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More: When Justice Department officials reviewed what Attorney General Pam Bondi called a "truckload" of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein earlier this year, they discovered that Donald Trump's name appeared multiple times, according to senior administration officials.

In May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files, the officials said. Many other high-profile figures were also named, Trump was told.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-07-23 03:18 PM | Reply

He knew he was, everyone that Epstein talked to was in the files.

It doesn't matter who is in the files, the question is what did they do

This doesn't really mean anything.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-23 03:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

@#1 ... In May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files, the officials said. ...

This is looking more and more like a cover-up.

But. what is there to cover-up?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-23 03:29 PM | Reply

MAGAs love their pedo king

#4 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-07-23 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Release the videos! President Pedo for Prison!

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-23 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This doesn't really mean anything.
#2 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

So you're saying Trump can stop squirming?

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-07-23 03:43 PM | Reply

Oh no Trump lied again

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-07-23 04:09 PM | Reply

Reminder that one of -------- first acts upon taking office was getting the sex pest Tate brothers out of a Romanian prison

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-23 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

www.youtube.com

these kids do an excellent job on this story

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-23 05:10 PM | Reply

Release the files or stop pretending it's about justice when it's really about covering for Trump

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-07-23 05:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#11 | Posted by zarnon at 2025-07-23 05:21 PM | Reply

He knew he was, everyone that Epstein talked to was in the files.

It doesn't matter who is in the files, the question is what did they do

This doesn't really mean anything.

Pedo apologist says what?

#12 | Posted by zarnon at 2025-07-23 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump denies he was told his name was in the Epstein files, and flails and fails to deflect to everyone but him.

#13 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-23 05:34 PM | Reply

This doesn't really mean anything.

#2 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-07-23 03:23 PM | REPLY

Right. The AG told the POTUS this (and didn't tell the public) and then abruptly ended an investigation ... . because it really doesn't mean anything.

#14 | Posted by anton at 2025-07-23 05:42 PM | Reply

Its a great irony that QAnon helped trump get elected when their entire platform is stopping pedophiles.

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm sure Republican-Led Congress will get right on this and not go on summer break!

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-23 05:43 PM | Reply

Yawn.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-07-23 05:44 PM | Reply

yeah trump constantly lying is getting pretty boring.

i wish we had a human being for a president.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 05:49 PM | Reply

#17 | Posted by visitor_

Careful Trump doesn't try to slip his dingy in your gaping mouth, cultist!

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-07-23 05:49 PM | Reply

Odd that when Democrats had to power to release the documents it was crickets. Now that Biden's auto-pen stooges had time to obliterate all chain of custody of the documents, these claims are being made. Given all of the false charges leveled against Trump over the last 12 years if there was anything incriminating it would have been leaked by now. So yawn.

#20 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-07-23 05:57 PM | Reply

This isnt going away.

im betting the WSJ releases the birthday card soon. Murdoch should counter sue so trump is forced into discovery.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 05:59 PM | Reply

Ghislaine Maxwell Subpoenaed By House Oversight Committee

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer announced Wednesday that he issued a subpoena for sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell, the accomplice of the late Jeffrey Epstein.

It will require her to testify at a deposition Aug. 11 at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tallahassee, Florida.

via huffpost

#22 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 | Posted by visitor_
Careful Trump doesn't try to slip his dingy in your gaping mouth, cultist!

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11

Visitor is over the age of 15 so he is probably safe.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-23 06:04 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by visitor_

What did the Dems leak? It seemed like all the leaks against Trump were by his own administration. And the Steele dossier wasn't released, or even seriously talked about, until after the election. If they actually wanted to use it for their gain, why did they not release it before the election?

Just because you, and other Republicans, would and do leak things for your personal and political gain does not mean that Dems lack the same morals and ethics.

#24 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-07-23 06:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

PRESIDENT PEDO HAS TO GO!

#25 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-23 06:14 PM | Reply

The "Biden didn't release it, ergo Trump is a saint" defense/dodge is spectacularly stupid, even by MAGAt standards.

#26 | Posted by anton at 2025-07-23 06:15 PM | Reply

#26 - yeah, I don't think they hear themselves.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-23 06:23 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by oneironaut

LOL!!!

This clown, like ol' visitor, is just pure stupid.

#28 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-07-23 06:25 PM | Reply

@#22 ... It will require her to testify at a deposition Aug. 11 at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tallahassee, Florida. ...

But apparently not before Pres Trump's former defense attorney, Mr Blanche, has had a chance to sit down with Ms Maxwell for a ~chat.~


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-23 06:27 PM | Reply

@#27 ... I don't think they hear themselves. ...

Conspiracy theorists don't realize they're on the fringe
arstechnica.com

... Belief in conspiracy theories is often attributed to some form of motivated reasoning: People want to believe a conspiracy because it reinforces their worldview, for example, or doing so meets some deep psychological need, like wanting to feel unique.

However, it might also be driven by overconfidence in their own cognitive abilities, according to a paper published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. The authors were surprised to discover that not only are conspiracy theorists overconfident, they also don't realize their beliefs are on the fringe, massively overestimating by as much as a factor of four how much other people agree with them.

