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With the tax credits set to expire at the end of this year, many policyholders are learning the ACA, commonly referred to as Obamacare, will no longer be affordable unless Congress intervenes.

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Thyroid cancer patient Astrid Storey deserves to die because she made Bad Life Choices. For example, she moved here from Panama.
--Republicans

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-07 08:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GOP doesn't care.

They are starving children and families to force the democrats into taking away health insurance from the middle class.

This is all out of Project 2025 which ALL OF THEM LIED WHEN THEY SAID THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Then they downplay the ass kicking they got on Tuesday. From local elections to school boards to state elections to governorships to mayoral races trumpism became toxic.

Every single member of Klanned Karenhood running for school boards in PA lost.

The 10 month reign of fascism has awoken the voters.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-11-07 10:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"Every single member of Klanned Karenhood running for school boards in PA lost."

Nicely done! Very creative!

I'm stealing that one.

This is why I still come here.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-07 11:08 AM | Reply

"Assault a law enforcement officer, and you'll be prosecuted," Pirro (and Bondi) said. What they neglected to mention is that after the prosecution, if the president decides he approves of the motivation of those who committed the assault, they'll be shielded from any consequences for their actions.

Like the J6 insurrectionists.

They assaulted the Capitol police with pepper spray flagpoles and shields and anything they could scrounge up.

Trumpy pardoned them.

A citizen throws a sandwich at Trumpy's ICEholes and Trumpy's minions get unhinged and try (unsuccessfully) to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law and (successfully) destroy his livelihood(so he can no longer afford to fight back) .

Welcome to Trumplandia and the Great FAFO.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-07 11:21 AM | Reply

My only question is when does Trump declare Marshall Law?

Because it's not going to stay peaceful for long.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-07 12:11 PM | Reply


Thyroid cancer patient Astrid Storey deserves to die because she made Bad Life Choices. For example, she moved here from Panama.
--Republicans

#1 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If only ObamaCare could have kept prices down for people.

Bummer really, especially for Astrid.

But you know who made alot of money?

Thanks ObamaCare!

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:39 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

What are you talking about here?

#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:40 PM | Reply


My only question is when does Trump declare Marshall Law?

Because it's not going to stay peaceful for long.

#5 | POSTED BY CORKY

I have been saying this Corky, but only now you guys listen. Inflation isn't "transitory" like Snoofy said 3-4years ago.

Its real and will continue until the government stops printing money, which means it has to stop spending. What you are asking is for the country to keep spending, and thus creating more DEBT. In the next thread you'll complain about Trumps $38Trillion in debt.

Americans have no idea what they are advocating, I suspect they are just economically illiterate given the ability to print USD has hidden them from reality..

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-07 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8

drudge.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-07 04:53 PM | Reply

ACA is a failure.

It requires more and more money to prop it up.

Time for a change.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Perhaps if dems had fixed it instead of propping it up, we wouldn't be in the situation we are today.

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:15 AM | Reply

#10 If ACA is a failure, then why are tens of millions of American citizens dependent upon it for their health?

#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

1) LOL. Trump and the GOP have no interest in fixing it.

2) Letting it collapse means the loss of lives.

3) Why not agree to the year extension and let both Parties work on fixing it? Because...

4) Trump and the GOP have no interest in providing health care.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#10 Let the Trump fix it?

In 2020 he told Chris Wallace that a full and complete health care plan will be released in "2 weeks"

That was 5+ years ago.

How many more "2 weeks" must Americans endure?

#13 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Posted by BillJohnson

You fascists have this attitude towards human suffering: you're all for it.

Go ahead and protest that statement. But the next time an issue of want or poverty comes up...

You'll justify the want and poverty.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Zed,

If the GOP fails to deliver, the next election dems will likely control Congress and the White House.

That would be their chance.

That's about the best they can hope for if Trump fails.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:27 AM | Reply

#15 The GOPyers have had OVER A DECADE to produce an alternative to the ACA.

Not a single plan, or even a concept of a plan, has ever been introduced by them that entire time.

I'd say THAT counts as failure to deliver.

#16 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at

People can't buy groceries with a vote they can make in another year or two.

#17 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-08 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

... or health insurance.

#18 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-08 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up."

Everyone who has ever worked on this problem in good faith has concluded a mandate is the only way it can survive.

Then Republicans eliminated the mandate.

This is TRUMPCARE.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#19 Newsworthy

#20 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:35 AM | Reply

ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up.
#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Where do you think that money ends up?
A question Republicans can't answer.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 11:38 AM | Reply

Zed,

If dems fail to fix health care for all (again), we'll be right back here again.

Frankly, I think dems already squandered their opportunity and the GOP deserves a chance to do something.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:39 AM | Reply


Where do you think that money ends up?
A question Republicans can't answer.

#21 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Right where the Democrats and their lobbyist intended.

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-08 11:41 AM | Reply

#22 The GOPyers have had OVER A DECADE to produce an alternative to the ACA.

They are the ones who have squandered their opportunity

Why are you defending a bunch of failures who cannot do the basic job of governance?

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:15 AM | Reply

Trump isn't going to fix anything. He's destroying this country and you cretins are just going along with it. God I often questioned how Jim Jones got so many people to follow him. BillJohnson Thank You for educating me on how that happened. You are a cultist through and through.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the GOP deserves a chance to do something.
#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

The GOP is doing their thing right now.
The GOP is removing health care from tens of millions of Americans.
That's the GOP plan.
Own it.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 11:44 AM | Reply

If the GOP fails to deliver, the next election dems will likely control Congress and the White House.

They have a plan! No worries. It will be ready anytime now!

Anytime!

"We're going to produce phenomenal health care. And we already have the concept of the plan. And it'll be much better health care," Trump told George Stephanopoulos.

"Yeah, we'll be announcing that in two months, maybe less."

-Trumpy, June 16, 2019

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"Everyone who has ever worked on this problem in good faith has concluded a mandate is the only way it can survive."

Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are.

But worse.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:46 AM | Reply

#28 "Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

I'm sensing a concept of a plan.

#29 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Snoofy,

Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.

Dems have nothing to brag about.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:48 AM | Reply

#30 You're a comedian.

Noted.

#31 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:50 AM | Reply

Dems have nothing to brag about.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Except that we're the ones who want health care.

Just like we're the ones who want full bellies.

And we're the ones who want sex crimes against kids punished.

I could go on....

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

There WERE cost controls; TRUMPCARE repealed that part.

Why won't The Party of Responsibility take any Responsibility?!?

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Mandate without cost controls would end up right back where we are."

You're saying it's running short of money. That's 100% the Republicans' doing.

Why won't you give credit where credit is due? This is TRUMPCARE in all its glory.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:10 PM | Reply

Republicans tore Matthew 25 out of their Bibles. And anything else the namesake of Christianity taught ...

#35 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution"

They bent the medical inflation trajectory down, and kept millions of boomers like you from getting put into high-risk pools.

Time for Republicans to do something positive for a change.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:17 PM | Reply

ACA is a failure. It requires more and more money to prop it up.
#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Case in point. Bill isn't a Christian because he doesn't follow what Christ said.

So, trillions in tax cuts to the wealthiest among us, but no food or medical care for tens of millions, many "the least of these."

Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?"

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

What are you talking about here?

#7 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You mean WHY am I talking about it here? It's not hard to understand WHAT I am talking about.

It's still a free country last I checked my commie agitator spy. I can post on the wrong thread if I wanna!

(Obviously I posted that to the wrong thread but that doesn't make it any less true).

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Pedo 47: "I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE."

bsky.app

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 12:19 PM | Reply

"Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?""

I think Cain serves him best.

I mean, what summarizes BJ more than Am I my bother's keeper?!?

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let it collapse under its own weight and let Trump fix it.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump and Republicans have had YEARS to come up with the promised "much better" health insurance.

Trump and Republicans have failed. And you've fallen for their lies, Leviticus. (may I just call you "Levi" for short?)

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-08 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bill, you're no Christian. Don't know what to call you. "Leviticus?"

#37 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Bill is as much of a Christian as OneNut is a Chinese liberal.

Bill is a Fake Plastic Christian.

Trumpy's favorite kind of Christian.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think Cain serves him best."

In his Fake Plastic vernacular he would be known as the "seed of Cain".

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-08 12:25 PM | Reply

- Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.

Dems aren't taking away people's Healthcare with NO PLAN to replace it either.

Republicans are.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 12:56 PM | Reply

I mean, what summarizes BJ more than Am I my bother's keeper?!?
#40 | Posted by Danforth

I've been saying this about Conservative Christians for at least ten years.

Conservative Christianity is wholesale rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ.

BillJohnson said in another thread he approves of Trump's reasoning for denying food to the needy. It is an outright repudiation of The Gospel.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 12:57 PM | Reply

"Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either."

That's a dumb comment.
The subsidies work.
There's no reason the couldn't keep working.
You'd just have to agree that it's time to tax the people whose net worth exceeds yours by hundreds of millions of dollars.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 12:59 PM | Reply

#46 Let me throw this idea out there for your consideration:

How about we start taxing the uber-wealthy who have, for the past 40 years, been able to dodge their financial responsibilities that provide them with a country that protects them and their money and their property?

