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Wednesday, September 10, 2025

Charlie Kirk, a close ally of President Trump and the founder of the nation's pre-eminent right-wing youth activist organization, was fatally shot on Wednesday while speaking at a campus event at Utah Valley University, his spokesman Andrew Kolvet said. Law enforcement officials are still looking for the shooter

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" "Barrack the magic negro"?"

My recollection is LA Times first coined the term then Rush Likbaugh's team creat d a song based on Purf the Magic Dragon using that term. It was to make fun of yet another media outlet engaging in Obama worship.

#751 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-11 12:00 PM | Reply

#736 | Posted by boaz

Neither Obama or Biden governed like a third to half of the country were the enemy. That is indisputable. Both regularly used conciliatory and uniting language. Biden bent over backwards to invest in red states and red areas.

Trump objectively does not. He regularly demonizes anyone who disagrees with him, he is attacking blue areas, he is obviously intentionally trying to divide us.

You are objectively wrong to say Obama and Biden did not act like your president. You can disagree, even strongly with what they accomplished or attempted to accomplished, but they were enacting a vision that they viewed would benefit ALL Americans, again, like Biden sending the vast majority of CHIPS Act and Infrastructure investments to red areas. That is a fact. Trump does not do that, at all, in fact is actively attacking blue areas and moderate to left wing institutions. That also is a fact.

Please stop being pedantic about terminology, you know what I mean, Republicans have, for decades, been trying to use methods that disenfranchise whole swaths of people, yes Dems do it, but to a FAR less degree and certainly far less effectively. That does not make either right, but an actual reality to deal with.

Boaz, your recommendation is wholly impossible to implement. This is NOT the mid 19th century where political beliefs can generally be divided along regional lines. Yes conservatives are likely the majority in many states as are liberals in many states, but there are literally MILLIONS of conservatives in blue states and vice versa. You are advocating for essentially a permanent second class citizenship for millions of people. Either that or a disruption on a massive scale as millions of people flee from state to state. Simply a bad idea.

#752 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#736 | Posted by boaz

Neither Obama or Biden governed like a third to half of the country were the enemy. That is indisputable. Both regularly used conciliatory and uniting language. Biden bent over backwards to invest in red states and red areas.

Trump objectively does not. He regularly demonizes anyone who disagrees with him, he is attacking blue areas, he is obviously intentionally trying to divide us.

You are objectively wrong to say Obama and Biden did not act like your president. You can disagree, even strongly with what they accomplished or attempted to accomplished, but they were enacting a vision that they viewed would benefit ALL Americans, again, like Biden sending the vast majority of CHIPS Act and Infrastructure investments to red areas. That is a fact. Trump does not do that, at all, in fact is actively attacking blue areas and moderate to left wing institutions. That also is a fact.

Please stop being pedantic about terminology, you know what I mean, Republicans have, for decades, been trying to use methods that disenfranchise whole swaths of people, yes Dems do it, but to a FAR less degree and certainly far less effectively. That does not make either right, but an actual reality to deal with.

Boaz, your recommendation is wholly impossible to implement. This is NOT the mid 19th century where political beliefs can generally be divided along regional lines. Yes conservatives are likely the majority in many states as are liberals in many states, but there are literally MILLIONS of conservatives in blue states and vice versa. You are advocating for essentially a permanent second class citizenship for millions of people. Either that or a disruption on a massive scale as millions of people flee from state to state. Simply a bad idea.

#753 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Both sides" don't elect a known traitor, rapist, fraud, liar, and Wingman to a Child Prostitution Ringleader to the office of the Presidency.

Only one side does that.

#754 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 12:02 PM | Reply

#736 | Posted by boaz

Neither Obama or Biden governed like a third to half of the country were the enemy. That is indisputable. Both regularly used conciliatory and uniting language. Biden bent over backwards to invest in red states and red areas.

Trump objectively does not. He regularly demonizes anyone who disagrees with him, he is attacking blue areas, he is obviously intentionally trying to divide us.

You are objectively wrong to say Obama and Biden did not act like your president. You can disagree, even strongly with what they accomplished or attempted to accomplished, but they were enacting a vision that they viewed would benefit ALL Americans, again, like Biden sending the vast majority of CHIPS Act and Infrastructure investments to red areas. That is a fact. Trump does not do that, at all, in fact is actively attacking blue areas and moderate to left wing institutions. That also is a fact.

Please stop being pedantic about terminology, you know what I mean, Republicans have, for decades, been trying to use methods that disenfranchise whole swaths of people, yes Dems do it, but to a FAR less degree and certainly far less effectively. That does not make either right, but an actual reality to deal with.

Boaz, your recommendation is wholly impossible to implement. This is NOT the mid 19th century where political beliefs can generally be divided along regional lines. Yes conservatives are likely the majority in many states as are liberals in many states, but there are literally MILLIONS of conservatives in blue states and vice versa. You are advocating for essentially a permanent second class citizenship for millions of people. Either that or a disruption on a massive scale as millions of people flee from state to state. Simply a bad idea.

