Gun Rights' Group Oppose DOJ's Plan to Ban Transgender Gun Ownership

Saturday, September 06, 2025

The idea of restricting gun rights has long been a red line for conservatives, with many Republican lawmakers and gun rights groups opposing red flag laws and or other policies aimed at keeping guns away from people suffering from mental health issues.

Posted by lee_the_agent at 01:30 PM | 171 COMMENTS | permalink

Several gun rights groups took aim Friday at the Trump administration's reported plans to restrict transgender Americans from owning firearms.[image or embed]
-- Newsweek (@newsweek.com) Sep 5, 2025 at 2:42 PM

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Let's see the Republicans defend this BS.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-09-04 04:50 PM

NRA LOL

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 05:34 PM

Let's see the Republicans defend this BS.
#1 | POSTED BY QCP

Lets see Lumpers argue against this BS.

To be clear, IMO gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25. With exceptions for military service, and an officer endorsement.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 05:34 PM

They're already banned if you're considered "mentally defective" but Oneirnut likely didn't know that.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:37 PM

They're already banned if you're considered "mentally defective" but Oneirnut likely didn't know that.

I knew that. But as usual you miss the point .... the DoJ is going to declare transgenders are "mentally defective".

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 05:42 PM

That should stop about 3 shootings out of thousands a year. LOL

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:49 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.

Good luck with that.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 05:50 PM

"Stupid transgender people!"

ichef.bbci.co.uk

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-04 06:01 PM

When will Donald Trump Ban African American Gun ownership by EO?

Askin' for a Friend.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-04 06:03 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.
#3 | POSTED BY ONECUCK

Why?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 06:10 PM

LOL I've been saying it since before the election.

Trump will be the most meaningfully anti-2A POTUS of our lifetime.

And the dumbs(*&s who make guns a pillar of their identity will cheer because it's people they don't think should have freedom to begin with.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 06:15 PM

Banning one group of people from gun ownership opens the door to banning other groups of people from gun ownership.

Welcome to the slippery slope.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 06:17 PM

I'm guessing this is designed to fail.

In order to bring about the Final Transgender Solution.

The only way we can protect society from a Transgender person who has every right to get a gun is to institutionalize all the Transgenders.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 06:18 PM

gun ownership should be banned for any one underage of 25.
Good luck with that.
#7 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I did state it was my opinion. Do you not understand what IMO means?
Its wild you don't have a for or against argument, but not surprising, you seem upset.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-04 06:42 PM

You try too hard. Invest in better chum, then I might consider beating you up.

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-04 07:59 PM

the DoJ is going to declare transgenders are "mentally defective".
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

The DOJ isn't qualified to make that determination.

But that doesn't matter to the people who want to send transgenders to camps.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 08:01 PM

Jeff continues to be a ridiculous hysterical little ----.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-04 09:07 PM

Why would anyone be against this? It's to protect the children.

Also Zed, don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 09:53 PM

don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

The moment Trump determines he's safer without Americans having guns, the government will come for them.

You Trumpers will be overly eager to comply.

Guaranteed.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 10:01 PM

Clown, he's just going to go after the crazies owning guns. This is literally a win win for everyone. Now if he'd put the crazies in institutions so they can get the help they need. Do you not care about the children?

#20 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 10:53 PM

... crazies owning guns.

That's already prohibited. www.ncsl.org Enforce that instead of signing another invalid EO.

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2025-09-04 11:08 PM

If he put the rwing crazies in institutions, it would prevent 96 percent of these kinds of shootings.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-04 11:22 PM

Uhhh Corky ... Source for your claim.

#23 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 11:26 PM

Men are responsible for most gun-related crimes. Ban men from possessing guns.

#24 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-04 11:32 PM

98 percent are men, the vast majority of which are white nationalists.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-04 11:40 PM

Again source to verify your claim.

#26 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-04 11:56 PM

All this Lewzer Love is making you stupid.

www.google.com

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:03 AM

This doesn't verify your claim, you said "If he put the rwing crazies in institutions, it would prevent 96 percent of these kinds of shootings." You've implied 96% of all mass shootings are perpetrated by right wingers. Again, verify your claim with a source.