Not to mention the fact that this country has given them, the uber-wealthy, a nation of publicly educated wage-earners who can afford to buy their products/services?

How about that?

Afterall, ingratitude is a Cardinal Sin.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:05 PM | Reply

Dems aren't offering a workable long term solution either.
#30 | Posted by BillJohnson

Can you articulate what is unworkable about the Democratic solution?
Can you acknowledge it was working fine, until Republicans refused to let it work?
Probably not.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-08 01:09 PM | Reply

We know Obamacare is
falling apart by any tally
It's crumbling so bad
you'd think it's made by Nature Valley

m.youtube.com

#49 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:22 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Conservative Christianity is wholesale rejection of the teachings of Jesus Christ"

But I'm not a "Conservative Christian".

I'm don't accept the idea any translation can be inerrant.

I support abortion rights. Let the woman bear the burden of guilt.

Some conservatives don't even believe gays can be saved.

Your wholesale lumping of all Christians who support some of Trumps actions shows how partisan and willfully blind you are.

And lastly, your claim that you know Christian values better than so-called "Conservative Christianity" is, frankly, evil. You're in league with it.

#50 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:25 PM | Reply

m.youtube.com

#51 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:27 PM | Reply

#50 You are 100% correct.

You're definitely not a "Conservative Christian."

Nope. Not at all.

What you are is a Christian Nationalist, with an abject fear of people of color.

You're welcome.

#52 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:31 PM | Reply

m.youtube.com

#53 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-11-08 01:32 PM | Reply

#50 As for your stance on abortion right. Well, that's mighty white of you.

Meanwhile ...

ABSOLUTE 100% TRUE FACTS ABOUT ABORTION

In the entirety of modern human history, no woman has willingly sought an abortion for a wanted child. Not at 9 hours. Not at 9 days. Not at 9 weeks. Not at 9 months. Not ever. WITH ONE VERY IMPORTANT EXCEPTION

But, in the entirety of modern human history, and for many individual reasons, women have sought to terminate the pregnancy of an unwanted child.

Each reason is as individual as the woman seeking to terminate the unwanted child. Sometimes the pregnancy is a result of rape or ------. But whatever the reason, no law or religious dogma has ever stopped women from seeking an abortion for an unwanted child. Nor will it. Not now, not ever.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT EXCEPTION: The most tragic abortions are for women carrying a wanted child but find out that their personal health is at risk. Or that it is an ectopic pregnancy. Or their chance for a future child is jeopardized. Or, the wanted child has no chance to live outside of the womb.

The last scenario is especially hideous: The prognosis for Potter's syndrome is very poor. Most babies with this condition do not survive beyond birth due to respiratory failure. IOW, the mother holds her newborn child while the child SUFFOCATES TO DEATH IN HER ARMS... AND THERE'S NOTHING SHE CAN DO ABOUT IT BUT WATCH HER BABY DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH. This can go on for up to 45 minutes, sometimes even longer.

These are tragic circumstances that, yes, sometimes only become apparent at close to 9 months. This is a fact, a very tragic fact, but a fact, nonetheless. It is also a fact that an abortion is sometimes the only option available for the woman and her family.

Nothing " NOTHING " you or anyone can say will alter these...

ABSOLUTE 100% TRUE FACTS ABOUT ABORTION

#54 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:33 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Read my researched summary of the ACA why it is failing.

All the original core premises and assumptions flopped.

It was inadequately designed in the first place.

Time to put it to rest and begin again.

No more patchwork temporary fixes.

Trump is the first leader we've had since ACA began who may come closer to getting it right.

He has the mistakes of ACA to learn from and if dems would stop focusing on just a certain class of Americans, maybe they could even work together

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:38 PM | Reply

#55 Have you even once considered the fact that your gaslighting isn't proving anything except your ignorance and ungratefullness ?

Scratch that.

You don't consider anything.

You're welcome, sweetheart.

#56 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:42 PM | Reply

Trump is the first leader we've had since ACA began who may come closer to getting it right.

LOL. And what to you base that on? His tremendous success with everything else he's done?

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-08 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#55 He has the "mistakes" ... "to learn from"?

You think the Trump is willing to learn something?

Why, he's a stable genius... knows everything... and he'll be happy to tell you just that.

My earlier observation is spot-on:

You're a comedian.

#58 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:45 PM | Reply

A,

So it's not enough to support abortion rights.

You want society to applaude so she doesn't feel guilty.

Exceptions are different.

Abortion is immoral, however, I agree it is her "right" to have control over her own body.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:47 PM | Reply

#59 My, how white of you!

#60 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:48 PM | Reply

#55 I don't want society to applaud abortion any more than I want society to applaud mastectomies.

#61 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:49 PM | Reply

#59 You agree it is a woman's "right" to have control over her own body.

That's mighty white of you.

#62 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:51 PM | Reply

You think the Trump is willing to learn something?

I'm sure he's out on the links in Florida right now learning stuff.

More likely, he's trying to figure out where, in that Pharaoh's Tomb Gift Shop formerly known as the Oval Office, he's going to display his FIFA Peace Prize.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-08 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A,

"You don't consider anything."

I consider many things.

Life is full of contradictions and conflicting goals.

It's amazing the human race isn't already insane from all the cognitive dissonance.

Maybe it's already begun.

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 01:56 PM | Reply

#64 Based solely on your missives here, it is clear that you don't consider a thing.

And, yeah, life is full of contradictions and conflicting goals.

And they said you were stupid.

#65 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 01:59 PM | Reply

#64 You think it is amazing the human race isn't already insane from all the cognitive dissonance?

That cognitive dissonance insanity is on full display whenever MAGAts congregate.

#66 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 02:04 PM | Reply

A,

"That's mighty white of you."

People still say that?

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 02:24 PM | Reply

Purpose of the ACA:

'The purpose of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was to make health insurance more affordable and accessible for millions of Americans by expanding coverage, reforming the private insurance market, and lowering costs.

Dem created program and only dems pushed it through and as for its purpose it is a abject failure. So new we need more taxpayers monies to help the recipients.

Anyone with healthcare insurance through their companies have had their premiums rise over they years so I guess the government should also subsidize that as well, as those very people in those private programs are also paying taxes that the dems want to give to the ACA. Fact is, like anyone else, those on the ACA should ante up like an adult.

FYI: The costs associated with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) were rising before COVID-19, primarily due to increasing healthcare costs, higher premiums, and growing enrollment.

COVID is long over, your dems set the extra COVID subsidy to end in 2025 and there is no reason to extend it.

#68 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-11-08 02:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

We need universal single payer stat.

#69 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

there is no reason to extend it (ACA)

#68 | Posted by MSgt

I can think of several tens of millions.

#70 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-08 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

" I think dems already squandered their opportunity and the GOP deserves a chance to do something."

They did.

They eliminated the mandate.

Why won't you blame them for removing a leg? Or are you just going to bitch it's wobbly?

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Dan,

Forcing the mandate without reining in run away costs would just make insurance companies and pharmaceuticals richer and not solve any problems.

Just delay the inevitable.

Time to fix it is now!

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:22 PM | Reply

I'm still waiting for some Trumper to explain why the reasonable thing to do is to cut off people's Healthcare before they have a Plan that's better than the ACA ready to implement?

I'm expecting crickets or, as with BJ, the Almighty Trump's Secret Plan!

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Dan,
Forcing the mandate without reining in run away costs would just make insurance companies and pharmaceuticals richer and not solve any problems.
Just delay the inevitable.
Time to fix it is now!
#72 | Posted by BillJohnso

You are an ignorant ----

The mandate pushed healthy people into the pool thus reducing risk and thus cost

The ACA capped insurance company profits

Just 2 of the many cost saving measures

But you are too willfully stupid to educate yourself

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All true, TruthHurts. Since he said "Time to fix it is now!" ask him what the fix is. This is where it gets really entertaining.

#75 | Posted by YAV at 2025-11-08 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Yav,

How about asking what dems propose we do now?

Talk about stupid.

They have nothing to offer themselves but attack the GOP.

Trump needs to hold dems feet to the fire on this.

The ACA has burned itself out. Time to rise from the ashes, like a phoenix, with something built to last.

Time for Congress to work together.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:41 PM | Reply

#76 Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you...you lost" they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, if you're just NOW claiming that the solution to the health care crisis has to be to ask Democrats what they want, good luck.

The American people ain't buying it.

#77 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Msgt,

I wrote a researched summary of ACA with a detailed history if its problems.

If you find something wrong id like to know.

#78 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump needs to hold dems feet to the fire on this.
The ACA has burned itself out. Time to rise from the ashes, like a phoenix, with something built to last.
Time for Congress to work together.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:41 PM | Reply

Trump can barely keep his eyes open let alone anything else. BTW Trump doesn't care about healthcare for anyone else but himself. I don't know why you can't see this. I guess it's what happens when you are a cultist. You will bend the knee every time. Sad that be.

#79 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#76 Half of Congress, the House, is in recess with no end in sight.

Because Speaker Mike (R-Of course) REFUSES to bring the House back into session.

Because of the Epstein files.

But the House WILL NOT be back in session, anytime in the foreseeable future.

So where is all this "working together" supposed to come from?

Your imagination?

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:48 PM | Reply

One suspects that Trumpers must always trash their cars and houses BEFORE they buy new ones, right?

