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Wednesday, April 23, 2025

Women could be paid "baby bonuses" of $5,000 as part of plans by the Trump administration to drive up birth rates.

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Baby bonus of $5000 & menstrual cycle classes are among ideas Trump considers as he aims to boost US birthrate.

But these ideas dont address the real problems-kids cost a lot. $5000 doesn't begin to cover child care, housing costs, all the needs of each child

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" Mia Farrow (@miafarrow.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 10:36 AM

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Five thousand whole dollars to have a baby! What a bargain!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-22 07:44 PM | Reply

Yeah, but see it's a $10K Penalty for non-white kids.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-04-22 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So we're moving onto publicly funded prostitution

Yay

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-22 07:54 PM | Reply

Just wait, won't be long until Black women are attacked for having children.

"They're taking advantage of the system!"

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-22 08:03 PM | Reply

"Also discussed was funding for programmes to educate women on their menstrual cycles so they can better understand when they are ovulating."

That is so the government can track and enforce their reproductive choices on women.

Why, ask the Republicans.

Because when was your last period determines when you can have an abortion, or when the State makes the choice that you cannot have an abortion.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-22 08:46 PM | Reply

Fascism and the survival of the superior white race are interlocking. Il Duce also provided incentives for Italian mothers to have as much children as possible. Seven was the target, if I recall correctly.

"You will not replace us!"

Link:

paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-23 03:13 AM | Reply

"The team responsible for managing US national guidance on safe and effective use of contraception has been dismissed, causing concern that an essential public health resource could be lost. The eight person team responsible for managing the guidance was dismissed on 1 April along with another 2,400 employees in the Women's Health and Fertility Branch of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Division of Reproductive Health.'

Link:

www.bmj.com

#7 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-23 04:15 AM | Reply

"For a long time we were going away from Gilead and then we turned around and started going back towards Gilead ... ."
Margaret Atwood, 2019

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-04-23 05:55 AM | Reply

#8: Hi Doc: Appropriate quotation. Our nightmare began when we lost Roe vs Wade and now it's coalescing splendidly. The publicly-available Project 2025 should have been a five-alarm fire for us in 2024. Too bad the Democrats didn't stand up to Benjamin Netanyahu during the Nakba. We might not have lost the 6,265,888 votes we had in 2020. 2024 was just like 1968 when Hubert Humphrey lost for supporting the Saigon regime and the Vietnam War. Now we have to live with the stench of this faux Judeo-Christian Gileadean dystopia and Murder-Death-Kill for at least four years: www.zdf.de

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-23 07:22 AM | Reply

So the US will pay women to be breeders.

That's a good look.

Nevermind that daycare for one child is more than $5000 per year let alone the cost of raising a child to 18 is somewhere around $400,000. What a deal.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-04-23 07:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#9
Point for point, on point.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-04-23 08:18 AM | Reply

"Blood and soil."

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 09:00 AM | Reply

Lots of countries give incentives to have more kids. Think of it this way Snoopy Trump will give your daughter $5000 to swallow instead of spit.

#13 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-04-23 02:57 PM | Reply

Lots of countries give incentives to have more kids.

Is that why republicans keep eliminating programs for children and single parents and poor families?

But hey! $5,000 dollars. That's something.

Until it's seen as going to too many poor minorities.

Then it will be eliminated as well.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-23 03:01 PM | Reply

"Lots of countries give incentives to have more kids."

Do other countries do it to offset domestic population reductions from mass deportations, and legal immigration reductions from mass deportations?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 03:02 PM | Reply

"The average cost of raising a child in the US from birth to age 18 is estimated to be around $310,605 for a middle-income family, according to a study by the Brookings Institution."

www.brookings.edu

www.investopedia.com

abcnews.go.com

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-23 03:08 PM | Reply

It's way more than $300k, it's more like $2M.

Unless you're a poor.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 03:09 PM | Reply

Investopedia sheds some light on that number:

"spend $310,605 to raise a child born in 2015 (latest information)"

So. The figure comes prior to Trump destroying our economy. Twice.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-23 03:15 PM | Reply


Do other countries do it to offset domestic population reductions from mass deportations, and legal immigration reductions from mass deportations?

There's been no mass deportation. You're in a TDS narrative bubble if you think mass deportation is happening more than what Biden did.
www.nbcnews.com

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-23 03:37 PM | Reply

This is patently illegal since men can't also get the $5,000.

Republicans will surely stop by any moment to Mansplain how this cockamamie proposal turns Men into Second Class Citizens.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 04:14 PM | Reply

I remember when Boaz was calling black women welfare queens and insisting they were only having kids to collect money from the government.

Insisting that's how democrats kept black people on their plantation.

Yet, here we are, with republicans offering checks for childbirth.

And make no mistake. It's only for childbirth. Beyond that. They couldn't care any less what happens to the child or the family.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-23 04:20 PM | Reply

The "useless eaters" already receive free medical care for their pregnancy, in addition they get refundable tax credits, free housing vouchers, free school meals even when school is out, and food stamps, contingent on and proportional to, the number of fatherless larval future gang member "useless eater" offspring they disgorge.

People that pay their own way, 5K isn't a big deal.

#22 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 04:30 PM | Reply

" People that pay their own way, 5K isn't a big deal."