#28 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:16 AM

Mass Shootings by Race (1982 - August 2025)
RACE/ETHNICITY NUMBER OF INCIDENTS PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL
White 84 54%
Black 26 17%
Latino 12 8%
Asian 10 6%
Native American 3 2%
Other 5 3%
Unknown 15 10%

Womp Womp.

#29 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:20 AM

As of 2023, the U.S. population is approximately 58% non-Hispanic White, 20% Hispanic, 13% Black, 6% Asian or Pacific Islander, and 3% identifying as other races. What's interesting is per capita Blacks are outshining everyone ...

#30 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:22 AM

"Right-wing extremists: Data from the ADL consistently shows that the vast majority of politically motivated killings in the United States are committed by right-wing extremists.

For instance, the ADL found that from 2014 to 2023, 76% of extremist-related murders were carried out by right-wing extremists.

Other extremist motivations: Over the same period, domestic Islamist extremists accounted for 19% of such murders, while left-wing extremists and other groups were responsible for much smaller percentages."

www.google.com

You must be SO proud, Bluftwaffer!

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:23 AM

Also, I don't think you want me to run the numbers on Trans mass shooters vs their percentage of the general population ... It won't look good.

#32 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:23 AM

Yeah I'm not taking a bogus source from the ADL who has been sued into oblivion for lying as a credible source.

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:24 AM

Also we are talking about mass shootings which is not even remotely the same thing you are trying to back up with a ---- source.

#34 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:25 AM

Also, I don't think you want me to run the numbers on Trans mass shooters

What percentage of trans people are mass shooters?

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 12:32 AM

- a ---- source.

Why yes, yes you are.

AI Overview
Domestic terror attacks and fatalities in the US are most frequently associated with white supremacists and other right-wing extremists, though offenders' profiles and motivations vary. White nationalist ideology often drives the most lethal attacks.

As I said, if those people weren't on the streets being the Trumpers that they are, we wouldn't have much in the way of domestic terror shootings at all.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-05 12:33 AM

Of the mass shooting numbers I listed earlier Redial, at least 4 of them would be Trans shooters. I am not sure if this latest one is factored in. With that said going off the numbers ... If 4 of those are assigned to them that would represent 6.2% of mass shootings would be attributed to Trans Individuals. They presently make up 0.95%. That's a huge difference when looking at numbers by race in this country vs race of mass shooter.

#37 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:43 AM

Minneapolis is 5, so the number goes even higher if you count it.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:43 AM

Bluewaffles thinks black people should have their guns taken away.

WHy else would he post their gun violence stats in this thread? Is he man enough to admit that?

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:47 AM

I'm 100% good with non-crazy law abiding citizens owning guns Alexandrite. I don't care if they're Asian, White, Black, Hispanic, or Middle Eastern. Where I have the problem is people who are mentally ill people owning them. Case in point ... Zed and Legally (neither of these people could legitimately pass a psychological exam with the things they've said here). Back to the math, .95% of the population is committing a number greater than 6.2% of the mass shootings. That's a very big problem and I'm glad our President has the willingness to address it.

#40 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:51 AM

Where's the stats that trans people with guns are any more dangerous than, I dunno, Black people with guns.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:52 AM

The DOJ is not qualified to address who is crazy for starters.

Also, the vast majority of mass shooters are law abiding citizens until they do a mass shooting.

WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION.

#42 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:53 AM

I want trans people to have guns the same as anyone, so they can protect themselves from maniacs like blueweaffles.

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:54 AM

If 4 of those are assigned to them that would represent 6.2% of mass shootings would be attributed to Trans Individuals.

Ok. Google says there are about 2.8 million people in the US identify as trans. If 5 of them are mass shooters, that means about notverymany % of trans people are mass shooters.

1 in 560,000 in fact.

#44 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 12:55 AM

If you're wondering why I'm being an ------- to you, blue...

It's the glee in which you post about sending people you don't agree with to camps. You're a disingenuous little fascist. Earlier today you were cowardly hiding behind the "what about the children?" argument.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 12:57 AM

Very easy Alex, take the guns away from the crazies. I've said this before, Zed has made comments on here alluding to the fact he owns firearms bc he's at the very least needlessly paranoid. Someone such as him should not have access to firearms. Are you okay with the authorities taking his guns away since he by definition poses a threat (based off of previous comments here) and who would you recommend come to take said guns away from him? Local Police? ATF? FBI?

