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With the tax credits set to expire at the end of this year, many policyholders are learning the ACA, commonly referred to as Obamacare, will no longer be affordable unless Congress intervenes.

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Thyroid cancer patient Astrid Storey deserves to die because she made Bad Life Choices. For example, she moved here from Panama.
--Republicans

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-07 08:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GOP doesn't care.

They are starving children and families to force the democrats into taking away health insurance from the middle class.

This is all out of Project 2025 which ALL OF THEM LIED WHEN THEY SAID THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Then they downplay the ass kicking they got on Tuesday. From local elections to school boards to state elections to governorships to mayoral races trumpism became toxic.

Every single member of Klanned Karenhood running for school boards in PA lost.

The 10 month reign of fascism has awoken the voters.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-11-07 10:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Every single member of Klanned Karenhood running for school boards in PA lost."

Nicely done! Very creative!

I'm stealing that one.

This is why I still come here.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-07 11:08 AM | Reply

"Assault a law enforcement officer, and you'll be prosecuted," Pirro (and Bondi) said. What they neglected to mention is that after the prosecution, if the president decides he approves of the motivation of those who committed the assault, they'll be shielded from any consequences for their actions.

Like the J6 insurrectionists.

They assaulted the Capitol police with pepper spray flagpoles and shields and anything they could scrounge up.

Trumpy pardoned them.

A citizen throws a sandwich at Trumpy's ICEholes and Trumpy's minions get unhinged and try (unsuccessfully) to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law and (successfully) destroy his livelihood(so he can no longer afford to fight back) .

Welcome to Trumplandia and the Great FAFO.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-07 11:21 AM | Reply

My only question is when does Trump declare Marshall Law?

Because it's not going to stay peaceful for long.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-07 12:11 PM | Reply


Thyroid cancer patient Astrid Storey deserves to die because she made Bad Life Choices. For example, she moved here from Panama.
--Republicans

#1 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If only ObamaCare could have kept prices down for people.

Bummer really, especially for Astrid.

But you know who made alot of money?

Thanks ObamaCare!

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:39 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

What are you talking about here?

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:40 PM | Reply


My only question is when does Trump declare Marshall Law?

Because it's not going to stay peaceful for long.

#5 | POSTED BY CORKY

I have been saying this Corky, but only now you guys listen. Inflation isn't "transitory" like Snoofy said 3-4years ago.

Its real and will continue until the government stops printing money, which means it has to stop spending. What you are asking is for the country to keep spending, and thus creating more DEBT. In the next thread you'll complain about Trumps $38Trillion in debt.

Americans have no idea what they are advocating, I suspect they are just economically illiterate given the ability to print USD has hidden them from reality..

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:43 PM | Reply

#8

drudge.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-07 04:53 PM | Reply

ACA is a failure.

It requires more and more money to prop it up.

Time for a change.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Perhaps if dems had fixed it instead of propping it up, we wouldn't be in the situation we are today.

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:15 AM | Reply

#10 If ACA is a failure, then why are tens of millions of American citizens dependent upon it for their health?

#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

1) LOL. Trump and the GOP have no interest in fixing it.

2) Letting it collapse means the loss of lives.

3) Why not agree to the year extension and let both Parties work on fixing it? Because...

4) Trump and the GOP have no interest in providing health care.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 Let the Trump fix it?

In 2020 he told Chris Wallace that a full and complete health care plan will be released in "2 weeks"

That was 5+ years ago.

How many more "2 weeks" must Americans endure?

#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Posted by BillJohnson

You fascists have this attitude towards human suffering: you're all for it.

Go ahead and protest that statement. But the next time an issue of want or poverty comes up...

You'll justify the want and poverty.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Zed,

If the GOP fails to deliver, the next election dems will likely control Congress and the White House.

That would be their chance.

That's about the best they can hope for if Trump fails.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:27 AM | Reply

#15 The GOPyers have had OVER A DECADE to produce an alternative to the ACA.

Not a single plan, or even a concept of a plan, has ever been introduced by them that entire time.

I'd say THAT counts as failure to deliver.

