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"Trump-class battleships?" Trump's narcissism reaches new heights of comedy.

-- Stephen King (@stephenking.bsky.social) Dec 23, 2025 at 6:58 AM

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Oh, let me guess. Big, beautiful Lewzer class battleships?

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 04:10 PM | Reply

"President Donald Trump is set to announce a new type of battleship Monday that he has considered calling the "Trump class," a person familiar with the matter said, as he works to update a US Naval fleet he's said before is unattractive and rusty."

LOL.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 04:32 PM | Reply

"I'm not a fan of some of the ships you do. I'm a very aesthetic person ... ."
Who said that?
(A) Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson
(B) Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
(C) Admiral of the Fleet Horatio "Horny" Hornblower
(D) Rear Admiral John "Jack" Aubrey, CB, MP, JP, FRS
(E) Donald J. Trump, Impressario

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-22 04:50 PM | Reply

If they named a Class of ships after Drumpf, it should be called the, "No Class" of ships.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-12-22 04:54 PM | Reply

Donald J. Trump, Impressario

Has there been anyone in history that was more of an egomaniac than Lewzer? He seems to have no limit.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 04:59 PM | Reply

"Lewzer to make shipbuilding announcement"

giphy.com

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-12-22 06:29 PM | Reply

These "battleships" will never be built. The Navy doesn't need or want them.

Somebody is trying to distract the Old Man from playing with the content of his diapers.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2025-12-22 06:46 PM | Reply

Trump has Victory At Sea stuck on repeat in the old Betamax he uses during "Executive Time."

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-22 06:48 PM | Reply

They said "frigate", he heard "------", and yelled THAT'S BETWEEN BILL AND ME.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-12-22 07:44 PM | Reply

Flanked by renderings of the "Trump class" battleships at sea, Trump said he would take an active role in their design. "The US Navy will lead the design of these ships along with me because I'm a very aesthetic person," Trump said. Fitted with "guns and missiles a the highest level," hypersonic weapons, electric rail guns, cruise missiles and the "most sophisticated lasers in the world," the new battleships will be the largest ever built. They will each weigh between 30,000 and 40,000 tons, he said, and will be built in the United States.
LOL. Any guess on the projected price tag of this fictional fleet?

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 08:29 PM | Reply

electric rail guns

Wait until this naval design genius finds out that rail guns operate the same way as the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System catapults that he hates so much.

Does he know a rail gun won't work if it gets wet?

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 08:50 PM | Reply

The rail guns will be powered by a turbine off the coal fired steam boiler on the S.S Trump.

#12 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-12-22 11:47 PM | Reply

The rail guns will be powered by a turbine off the coal fired steam boiler

Not to mention the lasers. Must be burning "clean coal", since there does not seem to be any exhaust stacks on the renders. Must not be aesthetic enough.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 11:51 PM | Reply

The-------------'s name isn't fit to spoil the rustiest garbage scow.

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-12-22 11:52 PM | Reply

the rustiest garbage scow.

Nixon didn't get one either.

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-22 11:54 PM | Reply

Another view ...

Trump announces new Trump-class battleship' as part of Golden Fleet'
breakingdefense.com

... The new vessel, coming in around 30,000 tons, will be capable of carrying surface-launched nuclear missiles, creating what Navy Secretary John Phelan called a new nuclear deterrent.

President Donald Trump today announced the Navy would pursue a new class of "battleships" as part of the White House's "Golden Fleet" concept.

"They'll be the fastest, the biggest and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built," Trump said at his Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. "Battleships are the largest, sturdiest and most heavily armed vessel built specifically for naval combat. While America has built many new warships over the years, they've tended to be smaller, much smaller, and not conducive to where we are and where we're going " peace through strength."

Trump, flanked by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Navy Secretary John Phelan and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, also said the Navy would aim to quickly start building two battleships, but that the class could ultimately have between 20 and 25 ships. Photos on display on each side of Trump suggested at least one of the "Trump class" ships would be named "USS Defiant."