Republicans have had at least a couple of decades to come up with a new healthcare plan, and they are trashing the people in the ACA now before they have a new plan.

They are cutting off the healthcare to millions to spite the Democrats.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#79 I had to LOL at your fantastic comment.

For the past 4+ years, the Trump has referred to former President Biden as "Sleepy Joe."

'Tis always a confession or projection with those people.

Always.

#82 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#76 The Trump is supposed to hold Democrats' feet to the fire? Hell, he won't even invite them to the White House for a conference.

On what Earth do you live?

Face facts: Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you..." they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, if you're just NOW claiming that the solution is for the Trump to hold the Democrats' feet to the fire?

The American people ain't buying it.

#83 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 03:53 PM | Reply

Republicans are garbage people.

They expect people to give up their healthcare and die in the streets.

But democrats aren't willing to sign that bill.

So republicans are denying people food.

Trump literally went to the Supreme Court to prevent emergency funding to be used to provide Americans food assistance.

Meanwhile ICE remains fully funded, as do all of Trump's pet projects, like his golden ballroom, jets for Kashyap and Noem, and billions for Argentina.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 03:54 PM | Reply

Truth,

"The mandate pushed healthy people into the pool thus reducing risk and thus cost"

Shows you just don't get it.

Making more people pay in doesn't do a thing to reduce costs. It spreads the costs out over more people but doesn't reduce total costs one penny.

In fact, they'll rise.

Basic Economics 101.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 03:59 PM | Reply

A,

"The American people ain't buying it."

Doesn't matter who buys what.

End of 2025 is nearly here.

Time for dems to s--- or get off the pot.

#86 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 04:03 PM | Reply

BullJohnson is a proud garbage person who believes billionaires deserve tax cuts and poor people deserve to be denied healthcare and food.

What a ------- piece of ---- he is.

Trump got Republicans to stop pretending they believed in human decency.

They're nothing but creatures of hate.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:06 PM | Reply

Like his child-raping hero, Bathhouse Bill has nothing.

#88 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 04:06 PM | Reply

At least Jim Jones gave HIS Cult kool aide.

Trump's Cult just has to suck on his lies... and like it.

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply

Bill has nothing.

He's an empty husk of a human being.

A soulless ghoul who's only concern is spreading hate and misery.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Rein,

"Bill has nothing"

What do dems have?

A bottomless money pit...

#91 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 04:15 PM | Reply

Bathhouse Bill supports a demented pedo who starves children.

#92 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

At least Jim Jones gave HIS Cult kool aide.
Trump's Cult just has to suck on his lies... and like it.

Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 04:08 PM | Reply

It was cyanide laced Flavor Aid. A Kool Aid knock off.

Fixed for historic accuracy.

#93 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 04:17 PM | Reply

Donald Trump went all the way to the Supreme Court to keep food away from hungry children.

You can stop pretending it's the Democrats fault, now.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-08 04:22 PM | Reply

Clown,

I hope Trump and the dems can do something together. They have 3 years.

What an opportunity!

Pass a stop gap bill and act like Congressmen instead of politicians worried about who gets the credit.

What a critical moment in time.

History will not be kind if they waste it.

#95 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 05:22 PM | Reply

Done...time to work on something else.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 05:24 PM | Reply

------------------- urges lawmakers to give healthcare money 'directly to the people'

www.yahoo.com

#97 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 05:26 PM | Reply

Rein,

Anything Trump blasts out now is just chatter.

Dems and Trump will need to work it out together.

Right now Trump is likely to say something along the lines of "bleach"....just thinking out loud....which isn't usually a good idea, but he tends to do it.

#98 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:01 PM | Reply

Rein,

Actually, Democrats, Republicans and Trump all need to work together.

There's no other way.

They've got three years.

I pray to God they all recognize the critical nature of this moment, drop the posturing and act like the Congressmen we elected to look out for all Americans.

#99 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:07 PM | Reply

All according to plan...

#100 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-08 07:08 PM | Reply

Why is only half of my ACA post showing up in my history?

Now's not a time to be censoring.

#101 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

I put a lot of time researching and writing that post...it's long so I'll post it again...Now neither part is showing up in my history.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dan,
"I knew. Forty years ago."

As did I.

My accounting career, I talked with many owners and accounting managers, and something I saw was alarming. Over and over again, every company I worked with had one thing in common. When their annual group health insurance renewal arrived, the premium had typically increased five to ten percent, in that ballpark.

Year after year, those rate hikes outpaced inflation and consumed a bigger share (percent) of sales revenue than nearly every other expense on their books.

That spelled trouble for companies that had, for years, just absorbed the increases while still offering free health insurance for employees. I even knew one company that provided free family coverage until the late 80s.

At that rate, a brick wall was inevitable. It was just a matter of time. Something was wrong then, and it's still wrong now.

The government eventually stepped in with a grand plan called the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or Obamacare which was supposed to fix the system by spreading out risk and making insurance affordable for everyone. It offered federal premium tax credits (subsidies) for people who bought coverage on new state-run insurance exchanges, along with a mandate requiring everyone to have and pay for health insurance.

The idea was simple. Healthy young people who often skipped insurance would now pay in, spreading and balancing costs for everyone else.
But there was a problem. Many states refused to create their own exchanges or expand Medicaid. That forced Washington to step in and build a massive federal exchange what we now know as Healthcare.gov (as a backup).

It was never supposed to be the main system, but suddenly it was. That was the first wrench in the grand plan.
Then came another one, even bigger.

(continued)

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

(continued from above)

When the ACA was written, it said subsidies were for exchanges "established by the State." That made sense when everyone thought states would cooperate but many didn't. So opponents sued, complaining that people who bought insurance through the federal exchange weren't allowed to get those tax credits. The case, King v. Burwell (2015), went all the way to the Supreme Court.

The Court ruled that Congress meant for subsidies to apply nationwide, whether a state or the federal government ran the exchange. That ruling saved the ACA, but it exposed how fragile it really was. One poorly worded sentence, "established by the State.", nearly destroyed the entire law. Another wrench in the grand plan.

Then came yet another one. The individual mandate penalty for not buying insurance was repealed, thus depriving the grand plan of much needed revenue.

Things haven't worked out the way the architects promised. Yes...some lower income Americans gained coverage, but employer group plans have continued climbing. Self-insured have been squeezed. A huge problem was that cost controls were largely ignored. Furthermore, Congress never allowed cross-state competition, which could have lowered costs by putting pressure on insurance providers. ACA would have never passed if they had.

That brick wall for businesses is still there. Employees covered by employer plans are generally ineligible for subsidized exchange coverage, as are their spouses if the employer's plan meets ACA affordability rules.

Something is still broken in the system. Hospitals, pharmaceuticals, administration, and government regulation continue driving up costs and no one has the backbone to fix them.

Democrats won't touch their signature program, and Republicans still haven't offered a serious, workable alternative.
So here we are, decades later, staring at the same brick wall I saw coming forty years ago.

Then came Trump.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Then came Trump.

Who is kicking people off their Healthcare, stealing their SNAP money, and has NO PLAN to replace their Healthcare.

This is when he isn't busy murdering 600,000 people, 2/rds of the children, around the world... when he could have arraigned for other countries and groups to take over their care... or at least give them some notice.

Again, he had NO PLAN to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Some Christian, right?

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 07:25 PM | Reply

The enhanced ACA subsidies (from the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 and extended by the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022) are set to expire at the end of December 2025.

That means people would feel the premium shock starting with 2026 coverage.

Without the enhanced subsidies, average premium payments for subsidized ACA enrollees are expecting approximately a 95% to 114% increase in premiums.

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:38 PM | Reply

Corky,

"Some Christian, right?"

I believe the Christian thing is to care about all Americans.

We all need health care.

It's gotten to the point, it's a necessity like water, food and electricity.

ACA isn't working anywhere remotely like it was originally envisioned.

However, even that vision was inadequate in design.

Time to do better.

Phoenix

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 07:48 PM | Reply

Some Christian, right?
#105 | Posted by CorkydaFauxXstain

So says the faux xstian.

#108 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-08 08:00 PM | Reply

= to care about all Americans.

Unsurprisingly, that's what a White Nationalist MAGAnite WOULD think.

Jesus didn't teach people to only care about their own people; when asked, "Who is my brother?", he told the story of the Good Samaritan.

The essence being that all people are our brothers and sisters.

There's only one person in this world that Trump cares about; himself.

He's murdered 100's of thousands of children this year, and that's not something Christians should be doing, ya think?

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:03 PM | Reply

#108

Given up your DNA to China yet, Commie?

#110 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:04 PM | Reply

#108 | POSTED BY IAMRUNT

So says the authentic MAGA ---------.

#111 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-08 08:04 PM | Reply

SO... Trump has decided that NOW IS THE TIME... to start months of werk on a replacement for the ACA AFTER he throws people off of it.

www.theguardian.com

Stable Genius indeed!!

#112 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"ACA isn't working anywhere remotely like it was originally envisioned."

That's because the mandate was removed.

Even the Heritage Foundation will admit eschewing the mandate makes the equation unsustainable.

Why aren't you blaming the folks who threw the monkey wrench into the gears?!?