#46 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 12:58 AM

take the guns away from the crazies.

Define crazies. Does it include all trans people....

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

Redial I am saying out of the total number of mass shootings, they represent 6.2% of them. That is all, you can use your same math on total population of any race and get a much smaller percentage of the mass shooter vs race as a population.

#48 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

You haven't answered my question Alex.

#49 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:00 AM

What question?

#50 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:01 AM

Should Zed's firearms be taken away due to the ------- crazy things he has said on this site?

#51 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:02 AM

No. He hasn't threatened anyone. You're more ------- than he is. He doesn't smile at the prospect of jailing or putting the enemies of trump in prison.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:04 AM

Or camps.

#53 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:05 AM

"take the guns away from the crazies."

Repeal the Second Amendment.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:05 AM

It's pretty funny. Had to listen and read the howler monkey right screech about Obama "taking away our guns" for 8 years, while he did no such thing.

One mass shooting happens in Vegas and trump bans bump stocks. Not a peep out of the usual suspects. Now he's talking about blatantly violating the 2nd amendment. No NRA, no one here on the right cares.

I'm starting to think the only thing the right holds dear is winning power.

#55 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM

He and Legally have certainly made threats to public officials on this site. That by definition is someone who is crazy.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM

Should Zed's firearms be taken away due to the ------- crazy things he has said on this site?

No. That pesky 2nd Amendment thing says so.

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 01:09 AM

Remember when Glen Beck used to scream about FEMA camps at the top of his lungs during the Obama years?

Now the same idiots cheer Alligator Alcatraz. Every accusation is a confession of their lack of inner character.

#58 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:09 AM

That by definition is someone who is crazy.

No, it is not.

#59 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 01:10 AM

He and Legally have certainly made threats to public officials on this site. That by definition is someone who is crazy.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Zed? BULL ----. LYD? I have no idea, he's plonked.

Show me a post of Zed's threatening a public official. Better yet, show the FBI.

But you won't.

#60 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-05 01:11 AM

There's no possible way to pull up the archives, trust me I've looked.

#61 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 01:53 AM

There's no possible way to pull up the archives

Ok. That's funny.

#62 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 02:02 AM

Care to point the way Redial? Bc I've checked here and on the archive.org unfortunately that side only snapped certain days.

#63 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 02:05 AM

Site*

#64 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-05 02:06 AM

Care to point the way Redial?

You said there is no possible way. I was just suggesting there is no possible way for you to do it.

I'd imagine that the site administrators or the NSA could do it fairly easily.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 02:13 AM

web.archive.org

#66 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-05 02:39 AM

Let's see. I own an SKS Commando assault rifle. I believe in UFO's, I never bought into WMD's in Iraq, RussiaGate, the Laptop, or any of that silliness. I won't take Aspartame, I'm unvaccinated (the vaxxed will die, the unvaxxed will be hunted), and I think Fluoridation is neither safe or effective (only topically applied fluoride works, drinking it doesn't - you just don't swish it on your teeth for a minute).

But at least I don't think I'm a woman. Or want to be.

The difference is that if you give a man estrogen, it increases aggression, reduces impulse control, and fogs your mind. How can you accurately plan a massacre like that?

We live in an era where we can eat bugs, own nothing, and still be happy thanks to the Elite. Why would anyone need a gun?

#67 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-05 07:33 AM

Banning one group of people from gun ownership opens the door to banning other groups of people from gun ownership.
Welcome to the slippery slope.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

Just like sending ICE against migrants is intended to set the stage for ICE being a generalized paramilitary organization that goes after anyone who displeases Dear Leader.

Gun rights for MAGA morons will never be touched, so, despite their incessant blathering about the sanctity of the 2A, they'll sit idly by while 2A rights for other groups gets eviscerated.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:19 AM

Why would anyone be against this? It's to protect the children.

If it was about protecting the children they'd be taking them from white 20 something year old virgins.

Also Zed, don't be shocked if the government comes for your guns next.

