What's over exactly?

I think a little more clarity is needed.

Entirely too ambiguous to be taken serious as a question and not just a rhetorical question or even trolling.

Zed,

"Where is the argument?"

That's essentially what I meant.

What in particular does he believe should be over?

Surely he isn't suggesting all or nothing.

Nixon,

"There were still Japanese soldiers living in caves in the pacific decades after the war was over and refused to accept that Japan surrendered. They are that level of insane."

After the Japanese lost, they were forced to renounce their Emporer is God.

Iran has a somewhat similar structure in that political and religious authority are intertwined.

The zealotry of Iran's theocratic regime stems partly from its belief that it is acting and fighting in service to Allah.

Unless we can convince them their God is not real (fat chance) Trump has the problem of accomplishing his objectives but leaving their religious beliefs intact.

Lamp,

Can't answer your question about a timeline without knowing what you're talking about.

Or were you just being snarky.

Lamp,

I think the problem is some people are trying to comprehend this war but have very limited knowledge.

You just don't have all the information to understand the big picture.

Frankly you probably don't want to know.

Alex,

He's leaving office soon enough.

Why be snarky?

He's not an Emporer.

Alex,

Truly, I'm not a "MAGA," whatever that is and yes, I own a MAGA hat.

Before I retired, I had a life-size cardboard Trump standing against the wall in my office. I bought it during his first term as a conversation piece.

But do you honestly believe I approve of Trump's lifestyle? Do you believe he reflects my personal values, especially after everything I've posted here over the years?

All this "pedo" nonsense people posting one accusation after another is nothing more than an attempt to insult me by association.

I don't really care, but I hope it's all just part of the game. "You bought a Trump Bible ha ha."

How could anyone who knows my beliefs think I approve of the way Trump has lived?

I voted for the Republican candidate, who happened to be Trump.

Today, politically, I'm glad to see him taking on Iran. It's about d time someone did.

There is far more going on and far more at stake than what is immediately obvious or can be reduced to nuclear weapons, although I completely agree that those are a serious concern.

You have to compartmentalize politicians. Supporting someone politically does not mean embracing his character, lifestyle, or every decision he makes.

That doesn't mean I dislike everything about Trump either. I don't.

He is a smart man.

That's all I'll say.

Alex,

"why did he make a bunch of trump 2028 hats?"

Maybe because people will buy them?

Dan,

"You're buying his merchandise (everything from a hat to a Bible), putting up a life-sized figure, and supporting him in words and deeds with every post."

If you continue to speak like that, I'll start believing you mean it, instead of just part of the banter.

If you can't separate personal from political personas, I pity you.

Db,

You mean other "smart men"?

Db,

I voted for Obama twice.

I think he's smart.

I didn't like Romney or McCain.

Db,

Steve Jobs was smart and I don't use any Apple stuff.

From the very beginning Jobs setup Apple to be proprietary (a closed eco system) and effectively a cult.

He counts on people buying in and getting locked in for life.

But he was smart.

Db,

I figure most rich and powerful men are shameless in how they conduct their lives.

It's just an assumption I make based on what I've observed working with powerful men.

Not all, but most have likely dipped their wick in someone else's well.

Db,

yes...sometimes

Db,

Or maybe I just have a pretty negative view of the human race.

time to work outside...again...

Donner,

"Or maybe you are just not a very nice person."

In that case, it's a good thing I'm a Christian and have been saved.

Are you?

Db,

That's something Dan would say.

I list 2 people so thats all the smart people I can think of?

Db,

Probably what my parents believe.

I was blessed to have a mother who indoctrinated me into the arms of Jesus and a wife with similar beliefs.

Db,

"Do you have a thing for cult leaders?"

Absolutely not.

I am extremely independent in my thinking.

I don't follow anyone or any groups.

After being exposed to information
I form my own opinions which I sometimes change.

I have a hard time comitting to absolute beliefs and opinions.

Quite often if you read my posts I'm suggesting a question wanting opinions.

But people take it that I'm making a statement.

Db,

My career fit my personality.

Dan,

I would put up one of a real space alien if it was available.

That is intriguing.

Snoofy,

"You regret voting for Obama."

I do??

Snoofy,

The first time I voted for Trump was because I didn't want Hillary to have a chance to nominate Supreme Court justices.

There was 3 replacements coming up.

A liberal nominating 3 seats would be bad for America.

The second time I voted for Trump was because liberals had completely lost their minds by that time.

I just don't know what has happened to them. I have some opinions. None good.

Db,

I don't sit around comparing my religion to others to justify my beliefs.

And atheists I actually feel sorry for.

Db,

I taught college mixed in with my day job.

That might be the personality what you see from me on here sometimes.

Db,

"Atheism is just another form of faith to me."

I agree.

Atheism has functionally become an organized religion.