#755 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#736 | Posted by boaz

Neither Obama or Biden governed like a third to half of the country were the enemy. That is indisputable. Both regularly used conciliatory and uniting language. Biden bent over backwards to invest in red states and red areas.

Trump objectively does not. He regularly demonizes anyone who disagrees with him, he is attacking blue areas, he is obviously intentionally trying to divide us.

You are objectively wrong to say Obama and Biden did not act like your president. You can disagree, even strongly with what they accomplished or attempted to accomplished, but they were enacting a vision that they viewed would benefit ALL Americans, again, like Biden sending the vast majority of CHIPS Act and Infrastructure investments to red areas. That is a fact. Trump does not do that, at all, in fact is actively attacking blue areas and moderate to left wing institutions. That also is a fact.

Please stop being pedantic about terminology, you know what I mean, Republicans have, for decades, been trying to use methods that disenfranchise whole swaths of people, yes Dems do it, but to a FAR less degree and certainly far less effectively. That does not make either right, but an actual reality to deal with.

Boaz, your recommendation is wholly impossible to implement. This is NOT the mid 19th century where political beliefs can generally be divided along regional lines. Yes conservatives are likely the majority in many states as are liberals in many states, but there are literally MILLIONS of conservatives in blue states and vice versa. You are advocating for essentially a permanent second class citizenship for millions of people. Either that or a disruption on a massive scale as millions of people flee from state to state. Simply a bad idea.

#756 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:03 PM | Reply

#736 | Posted by boaz

Neither Obama or Biden governed like a third to half of the country were the enemy. That is indisputable. Both regularly used conciliatory and uniting language. Biden bent over backwards to invest in red states and red areas.

Trump objectively does not. He regularly demonizes anyone who disagrees with him, he is attacking blue areas, he is obviously intentionally trying to divide us.

You are objectively wrong to say Obama and Biden did not act like your president. You can disagree, even strongly with what they accomplished or attempted to accomplished, but they were enacting a vision that they viewed would benefit ALL Americans, again, like Biden sending the vast majority of CHIPS Act and Infrastructure investments to red areas. That is a fact. Trump does not do that, at all, in fact is actively attacking blue areas and moderate to left wing institutions. That also is a fact.

Please stop being pedantic about terminology, you know what I mean, Republicans have, for decades, been trying to use methods that disenfranchise whole swaths of people, yes Dems do it, but to a FAR less degree and certainly far less effectively. That does not make either right, but an actual reality to deal with.

Boaz, your recommendation is wholly impossible to implement. This is NOT the mid 19th century where political beliefs can generally be divided along regional lines. Yes conservatives are likely the majority in many states as are liberals in many states, but there are literally MILLIONS of conservatives in blue states and vice versa. You are advocating for essentially a permanent second class citizenship for millions of people. Either that or a disruption on a massive scale as millions of people flee from state to state. Simply a bad idea.

#757 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:03 PM | Reply

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#758 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 12:03 PM | Reply

"Both sides" don't elect a known traitor, rapist, fraud, liar, and Wingman to a Child Prostitution Ringleader to the office of the Presidency.

Only one side does that.

#759 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 12:04 PM | Reply

"Both sides"... don't elect a known traitor, rapist, fraud, liar, and Wingman to a Child Prostitution Ringleader to the highest office in the land.

Only one side does that.

#760 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 12:08 PM | Reply

My other choice was Kamala Harris. I could have voted 3rd party like I did in 2016,but when I saw disastrous the Biden administration was knowing Harris would be more of the same and possibly worse, I held my nose and voted Trump.

#749 | Posted by BellRinger

Next time, just save us the time and say "I'm an idiot."

#761 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 12:08 PM | Reply

Did we max out the thread?

#762 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 12:09 PM | Reply

" You need to leave us alone, and we need to leave you alone."

We can start by ending the $10 Billion/yr taker status of North Carolina.

Will you be returning this year's $10 billion as well?

#763 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-11 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#762

yeah apparently it maxed out at 750 and started again... which is why I have 3 of the same posts made; they didn't show up after 750

#764 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 12:14 PM | Reply

Let's see

bitter clingers - Obama
Deplorables - Hillary
MAGA Republicans are fascists - Biden

These comments were directed at millions of people.

#765 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-11 12:15 PM | Reply

The FBI has released a photo of the suspect and is asking for the public's help to identify him. www.bbc.com

#766 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-11 12:16 PM | Reply

743 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 11:32 AM | Reply

Per those earlier posts on ar and .223

AR comes in way more than .223 and it was too loud to be one from 200yds. That was my initial impression. It sounded like hunting rifle not a carbine. It was a scoped 30 ought six which has been A pretty Generic hunting setup for a far longer than I've been alive

#767 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-11 12:30 PM | Reply

#736 | Posted by boaz

You can take ICE, the National Guard, and the Marines and shove 'em up your ass.

