Zed,

"I wonder."

I agree 100% they would be alive if they had not needlessly chosen to challenge ICE.

They weren't even targets or who ICE was seeking, but inserted themselves into the situation.

Laura,

"Protesting in the streets shouldn't get one murdered. Just sayin"

Look at the situation without your tinted glasses.

They both went far beyond protesting.

She parked her car sideways in the street blocking ICE.

He saw himself as a savior/leader or something. He jumped in the middle of something that didn't involve him.

Maybe for his sake he should have thought twice about physically challenging an ICE agent who is armed.

What really got him killed though was his bringing a firearm to this protest.

That was a foolish thing to do.

Both of them were killed as a result of their own actions.

Take off the tinted glasses and see it.

Jpw,

Same to you as Laura.

Stop viewing everything from some fairy tale world of make believe that can not exist.

Dan,

And people accuse me of bringing mail-in ballots into the conversation.

John,

You simply can't equate these things you mentioned.

ICE is after people who are here illegally.

You can equate illegals with civil rights or the revolutionary war if you want. It's a dumb comparison.

This issue has been a long time coming. Too bad someone didn't address it decades but everyone loved the cheap labor.

Dan,

I can't believe you posted with invoking the Bible.

I'm sure that's coming soon.

Dan,

Stricter voting control is coming.

It will happen eventually.

Dan,

"Based on a court?"

Based on their lack of credentials and not in any list proving them to be legal Americans.

Court isn't necessary and would be absurd and you know it.

Laura,

At no point did I ever say anything "justified" their deaths.

They did contribute to their own deaths though.

Fact.

Laura,

In this case, I suppose that's how it works.

I'm not a lawyer.

But illegals have an unfortunate problem.

I have said America should develop a fast track to citizenship for well vetted people.

One,

"recall Lumpers jumping for joy"

I don't.

Dan,

Any posts from you are full of lies.

You're not even worth the time to respond anymore.

Always making up stuff.

Eff,

"Alex Pretti had every legal right to have that gun on his person."

I never said he was wrong for bringing a gun.

I said it was foolish to bring it to such a setting.

John,

I checked into it. The 90% doesn't apply to all ICE detentions.

Judges have determined ICE has acted in excess of their authority though.

I said before I believe ICE did need to be reigned in.

I have also said in the past that those 2 particular deaths, they did accomplish what they wanted to do with their deaths.

The word martyr would apply, I guess.

I have no more to say here.

Dan,

"By my count, that's the 23rd time you've stated as much."

And I'm sure you earned every one of them.

Dan,

So it lying and you do a lot of that.

They contributed to their deaths.

It was their excessive actions that put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Fact.

Eff,

"Freedom of Conscience, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Protest"

Let's not talk about suppressing freedoms.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

John,

They have my sympathy. Really they do. I know of people in terrible situations.

I'd like to see a fast track for friends I know who deserve it.

Some illegals have a bad past and should be found and sent packing.

Who is going to do it?

Local law enforcement?

The military?

Or just left to hurt people?

This is way too complex for me to have opinions.

However, suggesting that millions of people should go through the courts is a deliberate tactic to create havoc and stall getting people out who need to be gone.

If they are not here legally, I personally have no issue with their facing the consequences.

That's something liberals have lost sight of.

Clown,

"prayers for dead school children"

I doubt you prayed for them.

Eff,

You mentioned specific freedoms. There are many freedoms we are guaranteed.

You veered off the path of simply talking about ICE.

Liberals have been hammering at our freedoms for years.

Eff,

"If ICE can Terrorize "Illegals", and Murder Citizens who Complain with Impunity, nobody is safe if they get on the Government Radar.
Including YOU, BJ Boi."

Yuk.....extrapolating to absurd conclusions and actually discussing problems-that-don't-exist is one of the most tiring deflections.

John,

It does sound terrible.

Zed,

Actually....if my posts are similar to someone else's words, that's pure coincidence.

Dan,

"Police in both situations violated basic protocols"

I would say that's true.

Don't kill people who aren't trying to kill you.

Zed,

I said I agreed ICE needed reigned in.

That would include clearer policies and dealing with hostile protesters.

You likely think the solution is to abolish ICE.

Red,

First off, anything that starts with someone elses name isn't my concern. I dont think you quite grasp how I read information but avoid commentary and political speeches and most videos. I'm old school and prefer reading.

It is pure coincidence if my words are similar to anyone elses.

Snoofy,

"These millions of illegal immigrants aren't criminals."

You probably think men can have babies too.

Strange times we're living in.

Snoofy,

"You understand criminal only happens when there's a crime?"

Going over borders without being there legally is a crime.

A crime is unlawful activity.

Db,

If you live long enough.