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles

You know what won't shock me? Your indifference or even support of 2A rights being violated so long as it's people you don't like.

Because you're a piece of s*&^.

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:22 AM

#20 | Posted by Bluewaffles

All of which are policies the right was adamantly against...until they weren't against it if Trump said so.

You ---- idiots are such brainless piles of idiocy.

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:23 AM

Yeah I'm not taking a bogus source from the ADL who has been sued into oblivion for lying as a credible source.

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Yeah! Read my Fox News link instead!

Idiot.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:25 AM

#48 | Posted by Bluewaffles

The mass shootings list:

White 84 54%
Black 26 17%
Latino 12 8%
Asian 10 6%
Native American 3 2%
Other 5 3%
Unknown 15 10%

Total listed is 155.

5 trans shooters would account for 3.2%.

Not 6.2%.

You can't even do basic math, but you want people to take your s*&^ opinions seriously?

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 10:28 AM

Sensible gun control we can all agree on. No guns for transbenders. For the children.

#73 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 11:33 AM

"Sensible gun control we can all agree on."

When pigs fly.

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 11:52 AM

Re 73

So much for ..

Thou Shalt Not Infringe!

#75 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 11:59 AM

Guns are the leading cause of death for children.

What percentage of children killed with guns were killed by a transgender with a gun?

And don't forget to count the suicides by transgender children, whose parents are happy their defective kids are dead.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:03 PM

Sensible gun control we can all agree on.

Before this first stab at the 2A by Trump, there was no such thing as "sensible gun control" according to s*&^bags like you. What changed?

#77 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 12:05 PM

What changed?

POSTED BY JPW

Dear Leader has spoken.

#78 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:07 PM

"Sensible Gun Control" is the "Thoughts And Prayers" of the Left.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:10 PM

What an epic troll... Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.

#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:26 PM

Trump has deplorable Trumping MAGAts ready to surrender their arms.

Interesting times we live in.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:32 PM

Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.
#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:33 PM

What an epic troll...

Not really, he's just trying his best to distract from the Epstein files.

Not that pedophile supporters like you care.

The Republican Party is the pro pedophilia party.

No child is too young for Trump to rape!

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:34 PM

what are you fighting for?
#82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Turds is fighting for relevance.

Trump told him he matters.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 12:36 PM

Trump has the loony left fighting for gun rights.

Huh?

Democrats have always been for sensible gun laws.

Democrats overwhelmingly support stricter gun control measures to reduce gun violence, advocating for policies such as universal background checks, banning assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines, and implementing "red flag" laws to keep guns from those deemed dangerous.

...
Now ... Can YOU answer the simple question?

...

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM

And what are you fighting for?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

#86 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:50 PM

Democrats have always been for sensible gun laws.

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

First quantify "sensible"

Secondly, I've never had an issue with keeping guns away from crazy people or people on certain meds.

#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 12:55 PM

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Dear Leader will not be pleased.

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns when he rolled back Obama regulation

In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.

#88 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:55 PM

First quantify "sensible"

Reread post 85

I gave you a sample list you freakin ----.

#89 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:57 PM

And what are you fighting for?
#82 | Posted by snoofy

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.
#86 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So you're saying transgender people are mentally insane.

Who else? How about the gays?

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:06 PM

I've never had an issue with keeping guns away from crazy people or people on certain meds.
#87 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Which crazy people, and which meds?

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:07 PM

A pregnant lesbian black woman in a wheelchair sure as heck ain't gettin' a gun from here on out, that's for dang sure.

#92 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-05 01:15 PM

Sexual perversion and deviancy is a mental illness. LGBTQ no guns for you.

#93 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 01:35 PM

LGBTQ no guns for you.
#93 | Posted by visitor_

There we go!
First they came for the Transgenders.
Then they came for the Gays.

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:39 PM

"deviancy"

Is it deviant or healthy normal for adult men to have sex with thirteen year old runaways?

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:43 PM

Sexual perversion

What's considered "sexual perversion"?

Is adultery? Pedophilia? Sexual assault?

Or are all those okay because Trump engages in them all.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 01:50 PM

Lawrence v Texas was poorly adjudicated.
--JeffJ

It's sooo obvious where this is going.