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 08:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont who caucuses with the Democrats, responded to the criticism of the insurance companies by writing:

"Oh, Trump and the Republicans can't stand how the big, bad insurance companies are ripping-off Americans. Really? Are you serious?

Then I welcome your support for Medicare for All. Let's end the greed of the insurance industry & make healthcare a human right, not a privilege."

from the link in #112

(apparently Trump wrote a post while golfing to fool his rwing populist base into 'thinking' that he was for them and not the Corporations which they of course fell for)

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-08 08:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"Even the Heritage Foundation will admit eschewing the mandate makes the equation unsustainable."

That's possibly true. I wouldn't go so far as to say I believe it, though. In and of itself, its not a solution.

Without real cost controls, any mandate money would just get eaten up.

Economics 101.

#115 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 08:28 PM | Reply

Good night all

#116 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 08:43 PM | Reply

#102 Does anyone really care what this heartless individual has to say?

#117 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 09:26 PM | Reply

"That's possibly true."

Admit you don't understand the math without using those specific words.

There is NO DOUBT it's true, just based on the math.

It's how all the countries with UHC make it work, and for a LOWER percentage of GDP than Americans pay, for measurably worse outcomes.

#118 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 09:34 PM | Reply

"I wouldn't go so far as to say I believe it, though."

That's exactly what I expect from someone with your level of intelligence.

#119 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 09:35 PM | Reply

102 Does anyone really care what this heartless individual has to say?

Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 09:26 PM | Reply

I'd rather eat paint chips.

#120 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-08 09:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#118 and #119 Thank you for your excellent posts.

I simply cannot understand the unicorn-believing Pollyanna that is this BJ person.

Talk about self-importance: Who asked for his (absurd and idiotic) "post"?

It is, as you so appropriately put it, something you would expect from someone with his level of intelligence.

His insistence that Democrats HAVE to work with the Trump. The exact same Trump WHO EXCLUDED DEMOCRATS FROM A WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING.

The exact same Trump who has publicly stated on multiple occasions that he "hates" Democrats and "cannot stand them". His rhetoric frequently targets the Democratic party as a political opponent, often describing them as the "enemy from within" or more dangerous than foreign adversaries.

That's who this BJ character expects to willingly work with Democrats?

Really?

Plus, this imbecile BJ fails this basic political test:

Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you..." they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, this BJ character expects DEMOCRATS to bend the knee when the GOPyers own EVERYTHING in Washington? This BJ character completely absolves them from ANY responsibility in this current situation.

Plus, this BJ character expects Democrats to work with Trump (but never Republicans) when the GOPyers have proven that they have zero integrity. See: Recission veto.

This BJ character also advocates immediately jettisoning ACA and THEN start working on a "replacement"? Again, completely ignoring the fact that the GOP has had more than 10 years to come up with their own plan. Well, a plan that isn't just "get sick and die." What does he expect people to do about healthcare if ACA is immediately discarded and a "replacement" acceptable to Congress and a presidential signature, is delivered?

6 months?

6 years?

Thanks again for your excellent retorts to the BJ character.

#121 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 09:53 PM | Reply

#120 I had to LOL at your retort. Bravo!

#122 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 09:56 PM | Reply

#86 Then when the f**k isn't it time for the GOPyers to s--- or get off the pot?

Why are you absolving the MAJORITY PARTY IN CONGRESS for any responsibility whatsoever? Why?

Face facts: Ever since the election a year ago, everyone from Trump on down has loved, just loved to say how the American people put them in charge of the White House, the Senate, the House, and, of course, SCOTUS.

They have made sure that everyone, including the American people, knows that they're the ones in charge. "HaHaHa, Democrats... we own you..." they sneer.

Yep. They LOL at Democrats, calling them losers. Taunting about a Vance/Rubio ticket 2028-2036. "HaHaHa" or "LOL" is their go-to line about Democrats.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

So, if you're just NOW claiming that the failure to solve the healthcare crisis (manufactured by the Trump) is the fault of the Democrats, and that THEY (in the minority) are responsible for fixing it, good luck.

The American people ain't buying it.

Yes, you are this idiotic... you seem unsatisfied unless you prove that over and over and over and over... again.

#123 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 10:06 PM | Reply

#86 Then when the f**k isn't it time for the GOPyers to s--- or get off the pot?

Never? Why should they? Democrats dug themselves a hole, they did nothing to get out of it.

The R's know the D's will just hold it against them.

Why are you absolving the MAJORITY PARTY IN CONGRESS for any responsibility whatsoever? Why?

Because they didn't cause this.

It seems that the Americans got the message: Trump and the GOP own Washington DC. Not Democrats.

Then why are we in a shutdown? You really don't understand how the system works do you?

Yes, you are this idiotic...

Perhaps, but smarter than you appearently.

#124 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-08 10:13 PM | Reply

#78 You wrote a researched summary of ACA with a detailed history if its problems?

Self-importance.

Impotent thinking.

And you asked someone here that if they find something wrong you'd like to know.

How about 100% of your self-important ------- was wrong? That would be the sum of it.

Just WTF are you?

And WTF should anyone read, believe, and, most importantly, give a --- about your "research"?

You have an Internet connection, right?

You have a browser, correct?

Why, that makes you, strange, impotent, Pollyannaish character, so well educated.

Because you have an Internet connection and a browser.

Is that about right?

#125 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 10:34 PM | Reply

A,

"So, this BJ character expects DEMOCRATS to bend the knee"

No. I don't really care what Democrats do.

I see plenty of ranting from everywhere, and really, it makes no difference to me what any of them do.

What I do expect is for every member of Congress, regardless of their party, to stop thinking like politicians and start thinking like representatives elected to serve the people.

They have an obligation to act in the best interest of all Americans and not just whatever keeps their constituents happy enough to reelect them.

Is that asking too much?

Am I fooling myself thinking that is still possible?

#126 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 10:42 PM | Reply

"What I do expect is for every member of Congress, regardless of their party, to stop thinking like politicians and start thinking like representatives elected to serve the people.
They have an obligation to act in the best interest of all Americans and not just whatever keeps their constituents happy enough to reelect them."

In the past 25 year what substantive laws has the republican party passed or promoted that benefits the poor and middle class?

#127 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 10:47 PM | Reply

A,

"How about 100% of your self-important ------- was wrong?"

Ok...what is inaccurate?

Prove it or move along.

Let me know, so I can research it.

If something is incorrect I would like to know.

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 10:50 PM | Reply

#126 You have made it abundantly clear what you want Democrats to do.

Yeah, they have an obligation to act in the best interest of the American people.

BUT DEMOCRATS ARE NOT IN CHARGE.

The GOPyers and Trump are.

Get THEM to start working with the minority party.

Are you fooling yourself thinking that is still possible?

Meanwhile, take your "one-sided BS/BJ" gaslighting and impotently try to sell it elsewhere.

WTF do you think I keep calling you Pollyannish?

As for asking that politicians to not just do whatever keeps their constituents happy enough to reelect them...

WTF do you think is their motivation? It used to be that people like JFK called us all to a higher calling to help make America a great country.

Reagan turned that into a punchline about "I'm here from the government and I'm here to help."

Sell that one to the people in western North Carolina who are still awaiting relief in their area... being held hostage to dog-killer Christie's "looking for fraud" excuses that are sitting on her desk.

Welcome to reality, you Pollyannaish, pathetic, naive character.

"Tis like shooting fish in a barrel.

#129 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 10:57 PM | Reply

#128 Your entire "thesis" is self-important/self-stimulating BS coming from a position and THEN finding the rationalization for it.

See also: Gaslighting.

See also: Unwelcome.

See also: Not asked for.

See also: Internet access + a browser =/= "research."

You're welcome, Pollyanna.

And what happened to your #116...

Couldn't help yourself, could you?

No impulse control... Just like the Trump.

#130 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:00 PM | Reply

Truth,

"In the past 25 year what substantive laws has the republican party passed or promoted that benefits the poor and middle class?"

The Bush tax cuts helped lower-income earners, but didn't do much for the middle class.

Trump's reforms in his first term included temporary tax changes that benefited both the lower and middle class.

But I suspect what you're really asking about is free money for people who don't work.

Republicans don't tend to think that way. They generally oppose long-term federal welfare entitlements that don't involve work or a path toward employment.

The party's philosophy is that government run welfare shouldn't become a lifestyle of dependency for people able to work.

#131 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:03 PM | Reply

"Because (Republicans) didn't cause this."

Of course they did; who TF do you think repealed the mandate?

And are you so dumb you believe they didn't know what they were doing?!?

#132 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#132 GOPyers and people like the BJ post complete BS because they believe that everyone is as stupid and as gullible as THEY are.

#133 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:09 PM | Reply

#131 Welfare queens in their Cadillacs.

Can't you even begin to come up with some new material?

Really?

#134 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:10 PM | Reply

So, tax cuts for the wealthy with a small portion for the lower and middle class

Pretty much it

Nothing else, no policy, no laws, just tax cuts

Off the top of my head what Dems have done (in the face of complete obstruction by republicans)

ACA
Infrastructure
Chips Act
Same Sex Marriage
Gun Control
Consumer Fraud Prevent Bureau
Dodd-Frank

and that is just the top of my head

What similar things to Republicans offer?

Nothing.