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at

People can't buy groceries with a vote they can make in another year or two.

#17 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-08 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

... or health insurance.

#18 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-08 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up."

Everyone who has ever worked on this problem in good faith has concluded a mandate is the only way it can survive.

Then Republicans eliminated the mandate.

This is TRUMPCARE.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#19 Newsworthy

#20 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:35 AM | Reply

ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up.
#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Where do you think that money ends up?
A question Republicans can't answer.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 11:38 AM | Reply

Zed,

If dems fail to fix health care for all (again), we'll be right back here again.

Frankly, I think dems already squandered their opportunity and the GOP deserves a chance to do something.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:39 AM | Reply


Where do you think that money ends up?
A question Republicans can't answer.

#21 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Right where the Democrats and their lobbyist intended.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-08 11:41 AM | Reply

#22 The GOPyers have had OVER A DECADE to produce an alternative to the ACA.

They are the ones who have squandered their opportunity

Why are you defending a bunch of failures who cannot do the basic job of governance?

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:15 AM | Reply

Trump isn't going to fix anything. He's destroying this country and you cretins are just going along with it. God I often questioned how Jim Jones got so many people to follow him. BillJohnson Thank You for educating me on how that happened. You are a cultist through and through.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the GOP deserves a chance to do something.
#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

The GOP is doing their thing right now.
The GOP is removing health care from tens of millions of Americans.
That's the GOP plan.
Own it.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 11:44 AM | Reply

If the GOP fails to deliver, the next election dems will likely control Congress and the White House.

They have a plan! No worries. It will be ready anytime now!

Anytime!

"We're going to produce phenomenal health care. And we already have the concept of the plan. And it'll be much better health care," Trump told George Stephanopoulos.

"Yeah, we'll be announcing that in two months, maybe less."

-Trumpy, June 16, 2019

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"Everyone who has ever worked on this problem in good faith has concluded a mandate is the only way it can survive."

Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are.

But worse.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:46 AM | Reply

#28 "Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

I'm sensing a concept of a plan.

#29 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Snoofy,

Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.

Dems have nothing to brag about.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:48 AM | Reply

#30 You're a comedian.

Noted.

#31 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:50 AM | Reply

Dems have nothing to brag about.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Except that we're the ones who want health care.

Just like we're the ones who want full bellies.

And we're the ones who want sex crimes against kids punished.

I could go on....

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

There WERE cost controls; TRUMPCARE repealed that part.

Why won't The Party of Responsibility take any Responsibility?!?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

You're saying it's running short of money. That's 100% the Republicans' doing.

Why won't you give credit where credit is due? This is TRUMPCARE in all its glory.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:10 PM | Reply

Republicans tore Matthew 25 out of their Bibles. And anything else the namesake of Christianity taught ...

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution"

They bent the medical inflation trajectory down, and kept millions of boomers like you from getting put into high-risk pools.

Time for Republicans to do something positive for a change.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:17 PM | Reply

ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up.
#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Case in point. Bill isn't a Christian because he doesn't follow what Christ said.

So, trillions in tax cuts to the wealthiest among us, but no food or medical care for tens of millions, many "the least of these."

Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?"

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

What are you talking about here?

#7 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You mean WHY am I talking about it here? It's not hard to understand WHAT I am talking about.

It's still a free country last I checked my commie agitator spy. I can post on the wrong thread if I wanna!

(Obviously I posted that to the wrong thread but that doesn't make it any less true).

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Pedo 47: "I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE."

bsky.app

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 12:19 PM | Reply

"Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?""

I think Cain serves him best.

I mean, what summarizes BJ more than Am I my bother's keeper?!?

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump and Republicans have had YEARS to come up with the promised "much better" health insurance.

Trump and Republicans have failed. And you've fallen for their lies, Leviticus. (may I just call you "Levi" for short?)

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?"

#37 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Bill is as much of a Christian as OneNut is a Chinese liberal.

Bill is a Fake Plastic Christian.

Trumpy's favorite kind of Christian.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think Cain serves him best."

