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White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed on Monday that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth authorized the second, follow-up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean...

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Hegseth's behavior reminds me of a scene in the most recent movie recounting the Battle of Midway.

A Japanese destroyer picks up two American airmen in a rubber raft. The captain of that ship subsequently tied one of the airmen to an anchor and murdered him by drowning.

Make you mad? Yeah, it did me.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-30 11:50 AM | Reply

Make you mad?

I never made it that far. One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Worse than Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor, which is saying something.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-30 12:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

How are these orders illegal?

Let us count the ways

1. War Powers Resolution
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

President Piggy has not received the required congressional law.

2. Drug Smuggling is NOT a capital offense.

3. There is evidence that the boats were human trafficking and not drug smuggling.

4. It is HIGHLY illegal to kill shipwrecked sailors-nazi U-boat commanders were prosecuted and put to death for this.

5. These unarmed ships posed zero threat to the US or its armed forces.

6. Venezuela is NOT a source of Fentanyl.

7. Drug smugglers are NOT terrorists.

8. The victims are civilians and, as such, are considered innocent.

9. The victims are unarmed.

10. We are not at war with Venezuela

etc.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-30 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

War Crime or Murder.

Not a lot of other options.

We report.

You decide.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-30 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Both.

Prosecute whichever gets em' the most Time.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-11-30 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2 | Posted by REDIAL

Is it a bunch of CGI crap devoid of any realism?

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 11:16 AM | Reply

Is it a bunch of CGI crap devoid of any realism?.

Yep. In one scene the US hero pilot in his Douglas SBD Dauntless fights his way through flak and fighters to attack a Japanese carrier. His single bomb hits exactly dead center in the red "meatball" on the deck and blows the ship to pieces.

In another daring attack, after shooting down few Japanese fighters with his legendarily agile dive bomber, he attacks a secret enemy airbase. This time, his single bomb destroys 2 runways, 6 enemy bombers just taking off, two hangars and fuel dump. Many, many big fireballs.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-01 11:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

I know it is pretty wild but if I remember correctly the Akagi was only hit with one bomb that exploded. The bomb pierced the flight deck and exploded on the hanger deck amidst scores of fueled armed torpedo bombers causing a catastrophic explosion. It is believed Richard Best was the pilot that hit her and he later that same day hit the Hiryu. A remarkable feat hitting and sinking 2 carriers in one day.

Can't speak to the attack though from what I recall the attacks on the atolls in early 42 were nothing more than pin ------.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 12:01 PM | Reply

I know it is pretty wild but if I remember correctly the Akagi was only hit with one bomb that exploded.

Was that when they got caught with their pants down trying to rearm planes from land to naval attack formations?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-01 12:46 PM | Reply

Hegseth Makes Fun of War Crimes With Twisted AI Children's Book Meme
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared a sick post of a children's book character as a war criminal.

newrepublic.com

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-01 02:58 PM | Reply

" It is HIGHLY illegal"

As opposed to what, lowly illegal? Mediumly illegal?

#11 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-01 04:18 PM | Reply

Murderers and war criminals don't get any attention if they're Repubicans. Better talk some more about how Biden is old, pronto, so we don't have to concern ourselves with the convicted felon and rapists in the White House!

Those Epstein files must really be something...

#12 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-12-01 04:40 PM | Reply

Yep... this whole thing can rightly be blamed on Biden's Autopen.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-01 04:48 PM | Reply

Hegseth never should have been confirmed. He definitely should have been fired when he shared active war plans in an unsecure chat. He should be fired immediately. Every senator who voted to confirm this unqualified drunk needs to be voted out of office. Trump should be impeached for directing war crimes.

#14 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-01 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Republicans still wondering what "illegal order" means.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-01 05:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is it "lawfare" to prosecute an obvious war criminal?

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-01 05:54 PM | Reply

#11 | Posted by sentinel

There are differences between misdemeanors and felonies, right?

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-12-01 05:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The term for a premeditated killing outside of armed conflict is murder, Finucane said, adding that U.S. military personnel could be prosecuted in American courts. Murder on the high seas is a crime. Conspiracy to commit murder outside of the United States is a crime. And under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 118 makes murder an offense."

Brian Finucane, a senior adviser with the International Crisis Group and a former State Department lawyer

#18 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-12-01 06:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hegseth never should have been confirmed. He definitely should have been fired when he shared active war plans in an unsecure chat. He should be fired immediately. Every senator who voted to confirm this unqualified drunk needs to be voted out of office. Trump should be impeached for directing war crimes.