#135 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:11 PM | Reply

"The Bush tax cuts helped lower-income earners"

WTF are you talking about?

When the second round of Dubya's tax code came up, Dubya remarked the wealthy sure were getting a lot of tax cuts, Dick Cheney replied We won the midterms; It's our due.
time.com

What "news" outlets are lying to you this time?

#136 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:12 PM | Reply

A,

What? You post personal attacks instead of providing information showing what I got wrong about my ACA summary post?

You said "100% of your self-important ------- was wrong" and then dropped it.

Instead, you make personal attacks.

Ok...I see what you are now. A troll.

I won't take you serious anymore.

I'll give you one day to come back with information or you're kill filed.

I love good information contrary to what some here say about me. I'm not looking for praise. I want challenges to dig into. And not just personal rants.

#137 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:14 PM | Reply

But I suspect what you're really asking about is free money for people who don't work.

No what I am talking about is what policies, programs, laws, do republicans push for and pass that benefits poor and middle class?

Education? Nope
Healthcare? Nope
Infrastructure? Nope
Guns? Nope
Science? Nope
Investment? Nope
Financial Protection? Nope

As far as I can tell, there is shutting down the border, which could be construed to protect jobs, I guess
There is stripping rights from minorities and women like trans care and choice
They don't even push for stuff like more cops on the street (except ICE of course)

I can think of nothing that republicans support and promote that benefits the poor and middle class

The last thing I can remember was No Child Left behind back in 2002

#138 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:15 PM | Reply

Also, Bill, the other night you posted a fact where 60% of taxpayers got a break under Trump 1.0.

You conflated that to mean they got 60% of the tax cuts.

Nothing could be further from the truth. American workers got roughly 15% of Trump 1.0, LESS THAN what foreign investors got.

Think of you getting $20 a week, while the billionaire gets a million dollars a week.

#139 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Dan,

"Dubya remarked the wealthy sure were getting a lot of tax cuts"

I never said the Bush tax cuts didn't benefit the wealthy.

That wasn't his question.

He asked, "what substantive laws has the republican party passed or promoted that benefits the poor and middle class"

#140 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:16 PM | Reply

#131 No long-term federal welfare entitlements that don't involve work or a path toward employment?

Someone you should really meet once said (about red state welfare): "Just build and maintain our roads and leave us alone."

Conveniently, you and they completely overlook these basic facts:

Ingratitude is a Cardinal Sin.

'Tis the people in rural areas who rely more on government services (local, county, state AND federal) as the cost for the equivalent that a private service provider would be prohibitively expensive, makes their government services in some cases their only way to receive it.

Rural electrification
the TVA
Broadband nationwide (in rural areas)
Government subsidies to farmers
Government subsidies to landowners
Water
Forest management
Hospitals and health care
Roads
Police

...and more.

So, just WTF are you rambling on about "federal welfare entitlements"?

You ungrateful and ignorant "BJ"

#141 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:18 PM | Reply

Dan,

I'll have to look into the 60% comment to see what I said or if I did say it.

You have a history of just point blank making up s---.

#142 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:19 PM | Reply

"He asked, "what substantive laws has the republican party passed or promoted that benefits the poor and middle class"

Well, borrowing $5 Trillion so you can get a hundred bucks doesn't benefit the poor and middle classes AT ALL.

Just like you borrowing $100,000 to burn it for warmth isn't really a benefit for you.

#143 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And the current president is all about tariffs and mass deportation. Nothing else.

You honestly think he even has a rudimentary concept for healthcare? for Education? for infrastructure? for AI? ---- we are losing such an opportunity in AI it is ridiculous, all because the republican party cannot govern.

He is extorting corporations, the press, higher education, gutting healthcare, gutting the federal government of decades worth of priceless experience in science, law enforcement, diplomacy, justice, etc.

Just today I read the president is giving corporations secret tax cuts.

He IS grabbing all the power unto himself. Congress has essentially quit.

#144 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:21 PM | Reply

#137 Personal attacks are your raison d'tre.

You are just too blind to see that, you Pollyannish, ignorant, naive and overall fool.

You're welcome, sweetheart.

Oh, and as for trolling... are you good for anything but trolling?

I certainly haven't seen it.

#145 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:22 PM | Reply

#142 A history of making up ---???

Well, you would certainly know about THAT.

Your lack of integrity is laid bare in your #116.

Or is it your lack of self-control?

#146 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:25 PM | Reply

"I'll have to look into the 60% comment to see what I said or if I did say it."

It was the AI stuff you posted; clearly you'd given it some garbage prompts. It even claimed the three items I mentioned (no tax on tips, overtime, and SS) were being "phased in" (they're not) and that none expired before Trump is slated to leave office (all expire three weeks before Jan 20, 2029).

It also made my point about tax cuts going to the wealthiest, as if I'd suggested otherwise.

Clearly we're dealing with GIGO.

#147 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:26 PM | Reply

I ask again, a simple question

In the past 25 years what has the republican party done, promoted, passed laws about, that benefit the poor and middle class?

Take the CFPB

A great program set up to protect individual citizens from financial fraud

Trump gutted the agency

Take Biden's airline fee program that reimbursed flyers automatic refunds

The Trump administration has scrapped a Biden-era proposal that would have required airlines to pay passengers cash compensation and provide services like lodging and meals for significant flight delays or cancellations caused by the airline

On Overdraft fees

A Biden-era rule to cap bank overdraft fees at $5 was overturned by the House of Representatives and signed into law by President Trump in 2025, meaning the cap will not take effect. The proposed rule aimed to save consumers billions annually, but opponents argued it would reduce banking services. The resolution overturning the rule passed the House and Senate and is now official.

Overtime pay

The "Biden overtime rule" was a rule finalized by the U.S. Department of Labor to expand overtime pay protections by raising the salary threshold for white-collar exempt employees from $35,568 to $58,656. The rule was blocked by a federal judge in November 2024 but has since been appealed by the Department of Labor. If it had taken effect, it would have made an estimated four million more workers eligible for overtime pay.

#148 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:28 PM | Reply

The list of programs dems promote for the poor and middle class is endless

The list of programs repubs promote for the middle class is non existent.

#149 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:28 PM | Reply

A,

"You ungrateful and ignorant BJ"

Many of the things you listed I see as government obligations we pay for via taxes and not really getting "free stuff".

We all pay for roads we'll never drive on and public schools even if we have no children.

Actually, I'm not real sure what you're driving at.

#150 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:30 PM | Reply

#137 You want "challenges you can dig into"?

WTF do you think this is?

The Algonquin Round Table?

As for "you're kill filed."

I haven't a clue what that is.

But it does sound promising.

Does it mean you no longer see my responses to your ludicrous responses... but everyone else can?

Cool.

I'd be up for that.

I ridicule you.

You fail to respond because I'm 'kill filed,' whatever that is, and can't see my response? But everyone else can?

Knock yourself out, "BJ."

Would NOT be my loss.


#151 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:34 PM | Reply

#150 Of course you can't.

#152 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:34 PM | Reply

Student debt relief
Menthol cigarette ban
Medical Debt on credit reports
Federal Worker minimum wage

Just a few more dem policies rescinded by republicans

#153 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

LOL

i asked google what programs republican promote to help poor and middle classes

I got back
tax cut and work requirements
LOL

www.google.com

#154 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:38 PM | Reply

Truth,

"list of programs repubs promote"

Should I assume you mean free stuff you can hold in your hand or deposit in your bank or are you also including intangibles like job programs, tax incentives for employers, and policies designed to help people find work and keep more of what they earn?

#155 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:40 PM | Reply

"Just a few more dem policies rescinded by republicans"

Don't forget the energy credits.

I'm just about to send out my end-of-year tax tips. This year's headline is DO ENERGY UPGRADES NOW!

The tax credits end on Dec 31st at midnight. The installations must be completed, and the check cleared by then.

#156 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:41 PM | Reply

Truth,

Free stuff isn't generally what you get from Republicans.

#157 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:43 PM | Reply

"Should I assume you mean free stuff you can hold in your hand or deposit in your bank"

Like Stimulus I, Stimulus II, and the PPP?

All given out by Trump, who also wanted a third stimulus 42% higher than Biden's $1400.

#158 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:44 PM | Reply

Truth,

This sort of thinking is why dems will find it hard to work with Trump and the Republicans about ACA.

Score keeping will not be part of the process, if it's to work.

#159 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:45 PM | Reply

#157 Trillion dollar tax cuts.

Billion dollar contracts to Elon and company.

But, no, no "free stuff" from the GOPyers... right "BJ"?

#160 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:45 PM | Reply

"Free stuff isn't generally what you get from Republicans."

Unless you're a corporation or a billionaire, then we borrow trillions to fund expiring tax cuts.

#161 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:46 PM | Reply

Dan,

Those all three were tied to COVID.

Really....I'm not into playing that game.

Like cooking a soup....you toss in the wierdest stuff.

Hmmm...beef stew...let's add some hay...they eat it.

#162 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-08 11:49 PM | Reply

#159 Oh, do tell us, Pollyanna... why would the "dems" find it hard to work with the Trump, who has publicly stated on multiple occasions that he "hates" Democrats and "cannot stand them"? His rhetoric frequently targets the Democratic party as a political opponent, often describing them as the "enemy from within" or more dangerous than foreign adversaries.