And have some 10 year old explain the Constitution to you, you ------- moron.

#768 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-11 12:36 PM | Reply

#765 | Posted by BellRinger

---- off you mewling ----.

#769 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-11 12:37 PM | Reply

I held my nose and voted Trump.

#749 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Had to hold your sphincter, too.

Son, sometimes it's better to have an honest sh-- than to enable monsters.

#770 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-11 12:37 PM | Reply

"These comments were directed at millions of people."

Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.

#771 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-11 12:43 PM | Reply

Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.

#771 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-11 12:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's a stupid way of pretending it didn't happen. Not only that, but the antagonism from the likes of Kamala Harris and Maxine waters during the BLM riots.

#772 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-11 12:54 PM | Reply

-And what did your kids think of him?

Honestly, I don't know....I just got the whatfor from them when I said didn't know much about him.

I doubt my girls liked him very much. My son thought he was funny....but he's 17.

#773 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 01:10 PM | Reply

All the democrats in office are condemning this attack.
All the republicans including Trump are fanning the flames of violence and declaring war.

BOTH SIDES!

#774 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-11 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Govern like a conservative not a dictator.

That's a nice bumper sticker....but can you make the distinction?

GWB was a dictator when he was president in real time........now? He was a conservative.

It softens over time but when he invaded Iraq, FISA warrants, Gitmo, etc.....he was a dictator.

But he's not anymore......

#775 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 01:13 PM | Reply

-Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.

Great way to describe my "STAGED" comment yesterday.

#776 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 01:14 PM | Reply

But I agree Trump is truly more like a dictator than any president.....ever.

a dictator with other attributes that make it more profound.....the spite, resentment, etc.....

#777 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 01:16 PM | Reply

Hopefully the temperature will lower sooner rather than later. Our political culture is very toxic right now.

#645 | Posted by BellRinger a

Yeah thanks to people like you voting for a fascist cult that spews lies and hatred 24/7. It wasn't like this before trump came down that escalator talking about mexican rapists.

#778 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 01:33 PM | Reply

It must be tough for people not fooled by Trump to be a Republican these daze.

I mean, what to do? What GW supporters did, chameleon into, 'Libertarians'?

Join the Lincoln Project and werk against Trumpism?

Or still be annoying as possible to Dems and ignore Trump, because hey, that's more fun?

#779 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I wish all the other school shootings would generate this much concern and calls for action -threats of civil war- from the right.
There would certainly be fewer dead kids and possibly more christian nationalist youtubers getting skint by first year philosophy students.

#780 | Posted by BluSky at 2025-09-11 01:37 PM | Reply

bitter clingers - Obama
Deplorables - Hillary
MAGA Republicans are fascists - Biden

These comments were directed at millions of people.

#765 | Posted by BellRinger

I thought you loved politicians who "tell it like it is".

#781 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 01:39 PM | Reply

Fascist def:

"AI Overview

Fascism is a far-right, ultranationalist ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, forcible suppression of opposition, and a belief in a natural social hierarchy.

It emphasizes the subordination of individual interests for the nation or race, a centralized autocratic government, strong militarism, and the control of society and the economy.

Key traits include an obsession with national decline, the identification of scapegoats, rampant sexism, controlled media, and an intertwined relationship between religion and the ruling elite.

Here are the defining characteristics of fascism:"

www.google.com

Why do Fascists hate it when they are accurately ID'd as Fascists?

#782 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 01:45 PM | Reply

Here are the defining characteristics of fascism:

Authoritarianism:
A single, infallible leader who is the focus of a powerful cult, often leading a centralized autocracy.

Ultralationalism:
A powerful, often exclusionary nationalism that views the nation as being in a state of decline, demanding national rebirth.

Militarism:
An emphasis on the supremacy of the military and a glorification of violence to achieve national goals.

Suppression of Opposition:
Forcible suppression of political opposition, often through imprisonment and murder of minority and opposition group leaders.

Social and Economic Control:
Strong regimentation of society and the economy, with the subordination of individual rights for the supposed benefit of the nation.

Identification of Scapegoats:
The identification of enemies or scapegoats to unite the population behind the ruler and a sense of victimhood.

Controlled Media:
Control of mass media to promote government narratives and undermine objective truth.

Rampant Sexism:
An ideology that is deeply and widely sexist.

Class Collaboration:
While suppressing labor, fascism protects corporate power, creating a partnership between the state and the ruling class.

Intertwined Religion and Government:
A strong connection between religion and the ruling elite, which serves to reinforce the ruling party's authority.

ANY of that sound familiar??

If it does, you should be proud to be supporting and or obfuscating for and or attacking the opposition to Fascism.