#14 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-12-01 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag: You Said It

Below, US military veterans Josephine Guilbeau (Center) and Greg Stoker (Right) from Code Pink were physically carried out of the dipsomaniac's US Senate confirmation hearing, trying to stop his appointment. The much reviled Pete "Hic!" Hegseth had the most tumultuous and narrow confirmation in recent US history. The only other US Senate hearing that was as divisive and controversial was good-for-nothing SCOTUS Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who led a silver-spooned misogynistic, drunken life and career from Day One.

RFK Jr had no picnic either when he was idiotically confirmed to the Secretary of HHS.


#19 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-01 06:11 PM | Reply

"There are differences between misdemeanors and felonies, right?"

Are you suggesting one is less illegal than the other?

#20 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-01 06:13 PM | Reply

Are you stupid?

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-01 06:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Both Hegseth and the pilot who launched the missiles must be tried for murder. Period.

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-12-01 06:15 PM | Reply

Sentinel is gonna argue semantics about Misdemeanors vs Felonies, and highly vs whatever. What's next? Grammar Nazi?

"Randomly confrontational over nothing of value."

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-01 06:20 PM | Reply

Sentinel is one of the people here whose posts are not worth your time. Randomly confrontational over nothing of value.

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2025-11-29 06:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-01 06:21 PM | Reply

Are you suggesting one is less illegal than the other?

#20 | Posted by sentinel

I would say that there are things that are "more" illegal than others. Carrying out the initial strike might or might not be illegal. An argument could be made that it was illegal, but a decent argument could be made that it wasn't. I would not be in favor of the people who carried out the first strike being tried for murder, even if a court came to the conclusion it was an illegal order.

The second strike was very definitively, was "more", illegal. The people who carried out that strike should be tried and jailed for murder, as well as anyone who ordered it. Anyone who would order it or carry it out is scum and should be removed from society in order to protect said society.

#25 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-12-01 06:22 PM | Reply

I know it is pretty wild but if I remember correctly the Akagi was only hit with one bomb that exploded.
Was that when they got caught with their pants down trying to rearm planes from land to naval attack formations?

#9 | Posted by jpw

yeah, but there is debate about how actually out of timing they were. The Americans also lucked out with the --- cap being drawn low to fight torpedo bombers (which the ---anese thought was a greater threat-though American torpedo bombers decidedly were not-irony being ---anese torpedoes and torpedo bombers were far superior than Americans at this point in the war) So you had a situation where the ---anese were very sensitive to torpedoes because they were so good at them while downplaying the threat to dive bombers which they viewed as far less of a threat due to the difficulty of hitting a moving carrier. The first successful DB attacks on CVs was at Coral Sea

But yeah that was a rough 10 minutes for the ---anese.

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 06:32 PM | Reply

" It is HIGHLY illegal"
As opposed to what, lowly illegal? Mediumly illegal?

#11 | Posted by sentinel

Point being is that it is criminal enough in wartime but this regime can't even argue that justification

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 06:34 PM | Reply

Let us be clear

Every
Single
Bomb
Dropped
or
Missile
Fired
is
ILLEGAL

Full Stop

Even by their OWN standards every attack is illegal.

They want it to be an armed conflict?

They had 60 days to get authorization

They did not

it is not even close

EVERYONE in the chain-of-command, from Hegseth to the man or woman pulling the trigger, should be prosecuted

And President Piggy should be impeached.

Immediately

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 06:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Smuggling drugs and/or refugees is less illegal than murdering people for these non-capital offenses, yes.

Nothing is illegal if Repubicans do it, though, as we can see from the "Law and order Party" on a daily basis.

#29 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-12-01 06:50 PM | Reply

So what? Do people not realize accountable representative democracy has been toppled and the rule of law is dead? In a dictatorship the only thing that will get the administration members is trouble is going against the dictator.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-12-01 07:08 PM | Reply

Just a reminder that President Piggy promised to pardon a major drug kingpin.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 07:17 PM | Reply

We know gave the command. The CIC, or the Criminal in charge, of course.

But it looks like it's gonna be Whiskey Pete will be the one who has to fall on his sword for the Mad King.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-01 07:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Coherent Policy....?

#33 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-12-01 07:22 PM | Reply

Trump can just pardon whomever he throws under the bus, it's not a state crime.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-01 07:47 PM | Reply

DB-I was going to post "is this the White house throwing him under the bus?" but you put it way more eloquently!