We can't control guns, we have to institutionalize the Bad People so they can't get guns.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:59 PM

and this is where the left loses the issue

"banning assault-style weapons"

What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.

#98 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-05 02:14 PM

Does anyone know wtf kwrx is going on about?

That idiot gets dumber every time he posts.

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 02:17 PM

We can't control guns, we have to institutionalize the Bad People so they can't get guns.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is a true statement in the USA.

#100 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 02:18 PM

Not gun rights for the mentally insane.

#86 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

So we can add the 2A to the lengthy list of things the right supposedly held dear right up until Trump told them not to.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 02:23 PM

Does anyone know wtf kwrx is going on about?

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 02:17 PM | Reply

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-05 12:49 PM | Reply

and this is where the left loses the issue
"banning assault-style weapons"
What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.

#98 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-05 02:14 PM | Reply

AWBs. A type of law so easily circumvented it's a waste of energy to talk about.

#102 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-05 02:58 PM

and this is where the left loses the issue
"banning assault-style weapons"
What it really means, ban 'scary' looking guns.
#98 | Posted by kwrx25

Fact is:
Uvalde Police were scared of a scary looking gun.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 03:03 PM

No, they were scared of the round it fired.

#104 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 03:54 PM

It's pretty simple the LGBTQs self identify as mentally ill. Let's start with the mentally ill and come back later for the trade unionists only if necessary.

#105 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 04:04 PM

#105 - such a good nazi!

#106 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-05 04:34 PM

I did not see that comment coming from you.

#107 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-05 04:40 PM

Fact is:
Uvalde Police were scared of a scary looking gun.
#103 | Posted by snoofy

No, they were scared of the round it fired.
#104 | Posted by jpw

But why?

Didn't they have guns that fire similar rounds, and more lethal rounds?

Educate me.

#108 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 04:49 PM

AWBs. A type of law so easily circumvented it's a waste of energy to talk about.
#102 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Setting aside any impact of the 1994-2004 AWB:

What is a gun law that isn't easily circumvented, and compatible wit the Second Amendment, and could significantly reduce gun violence?

I don't think there are any as about 200 years of history have shown.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 04:57 PM

Once again, I was right.

Once again, I was prescient on what ------- would do.

I have told you for years that the minute that guns threaten ------- the 2nd Amendment would mean zip.

You did not listen to me.

------- feels threatened by trans people, so POOF, guns are gone.

Wait til he feels threatened by you

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

I am right about most things. Y'all should listen to me.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-05 05:57 PM

You are correct. It won't be a gun control law that meaningfully reduces gun violence.

#111 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-05 05:58 PM

You are correct. It won't be a gun control law that meaningfully reduces gun violence.
#111 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You dodge questions better than American students dodge bullets.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 06:03 PM

I saw what you did there.

Deflect and pivot to a point he never made.

Trump will ban numerous groups from owning firearms until only Crackers and Cops have Guns.

As A Cracker, you have no problem with being the only type allowed to be Armed.

It makes the whole Racist Repression thing So Much Easier.

Where's the next Space Shuttle Outta here?

#113 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-05 06:05 PM

"Trump will ban numerous groups from owning firearms."

He will send them to camps, because gun bans can't withstand the Second Amendment.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 06:07 PM

SCOTUS will find, in their infinite wisdom, that limited Gun Bans on targeted populations is Kosher.

That's a prediction. I fully expect it.

The Camps will also be part of the Crackdown.

They have to disarm millions before it's "Safe".

Funny Enough, most of the people stripped of second amendment rights will be minority groups, immigrants and blue state areas.

They're preparing for War... On anyone not down with MAGA.

This won't end peacefully.

#115 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-05 06:16 PM

Headline should read:

"Trump brings up his favorite distraction, Transgender People."

#116 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-05 06:21 PM

Snoofy wants Trans people to be the only people with access to guns. His gay, path house ass is retarded. And a drug addict.

#117 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-05 07:41 PM

You need better drugs.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 08:25 PM

But why? Didn't they have guns that fire similar rounds, and more lethal rounds?

Because their first priority is not getting shot.

#119 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 08:36 PM

But why?

Didn't they have guns that fire similar rounds, and more lethal rounds?