In his Fake Plastic vernacular he would be known as the "seed of Cain".

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:25 PM | Reply

- Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.

Dems aren't taking away people's Healthcare with NO PLAN to replace it either.

Republicans are.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 12:56 PM | Reply

I mean, what summarizes BJ more than Am I my bother's keeper?!?
#40 | Posted by Danforth

I've been saying this about Conservative Christians for at least ten years.

Conservative Christianity is wholesale rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ.

BillJohnson said in another thread he approves of Trump's reasoning for denying food to the needy. It is an outright repudiation of The Gospel.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 12:57 PM | Reply

"Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either."

That's a dumb comment.
The subsidies work.
There's no reason the couldn't keep working.
You'd just have to agree that it's time to tax the people whose net worth exceeds yours by hundreds of millions of dollars.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 12:59 PM | Reply

#46 Let me throw this idea out there for your consideration:

How about we start taxing the uber-wealthy who have, for the past 40 years, been able to dodge their financial responsibilities that provide them with a country that protects them and their money and their property?

Not to mention the fact that this country has given them, the uber-wealthy, a nation of publicly educated wage-earners who can afford to buy their products/services?

How about that?

Afterall, ingratitude is a Cardinal Sin.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:05 PM | Reply

Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.
#30 | Posted by BillJohnson

Can you articulate what is unworkable about the Democratic solution?
Can you acknowledge it was working fine, until Republicans refused to let it work?
Probably not.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 01:09 PM | Reply

We know Obamacare is
falling apart by any tally
It's crumbling so bad
you'd think it's made by Nature Valley

m.youtube.com

#49 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:22 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Conservative Christianity is wholesale rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ"

But I'm not a "Conservative Christian".

I'm don't accept the idea any translation can be inerrant.

I support abortion rights. Let the woman bear the burden of guilt.

Some conservatives don't even believe gays can be saved.

Your wholesale lumping of all Christians who support some of Trumps actions shows how partisan and willfully blind you are.

And lastly, your claim that you know Christian values better than so-called "Conservative Christianity" is, frankly, evil. You're in league with it.

#50 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:25 PM | Reply

m.youtube.com

#51 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:27 PM | Reply

#50 You are 100% correct.

You're definitely not a "Conservative Christian."

Nope. Not at all.

What you are is a Christian Nationalist, with an abject fear of people of color.

You're welcome.

#52 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:31 PM | Reply

m.youtube.com

#53 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:32 PM | Reply

#50 As for your stance on abortion right. Well, that's mighty white of you.

Meanwhile ...

ABSOLUTE 100% TRUE FACTS ABOUT ABORTION

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But, in the entirety of modern human history, and for many individual reasons, women have sought to terminate the pregnancy of an unwanted child.

Each reason is as individual as the woman seeking to terminate the unwanted child. Sometimes the pregnancy is a result of rape or ------. But whatever the reason, no law or religious dogma has ever stopped women from seeking an abortion for an unwanted child. Nor will it. Not now, not ever.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT EXCEPTION: The most tragic abortions are for women carrying a wanted child but find out that their personal health is at risk. Or that it is an ectopic pregnancy. Or their chance for a future child is jeopardized. Or, the wanted child has no chance to live outside of the womb.

The last scenario is especially hideous: The prognosis for Potter's syndrome is very poor. Most babies with this condition do not survive beyond birth due to respiratory failure. IOW, the mother holds her newborn child while the child SUFFOCATES TO DEATH IN HER ARMS... AND THERE'S NOTHING SHE CAN DO ABOUT IT BUT WATCH HER BABY DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH. This can go on for up to 45 minutes, sometimes even longer.

These are tragic circumstances that, yes, sometimes only become apparent at close to 9 months. This is a fact, a very tragic fact, but a fact, nonetheless. It is also a fact that an abortion is sometimes the only option available for the woman and her family.

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#54 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:33 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Read my researched summary of the ACA why it is failing.

All the original core premises and assumptions flopped.

It was inadequately designed in the first place.

Time to put it to rest and begin again.

No more patchwork temporary fixes.