#783 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Charlie Kirk got the ez way out.

Now he's getting a ride home on Air Force Two. I wonder if DOGE approved the ridiculous expense of doing that?

#784 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-11 01:58 PM | Reply

-It wasn't like this before trump came down that escalator talking about mexican rapists.

If Rush Limbaugh made the appearances like Kirk did then this might have happened to him.

Limbaugh talked the way he did way before Trump.

#785 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 02:07 PM | Reply

@Stacktdeck

"I am struggling to recall a single kind word from the Right when Melissa and Mark Hortman were shot in front of their daughter, but now the Left is going to bend over backwards to denounce the shooting of Charlie Kirk and the Right will regardless accuse the Left of being dangerous radicals and I am ------- sick of the double standard."

#786 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 02:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Limbaugh talked the way he did way before Trump.

#785 | Posted by eberly

And there were others before limbaugh. Spouting christofascist racism, ignorance, and hatred has always been an easy way for evil men to make money.

#787 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 02:17 PM | Reply

Charlie Kirk Assassination 'Had Professional Hallmarks': Security Experts
www.newsweek.com

What were you saying to Corky last night about 'pros', Eberly?

I don't know about 'pro', but it was obvious he/she/they has been to range a few times and knew enough to select an appropriate rifle for the job.

#788 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Patently absurd to compare the single statements vs the constant vitriol spewed by Trump. Let alone the actual unjust actions he had taken against so many people

#789 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-11 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I see none of our Trump Fascists are owning up to the FACT that their Cult is the VERY DEFINTION OF FASCISM.... even AI knows it, and it's not all that bright, either.

#790 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-What were you saying to Corky last night about 'pros', Eberly?

I don't remember. I was pretty wasted. :-)

#791 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 02:33 PM | Reply

"That's a stupid way of pretending it didn't happen."

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying the folks most upset by HRC's comment were deplorable.

#792 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-11 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It was to make fun of yet another media outlet engaging in Obama worship.

#751 | Posted by BellRinger

Your recollection is awful as usual.

Ehrenstein's essay: In a 2007 Los Angeles Times op-ed titled "Obama the 'Magic Negro'," David Ehrenstein used the term to criticize white Americans' perception of Barack Obama. He suggested that Obama's broad appeal was tied to his presentation as a non-threatening Black figure, in the mold of actors like Sidney Poitier and Morgan Freeman, which allowed white audiences to feel good about themselves without confronting deep-seated racial issues.
Limbaugh's use: Rush Limbaugh adopted the title of Ehrenstein's op-ed to produce a parody song set to the tune of "Puff, the Magic Dragon". The song was written by Paul Shanklin and featured lyrics mocking white liberals for supporting Obama while shunning more confrontational Black activists like Al Sharpton.

Either way, it's racist garbage that built on another nonsense trope the right created.

#793 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 02:49 PM | Reply

I don't remember. I was pretty wasted. :-)

#791 | Posted by eberly

We could tell.

#794 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 02:51 PM | Reply

Charlie Kirk Assassination 'Had Professional Hallmarks': Security Experts

Well, sheeeeet I feel like someone I know was saying that recently...

#795 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 02:55 PM | Reply

Boaz-o... your team is the gun culture. Your team is the one that fights for the right to shoot people and to own firearms to shoot people. Then you whine when someone you like gets shot dead. Someone who said it's okay if someone gets shot now and then... if it means you get to own firearms. It's hard to feel sorry for you or him... or his family... in two years... his kids won't remember him... shrug. Whateverrrrrrrr... YOU got an arsenal...

The man was shot in the neck... seems to me ... that's a pretty decent aim from 200 yards... sounds like a gun enthusiast...

YOUR PARTY IS THE PARTY OF GUN ENTHUSIASTS...

YAY for YOU.

It's funny how your party whines when one of you dies by his own hubris.

#690 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE

Boazo is the biggest lily white racist snowflake here, and that's saying a lot.

#796 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-11 03:08 PM | Reply

That old line from Sam Kinison about wife beating keeps coming to mind, "I don't condone or recommend it, but I know what turns Mr Hand into Mr Fist.".

#797 | Posted by morris at 2025-09-11 03:12 PM | Reply

"If Rush Limbaugh made the appearances like Kirk did "

That fat turd never left his studio.

#798 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-11 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Throw a rock at a pack of mongrels; the one who yelps is the one who got hit.
#771 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

YELP!
#772 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Danforth nailed it again!

#799 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 03:52 PM | Reply

the folks most upset by HRC's comment were deplorable.
#792 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

#Facts

#800 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 03:53 PM | Reply

I was pretty wasted.
#791 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Your inner MAGA slipped out.

Here's a summary:

You, "This was identical to the Trump assassination attempt!"

Everyone else, "Yea but that was a staged performance ... "

You, "bbbbaaaarrrrfffffff!"