Educate me.

#108 | Posted by snoofy

He had the initiative. Somebody was going to have to go through that door first without knowing exactly where he was. There was a high chance of taking a bullet if you were first or second in line and only the highest classes of body armor (III and IV) can stop 5.56. Assuming you're hit in the armor, which only covers your chest.

The border patrol team who ended it entered with the lead agent carrying a ballistic shield.

#120 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 11:00 PM

Are there any school shooters that didn't have the initiative?

"There was a high chance of taking a bullet if you were first or second in line"

Isn't that the job?

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 11:48 PM

Isn't that the job?

You'd think so, but it's not.

#122 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-05 11:51 PM

I'm not saying I agree with their lack of action.

Just why being equally armed didn't even the odds.

Taking a bullet is a risk of the job, it's not the job.

#123 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-05 11:52 PM

Taking a bullet is a risk of the job, it's not the job.
#123 | Posted by jpw

Standing around while kids die is the alternative, so you're kinda insane for saying it's okay for the police to let Uvalde happen.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 11:53 PM

You've normalized him violence to the point where it's a thing that the police shouldn't even try to stop.

It's like RFK Jr saying we shouldn't police diseases.

#125 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-05 11:54 PM

it's okay for the police to let Uvalde happen.

I'm guessing by the time the police got organized they assumed the shooter had already killed everyone in the classrooms, so there was no rush. The report on the event didn't paint the police in a good light.

Recent reports also say the school doors were faulty and not secured properly, but locks mean little to someone carrying a Modern Sporting Rifle.

#126 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-06 12:01 AM

The police heard him shooting and didn't engage.

There was one bad guy with a gun on a killing spree, and 182 good guys with a gun loitering in the parking lot on a coffee break.

The Second Amendment is why civilians can easily purchase a weapon that police won't engage without a ballistic shield.

Just like the Founders wanted it.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-06 12:31 AM

"Recent reports also say the school doors were faulty and not secured properly"

Like a locked door is going to stop someone who wants to enter a school and massacre the people inside.

It's a school, not a cockpit.

#128 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-06 12:32 AM

Standing around while kids die is the alternative, so you're kinda insane for saying it's okay for the police to let Uvalde happen.

#124 | Posted by snoofy

Ok, ballwasher.

#129 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-06 12:45 AM

Like a locked door is going to stop someone

Like I said, locks mean little to someone carrying a Modern Sporting Rifle.

#130 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-06 12:55 AM

" Ok, ballwasher.

#129 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-09-06 12:45 AM | FLAG: "

---- you.

#131 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-06 01:10 AM

Just why being equally armed didn't even the odds.
Taking a bullet is a risk of the job, it's not the job.
#123 | Posted by jpw

Oh come on.
A hundred cops vs one guy and you say the one guy has the edge?
Cops being ------- is what evened the odds.

#132 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-06 11:49 AM

How many trannies are on psych drugs? (All of them?)
95% of school shooters are on psych drugs.
Form 4473 explicitly asks are you on psych drugs.
People on psych drugs should not have guns, it's settled.

#133 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-06 07:25 PM

Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-06 07:25 PM | Reply

Trump didn't think it was a big deal his first time as president. Why should it matter now??

#134 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-06 07:28 PM

"95% of school shooters are on psych drugs."

100% of school shooters use guns.

#135 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-06 07:50 PM

"Form 4473 explicitly asks are you on psych drugs."

Narrator: Form 4473 does not in fact ask about psych drugs.

#136 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-06 07:59 PM

Hm I guess it doesn't. Probably should.

French government overwhelmed by school knife attacks

#137 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-07 06:06 AM

Germany: Teacher injured in Essen school stabbing

On 29 July 2024, a mass stabbing targeting young girls occurred at the Hart Space, a dance studio in the Meols Cop area of Southport, Merseyside, United Kingdom. Seventeen-year-old Axel Rudakubana killed three children and injured ten others at a Taylor Swift"themed yoga and dance workshop attended by 26 children.

Knife crime: 'There is a war going on in the UK'

tbh these attacks are not a knife problem per se, but an immigrant problem.
still, make everyone eat with plastic spoons in UK but then they stab with screwdrivers.
BAN all pointy objects.