Trump is the first leader we've had since ACA began who may come closer to getting it right.

He has the mistakes of ACA to learn from and if dems would stop focusing on just a certain class of Americans, maybe they could even work together

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:38 PM | Reply

#55 Have you even once considered the fact that your gaslighting isn't proving anything except your ignorance and ungratefullness ?

Scratch that.

You don't consider anything.

You're welcome, sweetheart.

#56 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:42 PM | Reply

Trump is the first leader we've had since ACA began who may come closer to getting it right.

LOL. And what to you base that on? His tremendous success with everything else he's done?

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-08 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#55 He has the "mistakes" ... "to learn from"?

You think the Trump is willing to learn something?

Why, he's a stable genius... knows everything... and he'll be happy to tell you just that.

My earlier observation is spot-on:

You're a comedian.

#58 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:45 PM | Reply

A,

So it's not enough to support abortion rights.

You want society to applaude so she doesn't feel guilty.

Exceptions are different.

Abortion is immoral, however, I agree it is her "right" to have control over her own body.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:47 PM | Reply

#59 My, how white of you!

#60 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:48 PM | Reply

#55 I don't want society to applaud abortion any more than I want society to applaud mastectomies.

#61 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:49 PM | Reply

#59 You agree it is a woman's "right" to have control over her own body.

That's mighty white of you.

#62 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:51 PM | Reply

You think the Trump is willing to learn something?

I'm sure he's out on the links in Florida right now learning stuff.

More likely, he's trying to figure out where, in that Pharaoh's Tomb Gift Shop formerly known as the Oval Office, he's going to display his FIFA Peace Prize.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-08 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A,

"You don't consider anything."

I consider many things.

Life is full of contradictions and conflicting goals.

It's amazing the human race isn't already insane from all the cognitive dissonance.

Maybe it's already begun.

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:56 PM | Reply

#64 Based solely on your missives here, it is clear that you don't consider a thing.

And, yeah, life is full of contradictions and conflicting goals.

And they said you were stupid.

#65 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:59 PM | Reply

#64 You think it is amazing the human race isn't already insane from all the cognitive dissonance?

That cognitive dissonance insanity is on full display whenever MAGAts congregate.

#66 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 02:04 PM | Reply

A,

"That's mighty white of you."

People still say that?

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 02:24 PM | Reply

Purpose of the ACA:

'The purpose of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was to make health insurance more affordable and accessible for millions of Americans by expanding coverage, reforming the private insurance market, and lowering costs.

Dem created program and only dems pushed it through and as for its purpose it is a abject failure. So new we need more taxpayers monies to help the recipients.

Anyone with healthcare insurance through their companies have had their premiums rise over they years so I guess the government should also subsidize that as well, as those very people in those private programs are also paying taxes that the dems want to give to the ACA. Fact is, like anyone else, those on the ACA should ante up like an adult.

FYI: The costs associated with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) were rising before COVID-19, primarily due to increasing healthcare costs, higher premiums, and growing enrollment.

COVID is long over, your dems set the extra COVID subsidy to end in 2025 and there is no reason to extend it.

#68 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-11-08 02:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

We need universal single payer stat.

#69 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

there is no reason to extend it (ACA)

#68 | Posted by MSgt

I can think of several tens of millions.

#70 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" I think dems already squandered their opportunity and the GOP deserves a chance to do something."

They did.

They eliminated the mandate.

Why won't you blame them for removing a leg? Or are you just going to bitch it's wobbly?

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

Forcing the mandate without reining in run away costs would just make insurance companies and pharmaceuticals richer and not solve any problems.

Just delay the inevitable.

Time to fix it is now!

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:22 PM | Reply

I'm still waiting for some Trumper to explain why the reasonable thing to do is to cut off people's Healthcare before they have a Plan that's better than the ACA ready to implement?

I'm expecting crickets or, as with BJ, the Almighty Trump's Secret Plan!

