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Sunday, September 28, 2025

Multiple people have been shot at a Mormon church in Michigan and the shooter is down, police said Sunday.

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All Americans deserve to be safe in church and in their communities. This news is heartbreaking and my thoughts are with the Grand Blanc community.[image or embed]

" Kris Brown | President, @BradyUnited.org (@krisbrown.bradyunited.org) Sep 28, 2025 at 12:47 PM

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Some kind of twisted revenge for Charlie Kirk?

#1 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2025-09-28 01:11 PM | Reply

Some kind of twisted revenge for Charlie Kirk?

#1 | Posted by Monkeybars

Well, the Mormons did let him die.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-28 01:17 PM | Reply

Some kind of twisted revenge for Charlie Kirk?

#1 | POSTED BY MONKEYBARS AT 2025-09-28 01:11 PM | FLAG:

Seems that would require some twisted logic.

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-28 01:18 PM | Reply

Twisted logic is a side dish in Karachi.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-28 01:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Well, the Mormons did let him die.

He was shot by a ghey mormon princess, wasn't he?

#5 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2025-09-28 01:23 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by REDIAL

OMG... you're still circling the drain!??

#6 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2025-09-28 01:25 PM | Reply

I'm going with disgruntled Ex-Mormon on SSRI's. And that was probably the church he got ex-communicated from or something.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-28 01:35 PM | Reply

What, not "the left"?

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-28 01:39 PM | Reply

I'm going with disgruntled Ex-Mormon on SSRI's. And that was probably the church he got ex-communicated from or something.

#7 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2025-09-28 01:35 PM | REPLY

I wonder what he/she wrote in their bullets this time.

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-28 01:40 PM | Reply

It's interesting how ever since Kash Patel became the head of the FBI, shooters have been engraving their bullet casings.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-28 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Casting spells and chanting.

#11 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-09-28 01:50 PM | Reply

I know right were this is. It's about 45 minutes from my place. Grand Blanc is a Flint suburb, almost directly east on the South Side. Been to the "nearby hospital" more than once. Basically it is just inside the civilized edge of Thumb Militia country.

Looking at the truck with the American flags hanging from poles in the bed (everywhere in the rural areas around here) - right wing nutter with a revenge for Kirk motivation is my solid bet.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-28 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

s.yimg.com

#13 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-28 02:57 PM | Reply

right wing nutter with a revenge for Kirk motivation is my solid bet.

Yep.

#14 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2025-09-28 03:13 PM | Reply

Apparently religious freedom now only applies to MAGAnites.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-28 03:14 PM | Reply

---- Charlie Kirk

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-28 03:38 PM | Reply

Blasphemer!

#17 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2025-09-28 03:40 PM | Reply

Yah, so the ---- what of it?

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-28 03:51 PM | Reply

Thoughts and prayers, sorry nothing can be done, keep yer eyes peeled.

#19 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-28 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It MUST be a former member kicked out. Who else would shoot at mormons?

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-28 04:11 PM | Reply

Clearly A terrorist. His license tag said "Iraq". Biden's fault again ...

PS: release the Epstein files ...

#21 | Posted by catdog at 2025-09-28 04:25 PM | Reply

"But I am - I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

-Charlie Kirk, The heir to Jesus Nazarenus and savior of all low-IQ MAGA-

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-09-28 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

but... but.... but.... the cartels in Mexico... ect ect ect...

#23 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-28 04:34 PM | Reply

"That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

Abso-fuggin-lutely, ---------.

#24 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-28 04:52 PM | Reply

The shooter was an Iraq war vet.

www.rawstory.com

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-28 04:53 PM | Reply

Loved Guns more than his fellow man.

One of his fellow men took him at his word.

Was Charlie One of the Expendibles?

Inquiring Minds want to Know.

Charlie Never thought he'd get his Neck blown out on TV.

That's for damned Sure.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-28 04:53 PM | Reply

According to the internet the shooter has a trump Vance sign up in his front yard

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2025-09-28 05:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Raw Story is quoting the New York Post. That source has been banned here since it ran the Hunter Biden Laptop story, and still is.

So you can't believe Raw Story. House rules, dude.

#28 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-28 05:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Attending church is dangerous these days!

(See also schools, restaurants, bars, workplaces, sporting events, concerts, nightclubs, highways, parades, government offices, hospitals, etc.)

#29 | Posted by cbob at 2025-09-28 05:05 PM | Reply

the Hunter Biden Laptop story

Oh yea! That bullshht story.

What ever happened to that smoking gun email?

What a stupid idiot you are.