#138 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-07 06:11 AM

BAN all pointy objects.

#138 | Posted by easy_meat

Well, then...

Buh-Bye.

#139 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-07 08:55 AM

"tbh these attacks are not a knife problem per se, but an immigrant problem."

This nation is 99% immigrants, however it you'd like to self-deport nobody is going to stop you. Especially not the natives.

#140 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 09:11 AM

French government overwhelmed by school knife attacks
#137 | Posted by easy_meat

Civilized people are horrified by school violence.

Republicans see it as a sales opportunity.

#141 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 09:19 AM

How many trannies are on psych drugs? (All of them?)

My son isn't on any psych drugs.
His best friend in HS also trans wasn't
a third trans person in his HS also wasn't

So pretty far from all of them I would say since my personal experience is none of them. I'm sure my personal experience is not fully representative but still if I know 3 trans people not on psych drugs that already eliminates "all of them" as a possibility.

#142 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-09-07 09:20 AM

"mentally defective" is a rwem straight out of Nazi Germany but, iy does see more Reptblicans are tending towaeds full Naai identification.

#143 | Posted by danni at 2025-09-07 10:55 AM

FAFO clowns.

Oh well... it has to start somewhere with someone.

I love the idea of eroding "gun freedoms".

#144 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-07 11:41 AM

Funny clown... everyone but you knew what I was talking about. Maybe its you who's getting dumber, like that's ------- possible.

#145 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-07 03:17 PM

#142 | Posted by TaoWarrior

it's great that your 'son'(ftm?) isn't on the drugs, but all of the subset of trannie+shooter is on them, per reportage. Maybe you can find an exception to this statement as well, but the fact will remain, these drugs carry behavior warnings on the label and sure enough we're seeing some pretty severe behavior issues with the people that use them.
The point is, the tool used is secondary to the user. If we can't fix the people they will simply select another tool- knife, screwdriver, car, pointy stick, etc.

Antidepressant prescribing in transgender and nonbinary individuals diagnosed with gender dysphoria and mood or anxiety disorders
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
(2023 article, the numbers may be different today)

Antidepressant prescribing increases by 35% in six years
pharmaceutical-journal.com
(2022 article, I'm sure these numbers are increased today)

-While interestingly,
Antidepressants Work Better Than Sugar Pills Only 15 Percent of the Time
www.newsweek.com

#146 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-07 03:37 PM

tldr: psych drugs kill

next: suicide rates for trans/psychdrug victims.

#147 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-07 03:42 PM

Daddysfist, why is your --------- party chock full of child rapists?

docs.google.com

#148 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-07 03:47 PM

Form 4473 explicitly asks are you on psych drugs.
People on psych drugs should not have guns, it's settled.

#133 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-06 07:25 PM | Reply

Does it ask if your kids are on psych drugs?

#149 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-07 03:50 PM

"tldr: psych drugs kill"

guns kill more.
Guns kill more when functioning as intended, not as an unfortunate side-effect.

#150 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 06:00 PM

"The point is, the tool used is secondary to the user."

Is it?

What's the intended use of the tool we call a gun?

#151 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 06:06 PM

"The point is, the tool used is secondary to the user."

What difference is that supposed to make?

Nobody's made a point in opposition to the fact that the tool needs to be used in order to do something.

Tell us again, what is the use of a gun? What is the result when that tool is used as intended?

#152 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 06:09 PM

Form 4473 explicitly asks are you on psych drugs.
People on psych drugs should not have guns, it's settled.

#133 | Posted by easy_meat

No, it does not.

Never thought I'd see the 2A getting discarded so easily by your tool jobs.

There really is nothing sacred to you.

#153 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-07 11:34 PM

Meanwhile, marijuana users like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and fifty million other people are permitted to bear arms, Form 4473 notwithstanding.

But we just don't talk about that.

Because there is no effective means of gun control while the Second Amendment stands.

#154 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 11:45 PM

Meanwhile, marijuana users like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and fifty million other people are permitted to bear arms, Form 4473 notwithstanding.

But we just don't talk about that.

Because there is no effective means of gun control while the Second Amendment stands.