Knock us out with your infinite wisdom of "research" because you have an Internet connection and a browser.

Jump, "BJ," jump.

#163 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:49 PM | Reply

"Those all three were tied to COVID."

So giving money is bad, unless Republicans are doing it?!?

Are those goalposts heavy when you have to keep moving them???

#164 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-08 11:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#162 Soup or sausage.

Isn't making either one what legislation is all about?

Jesus on a popsicle stick... WTF are you going to actually going to go to bed, as you indicated hours ago?

#165 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-08 11:51 PM | Reply

Truth,
"list of programs repubs promote"
Should I assume you mean free stuff you can hold in your hand or deposit in your bank or are you also including intangibles like job programs, tax incentives for employers, and policies designed to help people find work and keep more of what they earn?

#155 | Posted by BillJohns

No, I mean exactly what I state, policies, laws and programs designed to help the middle and poor classes.

You say intangibles like "job programs" that is not an intangible. Republicans DO NOT PROMOTE that sort of thing, it is called job training, They don't. they REQUIRE welfare recipients to work (which is ridiculous as those that can do already) but there are not "job programs"

Can you point to actual programs, laws, actual things they push?

I know you are of limited intellect, but most of what I posted is not "free stuff", they are programs, policies and laws that benefit the poor and middle class

Example

the Consumer Fraud Protection Bureau PROTECTS poor and middle class consumers from being subject to fraud

the overdraft fees, the airline reimbursement policy, keeping medical debt off of credit scores are ACTUAL policies designed to help individuals, they are not fee handouts

I get it, it is hard to find equivalent policies pushed by republicans

#166 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:57 PM | Reply

Truth,
This sort of thinking is why dems will find it hard to work with Trump and the Republicans about ACA.
Score keeping will not be part of the process, if it's to work.

#159 | Posted by BillJohnson

LOL

Score keeping.

IOW don't shame republicans for not helping the poor and middle class.

#167 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-08 11:58 PM | Reply

The only thing that the Republican party gave us was

Headache

Heartache

Tummy ache

That's totally it.

#168 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-09 12:10 AM | Reply

#10 If ACA is a failure, then why are tens of millions of American citizens dependent upon it for their health?

Because those people cant provide for themselves.

Somewhere in the 60's, Democrats made government paying for everything for everyone a goal.

It's in the democrat plan.

#169 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-09 12:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Because those people cant provide for themselves."

Now do corporations who get tax cuts.

#170 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 12:57 AM | Reply

Bo@ss is one ------- ignorant fool.

#171 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-09 12:58 AM | Reply

"So giving money is bad, unless Republicans are doing it?!?"

Trump just suggested giving billions to people to buy health insurance.

Will you be against that, since it's not Covid, or FOR that, because it's Trump?

#172 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 01:19 AM | Reply

A,

"WTF are you going to actually going to go to bed, as you indicated hours ago?"

We ended up not sleeping.

I'm a night owl. Now I'm retired I keep odd hours.

The wife stayed in bed though.

#173 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 01:40 AM | Reply

Dan,

How many times do I have to say it?

Any health-care money giveaway programs, regardless whose name is on it or what its called, that don't get costs under control, will just be soaked up like a sponge and we'll repeat this cycle again and again.

Now that they've been warned cost controls are coming, the parasites in the system will only ramp up their appetite.

#174 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 01:53 AM | Reply

"Any health-care money giveaway programs, regardless whose name is on it or what its called, that don't get costs under control, will just be soaked up like a sponge and we'll repeat this cycle again and again."

What part of "insurance companies had to rebate excess profits until Republicans repealed that aspect" don't you understand???

"Now that they've been warned cost controls are coming"

Warned??? By whom? The guy who can't do percentages, or the guy who said "Nobody knew how complicated health care" was ... ?

Oh wait ... same guy.

#175 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 02:05 AM | Reply

"Any health-care money giveaway programs, regardless whose name is on it or what its called, that don't get costs under control, will just be soaked up like a sponge and we'll repeat this cycle again and again"

Then why not condemn Trump's latest suggestion of giving buyers billions?

You seem to change your views based on the letter after the name.

#176 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 02:07 AM | Reply

Dan,

Trump has indicated he wants price transparency in health care and prescription drugs.

He signed an executive order requiring hospitals, insurers, and drug companies to publish their actual negotiated costs and service prices.

The ACA has run its course. It's reached the point where it either needs another cash infusion or we take it off life support.

Let Congress create something new and better by collaboration.

Obamacare met a need for awhile.

Sort of like writing a program. You write the program as best you can. As bugs are found or new features are needed and added, the coding becomes a maze. It's similar to a town that adds more and more roads that curve ever which way with little thought to actually getting around.

Roads are hard to rebuild but software can be rewritten from ground up coding more efficiently and designing into the database the necessary fields and relationships to process additional information easily.

Sounds to me ACA ran its course, and is why the current extension came with an expiration date.

The time has come to build something new from the ground up with the tables, fields, and processes planned into the design. Not tagged on later as an afterthought.

The time is now.

Phoenix

#177 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:09 AM | Reply

"Trump has indicated he wants price transparency in health care and prescription drugs."

Trump said he was going to bring down Rx prices by "1,500%". The guy clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

Same goes for his supporters.

And Trump has been repeating the stupidity again and again, meaning Trump's staff is either as dumb as he is, or they're too afraid to tell their boss the truth.

Neither option is a good one.

#178 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:20 AM | Reply

Dan,

"Then why not condemn Trump's latest suggestion of giving buyers billions?"

He might be chattering and thinking out loud again.

If you hear the word "bleach" just disregard it.

#179 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:21 AM | Reply

"Let Congress create something new and better by collaboration."

That takes at least six months.

Especially when you don't even have the concept of a plan.

Trump promised it would come out in two weeks ... six years ago.

When will you start holding him responsible???

#180 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:23 AM | Reply

"He might be chattering and thinking out loud again."

Okay ...

... the chattering included the type of monetary giveaways you were condemning when you thought it was Democrats.

Why the double standards?

#181 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:25 AM | Reply

Dan,

Or Trump might be playing us.

Keep us talking about something absurd so we laugh at him and stop talking about something more important.

#182 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:27 AM | Reply

"Sort of like writing a program. You write the program as best you can. As bugs are found or new features are needed and added, the coding becomes a maze"

But that's not what Republicans did.

They REFUSED to make any of the corrections, EVER.

What happens to the computer program when the bugs aren't fixed? Oh wait ... that wouldn't make any sense at all, would it?

Moreover, it would be MORONIC if your co-workers refused to allow you to fix the known errors, and had a veto over YOU fixing it.

Republicans have created The Unaffordable Care Act.

Of course, it should probably be named the Frankly Unacceptable Care and Kindness Umbrella

... known by its acronym, of course.

#183 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:34 AM | Reply

"Or Trump might be playing us."

Trump's too stupid for that. And waaaaaay too transparent.

Just like his claim he'll reduce prescription prices by "a thousand percent".

He's not playing anybody. He's just that dumb.

#184 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:37 AM | Reply

Dan,

Of maybe Trump is throwing out a distraction from talking about the extension?

Worked...didn't it?

#185 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:37 AM | Reply

"Keep us talking about something absurd so we laugh at him"

I find very little humor regarding the need for the 25th amendment to be invoked.

But I guess cultists gotta cult.

#186 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:39 AM | Reply

"maybe Trump is throwing out a distraction from talking about the extension?"

You misspelled EPSTEIN FILES.

#187 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 03:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

Trump is dumb you say?

He managed to outwit years of attacks and become the President.

Playing the fool keeps people from seeing you as dangerous.

He's not clueless. He's calculating.

#188 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:44 AM | Reply

Dan,

"You misspelled EPSTEIN FILES."

What Epstein files?

I haven't heard a thing about his name on any lists.

#189 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 03:52 AM | Reply

"I haven't heard a thing about his name on any lists."

Huh?!?

What news outlets do you follow?

#190 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 04:13 AM | Reply

#188
"Calculating" and "dumb" are not mutually exclusive categories.
Toss in "ignoramus" and Bob's yer uncle, boyo.

#191 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-09 05:29 AM | Reply

Why are you defending a bunch of failures who cannot do the basic job of governance?

The GOP says the government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.

#192 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-09 08:28 AM | Reply

And the current president is all about tariffs and mass deportation. Nothing else

and interior decorating above all else.

#193 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-09 08:39 AM | Reply

Bill Johnson Suckles Trump's Johnson.

Quite the Fag.

I pity the "woman" he's married to.

Fags for Trump. Has a nice ring to it.

Billy boy should start a local branch.

Not that there's anyone wrong with that.

#194 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-11-09 08:57 AM | Reply

Its real and will continue until the government stops printing money, which means it has to stop spending. What you are asking is for the country to keep spending, and thus creating more DEBT. In the next thread you'll complain about Trumps $38Trillion in debt.

Americans have no idea what they are advocating, I suspect they are just economically illiterate given the ability to print USD has hidden them from reality..

#8 | Posted by oneironaut

Republicans have blown up the debt every time they've been in the WH since Reagan

When Bill Clinton left office, we'd run two years of surpluses and had $5.6 trillion total national debt while spending $1.6 trillion Clinton's last budget year.