It was pretty entertaining.

#801 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 03:59 PM | Reply

-Your inner MAGA slipped out.

you have more in common with the MAGA crowd than I ever will.

You share way more characteristics with them than I do.

#802 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'll reiterate my opposition to this or any other political assassination, but the lionization of Charlie Kirk over the past 24 hours is laughable. He was no hero. He was a hateful loudmouth who insisted on having the last word.

Of leading black women, he once said they had only succeeded because of affirmative action. "You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

He said America "made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s." Martin Luther King Jr. "was awful. He was not a good person."

When he saw Black people in an important job, he said, he would cringe. "If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified!"

Charlie Kirk said, "We need armed militias to prevent the diminishing and decreasing of white demographics."

He called LGBTQ "a social contagion."

On empathy, Kirk said, "I can't stand empathy. I think empathy is a made-up New Age term, and it does a lot of damage."

But yeah, he was a great American. So let's give him sainthood.

#803 | Posted by cbob at 2025-09-11 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you have more in common with the MAGA crowd than I ever will.
You share way more characteristics with them than I do.
#802 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Thanks for the laugh.

You're actually pretty funny when you're wasted.

#804 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 04:19 PM | Reply

But yeah, he was a great American. So let's give him sainthood.

MAGA doesn't seem to care much when it's a room (or rooms) full of kids.

Dead kids are an acceptable tradeoff for unfettered access to firearms.

But one single grown man gets shot? That's a national tragedy!

Boo ------ hoo.

#805 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Who will the billionaires prop up next to convince the yutes Trump isn't a chomo?

#806 | Posted by 2020Rocks at 2025-09-11 04:25 PM | Reply

-You're actually pretty funny when you're wasted.

That's true. But you didn't see it yesterday.

do people think you're funny when you're wasted?

#807 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:35 PM | Reply

But one single grown man gets shot? That's a national tragedy!
Boo ------ hoo.
#805 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

Honestly, they care less about Charlie Kirk's death and more about the fact they can attack liberals and Democrats for his death.

It's mental illness really.

Republicans love their guns, their unfettered access to guns, their ability to walk around with guns anywhere they want, they're imaginary Rambo moment, but it's Democrats who are to blame for gun deaths in America. Despite the vast vast vast majority of shooters being Republicans.

It's mental illness.

#808 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 04:35 PM | Reply

But you didn't see it yesterday.
#807 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I saw you throwing up all over the place thinking you were making valid arguments.

#809 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 04:37 PM | Reply

they're imaginary Rambo moment

I don't think you're far off, as evidenced by all the kids who get shot for being in the wrong driveway, or knocking on the door and running away.

#810 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 04:42 PM | Reply

-But one single grown man gets shot? That's a national tragedy!

Everybody has bought in. CNN, MSNBC, etc....everyone is running it non-stop.

#811 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:52 PM | Reply

"thinking you were making valid arguments."

yep

#812 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:53 PM | Reply

Not everything I posted yesterday is worthy of my memoirs.

#813 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:53 PM | Reply

My only question is whether this was a lone wacko liberal, or a paid assassin, as we know that the left, and the dem party hate that Kirk was brining these high school and college youths over to the conservative side.

#814 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-11 05:27 PM | Reply

My only question is whether this was a lone wacko liberal, or a paid assassin, as we know that the left, and the dem party hate that Kirk was brining these high school and college youths over to the conservative side.

#814 | Posted by MSgt

Anyone with a brain hates nazi recruiters.

#815 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 05:30 PM | Reply

POSTED BY MSG

You're ------- retarded and emblematic of what's wrong with America.

It's too bad America is filled with stupid people like you.

#816 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 05:32 PM | Reply

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.

#817 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-11 05:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

One thing for sure is that no matter who, if anyone besides the shooter, is behind this. Nothing will change.

It won't stop what Kirk was doing. There are hundreds and hundreds of Kirk's trying to get where he was. They'll gladly step in and continue with the same message.

There is an audience for it.

#818 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 05:39 PM | Reply

I wonder when Laura Loomer's next public appearance will be: ca.news.yahoo.com

#819 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-11 05:48 PM | Reply

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.

Did you forget about the crazed Trumper who went door to door in Minnesota and killed/maimed Dem lawmakers?

Your memory rivals your intelligence.

#820 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 05:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.

#817 | Posted by visitor_

Who shot the minnesota state senator a couple months ago?

#821 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 06:01 PM | Reply

It won't stop what Kirk was doing. There are hundreds and hundreds of Kirk's trying to get where he was. They'll gladly step in and continue with the same message.

There is an audience for it.

#818 | Posted by eberly

Of course. Spreading fascist propganda is the easiest way for a talentless sociopath to get rich in america right now.

No one coming to your stand up comedy shows? Just start a podcast, blame the russian invasion on ukraine, say hillary was as bad as trump, and suddenly you're rich.