"I was expecting the overconfidence finding," co-author Gordon Pennycook, a psychologist at Cornell University, told Ars. "If you've talked to someone who believes conspiracies, it's self-evident.

I did not expect them to be so ready to state that people agree with them. I thought that they would overestimate, but I didn't think that there'd be such a strong sense that they are in the majority. It might be one of the biggest false consensus effects that's been observed." ...


#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-23 06:30 PM | Reply

Odd that when Democrats had to power to release the documents it was crickets. Now that Biden's auto-pen stooges had time to obliterate all chain of custody of the documents, these claims are being made. Given all of the false charges leveled against Trump over the last 12 years if there was anything incriminating it would have been leaked by now. So yawn.
#20 | Posted by visitor_

The Biden administration and DOJ were bound by federal grand jury secrecy laws and court precedents, which prohibit them from releasing the Epstein files unless a judge specifically orders their disclosure through an established legal process. Neither the Trump nor Biden administrations had the legal authority to release the files on their own[1][2][3][9].

[1] www.bbc.com
[2] www.foxnews.com
[3] 6abc.com
[4] www.npr.org
[5] www.newsweek.com
[6] abc7ny.com
[7] www.opb.org
[8] www.politico.com
[9] abcnews.go.com
[10] oversight.house.gov

Biden followed the law. Trump and Bondi promised to break this law, then decided to lie to the public stating that the Epstein files didn't exist at all. Then lied again claiming the files were manufactured by B. Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton, something he now refers to as a witch hunt. And guess what's now being leaked? HAHAHA! Nice self-own, cultist!

#31 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-07-23 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Isn't it ironic what started with Pizzagate, the Right's fixation on pedophilia (which weirdly parallels the Catholic church ... hmm), may be the undoing of the Orange Pedo?

#32 | Posted by gavaster at 2025-07-23 06:38 PM | Reply

This doesn't really mean anything.

#2 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

And just like that, this isn't really that big of a deal.

You're such a piece of s*^%.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 06:51 PM | Reply

Yawn.

#17 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

And just like that, sex trafficking children isn't a big deal.

You're a piece of s^*+.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 06:53 PM | Reply

Odd that when Democrats had to power to release the documents it was crickets. Now that Biden's auto-pen stooges had time to obliterate all chain of custody of the documents, these claims are being made. Given all of the false charges leveled against Trump over the last 12 years if there was anything incriminating it would have been leaked by now. So yawn.

#20 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You. Are. A. Piece. Of. F^*+ing. S*^%.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 06:54 PM | Reply

The Biden administration and DOJ were bound by federal grand jury secrecy laws and court precedents, which prohibit them from releasing the Epstein files unless a judge specifically orders their disclosure through an established legal process.

These pieces of s%^* project their own lack of character, integrity, principles, morals ect onto everyone else around them.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 06:56 PM | Reply

You are delusional if believe grand jury testimony implicating Trump would not have been leaked. Hell, they imagineered the Russiagate hoax out of nothing.

#37 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-07-23 07:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

they were sealed dumb ----. trump ran on unsealing them.

you will defend trump no matter what. no morals.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 07:35 PM | Reply

#37 talk about delusional.

MAGA is a mental disorder.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 07:37 PM | Reply

I expect that Maxwell will be happy to tell MAGA whatever Trump wants her it for a Pardon.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-23 07:43 PM | Reply

Pardon me I didn't catch that. Please repeat that Corky.

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-23 07:46 PM | Reply

"You are delusional if believe grand jury testimony implicating Trump would not have been leaked."

You mean, like, what the Wall Street Journal is reporting?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-23 07:47 PM | Reply

Odd that when Democrats had to power to release the documents it was crickets.
#20 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Aren't Republicans supposed to be better than Democrats?

Why not prove it by releasing the documents.

Everybody knows why.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-23 07:48 PM | Reply

Yup. Trump is a pedo.

Sorry, according to jeff j the girls he boned weren't pre pubescent. He's also not surprised Trump is mixed up in the files. (see how vile this sounds, jeffy?)

#44 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 08:10 PM | Reply

Jeffrey Epstein Update: Read The Deposition That Ghislaine Maxwell Fought To Hide (2020)
www.npr.org

... Ghislaine Maxwell's answers to questions about the sex-trafficking operation she allegedly ran with the late Jeffrey Epstein were made public Thursday as a federal court released Maxwell's 2016 deposition. The transcript is more than 400 pages long, but it has been redacted to protect the privacy of some people it mentions.

The transcript is finally being unsealed after a back-and-forth legal battle between Maxwell and Virginia Giuffre, who has accused Maxwell, Epstein and others of sexually abusing her when she was a minor. In it, Maxwell repeatedly denies "recruiting" girls for Epstein or taking part in orgies and other activities. ...



