Prosecutors in Utah appear to be preparing to argue that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah last week because he disagreed with Kirk's anti-trans rhetoric.
What we can learn about Charlie Kirk suspect Tyler Robinson from his charging document
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OpEd - PERSPECTIVE: The Real Threat to Democracy Isn't One Act of Violence. It's Our Reaction
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... The assassination of Charlie Kirk is a jarring, deeply painful moment for the country"no matter where you fall on the political spectrum. Tragedy invites emotion. That's human.
But history warns us: the greater threat to our democracy often isn't the act of one individual -- it's how the rest of us respond.
"If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher."
-- Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln knew that America's undoing wouldn't come at the hands of a foreign army -- it would come from within. From division. From fury masquerading as justice. From mobs who believe their cause is righteous enough to burn the rules down.
"There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law."
-- Lincoln again
In the days of Lincoln, a mob meant fire in the streets.
Today, it can mean fire online"viral outrage that moves faster than facts, punishes with no due process, and multiplies the worst instincts of the crowd.
The digital mob doesn't need torches. A trending hashtag can destroy reputations, fuel conspiracy theories, or incite real-world violence in a matter of hours.
In many ways, it's more dangerous than a mob in the square"because it feels bloodless, distant, and justified.
The Founders saw this coming in their own way.
"Liberty is to faction what air is to fire ... "
-- James Madison, Federalist No. 10
They knew that freedom would naturally give rise to conflict"and that's not a flaw, it's the design. But when factionalism is fed by unchecked emotion and echo chambers, it turns combustible. The purpose of our Constitution was to contain those flames"not fan them.
Even George Washington, in his Farewell Address, warned that the endless back-and-forth domination of opposing factions could rot a republic from the inside. He called it what it was: a "frightful despotism."
This is not a moment for escalation, for vengeance, or for gleeful tribal score-settling.
That's not justice. That's collapse. ...
Suspected Charlie Kirk shooter Tyler Robinson used Trump's name as a pseudonym on Valve Corp.'s Steam video-game platform, a fact that's become part of a profile US law enforcement is building on the alleged assailant
Wow, that site sounds like a cesspool hate and violence:
Senator Urges Valve to Address Extremist, Hateful' Content on Steamwww.pcmag.com
Updated November 17, 2024
Sen. Mark Warner says lax enforcement of rules by social media platforms leads to toxic social environments that elevate harassment and abuse.'
Senator Mark Warner has urged leadership at Valve to respond to allegations that 1.8 million pieces of extremist or hateful content have been identified on gaming platform Steam.
In a recent report, the ADL's Center on Extremism (COE) claims to have identified 1.5 million unique users and over 73,000 groups who used at least one piece of potentially extremist or hateful content.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), an organization founded to combat antisemitism and other forms of discrimination, claims it included more than 458 million profiles, 152 million profile and group avatar images, and 610 million comments in its dataset.
Pepe the Frog and swastikas are allegedly the most common extremist symbols spreading on the platform, accounting for 54.6% and 9.1% of the detected symbols, respectively.
The ADL claims it also identified 15,000 public accounts using symbols from ISIS, Hezbollah, and Hamas in their profile pics. The group also claims to have identified "hundreds of accounts" using images of terrorist attackers like Anders Breivik, who killed 69 people in an attack on a summer camp in Norway in 2011.
The organization also highlighted cases of users posting extremism-linked content on Steam before committing attacks of real-life violence, such as an 18-year-old white supremacist who attacked a cafe in Turkey in August. In addition, it found 18,352 groups that had potentially extremist or hateful keywords on their group profiles, such as "shekel" and "white power."
"It cute you three are doing the chinese fire-drill about a forum I told you about the afternoon of the assassination 8 days ago."
I remember asking you for a link:
"the Feds are scraping the Discord network of Transgenders servers in UVU area. Many of them posted days before about something happening, with a "grin".
#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-13 03:54 PM
Link?
#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday
drudge.com
I'm still waiting for it.
BTW, what Trump was really mad about is what Kimmel said about him:
This is what Kimmel said:www.yahoo.com
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
He then showed a clip of a reporter asking Trump how he was holding up in the wake of Kirk's death.
"I think very good," Trump replied. "And by the way, right there where you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's gonna be a beauty."
"Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief: construction," Kimmel said. "Demolition, construction. This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a 4-year-old mourns a goldfish."
Cruz quotes/video at links:
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I didn't have agreeing with Ted Cruz on my bingo card.
"Ted Cruz says FCC chairman Brendan Carr sounded more like an organized crime boss than a federal regulator when he threatened to revoke ABC's licenses"
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Ron Filipkowski
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When you've lost Ted ------- Cruz
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The Tennessee Holler
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BREAKING: Ted Cruz gets something right
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129,000 viewers?
#107 | Posted by oneironaut
Even according to Fox, Kimmel averaged 1.6 million nightly viewers for 2025.