During 8 years of Bush, Republicans blew that budget up and left us with $1.4 TRILLION ANNUAL deficits - doubling the budget AND the debt, and leaving us with systemic deficits for years to come.

Obama got that back down to $500b annual deficit, which Trump and Republicans - again, with unitary control - blew up to over a TRILLION a year in deficits like *that* the first year he was in office, and it's gotten worse with every year he and Republicans have held the reins of power.

Tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts and more and more and more debt. This is what you get from Republicans

#195 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-09 09:33 AM | Reply

American,

How do you respond to this statement?

"Clinton caught the dot.com boom. Bush inherited the bust."

#196 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 09:52 AM | Reply

#196 The Buck Stops Here a/k/a RESPONSIBILITY

#197 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 10:14 AM | Reply

#140 "what has a democrat done to help you"

- 19th Amendment | Women's right to vote

- Apollo 11 | First manned moon mission (and all of the value-added innovations)

- Social Security | Social insurance program

- Medicare | Health insurance for seniors

- NATO | North Atlantic Treaty Organization " the political and military alliance between the US, Canada and Europe

- Medicaid | Health care program for low income people

- Securities and Exchange Act Law | Oversee the trading of securities and protect investors

- Rural Electrification Act | Federal loans for the installation of electricity to serve rural areas

- Peace Corps | American volunteers promoting friendship, goodwill and peace around the world

- Unemployment Benefits | Temporary payments to the unemployed

- Fair Labor Standards Act | Ending the cruel practice of child labor

- Servicemen's Readjustment Act | The GI Bill, which has benefited millions of returning soldiers

- Federal Home Loan Program | Guaranteed loans that allowed millions of Americans to become homeowners

- National Industrial Recovery Act | 8 hour workday, minimum wage, paid overtime, and the right to collective bargaining

- National School Lunch Act | Free or low-cost meals for children who might otherwise go hungry

- 1965 Voting Rights Act | Prohibits discrimination in voting

- National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis | Forerunner of the March of Dimes

- Head Start Program | Comprehensive services for low income families

- 1964 Civil Rights Act | Prohibits discrimination and protects civil rights

- Marshall Plan European Recovery Act | Rebuilt a secure and peaceful Europe after World War II

- Financial Aid for Higher Education Loans | Guaranteed student loans that enabled over 50 million Americans to receive a college education

- Family and Medical Leave Act | Temporary unpaid leave and job protection to employees " for qualified medical and family reasons

- Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act | Protect workers against pay discrimination

- Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act | Health care reform: Preventive care screening, lower prescription drug costs, protection for pre-existing conditions among many other benefits

- American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 | Pandemic recovery, economic stimulus payments, free vaccines, funeral expense assistance, expanded child tax credits, block grants for schools, funds for small business and many other benefits

What have the GOPyers given us?

- a $37.000,000,000,000.00 debt

- free taxpayer money to the uber wealthy

You're welcome.

#198 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you hear the word "bleach" just disregard it.

#179 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

If I hear words coming from Trumpy's lying piehole I just disregard them.

All of them.

Nothing coming from Trumpy or his hateful minions can be trusted unless verified by at least two RELIABLE sources.

#199 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-09 10:21 AM | Reply

#196 "Clinton caught the dot.com boom. Bush inherited the bust."

If a Republican is president and the economy is booming, the Republican president is labeled an American hero.

If a Democrat is president and the economy is booming, it is because of the invisible hand of the marketplace.

You are so predictable, BJ.

No wonder your wife kicked you out of bed last night.

#200 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 10:29 AM | Reply

A,

"Women's right to vote"

But she doesn't have the right to privacy in the restroom or showers or fairness in sports.

You know that's weird....right?

#201 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 10:51 AM | Reply

A,

"No wonder your wife kicked you out of bed last night."

Never happens.

She luuuuuvvvves me long time.

#202 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 10:54 AM | Reply

A,

You left off Al Gore.

He created the Internet.

#203 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:01 AM | Reply

"You know that's weird....right?"

What's weird is folks pretending trans women don't just want to go into a stall and close the door.

What's also weird is folks pretending predatory men have to pretend to be trans to attack a woman.

That, and the fact there are more kids with measles in Texas than trans athletes in American sports.

#204 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But she doesn't have the right to privacy in the restroom or showers or fairness in sports.

They don't ? Perhaps you can be specific?

Regardless it's absurd to think women are going to be treated the same as men are in sports.

And do you seriously think they WANT to be treated the same as a man?

Also it's up to "sports" to solve these gender issues in sports as they arise in the competitions that they sponsor and profit from in order to keep them fair and equitable.

#205 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-09 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#203 Even your impotent trolling is antiquated. Al Gore? Really?

I'll give you one day to come back with information or you're kill filed.

I love good information contrary to what you say about me.

I'm not looking for praise.

I want challenges to dig into, not antiquated trolling memes.

You seem to be here for just personal rants and the insane crap you put out thinking you're so clever.

Find a dime, buy a clue:

You're not.

You are most welcome, sweetheart.

#206 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:18 AM | Reply

A_FRAUD,

You were serious and I was joking.

#207 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:22 AM | Reply

A_FRAUD,

You are serious and I am a joke.
#207 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

FTFY

#208 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-09 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hey Bill, Trump is suggesting giving out money:
currently.att.yahoo.com

Time to go on record against it. Remember how easy this was to condemn when you thought Democrats were doing it?

#209 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A_FRAUD,

"I'll give you one day to come back with information or you're kill filed."

1999 CNN interview, Al Gore said:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

I fulfilled my end. Now your turn.

#210 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:34 AM | Reply

#207 I was serious and you were joking?

Yep.

I was serious in my condemnation of your mental masturbation ravings "research" you post here.

And you were just joking posting said mental masturbation ravings "research" here.

That about sums it up nicely, the BJ.

#211 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:38 AM | Reply

Dan,

"Time to go on record against it. Remember how easy this was to condemn when you thought Democrats were doing it?"

Trump is talking about a tariff dividend.

I was talking about subsidizing health care.

Once again, you're adding hay to beef stew. After all cows eat it. Close enough.

#212 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:38 AM | Reply

#210 The phrase "Al Gore invented the internet" is a misquote and oversimplification of Al Gore's role in the internet's development; he actually said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet," which he meant in his capacity as a political leader who championed legislation supporting the internet's growth, such as the High Performance Computing Act of 1991.

While he did not invent the core technology, his legislative efforts helped fund research, expand access, and move the internet from a scientific network to a more public and commercial platform.

You were saying, BJ boi?

#213 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:39 AM | Reply

#212 There is no such thing as a "tariff dividend."

It falls into the exact same category as "recission veto."

Made up out of whole cloth.

You're welcome, BJ boi.

#214 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:44 AM | Reply

"Trump is talking about a tariff dividend. I was talking about subsidizing health care."

The tariff dividend was in direct response to the health insurance bills.

But keep making up reasons to carry water; it's a riot.

Just yesterday you were against it, when you thought it was Democrats.

Now you're scrambling for ANYTHING to avoid taking Responsibility.

#215 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#215 Is the BJ boi always this transparent?

#216 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:45 AM | Reply

#216

He's made of non-reflective glass.

#217 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-09 11:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#91 What do the "dems" have?

Glad you asked, BJ boi ...

- 19th Amendment | Women's right to vote

- Apollo 11 | First manned moon mission (and all of the value-added innovations)

- Social Security | Social insurance program

- Medicare | Health insurance for seniors

- NATO | North Atlantic Treaty Organization - the political and military alliance between the US, Canada and Europe

- Medicaid | Health care program for low income people

- Securities and Exchange Act Law | Oversee the trading of securities and protect investors

- Rural Electrification Act | Federal loans for the installation of electricity to serve rural areas

- Peace Corps | American volunteers promoting friendship, goodwill and peace around the world

- Unemployment Benefits | Temporary payments to the unemployed

- Fair Labor Standards Act | Ending the cruel practice of child labor

- Servicemen's Readjustment Act | The GI Bill, which has benefited millions of returning soldiers

- Federal Home Loan Program | Guaranteed loans that allowed millions of Americans to become homeowners

- National Industrial Recovery Act | 8 hour workday, minimum wage, paid overtime, and the right to collective bargaining

- National School Lunch Act | Free or low-cost meals for children who might otherwise go hungry

- 1965 Voting Rights Act | Prohibits discrimination in voting

- National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis | Forerunner of the March of Dimes

- Head Start Program | Comprehensive services for low income families

- 1964 Civil Rights Act | Prohibits discrimination and protects civil rights

- Marshall Plan European Recovery Act | Rebuilt a secure and peaceful Europe after World War II

- Financial Aid for Higher Education Loans | Guaranteed student loans that enabled over 50 million Americans to receive a college education

- Family and Medical Leave Act | Temporary unpaid leave and job protection to employees " for qualified medical and family reasons

- Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act | Protect workers against pay discrimination

- Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act | Health care reform: Preventive care screening, lower prescription drug costs, protection for pre-existing conditions among many other benefits

- American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 | Pandemic recovery, economic stimulus payments, free vaccines, funeral expense assistance, expanded child tax credits, block grants for schools, funds for small business and many other benefits

What do the GOPyers have?

