They are s butt hurt over a speech that rightly called them out for their retreat from Western values that they now see the US as an adversary? How thin skinned can they be? These are supposed to be leaders of countries.

#10. Know American common sense of warning them, for the sake of their own countries, about the direction they are moving.

In the UK people get arrested for silently praying within 200 meters of an abortion clinic.

This is a brief transcript from CBS News:

" Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?

Svenja Meininghaus: Yes.

Sharyn Alfonsi: And it's a crime to insult them online as well?

Svenja Meininghaus: Yes.

Dr. Matthus Fink: The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the internet.

Vance was spot-on:

" A 2022 New York Times article includes several examples of outrageous censorship under the law.

A 51-year-old man had his home raided after he shared a quote online that was falsely attributed to a German politician. "Just because someone rapes, robs or is a serious criminal is not a reason for deportation," the fake quote read. The police seized his laptop and tablet as evidence in the case.

Prosecutors said it didn't matter whether the man knew the quote was fake, he would face a fine of more than $1,400 anyway because "the accused bears the risk of spreading a false quote without checking it."

Another social media user landed in hot water after comparing Covid restrictions to the Holocaust, though the article doesn't say whether the person was ultimately convicted.

A journalist in Berlin got a man prosecuted for calling him "stupid" and mentally ill online. The man was hit with a more than $1,000 fine for the remarks.

Another man was ordered to pay a fine of more than $2,500 after he blamed a politician who was murdered in 2019 for the politician's own death because he had refused a security detail. The 49-year-old man said Walter Lbcke had "himself to blame." A judge found the man's statement had effectively condoned the politician's murder.

Despite all this, CBS seems to celebrate Germany's censorship and question the merits of free speech that Vance touts, writes NR's Jeffrey Blehar, who points out that neither Europeans nor CBS seem to get free speech."

More from NRO

" The most infamous example of an online hate speech case in Germany happened in 2021, when an internet user had their home raided for calling a local politician a "pimmel," or "penis" online. The incident became known as "Pimmelgate."

In another case, an offender was fined nearly $4,000 for posting that refugee children should play in electrical wires"

" Again their free speech is different than ours. Why do you feel so arrogant that you can tell them how to run their own country??

#14 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-02-18 11:59 PM | FLAG: "

They are not being told how to run their country. It's being pointed out to them that they are on a bad path. Consider it an intervention.

I just posted several examples. What would your reaction be if a person was fined $4000 for calling Trump a Dick online?

Laura Mohr,

Obviously that's not how Germany runs theirs. The point is what I just posted shouldn't happen in any country that has Western values.

During an interview Historian/classicist Victor Davis Hanson made the comment that censorship is the twin of failure.

#23 The AP didn't get arrested and hit with thousands of dollars in fines.

And for the record, I vehemently disagree with AP being kicked out of the press briefing room.

#26 Fox news did too in the aftermath of the 2020 election.

"You're such a clown.

#31 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-02-19 09:35 AM | REPLY"

A true clown calls an ally an adversary over a spot-on interventionist speech. But, here we are.

"Because it's the "Gulf of Mexico", right?

#32 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-02-19 09:36 AM"

Yes. Here is the thing though - the left changes language all of the time. What is a woman? Birthing person? Egg producer? Person with a uterus?

Then, throw in terms like Latinx....the point is, don't get all butt-hurt when your actions get turned back around on you.

"JD is an enemy, too. Worse, for being such a simpering toad of a villain.

#33 | POSTED BY ZED"

Ah. Already setting the table to keep your psychosis going once 'Donald' is no longer in office.

So, now free speech is fascism?

Wow! You really do need to see a therapist.

Look at posts #12 and #15, Zed. That is what Vance called out. Please try to defend and justify what Germany is doing. Then move on to the UK. Arresting people for silent prayer among other things.

I don't expect that you will though. As you've inched past the goal line of clinical insanity your ability to be even remotely rational appears to have been lost.

#40. I knew you couldn't do it. For a while I was amused by your absurdity. Now I'm kinda saddened by it. You are not mentally well. This everyone to the right of you is Thanos is not healthy. You really do need to see a therapist. You are conjuring up things in your mind that you are convinced have happened but in fact have not happened. The purging of books that mention slavery being a prime example

" So Zed and Truth have completely lost their grips on reality... wow.

#41 | POSTED BY KWRX25 AT 2025-02-19 10:25 AM | FLAG: "

Yep. It's sad.