#35 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-12-01 07:50 PM | Reply

This is winning??

What Hegseth's Mom and 3rd wife had to say:

www.youtube.com

yt short

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-01 07:52 PM | Reply

Trump pardoned Ross Ulbricht too.

#37 | Posted by pirate at 2025-12-01 08:01 PM | Reply

Oi veh I forgot all about gaza!
Mission Accomplished!

#38 | Posted by sit_goodboy at 2025-12-01 08:05 PM | Reply

Trump can just pardon whomever he throws under the bus, it's not a state crime.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite

Seems like the system has a problem imbedded in it.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 08:24 PM | Reply

I can hardly wait for the buck-passing at the White House to begin.

Trump has already adopted the Sgt. Schultz "I know nothing" defense.

#40 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-12-01 09:10 PM | Reply

Pickled Pete hurls Admiral under the bus.

www.rawstory.com

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-01 09:16 PM | Reply

"Let's make one thing crystal clear: That guy over there is the guy you want."

LOL

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-01 09:23 PM | Reply

"I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made..."

Combat?

What was the fishing boat attacking the Navy with?

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-01 09:27 PM | Reply

Heavy Oars.

#44 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-01 09:27 PM | Reply

"Are you suggesting one is less illegal than the other?"

It's like suggesting jaywalking is less illegal than drunk driving.
Who ever heard of such a thing!

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-01 09:49 PM | Reply

I'm getting the impression that Admiral Bradley better keep his mouth shut or there'll be NO pardon for him.

How sad. This is no way to end a military career.

#46 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-12-01 09:50 PM | Reply

The new Nuremberg trials won't care who got thrown under the bus, the new Nuremberg trials will prosecute all of the murderous scumbag rapists in the White House and elsewhere who did this.

#47 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-12-01 10:21 PM | Reply

This is no way to end a military career.

Admiral Bradly graduated from SEAL school about the same time Ivana divorced Lewzer and he started hanging out with Epstein.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-01 10:43 PM | Reply

REDIAL

"Admiral Bradly graduated from SEAL school."

All the harder to understand why someone with Bradley's storied career would obey an illegal order. He had to know. He also had to know that Hegseth was a complete duffus.

Did they both buy into the silly notion that Trump had their back?

#49 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-12-02 02:14 AM | Reply

All the harder to understand why someone with Bradley's storied career would obey an illegal order.

True enough. Maybe he thought it was going to be a covert action no one would every hear about. That would have been easy to do.

#50 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-02 02:20 AM | Reply

REDIAL

I'm more inclined to believe that Bradley thought he would be fired.

I hope Hegseth's and Trump's sordid history of firing generals and admirals comes up in court.

Not as a defense but rather a motive.

#51 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-12-02 04:11 AM | Reply

"In June 2025, the House overwhelmingly torpedoed an effort by Rep. Al Green (D-TX) to impeach President Dummkopf Trumpf over the US strikes on Iran, underscoring how little appetite Democrats have to try and oust the president despite their frustration with the weekend attack. The chamber voted 344-79 to table Green's resolution, which charges Trumpf with abuse of power. One hundred-twenty eight Democrats, including the caucus's top three leaders, voted with Republicans to table the measure, while 79 Democrats voted against the effort, pushing for the chamber to hold a vote on the resolution. Green for months has sought to trigger a vote on impeaching Trumpf, slamming his handling of both foreign and domestic policy issues. Congressman Green had reupped that effort, filing and forcing a vote on a resolution accusing Trumpf of failing to seek authorization from Congress before striking three sites in Iran over the weekend, which Democrats have taken issue with."

Source: Trumpf Bombing Iran in Jun 2025 Was OK With 128 Democrats

Gosh, are these the same 128 Democrats that are terribly upset today with Dummkopf Trumpf illegally bombing Venezuelans?


#52 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-02 05:36 AM | Reply

#52:

"Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-MI) is considering introducing articles of impeachment against US Secretary of War Crimes Pete "Hic!" Hegseth over reports the misogynistic racist dipsomaniac authorized a second strike on a purported drug boat containing defenseless people in the Caribbean Sea.

Thanedar could once again find himself in conflict with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), who dismissed the prospect of impeachment during a press conference on Monday."

Why are House Democrats not acting against Dummkopf Trumpf or his junta?

Source: archive.ph

#53 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-02 05:45 AM | Reply

TV tumor Megyn Kelly thinks obliterating the surviving Venezuelans with an IDF-style double-tap went a bit too far. Ms Kelly preferred that the Venezuelans be made to suffer some in their death throes.

