operation with a public political agenda called Zionism.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 04:36 PM | Reply

#87. Learn how to fuck8ngread. You are so indoctrinated in your cult that you can't comprehend written word. You are programmed. You are exactly what you describe your perceived adversaries as.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger

You can't deny that republicans are a cult so you call your enemies a cult.

Trump/Putin 101 - accuse your opponent of your own crimes

#104 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 04:36 PM | Reply

I have been contacted twice via text message by parties offering to pick up the ballot I downloaded.

#105 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-09 04:36 PM | Reply

I have been contacted twice via text message by parties offering to pick up the ballot I downloaded.
#105 | Posted by visitor_

That was nice of the Nigerian Prince to offer to do that for you.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 04:37 PM | Reply

Exactly. It's crooked as hell. Pratt had a very low likelihood of winning. That doesn't mean that California's voting process isn't messed up.

#86 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

lol look at this stupid piece of pedo s*^% parroting Dear Leader's exact wording. Probably without even realizing it.

#107 | Posted by jpw at 2026-06-09 04:40 PM | Reply

" the ballot I downloaded."

Two quick questions:

What state allows downloaded ballots?

Was your name and other info pre-printed?

#108 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-06-09 04:41 PM | Reply

Flag:

I have been contacted twice via text message by parties offering to pick up the ballot I downloaded.

#105 | Posted by visitor_

Send it in. If you're so confident that the system is rigged then you won't have to worry about going to jail.

#109 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-06-09 04:46 PM | Reply

Clownshack accusing others of conspiracy mongering is too funny. Tell us all again where AIPAC touched you inappropriately.
#98 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You wrote this and hit publish?

You should be embarrassed.

I'm right, which is why this nonsense was all you could muster.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-06-09 04:54 PM | Reply

the ballot I downloaded.

What's the link? I'll see if I can download one from up here.

#111 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-06-09 04:58 PM | Reply


What's the link? I'll see if I can download one from up here.

#111 | POSTED BY REDIAL

I didn't know this existed .... but seems like its possible to get access to download a ballot print it out .... and send it in your own envelope ...

www.sos.ca.gov

IT would be possible to print to PDF and make all the ballots you wanted I suspect.

#112 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 05:09 PM | Reply


If you're so confident that the system is rigged then you won't have to worry about going to jail.
#109 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Why would you go to jail?

There was a REPUBLICAN dog that voted in CA State elections, no problem. Next election, due to Federal Election rules they caught the dog......

#113 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-06-09 05:12 PM | Reply

Most if not all states provide sample ballots

ballotpedia.org

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-09 05:13 PM | Reply

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