The new "battleship" is planned to be around 30,000-40,000 tons -- considerably larger than the Navy's current fleet of destroyers -- and capable of using a variety of future weapons, such as electromagnetic railguns and hypersonic munitions. Trump said the new ships would also carry nuclear-armed sea-launched missiles, creating what Navy Secretary John Phelan amounted to a new nuclear deterrent. ...


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-23 12:36 AM | Reply

@#16 ... Trump, flanked by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, ...

OK, my first question would be ...

Was Sec of Def Hegseth prancing around on the stage trying to sell what he was saying?


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-23 12:38 AM | Reply

The new "battleship" is planned to be around 30,000-40,000 tons

Yamato Class was 71,659 tons.
Iowa Class was 57,540 tons.
Bismarck Class was 51,800 tons.

So, the USS Lewzer Class is nowhere near the biggest. Not even in the top 10.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-23 12:52 AM | Reply

Yamato Class was 71,659 tons.
Iowa Class was 57,540 tons.
Bismarck Class was 51,800 tons.

So calling the 40,000 ton vessel the Tiffany Trump class would actually be a compliment them.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-23 01:19 AM | Reply

@#18 ... So, the USS Lewzer Class is nowhere near the biggest. Not even in the top 10. ...

But the other aspect of the question seems to be ...

@#16

... "They'll be the fastest, the biggest and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built," Trump said at his Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. " ...


... OK, maybe not the biggest, but the most powerful?

... 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built ...

Of course, Pres Trump said it, so, it must be true.

/s


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-23 02:07 AM | Reply

OK, maybe not the biggest, but the most powerful?

Well, it will have a complement of at least three currently nonexistent naval weapons, so there's that.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-23 02:12 AM | Reply

@#21 ... Well, it will have a complement of at least three currently nonexistent naval weapons, so there's that.

Yeah, the usual lies from Pres Trump?

To be honest, my concern through this escapade of Pres Trump is not about the battleships.

My concern is... what is Pres Trump trying to pull attention away from?

imo, Pres Trump is all about one thing... himself.

But in [a distant?] second place seems to be optics of whatever may be his current focal point.

And those battleships seems to be his current focal point.

...

But, how does all that relate to what the public actually cares about?



#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-12-23 02:43 AM | Reply

Yamato Class was 71,659 tons.
Iowa Class was 57,540 tons.
Bismarck Class was 51,800 tons.

So, the USS Lewzer Class is nowhere near the biggest. Not even in the top 10.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-23 12:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

As material science advances, so does the efficiency of said ships.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-23 10:58 AM | Reply

"As material science advances, so does the efficiency of said ships."

Yeah that's why we haven't built a battleship since 1944.

Go huff some more gas, mouthbreather.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-23 11:10 AM | Reply

As material science advances, so does the efficiency of said ships.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Which is EXACTLY WHY we don't make them anymore, idiot.

Carriers provide aircraft capable of firing from hundreds of miles away.

Destroys provide the missile support and advanced fire support in a faster, cheaper platform.

Like you and Donald, battleships are slow, fat and useless.

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-23 11:47 AM | Reply

You can hear the Chinese laughing at us...

#26 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-12-23 11:47 AM | Reply

Do you have any evidence that different alloys or materials have been used to reduce tonnage of vessels?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-23 12:22 PM | Reply


You can hear the Chinese laughing at us...
#26 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT A

I have been laughing at you for awhile ...

The Bridge of the Trump Class interior has been announced...
x.com

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 12:28 PM | Reply

Carriers provide aircraft capable of firing from hundreds of miles away.

These are DOA with hypersonic missiles. You're fighting the last world war.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 12:29 PM | Reply


Yamato Class was 71,659 tons.
Iowa Class was 57,540 tons.
Bismarck Class was 51,800 tons.

So, the USS Lewzer Class is nowhere near the biggest. Not even in the top 10.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL

The idea hopefully for the USN is to be cheap. Because you're going to need quite a few of them.