"I would like Trumpf and Hegseth to make it last a long time so they lose a limb and bleed out."

That's just good wholesome Christian fellowship, charity, and benevolence, ain't it?

Link: x.com

#54 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-02 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Something is either illegal or it isn't. Just because there are different classifications of illegal things with more severe penalties doesn't make them more illegal or less illegal.

#55 | Posted by sentinel at 2025-12-02 09:05 AM | Reply

If Trump & his ilk truly care about lawless drug cartels flooding the U.S. with drugs, why did Trump just pardon a convicted U.S, drug smuggler?

Why Is President Trump Pardoning a Notorious Convicted Drug Trafficker?

December 1, 2025 9:51 AM

Back in November 2018, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency arrested Juan Antonio Hernndez, the brother of Honduras's President Juan Orlando Hernndez, in Miami, accusing him of being involved in "large-scale" drug trafficking into the U.S. for more than a decade. The prosecution was directed by then-U.S. attorney Geoffrey Berman, who had been appointed to his position by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Berman volunteered for Trump's 2016 campaign and later for his transition committee.

During the trial, it became clear that Juan Antonio Hernndez's illegal smuggling of drugs into the U.S. was heavily facilitated by the resources of the Honduran government, headed by his brother.

www.nationalreview.com

#56 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-12-02 09:19 AM | Reply

"a purported drug boat containing defenseless people in the Caribbean Sea."

defenseless?

A boat containing 1,000 kilos of cocaine headed for the US accompanied by armed drug runners is "defenseless" against whatever we shoot at them, aren't they?

why make the argument someone is "defenseless" when they're all defenseless?

have a pistol or some other weapon on their person in the middle of the ocean matters?

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 09:31 AM | Reply

#37

As well he should have. That sentence was egregious. Ulbricht may not be the best person ever, but he didn't deserve that. A pardon was completely appropriate.

#58 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-12-02 09:53 AM | Reply

#57 An outboard motor boat with 1,000# of cocaine, traveling from Venezuela to Miami, would need to refuel 20+ times along the way.

#59 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-02 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) stepped up his war of words against Secretary of War Crimes Pete Hegseth, calling him a "12-year-old playing army," during a press conference on Monday.

Mark Kelly was a USN CAPT and outranked US Army Natl Guard Major Pete Hegseth by two ranks. Hegseth as a DC National Guardsman was barred from serving on duty at the inauguration of Joe Biden after being flagged as an "insider threat" because of his strange gang-like tattoos.

Source: www.washingtonexaminer.com

#60 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-12-02 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"defenseless?"

Yes. Defenselessly clinging to debris from their blown up boat in freezing waters and probably barely alive.

Even if they still had a machine gun they were essentially defenseless against the might of the US Navy.

What a tard you have become.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-02 10:25 AM | Reply

61

So you admit you understand that both the guy clinging to debris and the guy with a machine gun in a good boat are equally defenseless?

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 10:30 AM | Reply

I'm not arguing the legality of these killings.

Is the Caribbean "freezing"?

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 10:34 AM | Reply

America quakes in it's boots at a poverty stricken Venezuelan clinging to some pieces of wood in the middle of the Caribbean. Need to drop a 1,000 ton bomb on him.

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-02 10:34 AM | Reply

"a poverty stricken Venezuelan"

You have his tax return? Do you even have his name?

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 10:36 AM | Reply

seatemperature.info

point to the freezing water, Boazboy?

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 10:39 AM | Reply

I have to run for a while......I have to go screw a customer over.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2025-12-02 10:40 AM | Reply

As well he should have. That sentence was egregious. Ulbricht may not be the best person ever, but he didn't deserve that. A pardon was completely appropriate.

#58 | POSTED BY DARKVADER

The sentencing judge, Katherine Forrest, stated the severe sentence was intended to send a clear message to anyone who might consider operating a similar illegal online enterprise, emphasizing that "no one is above the law, no matter the education or the privileges".

This is America Where we believe all Men are created equal. Some are just more equal than others.

#68 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-02 10:42 AM | Reply

But yeah that was a rough 10 minutes for the ---anese.

LOL on the censor

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-12-02 10:46 AM | Reply

Is the Caribbean "freezing"?

#63 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Probably should have checked first, huh?

Can you Google that for me? Thanks!

Oh you did? So you CAN use Google when you want to.

Thanks tard.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-02 10:46 AM | Reply

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