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,
Forcing the mandate without reining in run away costs would just make insurance companies and pharmaceuticals richer and not solve any problems.
Just delay the inevitable.
Time to fix it is now!
#72 | Posted by BillJohnso

You are an ignorant ----

The mandate pushed healthy people into the pool thus reducing risk and thus cost

The ACA capped insurance company profits

Just 2 of the many cost saving measures

But you are too willfully stupid to educate yourself

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All true, TruthHurts. Since he said "Time to fix it is now!" ask him what the fix is. This is where it gets really entertaining.

#75 | Posted by YAV at 2025-11-08 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yav,

How about asking what dems propose we do now?

Talk about stupid.

They have nothing to offer themselves but attack the GOP.

Trump needs to hold dems feet to the fire on this.

The ACA has burned itself out. Time to rise from the ashes, like a phoenix, with something built to last.

Time for Congress to work together.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:41 PM | Reply

#76 Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you...you lost" they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, if you're just NOW claiming that the solution to the health care crisis has to be to ask Democrats what they want, good luck.

The American people ain't buying it.

#77 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Msgt,

I wrote a researched summary of ACA with a detailed history if its problems.

If you find something wrong id like to know.

#78 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump needs to hold dems feet to the fire on this.
The ACA has burned itself out. Time to rise from the ashes, like a phoenix, with something built to last.
Time for Congress to work together.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:41 PM | Reply

Trump can barely keep his eyes open let alone anything else. BTW Trump doesn't care about healthcare for anyone else but himself. I don't know why you can't see this. I guess it's what happens when you are a cultist. You will bend the knee every time. Sad that be.

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 03:47 PM | Reply

#76 Half of Congress, the House, is in recess with no end in sight.

Because Speaker Mike (R-Of course) REFUSES to bring the House back into session.

Because of the Epstein files.

But the House WILL NOT be back in session, anytime in the foreseeable future.

So where is all this "working together" supposed to come from?

Your imagination?

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:48 PM | Reply

One suspects that Trumpers must always trash their cars and houses BEFORE they buy new ones, right?

Republicans have had at least a couple of decades to come up with a new healthcare plan, and they are trashing the people in the ACA now before they have a new plan.

They are cutting off the healthcare to millions to spite the Democrats.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#79 I had to LOL at your fantastic comment.

For the past 4+ years, the Trump has referred to former President Biden as "Sleepy Joe."

'Tis always a confession or projection with those people.

Always.

#82 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:50 PM | Reply

#76 The Trump is supposed to hold Democrats' feet to the fire? Hell, he won't even invite them to the White House for a conference.

On what Earth do you live?

Face facts: Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you..." they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, if you're just NOW claiming that the solution is for the Trump to hold the Democrats' feet to the fire?

The American people ain't buying it.

#83 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:53 PM | Reply

Republicans are garbage people.

They expect people to give up their healthcare and die in the streets.

But democrats aren't willing to sign that bill.

So republicans are denying people food.

Trump literally went to the Supreme Court to prevent emergency funding to be used to provide Americans food assistance.

Meanwhile ICE remains fully funded, as do all of Trump's pet projects, like his golden ballroom, jets for Kashyap and Noem, and billions for Argentina.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 03:54 PM | Reply

Truth,

"The mandate pushed healthy people into the pool thus reducing risk and thus cost"

Shows you just don't get it.

Making more people pay in doesn't do a thing to reduce costs. It spreads the costs out over more people but doesn't reduce total costs one penny.

In fact, they'll rise.

Basic Economics 101.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:59 PM | Reply

A,

"The American people ain't buying it."

Doesn't matter who buys what.

End of 2025 is nearly here.

Time for dems to s--- or get off the pot.

#86 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 04:03 PM | Reply

BullJohnson is a proud garbage person who believes billionaires deserve tax cuts and poor people deserve to be denied healthcare and food.

What a ------- piece of ---- he is.

Trump got Republicans to stop pretending they believed in human decency.

They're nothing but creatures of hate.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:06 PM | Reply

Like his child-raping hero, Bathhouse Bill has nothing.

#88 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 04:06 PM | Reply

At least Jim Jones gave HIS Cult kool aide.

Trump's Cult just has to suck on his lies... and like it.