But your continued lie is noted.
" It was reported that he planned on doubling down the next night."
Link?
#116 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY
" Jimmy Kimmel was planning second Charlie Kirk monologue when Disney axed show"
www.yahoo.com
Ignore your lying eyes and ears folks and just listen to lefties describe what Kimmel said.
#119 | Posted by BellRinger
You are following the RW spin on his comments and on what he planned to say the next night:
Kimmel "was planning to say that his words were being purposefully twisted by some members of the Make America Great Again movement," the Journal reported.www.yahoo.com
Kimmel had planned to address the controversy in his Wednesday monologue, according to The Wall Street Journal. But Disney Entertainment co-Chair Dana Walden, a top Kimmel ally, believed his planned remarks "could make the situation worse."
Kimmel was going to clarify his original comment by explaining how what he said/meant is not what the RW was saying he said/meant. If you call that doubling down, then I guess he was going to bur not in the way you are stating. Is the RW interpreting his comments, the way you do. Yep. Is that the only way to interpret them? Nope. Is the way you are interprting his comments, the way he intended them, again, ho, accoringing to Kimmel:
Jimmy Kimmel Did Not Say Exactly What You Think He Saidwww.hollywoodreporter.com
Jimmy Kimmel's comment about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect was a mess, and a miss, which gets less clear the more you look at it.
The overwhelming read on this has been: Jimmy Kimmel said, or at least strongly suggested, that Robinson was MAGA. That's been the contention of countless conservatives and plenty of not-so-conservatives. And the facts about Robinson released by authorities so far suggest the suspect was not, in fact, MAGA (according to The New York Times, his mother told prosecutors that her son had recently shifted toward the political left and had become "more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," among other details about the suspect).
But let's take a close look at this section: " ... .the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them ... ."
As part of a sentence, this is so blurry that your eyes cross trying to get it. Kimmel doesn't actually say "this kid" was "one of them." You could read it a different way: Robinson wasn't MAGA, and therefore MAGA is out there trying to characterize him as something else. Or even: Who knows if Robinson was or wasn't MAGA, either way MAGA is trying to score points based on his politics.
Kimmel himself would seem to be of this opinion. In Hollywood Reporters latest story detailing how the suspension went down behind the scenes, Kimmel is said to have been "defending what he said [as] being grossly mischaracterized by a certain group of people."
That said, it's also reasonable to read the comment the way most are taking it. The snarky tone. The use of "desperately." Kimmel's well-established anti-MAGA stance. The debate around the killer's motives, which have seen others on the left attempt to insist he's a conservative. All this context make it natural to assume Kimmel simply meant, "Hey, we all know this kid is MAGA and now MAGA is out there trying to convince everyone he isn't." That was, admittedly, the whole vibe (and was how I took it). Yet its clunky wording make this line into a Rorschach test the more you look at it. There is some element of presumption--a bit of connective tissue formed in the mind of the reader--which converts it from the exact words he said into the inflammatory conclusion that has been widely reached.
-But he isn't a reporter.
I wonder if that was a factor. It makes it harder to accuse the FCC(Trump) of going after the press.
#149 | Posted by eberly
Did you see what Trump said to ABC reporter Jon Karl over the weekend?:
President Donald Trump lashed out at ABC News Jonathan Karl on Tuesday, after the network correspondent asked him about Attorney General Pam Bondis vow to go after those who engage in "hate speech" following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.deadline.com
"A lot of your allies say that hate speech is free speech," Karl said to Trump.
"She'll probably go after people like you, because you treat me so unfairly," Trump replied. "You have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they will come after ABC. ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech. Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech, so maybe they will have to go after you."
Trump wants all news networks to be like Fox News, but even they don't get a total pass from him. For example, he wants them to fire their pollster because he doesn't like the results of their polls:
President Donald Trump told Fox News on Thursday that it has the "worst" polling after hearing about lackluster approval numbers.www.yahoo.com
In an interview with Fox News' Martha MacCallum on "The Story," Trump lashed out at the anchor for reporting on poor polling numbers on the economy. She cited a recent poll from Fox News, which showed that 52% of voters said the economy is worse under Trump's administration.
MacCallum asked Trump when Americans are going to see better numbers on the economy before he blasted Fox News.
"Well, when the factories start opening. I mean, right now we're building them," Trump responded. "And you know, Fox polling, I have to tell you, I've told you before, it's the worst polling I've ever had."
"I mean, during the election, they had me winning by a little bit, not by a by a massive amount, and Fox polling, I've told Rupert Murdoch, go get yourself a new pollster, because he stinks. And this is for years now," he added.
Trump is out of control. He wants everyone in our society to bow down to him, to say only good things about him, to never question or challenge him on anything. No checks and balances are allowed. We have a crazy, out of control narcissist running our country.
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