Always appreciate you reminding us you're a moron.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-28 05:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

So far we know the shooter is a white guy former Marine had a beard had a plan served in Iraq likely had PTSD probably voted for Trump and was mentally ill

#31 | Posted by Tor at 2025-09-28 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" ... probably voted for Trump and was mentally ill"

But you repeat yourself.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-28 05:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So far we know the shooter is a white guy former Marine had a beard had a plan served in Iraq likely had PTSD probably voted for Trump and was mentally ill

He had that warrior ethos Pickled Pete admires.

#33 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-28 05:38 PM | Reply

#31 And probable an ex-Mormon.

#34 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-28 06:04 PM | Reply

Oddly the only people who hate the use of religion in society are mostly radical biased leftists. Why?

Religion is generally a positive in society except in the perverted minds of people who always hate freedom and open society and who are obsessed with their own radical politics.

I very strongly oppose all political hate and bias.

#35 | Posted by Robson at 2025-09-28 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

I very strongly oppose all political hate and bias.

Says the --------- who cheered for the J6 cop killers.

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-28 06:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#35

---- off -------.

#37 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-28 06:54 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by Robson

This clown is a bottomless well of absurdity.

#38 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-28 07:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I very strongly oppose...
#35 | Posted by Robson

Yet you voted for the guy who wants to make dissent illegal.

#39 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-09-28 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Thomas Jacob Sanford, the suspect in Sunday morning's mass shooting at a Michigan church, was an Iraq War veteran and outdoorsman, according to military records and social media posts.

A Marine Corps spokesperson told CNN that Sanford served as a sergeant and received several medals for his service, which lasted from 2004 to 2008. He was deployed during Operation Iraqi Freedom for several months starting in the summer of 2007.

Sanford graduated from Goodrich High School in 2004 and was recognized among other veteran alumni, according to an archived page from the school's website. A local news profile of Sanford from 2007 said he was deployed with the US Marine Corps to Japan before preparing to head for service in Iraq.

Social media accounts linked to Sanford's family show he was married with at least one child, a young son. According to a GoFundMe page from 2015, the family was in need of donations to help pay for the medical care of Sanford's son, who was born with a rare genetic disorder.
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www.cnn.com

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-28 07:25 PM | Reply

"Other posts on Sanford's mother's Facebook page show that Sanford was a hunter, posing with deer and other game."

Obviously a Trans Lib Kamala supporter.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-28 07:28 PM | Reply

Apparently religious freedom now only applies to MAGAnites.

#15 | Posted by Corky

That's always been the case in their minds, I know it was obvious to you and most - any religion that fits in their twisted narrow Christian definition.

#42 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-28 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to the internet the shooter has a trump Vance sign up in his front yard

#27 | Posted by Tor

I was driving in rural central Michigan by the same old dumps I have been driving by for like a decade thinking, "I really should take a picture of these dumps decorated like it's Christmas with Trump signs and paraphernalia." I mean DUMPS. 8+ old rotted worthless cars in the year, 50 year old ag equipment just rotting in the "yard" - not decoration stuff, dilapidated homes...

I was also thinking "I just wouldn't want to get shot..."

#43 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-28 07:52 PM | Reply

So the guy was from Burton. Just north of Grand Blanc. It is a really dumpy low income area. Real mix of folks but primarily Democrat voting.

#44 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-28 07:55 PM | Reply

Thomas Jacob Sanford.

Sounds Muslim.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-28 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thomas Jacob Sanford.
Sounds Muslim.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL

Former Marine
Avid Hunter
Liked Guns
Had American Flags on his truck
MAGA voter

Yep, checks on the boxes for crazy liberal shooter again, right MAGAts?

#46 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-28 09:15 PM | Reply

As just reported by Sen Fetterman, Conservatives rarely commit random acts of violence as do the anger obsessed anarchists who hate all for sport.

#47 | Posted by Robson at 2025-09-28 10:15 PM | Reply

"Lone wolf" with "mental health problems".

Must mean the shooter is not a lefty and he's white. Our media is ----.

#48 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-28 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Upwards of 80 percent of all domestic terror events in this country for the last 3 decades has been white nationalists. Fact.

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-28 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#47

---- off you idiot.

#50 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-28 11:41 PM | Reply

Yea, it's going to be hard to blame this one on the far- Left, not with it being a 40-year old white male, Marine veteran who had two big American flags flying from the back of the cab of his big 4X4 pickup.

OCU

#51 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-09-29 01:11 AM | Reply

Update ...