Thanks for admitting this cockamamie plan will end up creating more of the people you don't want around.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 04:32 PM | Reply

...rereading ^ makes me sound sort of biased. I feel the need to admit that there are exceptions, and some will eventually mature into productive citizens, perhaps as many as one per busload. Thanks to DEI.

#24 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 04:33 PM | Reply

" rereading ^ makes me sound sort of biased."

NS, Sherlock.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 04:40 PM | Reply

"The "useless eaters""

Dr. Phil lived out of his car.
Suze Orman lived out of her van.
JK Rowling was homeless at one point.
Halle Berry lived in a homeless shelter.
James Cameron lived out of his car.
Jim Carrey lived in a VW van.
Chris Pratt lived in a van.
Shania Twain lived in a homeless shelter with family.
Daniel Craig used to sleep in the park in London.
Dolly Parton used to make a meal out of swiped ketchup packets.

You would've had us give up on them all.

God forbid you are ever down on your luck, and expecting empathy.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 04:50 PM | Reply

#26
"I only dreamt I lived in a drum."

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 04:53 PM | Reply

" rereading ^ makes me sound sort of biased."

Not to worry: it's already painfully obvious. Especially this part:

" ... some will eventually mature into productive citizens, perhaps as many as one per busload."

That's when FULL-ON RACIST became obvious.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Think of it this way Snoopy Trump will give your daughter $5000 to swallow instead of spit.
#13 | Posted by fortfisher

The extent of MAGAt sex education knowledge in a nutshell.

#29 | Posted by censored at 2025-04-23 05:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Suze Orman lived out of her van.
Jim Carrey lived in a VW van.
Chris Pratt lived in a van.

Barrack Obama got high in a van.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-23 05:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#26 | Posted by Danforth

-For practical purposes, these still have limited utility. Winning the entertainment complex lobby doesn't help build a productive society. They're mostly about the narcissism and child-star rape.

#31 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 08:48 PM | Reply

#26 | Posted by Danforth

Furthermore, where's all dem rap stars on your cinderella list? Huh?

you must be rayciss, everybody on your list is White.

#32 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 08:57 PM | Reply

"Winning the entertainment complex lobby doesn't help build a productive society."

What a riot.

The "entertainment complex" is one of the dwindling areas where America still leads the world.

FFS, don't let Trump near it!

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 08:59 PM | Reply

"For practical purposes, these still have limited utility."

They roasted your theory. Utility enough for me.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 09:01 PM | Reply

"you must be rayciss"

Riiiiiiiiiight.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-23 09:03 PM | Reply

you must be rayciss, everybody on your list is White.

#32 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 08:57 PM | Reply

Halle Berry is white?

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-23 09:04 PM | Reply

"Winning the entertainment complex lobby doesn't help build a productive society."

Can you define how "productive society" is measured, because Hollywood employs roughly 2.5 million people and pays $188 billion in wages. www.zippia.com

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 09:04 PM | Reply

you must be rayciss, everybody on your list is White.
#32 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 08:57 PM | Reply

Halle Berry is white?
#36 | Posted by Alexandrite

I call upon Boaz, Decider of Kalama's Whiteness:
Can we get a ruling on Halle Berry?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 09:09 PM | Reply

He's studying her feet as we type.

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-04-23 09:11 PM | Reply

That reminds me of the joke about why do Blacks have light palms and light soles of their feet.

My friend's dad told us that joke in junior high. He was a field supervisor for the phone company.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-23 09:12 PM | Reply

That's when FULL-ON RACIST became obvious.

#28 | Posted by Dan

-Actually, Dan, in my area there are more whites on benefits than blacks.

Visitors would note "They aren't many blacks here, are they?"
I would reply, "We don't need them, we have tweakers instead"

#41 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 09:23 PM | Reply

@#41

Huh?

Can your current alias please explain its comment more rationally?

thanks.

#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-23 09:31 PM | Reply


Halle Berry is white?
#36 | Posted by Alexandrite

If you're using the one drop rule, then all you Europeans are Africans!!

Can you define how "productive society" is measured, because Hollywood employs roughly 2.5 million people and pays $188 billion in wages.

According to Ben Afflack :) Hollywood is collapsing, so idk what you're talking about.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-04-23 09:54 PM | Reply

Can you define how "productive society" is measured, because Hollywood employs roughly 2.5 million people and pays $188 billion in wages.

-All for crappy movies and child rapists gettin rich.
I'd rather employs roughly 2.5 million people fixing infrastructure (NOT meaning woke boondoggles)

#44 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 10:11 PM | Reply

#43 | Posted by oneironaut
If you're using the one drop rule, then all you Europeans are Africans!!

likewise, all American Blacks are White-
Among those who identified as black: The average proportion of white ancestry was 18%, the equivalent of having 22 white ancestors among their 128 5great-grandparents. About 10% have more than 50% white ancestry.

BTW I'm not a European, I'm an American MUTT

#45 | Posted by itchyp at 2025-04-23 10:18 PM | Reply

Why do some, I'll say, ~clusters~ of aliases, seem to appear around the same time?



#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-23 10:19 PM | Reply

...seem to appear around the same time?

Shift change.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-23 10:21 PM | Reply

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