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply

Bill has nothing.

He's an empty husk of a human being.

A soulless ghoul who's only concern is spreading hate and misery.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rein,

"Bill has nothing"

What do dems have?

A bottomless money pit...

#91 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 04:15 PM | Reply

Bathhouse Bill supports a demented pedo who starves children.

#92 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At least Jim Jones gave HIS Cult kool aide.
Trump's Cult just has to suck on his lies... and like it.

Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply

It was cyanide laced Flavor Aid. A Kool Aid knock off.

Fixed for historic accuracy.

#93 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 04:17 PM | Reply

Donald Trump went all the way to the Supreme Court to keep food away from hungry children.

You can stop pretending it's the Democrats fault, now.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:22 PM | Reply

Clown,

I hope Trump and the dems can do something together. They have 3 years.

What an opportunity!

Pass a stop gap bill and act like Congressmen instead of politicians worried about who gets the credit.

What a critical moment in time.

History will not be kind if they waste it.

#95 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 05:22 PM | Reply

Done...time to work on something else.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 05:24 PM | Reply

------------------- urges lawmakers to give healthcare money 'directly to the people'

www.yahoo.com

#97 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 05:26 PM | Reply

Rein,

Anything Trump blasts out now is just chatter.

Dems and Trump will need to work it out together.

Right now Trump is likely to say something along the lines of "bleach"....just thinking out loud....which isn't usually a good idea, but he tends to do it.

#98 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:01 PM | Reply

Rein,

Actually, Democrats, Republicans and Trump all need to work together.

There's no other way.

They've got three years.

I pray to God they all recognize the critical nature of this moment, drop the posturing and act like the Congressmen we elected to look out for all Americans.

#99 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:07 PM | Reply

All according to plan...

#100 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-08 07:08 PM | Reply

Why is only half of my ACA post showing up in my history?

Now's not a time to be censoring.

#101 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:12 PM | Reply

I put a lot of time researching and writing that post...it's long so I'll post it again...Now neither part is showing up in my history.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:14 PM | Reply

Dan,
"I knew. Forty years ago."

As did I.

My accounting career, I talked with many owners and accounting managers, and something I saw was alarming. Over and over again, every company I worked with had one thing in common. When their annual group health insurance renewal arrived, the premium had typically increased five to ten percent, in that ballpark.

Year after year, those rate hikes outpaced inflation and consumed a bigger share (percent) of sales revenue than nearly every other expense on their books.

That spelled trouble for companies that had, for years, just absorbed the increases while still offering free health insurance for employees. I even knew one company that provided free family coverage until the late 80s.

At that rate, a brick wall was inevitable. It was just a matter of time. Something was wrong then, and it's still wrong now.

The government eventually stepped in with a grand plan called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare which was supposed to fix the system by spreading out risk and making insurance affordable for everyone. It offered federal premium tax credits (subsidies) for people who bought coverage on new state-run insurance exchanges, along with a mandate requiring everyone to have and pay for health insurance.

The idea was simple. Healthy young people who often skipped insurance would now pay in, spreading and balancing costs for everyone else.
But there was a problem. Many states refused to create their own exchanges or expand Medicaid. That forced Washington to step in and build a massive federal exchange what we now know as Healthcare.gov (as a backup).

It was never supposed to be the main system, but suddenly it was. That was the first wrench in the grand plan.
Then came another one, even bigger.

(continued)

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:17 PM | Reply

(continued from above)

When the ACA was written, it said subsidies were for exchanges "established by the State." That made sense when everyone thought states would cooperate but many didn't. So opponents sued, complaining that people who bought insurance through the federal exchange weren't allowed to get those tax credits. The case, King v. Burwell (2015), went all the way to the Supreme Court.

The Court ruled that Congress meant for subsidies to apply nationwide, whether a state or the federal government ran the exchange. That ruling saved the ACA, but it exposed how fragile it really was. One poorly worded sentence, "established by the State.", nearly destroyed the entire law. Another wrench in the grand plan.

Then came yet another one. The individual mandate penalty for not buying insurance was repealed, thus depriving the grand plan of much needed revenue.