" JD and Trump made that speech advocating fascism under the color of "free speech"

So advocating free speech is fascism?

Wow. You really do need to seek help, Zed. This is unhealthy.

" No they didn't get kicked out of WH briefings, liar"

I didn't say they did, ------.

Clownshack referenced lawsuits against left wing outlets and I pointed out the one against Fox.

" Jeff seems to be unaware of the path that Germany went down a few times when speech wasn't policed.
#58 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-02-19 01:18 PM | FLAG: "

Oh, so now you are on the idiotic bandwagon that free speech caused the Holocaust?

That is retarded.

And try and defend what was posted in #12 and #15, pimmel.

Zed,

I don't hate you (although I'm sure you absolutely loathe me). I want you to get help. I suspect you are a law abiding citizen and a faithful and devoted husband. See a therapist. Don't throw all of that goodness away over your insane Trump obsession.

Oh, so now I'm a Nazi. You are ridiculous, Zed.

" I want you to state definitively that Germany should do away with its laws prohibiting holocaust denialism and pro-nazi speech."

They don't have 1A. So, as far as restricting speech goes I think given their history those 2 specific examples are justifiable.

Now, try and defend #12 and # 15. Or, be sane and acknowledge that it goes way too far.

Given the current state of crashing down on freedom of expression and anulling an election flimsy terms, Vance was 100% spot on. It was a bit reminiscent of Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech.

My guess is Twoothy hates that speech to this day. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.

" Dems didn't kick fox out of the press corps even AFTER fox argued in court that they're just entertainment, not news.

#81 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-02-19 02:24 PM | FLAG: "

Obama did. But then Fox's peers thoroughly denounced it and Obama backed off.

" t a patriotic american who spends his days defending nazis and spreading fascist propaganda.

#83 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-02-19 02:25 PM | FLAG: "

You said pretty much the same thing but with sugar coating.

" So, to be clear, jeff is fine with Germany limiting free speech, he just doesn't agree with Germany limiting free speech.

jeff is not too bright.

#87 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-02-19 02:29 PM | FLAG: "

No, ------. Germany is not bound by 1A. So, if they are going to impose speech limits the 2 examples you brought up are justifiable. However they've moved way beyond that.

Care to address #12 and 15? I bet you won't. Now I just laid down a challenge.

None of you have addressed people being arrested in the UK for praying in silence within 600 feet of an abortion clinic.

#92. You are trying so hard to avoid what I posted in 12 and 15 Further, who decides what is and isn't factual? NY Post scooped the laptop story. At the time, those in power deemed it Eussia disinformation. As it turns out the reporting was factual. Yet, under the fascist tyranny you seek the Post would have been convicted of a crime for telling an uncomfortable truth. So spare me your Nazi -------- and look in the mirror.

" ognize I am not familiar enough with the specifics of how those laws are implemented, i.e. whether your alleged examples are factual or reasonable in context of German law."

You are such a weasel. Those aren't "alleged" examples. They happened and are only a few out of approximately 700 examples of this garbage over the past few years.

Vance was 100% spot on calling it out. These are western allies. They are moving away from longstanding western values. The speech was more of an appeal to their citizens who are being victimized by their leadership.

I hope he continues with this.

Just stumbled across this tidbit

" Of course, Germany's massive censorship effort has done little to deter the thriving neo-Nazi movement. What it has done is chill the speech of ordinary citizens. One poll of German citizens found that only 18% of Germans feel free to express their opinions in public. Only 17% felt free to express themselves on the internet. "

What is amazing to me is how much the left has come to despise and vehemently oppose freedom of speech. FFS - when the left was a bunch of rag-tag hippies they were tremendous advocates for freedom speech.

" Republicans love rape.

#116 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-19 02:55 PM | FLAG: "

Rape, arson, murder and rape.

You said rape twice.

I like rape.

" Vance went to the Munich Security Summit and whined about alleged assaults on free speech and didn't say a word on the Russian invasion of Ukraine"

He explained why -he believes they have a bigger problem from within. And he methodically laid out his argument. Surely you disagree with him but he called it as he sees it.

" Of course you do.

#127 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-02-19 03:01 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

It was a quote from Blazing Saddles. But you don't possess a sense of humor ...

They aren't a "Nazi party" you complete moron. They are characterized as such by elites desperately trying to hold power.