#155 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 11:47 PM

Meanwhile, marijuana users like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and fifty million other people are permitted to bear arms, Form 4473 notwithstanding.

#154 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-07 11:45 PM | Reply

All drug users can buy guns if they don't have priors or court adjudication.

but get this.. Texas weed smokers? Welcome to the loophole. THC-A. Legally it's not marijuana and pre-rolls are sold in half the gas stations in the state.

Otherwise it's 1 year from when your medical MJ card expires, or is given up if it doesn't expire, per FBI NICS guidance in 2019. That's the only criteria available to evaluate the weed question on Form 4473.

#156 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-08 09:07 AM

All drug users can buy guns if they don't have priors or court adjudication.

#156 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Huh. So tell me what Republicans charged Hunter Biden with?

Because what I heard was that he was charged with lying on a federal gun form to buy a gun about whether he was a "drug user". No priors. No court adjudication.

Am I wrong? Or are you?

Does that mean that you disagree with the charges against Hunter Biden? That you agree it was lawfare?

#157 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-09-08 10:45 AM

#157 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-09-08 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

When you're smoking crack and buying your gun, don't talk about it in your book later. That's called Self-Snitching.

#158 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-08 11:00 AM

Also, don't do cocaine and play with your gun. Traces end up on the holster.

Also, don't leave your gun and crack out, together, for your soon to be ex to find.

If you do all 3, and you're the kid of a democrat, you might just become a victim of Republican lawfare.

You really, really have to go out of your way to serve yourself up to them.

#159 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-08 11:11 AM

"All drug users can buy guns if they don't have priors or court adjudication."

You can still buy a gun if you answer Yes on the illegal drug use question?

Seriously? Then why ask?

#160 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-08 11:35 AM

No they'll turn you down. You just lie. Unless you have priors it's not an issue. For it to be you have to self-snitch Hunter style.

#161 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-08 12:15 PM

I have heard people have tried to use their Medical MJ cards as ID to buy guns before.

They get declined.

#162 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-08 12:15 PM

"You just lie."

But you're under oath.

#163 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-08 12:16 PM

When you're smoking crack and buying your gun, don't talk about it in your book later. That's called Self-Snitching.

#158 | Posted by sitzkrieg

He was "self-snitching"... on something that was legal?

Or are you admitting that it IS illegal to buy a gun when you are a "drug user", you are just not man enough to come out and say that you were wrong.

And you also seem to be admitting it was lawfare, but then saying that you support lawfare? That he was asking for it? That he shouldn't dress that way (or act that way) if he didn't want Republicans to rape him?

If you want to be treated with respect you really need to act in a way to actually deserve it. You were called out on being blatantly wrong, and instead of coming out and admitting it like a person of integrity you deflect from it and then like a true Trumper double down by defending lawfare as well.

But, you are a conservative. It is the level of ethics and moral fiber I have learned to expect from people like you. Which is abundantly demonstrated by the ethics and moral fiber of the person that you decided to choose to represent you as President.

#164 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-09-08 12:24 PM

"You just lie."

But you're under oath.

#163 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No worries. He's a Republican. He won't feel a thing.

#165 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-08 12:25 PM

It's a cultural thing.
He's got that Hot Latin Blood.
Gay Panic is a valid murder defense for his people.

#166 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-08 12:27 PM

Hunter gets caught, therefore sitz is republican.

You clowns are why we lose.

#167 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-09 01:09 PM

You're pretending to be a Democrat again?

#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-09 01:17 PM

You clowns are why we lose.

POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

How are we losing?

Dear Leader is in charge now. America is mightier and stronger than ever before. We have troops in the streets. We are safer than ever! No one will dare attack us now! Why would they bother? We are doing a perfectly fine job of attacking ourselves.

Nobody can afford steak anyone but at least America is finally Great Again!

#169 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-09 01:18 PM

If ---------- is a Democrat, so is Stephen Miller.

#170 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-09 01:21 PM

Perhaps I'm being unfair to Sitzkrieg.
Sitzkrieg, you're saying it's not lying under oath when you're high on unlawful drugs and you answer "No" to this question?
If that's the case, what in the world was Hunter Biden being prosecuted for?

ATF Form 4473:
f. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

#171 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-09 01:32 PM

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