- a $37.000,000,000,000.00 debt

- free taxpayer money to the uber wealthy

You're welcome.

#218 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:54 AM | Reply

A,

I said "create", not "invent".

#219 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:54 AM | Reply

#217 LOL!!!

#220 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:54 AM | Reply

#219 Lying by omission.

Tsk, tsk, BJ boi.

#221 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:55 AM | Reply

#219 'Tis just way too easy ...

The phrase "Al Gore created the internet" is a misinterpretation of his actual statement that he "took the initiative in creating the internet". It means he, as a politician, played a key role in promoting and supporting the development of the internet through legislative action, not that he was a primary inventor. Gore championed legislation that funded the expansion and modernization of networks, which helped transition them from academic and military uses to the commercial internet we have today.

#222 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 11:56 AM | Reply

A,

Read #203.

Are you and Dan the same poster?

He lies too.

#223 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 11:58 AM | Reply

Fags for Trump. Fags for Trump.

BJ Boi get on it...

Pronto.

#224 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-11-09 12:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"He lies too."

I notice you never double-checked what you posted the other night (60% getting a tax cut vs 60% of the money), like you said you would.

But here you are, calling me a liar rather than investigating whether you're misconstruing math or not.

IOW, your fault, but you're blaming me.

Sounds like SOP.

#225 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#233 Not that I've seen.

Meanwhile, your mental masturbation rantings "research" has clearly demonstrated your complete lack of integrity.

Perhaps you should just cool your jets for a while, BJ boi.

Your posts are rather unbecoming.

You're welcome, BJ boi.

#226 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 12:04 PM | Reply

Time to put it to rest and begin again.
#55 | Posted by BillJohnson

And what about the tens of millions of people that depend on ACA for health insurance?

Do they need to get "put to rest" too?

What is your specific plan to address their health insurance needs? Your plan is for them to simply go without health insurance.

You seem to be a sociopath, I wonder if you know that about yourself. It explains how you always view yourself as an outsider in society.

#227 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-09 12:12 PM | Reply

A,

I'm strictly talking about his words.

I'm well versed on the history of TCP/IP and networking technology.

Of course Gore didn't create the internet. I'm MCSE requiring I learned about DNS, DHCP, routing, protocols, network layers, Active Directory and so on. Gore was hardly part of designing this complicated technology.

I made a joke about Gore but you were serious and said to me, "100% of your self-important ------- was wrong". I decided you're a troll and will be killfiled unless you point out something wrong in my ACA summary I researched. You said 100% but I only want one small thing. I could probably do it myself if I dug in harder.

Got for it. I don't want to kill file you but if you're just here to troll, I will.

#228 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:19 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"And what about the tens of millions of people that depend on ACA for health insurance?"

I would suggest dem leadership take Trump serious and get going.

#229 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:21 PM | Reply

"Your plan is for them to simply go without health insurance."

Or food; their choice!

And because it's their choice, that's FREEDUMB!

#230 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 12:22 PM | Reply

I learned about DNS, DHCP, routing, protocols, network layers, Active Directory and so on.

This is why he knows mail-in ballots are bad. That, and plane crashes.

#231 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-09 12:22 PM | Reply

"I would suggest dem leadership take Trump serious and get going."

So get on board with handing out money? (Which you hate, unless a Republican is doing it)

Is that your answer, or do you prefer democracy?

#232 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-11-09 12:24 PM | Reply

- take Trump serious

Oh, Trump is a serious person; just ask the parents of kids and people going hungry and without health insurance in this country because he shoots first and never asks questions; never has a solution ready to replace what he's destroying.

Or you could ask the parents of the nearly half million children he's murdered just this year in other countries where he could have arranged for other nations and agencies to have time to make up the difference when he pulled US Aid... stiffing contractors who had already supplied food and medicine... but he just couldn't be bothered to care.

He's a vile and evil man, this POS you pander for.

#233 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-09 12:31 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I believe a stop gap bill is the logical next step.

6 months... no further extensions written into it.

#234 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:34 PM | Reply

"And what about the tens of millions of people that depend on ACA for health insurance?"
I would suggest dem leadership take Trump serious and get going.
#229 | Posted by BillJohnson

^
That doesn't answer the question.
"Take Trump serious" what is that even supposed to mean?

#235 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-09 12:34 PM | Reply

I believe a stop gap bill is the logical next step.
#234 | Posted by BillJohnson

Oh so you've done a complete 180 from

Time to put it to rest and begin again.
#55 | Posted by BillJohnson

When pushed, you always fold like a cheap suit.
You have no substance to back up any of your beliefs.

#236 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-09 12:35 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Stop gap will include cost control measures or no deal.

Immediately create a dedicated, bipartisan Task Force for the sole purpose of identifying costs. 90 days Task Force must publish a report.

This isn't that hard. Just get the ball rolling and everyone on board.

The goal isn't to repeal ACA, but instead to right the wrongs and fill the holes.

#237 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:46 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Give me time to think...sheesh.

#238 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:47 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Is that your answer, or do you prefer democracy?"

I prefer solutions.

#239 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:51 PM | Reply

Smoofy,

Don't get me wrong.

Ground up fixes where needed.

Not patches.

#240 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 12:55 PM | Reply

#237 Oooooo BJ boi demands that the stop gap will include cost control measures or no deal.

Alert the media!!

BJ boi DEMANDS the Democratic Party do as he commands.

End ACA NOW, then figure out a solution (while tens of millions of Americans go withOUT health care).

Oh, it might take 6 weeks.

It might even take 6 months.

Meanwhile, the American people should just STFU, hurry up and die, while it is "figured out" BY THE MINORITY PARTY supposedly working with the Trump who purposefully keeps Democrats in Congress in the dark. Ands, apparently, the MAJORITY PARTY is nowhere to be found in BJ boi's mouth.

But BJ boi DEMANDS: Cost controls or NO DEAL.

What an amazingly stupid person is this BJ boi.

Amazingly stupid.

#241 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 12:57 PM | Reply

- The goal isn't to repeal ACA

Of course it is... and to do so with no replacement plan, which is exactly what Trump and the Republicans are doing today.

The cruelty being the point.

#242 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-09 01:02 PM | Reply

#237: "The goal isn't to repeal ACA"

#177: "The time has come to build something new from the ground up with the tables, fields, and processes planned into the design. Not tagged on later as an afterthought. The time is now. Phoenix"

"The ACA has run its course. It's reached the point where it either needs another cash infusion or we take it off life support."

So which one is it, BJ boi: Not repeal ACA...

...or, as you said earlier, "build something new" AND "we take it (ACA) off of life support."

Which is it, BJ boi?

You know, BJ boi, if you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said.

#243 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 01:04 PM | Reply

"Trump administration orders states "undo" full SNAP benefits

"Pending any explicit direction to the contrary from Food and Nutrition Service (FNS), States must not transmit full benefit issuance files to EBT processors," a Saturday memo to state and regional directors instructed.

Rather, it instructed states to "continue to process and load the partial issuance files" detailed in previous guidance. It described any disbursement of "full SNAP payment files" as "unauthorized."

Failure to halt or claw back full benefits could result in the cancellation of the federal share of state administrative costs, among other actions, the memo read."

www.axios.com

And Trump didn't even invite hungry people to his Gatsby Party...

www.thedailybeast.com

#244 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-09 01:08 PM | Reply

A,

"as you said earlier, "build something new" AND "we take it (ACA) off of life support."

Hey...I'm being diplomatic here.

Don't blow my cover.

You're getting awfully close to sounding like a troll.

I think you don't know the difference, and that's unfortunate.

#245 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-09 01:17 PM | Reply

Hey...I'm being diplomatic here.
#245 | Posted by BillJohnson

No, you're being two-faced.
It's the defining feature of your life.
Like when you lied to Uncle Sam about being gay.

#246 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-09 01:19 PM | Reply

#177: "The time has come to build something new from the ground up with the tables, fields, and processes planned into the design. Not tagged on later as an afterthought. The time is now. Phoenix"

You do know the story of the Phoenix, don't you, BJ boi?

The phrase "phoenix rising from the ashes" symbolizes rebirth, renewal, and triumph over adversity, representing the ability to emerge stronger after a period of destruction or defeat.

The key phrase here: After a period of destruction or defeat.

Do you even stop to think (rhetorical) before posting? Obviously not.

Because, BJ boi, the ashes from which the Phoenix YOU WANT arises, IN YOUR FEVERED WETDREAM, those ashes are the millions of Americans dead due to a lack of affordable healthcare while Nero fiddles these unicorn politicians in your mind work together and build something new from the ground up with the tables, fields, and processes planned into the design. Which takes, what, 6 weeks (only in your dreams), 6 months (as the death toll mounts), or longer.

You're really a completely transparent a$$whole, wanting death and destruction of your fellow Americans, BJ boi.

Despicable, really.

Evil incarnate.

#247 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-09 01:22 PM | Reply

Immediately create a dedicated, bipartisan Task Force for the sole purpose of identifying costs.
#237 | Posted by BillJohnson

I can identify the costs right now.
Cigna, Aetna, UnitedHealth Group.
Health insurance companies have never treated a single patient.
They're unnecessary, redundant middlemen.

#248 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-09 01:22 PM | Reply

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