Shooter kills at least four, wounds eight at Michigan church
www.reuters.com

#52 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-09-29 01:13 AM | Reply

Make
America
Gross
Again

#53 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-29 05:56 AM | Reply

I very strongly oppose all political hate and bias.

#35 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Says the s%^*stain who tried to make it about a caricature LeFt while we know who the shooter is and that they're clearly not ThE LeFtz!!

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-29 10:06 AM | Reply

I was driving in rural central Michigan by the same old dumps I have been driving by for like a decade thinking, "I really should take a picture of these dumps decorated like it's Christmas with Trump signs and paraphernalia." I mean DUMPS. 8+ old rotted worthless cars in the year, 50 year old ag equipment just rotting in the "yard" - not decoration stuff, dilapidated homes...

I was also thinking "I just wouldn't want to get shot..."

#43 | Posted by GalaxiePete

I've been through quite a lot of rural America the past couple of months. It's the same story in every state I traversed:

Many huge Trump flags in front of dilapidated houses with junk in the front yard.

All one can do is shake their head and silently say, "way to be against your own best interests.' Suckers!

BTW, I called a friend in Grand Blanc yesterday after reading the news. This is the 12th mass shooting in Michigan this year!

#55 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-09-29 11:46 AM | Reply

Now I'm hearing he had a Trump/Vance sign with a Stop sign (traffic type) nailed to it (saw the pic) AND that he hated Jews and pretty much every sub group.

Imagine that.

Imagine the amount of SSRI's and PTSD drugs this guy was probably on. What he really needed was some Magic Mushrooms and some '60's classic rock to mellow out, but the Lizard People made that illegal, so I guess he was left with Tylenol and an AR-15 to kill the pain.

Still, we are missing the manifesto, and I still think he may have been an ex-Mormon.

#56 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-29 12:28 PM | Reply

As just reported by Sen Fetterman, Conservatives rarely commit random acts of violence as do the anger obsessed anarchists who hate all for sport.

#47 | Posted by Robson

Aged like milk.

#57 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-29 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

America has a right wing what male domestic terrorism crisis but the Guardians of Pedophiles hide it.

#58 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-29 01:23 PM | Reply

white, not what.

Sheesh.

#59 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-29 01:23 PM | Reply

Upwards of 80 percent

Over 80%

#60 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-09-29 01:25 PM | Reply

#55 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Sad but true.

So I talked to a coworker. His dad's neighborhood is across the road from the shooters neighborhood and his kid's have a bunch of Mormon friends from that congregation. The guy definitely had the Trump/Vance sign up still and his dad knew the truck. According to him, the guy called in a bomb threat to the Meijer in the area the day before. If you don't know Meijer, think walmart mega center but good and a 1000% better experience.

#61 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-29 02:10 PM | Reply

I know Meijer from back in the days of visiting an aunt in Ionia, East on I-96 from Grand Rapids.

#62 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-09-29 02:46 PM | Reply

" Yep, checks on the boxes for crazy liberal shooter again, right MAGAts?

#46 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-09-28 09:15 PM | FLAG: "

You may want to cool your jets regarding this shooter. You were adamant that Tyler Robinson is a groyper.

#63 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-29 07:00 PM | Reply

#63

You're the ------- who said this was terrorism.

www.newsweek.com

#64 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-29 07:06 PM | Reply

STFU, Pedo.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-29 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Go kill some more elderly relatives, MAGAt.

#66 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-29 09:09 PM | Reply

#65

He's right; you did.

When confronted, you said you'd "read it somewhere", but refused to say where, when multiple posters asked for your source. Myself included.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-29 09:12 PM | Reply

I don't remember that story or my take on it. If I had a bad take I retract and apologize.

#68 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-29 09:44 PM | Reply

Jeff is a piece of ----

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-29 10:31 PM | Reply

" Jeff is a piece of ----

#69 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-29 10:31 PM | REPLY"

Why?

#70 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-29 11:01 PM | Reply

" Jeff is a piece of ----
#69 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-29 10:31 PM | REPLY"
Why?

#70 | Posted by BellRinger

Some say nature, some say nurture.

Comes down to whether your mother ---- you out her ass or not. If not, then she was a ------ mother to raise a ------ person like you.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-29 11:06 PM | Reply

So, which is it? Are you the spawn of your mom getting ass ------ or was she such a failure as a mother that resulted in you being the way you are?

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-29 11:08 PM | Reply

Inquiring minds don't give a ----.

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-29 11:08 PM | Reply

My mom is a wonderful person who raised me well. Same for my dad.

#74 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-29 11:25 PM | Reply

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