#822 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.

#817 | Posted by visitor_

Only in the mind of a stupid pile of s(*& like you.

#823 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-11 06:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is an audience for it.

The audience is only going to grow faster, so that's changing.

#824 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 06:05 PM | Reply

"Argh! Stupid left wing violence! It's always Them! Blargh!" static01.nyt.com

#825 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-11 06:07 PM | Reply

Has anybody been as successful as Kirk was at reaching out to the younger crowds with a conservative POV?

and pretty hardcore conservative stance to boot?

#826 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 06:16 PM | Reply

How can the shooter be a Dem?

Dems are all a bunch of pushovers terrified of doing anything beyond putting a rainbow flag in the window.

This took just a touch more than that.

#827 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 06:18 PM | Reply

Has anybody been as successful as Kirk was at reaching out to the younger crowds with a conservative POV?

Is it Hitler?

#828 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I was counting on Hitler as a response...but hoping for an American in the last 30 or so years....

#829 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 06:19 PM | Reply

Has anybody been as successful as Kirk was at reaching out to the younger crowds with a conservative POV?

and pretty hardcore conservative stance to boot?

#826 | Posted by eberly

Joe rogan. Failed actor, failing comedian, starts spewing russian propanda that helps fascists win elections, suddenly he's rich AF.

#830 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

reaching out to the younger crowds

Younger men.

Younger men who blame their failure with women on 'the left' or need to justify the last time they downed an 18 pack and knocked the wife unconscious (she made me do it!).

But as it turns out, expecting the woman to behave like she's only on this Earth to silently answer your beck and call isn't the best long play with young women these days.

------ lefties brainwashed them!

#831 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-11 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" All the democrats in office are condemning this attack"

And some of them then go on to say that Trump's rhetoric is the reason this happened.

Kirk was a die hard Tump supporter.

#832 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-11 06:53 PM | Reply

" Joe rogan. Failed actor, failing comedian, starts spewing russian propanda that helps fascists win elections, suddenly he's rich AF.

#830 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-09-11 06:29 PM | REPLY"

His audiences were huge before he dipped his toe into politics and when he started getting into politics he was a Bernie Bro.

#833 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-11 06:54 PM | Reply

How many times did we hear in 2024 that if Dems lost the election it was the end of Democracy in this country? Trump is Hitler. ALL of his voters are Nazi's. That kind of content over the top rhetoric is what drives crazy people to do crazy things. The only reason I'm pointing my finger is because every time a shooting occurs Dems and the left immediately blame Republicans and conservatives for it. Now you get to play by your own rules.

#834 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-11 07:00 PM | Reply

How many times did we hear in 2024 that if Dems lost the election it was the end of Democracy in this country?

This is stall a fact.

The Trump administration has destroyed the federal government.

He's attacking democratic cities and politicians.

He's attacking corporations, news outlets, and journalists who have ever spoken out against him.

He's attacking civil rights and state rights.

The legislative branch and judicial branch have abdicated their responsibilities and handed their power over to the executive branch.

#835 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 07:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Still holding onto the debunked myth that the MN shooter was MAGA? He literally thought he was working for Tim Walz.

#836 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-11 07:05 PM | Reply

Now you get to play by your own rules.
#834 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

We're all still stuck playing by your rules, idiot.

Fact is, this shooting was carried out by someone loyal to Trump.

Republicans are violent by nature.

#837 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-11 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So you're blaming Democrats because you get blamed for all the shootings?
And you actually are wondering why?
You think that's undeserved?
So you feel justified in blaming Democrats even though you told us the "only reason" was they blamed Republicans?
Logically that means you know the Democrats aren't to blame at all.

#838 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-11 07:09 PM | Reply

Still holding onto the debunked myth that the MN shooter was MAGA? He literally thought he was working for Tim Walz.

This was thoroughly crushed as bullshht and for you to try and bring it up now really makes you look more stupid than usual.

#839 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-11 07:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Boaz's mouth writing checks his butt can't cash. He makes bold claims against Biden and Obama inciting violence and calls me "stupid" for not using Google to go try digging for said incidences of incitation. It's because they don't exist.
Boaz is a great example of the right and how Trump got elected. Facts and truth do not matter. It is only hatred for the "other" that matters, and love for the cult leader that matters above all else, even when he's clearly a traitor to the country, a pedo, and a rapist

#840 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-11 07:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Has Visitard ever been correct about anything ever, even once?

AI Overview
Available data from multiple research and government sources confirm that white nationalist men are the most common perpetrators of lethal domestic terrorism and racially or ethnically motivated attacks in the United States.

Key findings from research and official reports:

www.google.com

#841 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 07:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to Corky's AI, 911 was a MAGA attack. If we ignore 60 years of leftist violence...

#842 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-11 08:06 PM | Reply

" All the democrats in office are condemning this attack"

And some of them then go on to say that Trump's rhetoric is the reason this happened.