Things haven't worked out the way the architects promised. Yes...some lower income Americans gained coverage, but employer group plans have continued climbing. Self-insured have been squeezed. A huge problem was that cost controls were largely ignored. Furthermore, Congress never allowed cross-state competition, which could have lowered costs by putting pressure on insurance providers. ACA would have never passed if they had.

That brick wall for businesses is still there. Employees covered by employer plans are generally ineligible for subsidized exchange coverage, as are their spouses if the employer's plan meets ACA affordability rules.

Something is still broken in the system. Hospitals, pharmaceuticals, administration, and government regulation continue driving up costs and no one has the backbone to fix them.

Democrats won't touch their signature program, and Republicans still haven't offered a serious, workable alternative.
So here we are, decades later, staring at the same brick wall I saw coming forty years ago.

Then came Trump.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:20 PM | Reply

- Then came Trump.

Who is kicking people off their Healthcare, stealing their SNAP money, and has NO PLAN to replace their Healthcare.

This is when he isn't busy murdering 600,000 people, 2/rds of the children, around the world... when he could have arraigned for other countries and groups to take over their care... or at least give them some notice.

Again, he had NO PLAN to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Some Christian, right?

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 07:25 PM | Reply

The enhanced ACA subsidies (from the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 and extended by the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022) are set to expire at the end of December 2025.

That means people would feel the premium shock starting with 2026 coverage.

Without the enhanced subsidies, average premium payments for subsidized ACA enrollees are expecting approximately a 95% to 114% increase in premiums.

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:38 PM | Reply

Corky,

"Some Christian, right?"

I believe the Christian thing is to care about all Americans.

We all need health care.

It's gotten to the point, it's a necessity like water, food and electricity.

ACA isn't working anywhere remotely like it was originally envisioned.

However, even that vision was inadequate in design.

Time to do better.

Phoenix

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:48 PM | Reply

Some Christian, right?
#105 | Posted by CorkydaFauxXstain

So says the faux xstian.

#108 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-08 08:00 PM | Reply

= to care about all Americans.

Unsurprisingly, that's what a White Nationalist MAGAnite WOULD think.

Jesus didn't teach people to only care about their own people; when asked, "Who is my brother?", he told the story of the Good Samaritan.

The essence being that all people are our brothers and sisters.

There's only one person in this world that Trump cares about; himself.

He's murdered 100's of thousands of children this year, and that's not something Christians should be doing, ya think?

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:03 PM | Reply

#108

Given up your DNA to China yet, Commie?

#110 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:04 PM | Reply

#108 | POSTED BY IAMRUNT

So says the authentic MAGA shitstain.

#111 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 08:04 PM | Reply

SO... Trump has decided that NOW IS THE TIME... to start months of werk on a replacement for the ACA AFTER he throws people off of it.

www.theguardian.com

Stable Genius indeed!!

#112 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:08 PM | Reply

"ACA isn't working anywhere remotely like it was originally envisioned."

That's because the mandate was removed.

Even the Heritage Foundation will admit eschewing the mandate makes the equation unsustainable.

Why aren't you blaming the folks who threw the monkey wrench into the gears?!?

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 08:17 PM | Reply

"Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont who caucuses with the Democrats, responded to the criticism of the insurance companies by writing:

"Oh, Trump and the Republicans can't stand how the big, bad insurance companies are ripping-off Americans. Really? Are you serious?

Then I welcome your support for Medicare for All. Let's end the greed of the insurance industry & make healthcare a human right, not a privilege."

from the link in #112

(apparently Trump wrote a post while golfing to fool his rwing populist base into 'thinking' that he was for them and not the Corporations which they of course fell for)

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:27 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Even the Heritage Foundation will admit eschewing the mandate makes the equation unsustainable."

That's possibly true. I wouldn't go so far as to say I believe it, though. In and of itself, its not a solution.

Without real cost controls, any mandate money would just get eaten up.

Economics 101.

#115 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 08:28 PM | Reply

Good night all

#116 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 08:43 PM | Reply

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