But knowing how bad MIC is, they will just buy their stock back. And delay delay delay (this is what we are really laughing about)

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 12:31 PM | Reply

Do you have any evidence that different alloys or materials have been used

Lewzer doesn't want that. He wants good old US made steel. He said the modern ship hulls start to melt when a missile gets within 2 miles of them.

And adding a fourth arm to the nuclear deterrent? Really? I wonder why no one thought of surface ships as a viable second strike platform before? Maybe because it's a stupid idea?

The only thing that makes this idea less silly than the Zumwalt is the fact that none will ever be built.

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-23 12:58 PM | Reply

Do you have any evidence that different alloys or materials have been used to reduce tonnage of vessels?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-23 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have experience in design of offshore jacketed platforms and tension leg platforms (floaters) with respect to payload.

And yes, increased tinsel strength in steels can reduce the weight of the vessel/platform by a significant amount.

#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-23 12:58 PM | Reply

"I have experience in design of offshore jacketed platforms and tension leg platforms (floaters) with respect to payload."

That's really cool. I had no idea that Call of Duty was such a complex game.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-12-23 01:01 PM | Reply

I have experience in design
#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You're educated?
Wow.

What happened? You're dumb as fuck now.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-12-23 01:03 PM | Reply

Guess they told him pirate ships were out of the question.

#35 | Posted by qcp at 2025-12-23 01:05 PM | Reply

Amathia. Willful ignorance.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-12-23 01:05 PM | Reply


That's really cool. I had no idea that Call of Duty was such a complex game.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy

The designer of CallOfDuty just died in an automobile accident.
www.forbes.com

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 01:16 PM | Reply


What happened? You're dumb as fuck now.
#34 | Posted by snoofy

And yet, still appears smarter than you.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 01:17 PM | Reply

Yamato Class was 71,659 tons.
Iowa Class was 57,540 tons.
Bismarck Class was 51,800 tons.

So, the USS Lewzer Class is nowhere near the biggest. Not even in the top 10.

#18 | Posted by REDIAL

Turns out today's modern warship doesn't carry armor.

Once again, weapons technology reared its ugly head, and naval armor disappeared. The reason is fairly simple: the development of guided missiles and torpedoes rendered most naval armor completely ineffective. Moreover, by getting rid of the heavy, thick plates of armor on modern navy warships, navies have improvedtheir vessels' speed and maneuverability. So naval armor isn't necessary because it's expensive to purchase and maintain, it's ineffective against modern arms, and using it offers a net negative to warfighters " at least for now.
www.slashgear.com

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 01:20 PM | Reply

Turns out today's modern warship doesn't carry armor.

That's Lewzer's big beef. He wants them armoured. Big, badass steel hulls like the good old days. But prettier.

If you can see that Lewezer is just an idiot, it all makes more sense.

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-12-23 01:24 PM | Reply

Before this is done, Trump will rescind the 1909 order abolishing wooden figureheads on the bows US Navy ships so he can have larger-than-lifesized(?) carvings of underage mermaids with yuuge ... prospects.

#41 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-12-23 01:39 PM | Reply

And yes, increased tinsel strength in steels can reduce the weight of the vessel/platform by a significant amount.

#32 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Cool. But how does that apply to naval vessels?

It's my understanding that the primary defenses against sinking is compartmentalization to limit damage and control flooding. Complex internal structures = more steel needed.

Also, would high tensile steels be what are used for naval ships? Or would you want softer steel to absorb and deform when struck, rather than shatter or crack?

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-23 01:46 PM | Reply

And yet, still appears smarter than you.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-12-23 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

It really doesn't take a lot to accomplish that.

#43 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-23 01:56 PM | Reply

I had no idea

#33 | Posted by donnerboy

Just like most everything you comment on.

#44 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-23 01:58 PM | Reply

Also, would high tensile steels be what are used for naval ships? Or would you want softer steel to absorb and deform when struck, rather than shatter or crack?