Kirk was a die hard Tump supporter.

#832 | Posted by BellRinger

Where is the conflict? Murder is bad. Violent hateful rhetoric creates more murders.

Can you fit both those concepts into your brain?

#843 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 08:28 PM | Reply

How many times did we hear in 2024 that if Dems lost the election it was the end of Democracy in this country? Trump is Hitler. ALL of his voters are Nazi's. That kind of content over the top rhetoric is what drives crazy people to do crazy things. The only reason I'm pointing my finger is because every time a shooting occurs Dems and the left immediately blame Republicans and conservatives for it. Now you get to play by your own rules.

#834 | Posted by BellRinger

Trump literally attempted a coup when he lost an election. The dems who said he wouldnt leave power peacfully were proven right. All you morons who said dems were being dramatic were proven wrong.

Trump is dismantling checks and balances like hitler did. Many of his voters are nazis, and those that aren't don't mind joining forces with nazis.

These facts are over the top because trump's fascism is over the top. Of course there's no limit for you.

#844 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 08:32 PM | Reply

His audiences were huge before he dipped his toe into politics and when he started getting into politics he was a Bernie Bro.

#833 | Posted by BellRinger

He dipped his toe into podcasting early but he didn't become a household name by bringing on bigfoot hunters. It wasn't until he started parroting russian disinformation the algoriths put him into everyone's feeds.

#845 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-11 08:37 PM | Reply

911? Really, that was Dems?

Who knew that except Visitard? Who obviously doesn't know what DOMESTIC terrorism is.

#846 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 08:57 PM | Reply

I just think it's amazing.

For the first time in history, we have a school shooting Republicans actually want to talk about.

#847 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-11 09:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Who said that? You made specious claims and I merely extrapolated them.

#848 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-09-11 09:44 PM | Reply

#848

You claimed:

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.
#817 | Posted by visitor_

Then AI told you it's almost always rwing white nationalists that are responsible for domestic terrorism in this country... which doesn't compute in your fact-free Fascist head.

btw... #s 772 and 773 are the Definition of Fascism.... which is synonymous with your Cult.

Ck it out... even you couldn't miss... wait, ok, you prolly could miss it.

#849 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-11 09:53 PM | Reply

Violence and the left. It's not all of them, but it's always them.
#817 | Posted by visitor_

Charlie Kirk literally called for the stoning of gay people...

The world is better off without him.

#850 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-12 02:50 AM | Reply

Someone is videoed cheering and celebrating the repulsive Charlie Kirk receiving an involuntary lead injection procedure to his neck. Islamophobic Laura Loomer bleats: "Find the guy who is cheering! Who celebrates someone's death?"

This miscreant celebrates and cheers the death of every Muslim or Arab that she reads about: x.com

#851 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-12 04:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It sort of feels like an elaborate diversion... the shooter gets away... Trumpanzee is too cool for someone who lost a good friend... too quick to award a medal...

He's trying to stir up the republicl0wn youth vote...

small sacrifice

Release the fekking Epstein files.

#852 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-12 05:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OOOOOOooooooo cop kid done the deed.... generational gun groomers...

#853 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-12 09:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

22 year old, Tyler Robinson, from Utah.
I'm interested in his motivation in this.
The biggest beneficiaries of this kid's actions are Trump and MAGA.
Disappointing.

#854 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-12 09:38 AM | Reply

do people think you're funny when you're wasted?

#807 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-11 04:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

The guys at the frat party love him.

#855 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-12 11:09 AM | Reply

Utah Sen. Mike Lee on Charlie Kirk's shooting death: "The terrorists will not win."

Sen. Lee on the shooting death of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman, her husband Mark and their dog: "This is what happens when Marxists don't get their way."

#856 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-12 11:48 AM | Reply

From the bosom of the Mormon church. White conservative boy... cop / preacher's son... conservatron all the wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

The reddest of the red states w/o being Tex@$$

Gun groomers all the way...

#857 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-12 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sen. Lee on the shooting death of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman, her husband Mark and their dog: "This is what happens when Marxists don't get their way."

#856 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-12 11:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Senator Lee doesn't speak for anyone but himself on this subject. You're reaching to cover for the violent side of your party, douchenozzle.

#858 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-12 12:18 PM | Reply

What we now know about the shooter:

It appears he was a 4Chan Groyper possibly a Nick Fuentes follower.

He came from a wealthy conservative family.

The bullet casings are mainly 4Chan Groyper memes:
"Hey fascist! Catch!" with the arrow symbols is from a video game called Hell Divers, it calls in a huge bomb. Popular phrase with the Groyper group
"Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao" is from Hearts of Iron IV, a WWII strategy game, play as Hitler if you like. It's also often wrongly associated with Italian Anti-Fascists. Again popular with the Groyper group
"If you read this, you are gay LMAO" - not exactly something LGBTQ supporters say but again popular on 4Chan message boards
"Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?" - It's literally a 4Chan meme about investigating someone for being trans, popular in the Groyper community

He did wear a Trump costume on Halloween some time back.