If you can show me where they are actually embracing any form of Nazi ideology please do so.

" I'd like you hear you condemn Putin"

Putin is an ex-KGB thug of Communist Russia. Of course he's a POS. Now I'd love to see you condemn Communism. I bet you can't.

" He'd sooner say something nice about Obama than condemn Hitler.

#146 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-19 03:13 PM | FLAG: "

Hitler was a human monster. Pure evil. Obama is an ideological Chicago politics thug. He's not evil though. Not even close. No comparison between the 2.

" How did obama do that when it wasn't til 2021 that fox argued they're not news and shouldnt be trusted as such?

#157 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-02-19 03:27 PM | FLAG: "

Obama attempted to kick Fox out of the press room.

Also Fox as a network didn't proclaim to be entertainment, just certain segments. The clip of a coin between Hannity and Maddow.

" Trump is a pure evil human monster too. Yet you spend every day defending him.

#158 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-02-19 03:27 PM | FLAG: "

He's no Hitler. Or Mao. Or Stalin. Or Pol Pot.

FFS Danforth.

I'm hoping you are just joking.

" For example, how do you feel about loyalty questions on government job applications?"

I feel the same way about it as I've felt about mandated DEI loyalty pledges for position consideration in academia.

Hopefully that answered your question.

" One of my big fears is Trump isn't around and Vance takes over.

#173 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-02-19 04:01 PM | FLAG: "

Where do you place him on the evil scale?

Hannibal Lecter
Pol Pot
Hitler
Stalin
Mao
Thanos
The demon from The Excorcist
Satan
Ted Cruz
DeSantis
Musk
Trump
Vance?

Apologies for putting evil lefty monster on the list.

" Condemn Putin.

That was the first thing you were asked to do.

#175 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-02-19 04:04 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

I did. Scroll up

" Every republican is the worst one of all time.

Until the next one comes along.
#177 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2025-02-19 04:08 PM | FLAG: "

100%

Zed

Scroll up. I honored your initial request. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over.

Zed,

You are completely off your rocker. Holy heck. Wow.

Zed believes I'm a genocidal Nazi. This is pure insanity. I've been advocating therapy but maybe a padded room is what is needed. Wow. So sad.

Here is the thing.

If we lived in Germany and you all made the same claims - that I'm a Nazi - you'd be arrested and charged with a crime - hate speech. Way to make Vance's point for him.

Normally if someone slandered me with a Nazi label I would tell them to literally ---- their own face. But Zed doesn't do it from malice. He does it from clinical insanity. So I feel pity for him.

" I was joking about the loss/setbacks in my life.

I've experienced plenty. I'm lucky and blessed but not without setbacks and loss. Real stuff

#243 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2025-02-19 08:26 PM | FLAG: "

Same. I made a huge mistake of sharing a personal one on this site - my dad's death.

" Why was it a mistake?

Were you mocked for it?"

Every single time Reinhegetbot addresses me it's "Patricide Jeff" followed by accusing me of killing my dad with horse paste.

Beginning of May 2022 both of my parents caught Covid. Both had followed the vax schedule and both had 4 shots over a period of 18 months. Their symptoms weren't serious. Weeks later I vacationed with them over Memorial Day and both were fine. 3 weeks later, at a grad party my dad looked like crap. 2 days later we checked him into the ER. He had a good recovery and got moved to a rehab facility to transition him back home. He declined and when was checked back in was close to death. My wife and I were vacationing with friends 4 hours away. We cut the trip short and got to the hospital just before he died. He wasn't conscious but we were able to talk to him before he passed. He wasn't prescribed Ivermectin and he never took it.

The only reason I'm sharing this now is because it's already out there. The first time I shared it was about a year after his passing and I was hurting. Danforth was the epitome of class in recognizing my pain at the time.

Reinhegetsbot works himself into a masurbatory frenzy rubbing my dad's death in my face every single time he responds to one of my posts. And he lies while doing so.

That is why I say I made a mistake in sharing thst.

" I'm sorry.

#257 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-02-19 09:01 PM | REPLY"

Thank you.

" #260 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-02-19 09:09 PM | FLAG: "

Thank you for the kind and thoughtful comment.

"Hopefully it will lead to their suicides, but unfortunately, they are ------- and the whining will continue.

#47 | Posted by fortfisher

#270 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-02-19 10:04 PM | FLAG: "

Yep, bad. Now do LGH. and heck, do yourself.