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2025-12-23 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stronger steels mean less steel in a lot of applications.

-rather than shatter or crack?

Steels (and weldments) go through what's called Charpy Impact testing. Toughness = a materials ability to absorb impact.

nucor.com

#45 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-12-23 02:04 PM | Reply

#43 Perhaps Left Hind Turds and onepigironheadedsmoothbrainaut should get a room together and stop this embarrassing PDA.

You're welcome.

#46 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-23 02:06 PM | Reply

Grift, Ego, or Revenge?, Part III: "Trump-Class" Battleships

And now, an item that is clearly about Donald Trump's ego. The President has long carped about the Navy's ships, and his primary complaint is that they are... ugly. After all, most of them have been at sea for a while, and so there's some rust, and some worn paint, and some barnacles, and the like. So, as he did during Trump v1.0, he is going to try to overhaul the fleet. Last week, the Navy announced construction of a new class of frigates, and yesterday Trump himself announced the construction of a new class of battleships and a new class of aircraft carriers.

The President offered very little detail about the aircraft carriers, but he had much to say about the battleships. For example, he revealed that the first ship in the new class will be the U.S.S. Defiant (have they been showing Star Trek: Deep Space Nine reruns at Mar-a-Lago?), and that it would be ready for duty in 2 years. He also said that the new ships will be "100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built," which we assume uses the same math as his claim that prescription drug prices would drop by 400%, 500%, 600%. Trump noted that the battleships would be the centerpiece of a new "Golden Fleet" (he didn't say actual gold decorations would be used, but you have to assume they will be). Oh, and he also mentioned that the new class of ships would be known as the Trump-class. Maybe, just maybe, that is why he's so interested in them.

One wonders if Pete Hegseth or someone else has been reading a book about the Navy at the turn of the 20th century. That was when battleships were the king of warships (before being displaced by aircraft carriers in World War II, and then arguably by smaller, more maneuverable ships in the last 20-30 years). Further, in 1907, then-president Theodore Roosevelt, in a display of American power and penis size, dispatched a fleet of 16 battleships known as the Great White Fleet to sail around the globe. They were known by that name because they were painted white (though also because they were promoting the superiority of the white race, even if that wasn't stated openly). It can't be a coincidence that Trump's battleship fleet is going to be known as the Golden Fleet, can it be? Certainly, while the color of the ships may be different than in TR's time, the other parts of the mission are exactly the same.

We also assume that everyone, except Trump, knows that any class of ships is named after the first ship of that class. So, if these ships come to fruition (and the ones from Trump v1.0 did not, so don't assume anything) these are going to be Defiant-class ships. We also assume everyone, except Trump, knows that no ship is ever completed on schedule, and that when this one is done (again, if it ever is), his presidency will be over, or nearly so. And, at that point, everyone will just use the correct convention, and call them Defiant-class.

Clearly, the people in Trump's orbit have realized that puffing up his ego is their job right now, and that it doesn't especially matter if "Trump-class" or "The Donald J. Trump and John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts" or "Trump Accounts" or "The Arc de Trump" have very little chance of keeping his name beyond January 20, 2029. (Z)

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-23 02:11 PM | Reply

Actual words of the Trump:

"as Commander in Chief it is my great honor to announce that I have approved a plan for the Navy to begin the construction of two brand new very large, the largest we've ever built - battleships. you know, we used to build - we had big battleships. these are bigger. but they will have one hundred times the" um, they'll be one hundred times the force, the power" and, uh, there's never been anything like these ships ... . 'cause I said, why aren't we doing battleships like we used to. and the, uh - these are the best in the world. they'll be the fastest, the biggest, and by far, one hundred times for powerful than any - battleship ever built. if you take the biggest one, it's one hundred times more powerful, uhhhhh" they're longer, by - a little bit. but uh, the - and they're bigger, they're bigger ships. they hold much more - they use the word 'lethality.'"

Yep.

That's who has the nuclear codes.

#48 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-12-23 02:21 PM | Reply

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