He is NOT the same person who donated $200 to Trump's campaign.

TRN on the bullets is the name of the manufacturer. Kash Patel is an idiot.

The memes and Anti-Fascist stuff are directly from Nick Fuentes' groypers group. They are displayed constantly in their message boards INCLUDING calling Kirk a fascist.

Fuentes and his Groypers have repeatedly disrupted Kirk's events and called him fascist for not taking a hard enough stance on Immigration and for being Pro-Israel (Fuentes is a Holocaust denier and Groypers are insanely antisemitic). They believe Kirk is basically controlled opposition to the America First policy to steer people away from a true America First policy and that Kirk is undermining or watering down the policy.

Even the Reddit message boards and some top Republicans have gone from "The Leftists are violent and blood thirsty" to "...we should pray for this individual like Kirk would want us to."

It is highly unlikely this has anything to do with Epstein. These boards don't seem to care that much about it. ...in fact, quite the opposite since many hail from the Incel community...

#859 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-12 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MAGATS ARE ------- RETARDED

#860 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 03:02 PM | Reply

"Senator Lee doesn't speak for anyone but himself on this subject. "

#858 | Posted by lfthndthrds

YOU GOT PLAYED, MORON. TAKE A VACATION

#861 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-12 03:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You can kill the messenger, but not the message:
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#862 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 04:18 PM | Reply

You can kill the messenger, but not the message:
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#863 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 04:18 PM | Reply

You can kill the messenger, but not the message:
scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net

#864 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 04:18 PM | Reply

Dem: "We must band AR-15s!" -- It was a bolt action rifle and in a gun free zone.......

#865 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 05:16 PM | Reply

Kudos to the father of the shooter for doing what was right.

#866 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 05:17 PM | Reply

Kudos to the father of the shooter for doing what was right.

#866 | Posted by MSgt

Kudos to all the unsatisfied wives and abused children of the jan 6th terrorists who turned them in. Too bad trump pardoned them all.

#867 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-12 05:59 PM | Reply

So, one of the words on the P**** OF S*** shooter's shell casing is 'fascist', gee, wonder which party has constantly thrown out that word against those on the right???
Libbies, you own this!

#868 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 06:05 PM | Reply

Notice that unlike libbies, that there is no rioting, burning and killings due to Kirk's murder.

PROVE ME WRONG!!!!

#869 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-09-12 06:53 PM | Reply

that there is no rioting, burning and killings due to Kirk's murder.

Did they list the cause of death a "medical incident?

#870 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-12 07:05 PM | Reply

Notice that unlike libbies, that there is no rioting, burning and killings due to Kirk's murder.
PROVE ME WRONG!!!!

#869 | Posted by MSgt

I should hope not now that we know the killer was a damn Alt Right Fuentes Groyper!

#871 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-12 07:12 PM | Reply

So, one of the words on the P**** OF S*** shooter's shell casing is 'fascist', gee, wonder which party has constantly thrown out that word against those on the right???
Libbies, you own this!

#868 | Posted by MSgt

AGED LIKE MILK

Which Party? Republicans.

See the Groyper War by Nick Fuentes. They called Kirk a fascist.

And now its been confirmed the shooter was a damn Fuentes Groyper.

#872 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-12 07:13 PM | Reply

Re: #869

Riots occur when a group has no power and is only able to vent their frustration. Why would any MAGA/GOP riot? They control all three branches of government and (sorry Charlie) this killing is at best a minor blip/setback. It is not a loss of a keystone to their power. If anything, this gives them a "Remember the Alamo" martyr. As history has shown, a martyr is extremely valuable and essentially impossible to counter.

PROVE ME WRONG!

#873 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-09-12 07:14 PM | Reply

#862 | Posted by MSgt
#863 | Posted by MSgt
#864 | Posted by MSgt

HA HA HA

You look so stupid now.

Damn! This has got to be the funniest and quickest Aged like Milk in the history of the DR!

#874 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-12 07:15 PM | Reply

-- there is no rioting, burning and killings due to Kirk's murder.

NO.... just Threats of a CIVIL WAR by Republican leaders.

#875 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 07:15 PM | Reply

So, one of the words on the P**** OF S*** shooter's shell casing is 'fascist', gee, wonder which party has constantly thrown out that word against those on the right???
Libbies, you own this!

#868 | Posted by MSgt

If you don't want people to call you fascist why did your party embrace fascism?

#876 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-12 07:21 PM | Reply

www.google.com

That shows how perfectly their party embraces fascism... it's a near miracle of history that Trumpers could imitate the 3rd Reich this well and closely.

#877 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-12 07:47 PM | Reply

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