#45 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-23 08:13 PM | Reply

No surprises.

www.npr.org

In Giuffre's deposition unsealed earlier this year, she ran down a list of prominent men with whom she said she was told to have sex, including Britain's Prince Andrew, former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell and the attorney Alan Dershowitz. All of those men have denied the allegations.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-23 08:17 PM | Reply

Oh and I think this story breaking in the WSJ again is the early moves in the plan to depose Trump.

They were able to use him to get the foundation laid and now the fall guy is going down since the constant chaos and bulls^%# isn't needed for cover anymore.

So, they're gonna use the very outlets and stories that brought maga to power to destroy it.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-23 08:34 PM | Reply

Surely, when the DOJ and Pam Bondi met with Trump in May, they also told him in what context his name was mentioned. Therein lies the crux.

#48 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-07-23 08:38 PM | Reply

- they also told him in what context his name was mentioned.

And it's pretty obvious that it is in an incriminating context; were it in a benign context, he wouldn't be scared sh-less and Distracting to Obama, of all people.

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-23 08:41 PM | Reply

Jeffrey Epstein's defense attorney Roy Black died at age 80 in Florida: thehill.com

#50 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-23 09:10 PM | Reply

"Release the videos!
#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead"

Why am I not surprised that LegallyRetarded is calling for child porn videos to be released....

I think we can all agree - if there was a video of Trump having sex with a minor, the FBI/CIA would have leaked it by now or Rein would have leaked it from his personal collection.

Same goes with this nonsense - "Trump's name is in the file" - this is an attempted smear. We know Trump appeared on flight logs between NYC and Miami. We know he never went to Pedo Island. However, the Democrats are going to run with this new nonsense because they know their followers are too stupid to differentiate between a plane ride commute between NYC and Miami and a pedo-blackmail flight to his island.

And again - if there was ANYTHING incriminating against Trump - it would have already leaked. We know this because Obama and the Deepstate had to 100% fabricate the entire Russian Collusion Hoax and the ------- Crazy Carroll case because they have literally no dirt on Trump. You think they would have ran with Trump paying Stormy not to talk about him banging her if they had Trump having sex with minors documented?

You Democrats are dumber than a bucket of pig ----.

#51 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-23 09:12 PM | Reply

#50

That was convenient/s.

Is there 3 mins missing from the tape?

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-23 09:24 PM | Reply

dekerivers.wordpress.com

This is just a coincidence, by any 'stretch' of the imagination.

#53 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-23 09:45 PM | Reply

"bla bla bla You Democrats are dumber than a bucket of pig ----."

OK Pedo

#54 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-07-23 11:22 PM | Reply

"OK Pedo
#54 | Posted by dibblda"

I have no problem with pedos getting their necks stretched for their crimes against children. That would apply to Trump should your wildass, unsupported allegations prove to be true, or the pedos we have that regularly post on this board (LegallyRetarded and Rein among them).

#55 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 12:07 AM | Reply

"I have no problem with pedos getting their necks stretched for their crimes against children. That would apply to Trump should your wildass, unsupported allegations prove to be true"

Sure, whatever you say scooter. Keep running defense for pedos.

#56 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-07-24 12:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#56 | Posted by dibblda"

Now you are blaming MAGA? Your potato-brained, pedo was president from 2021 to 2024 and did nothing with this 'data' - which suggests it does not exist or they would have used it.

#57 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 02:01 AM | Reply

Ghislaine Maxwell Subpoenaed By House Oversight Committee

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer announced Wednesday that he issued a subpoena for sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell, the accomplice of the late Jeffrey Epstein.

#22 | Posted by Alexandrite

It smells of cover up with Blanche visiting Maxwell in prison before she testifies before the committee. To dangle an eventual pardon if she plays ball and denies Trump involvement before the committee, like Tom Hagen's visit to Frank Pantageli in The Godfather II before his Senate testimony?

#58 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-07-24 04:29 AM | Reply

#58 - Yep. This is the most corrupt "pResident" in this nation's history.

#59 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-24 08:00 AM | Reply

MAGA said the same crap about Trump's "beautiful" tax returns. After they were obtained through about seven years of litigation by Trump to keep them secret, he was sued and found liable for hundreds of millions in tax fraud, banking fraud, insurance fraud, etc.

If there is any information about Trump in these files that is favorable to him it would already be on Truth Social and in downloadable pdf files on the WH homepage,

It's time to grow up MAGAts and be larvae no more. Your cult leader is a pedo.

#60 | Posted by anton at 2025-07-24 08:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You Democrats are dumber than a bucket of pig ----.

#51 | Posted by ScottS

Says the stupid pile of s(*& who's argument boils down to 'everyone isn't as big a corrupt piece of s*&^ as myself or Trump, so it can't be true!'

#61 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-24 09:10 AM | Reply

Your potato-brained, pedo was president from 2021 to 2024 and did nothing with this 'data' - which suggests it does not exist or they would have used it.

#57 | Posted by ScottS

Or, more likely, you're such a stupid pile of s*&^ that you're unaware of how unusual Trump's forced involvement with DoJ is.

#62 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-24 09:11 AM | Reply

The future POTUS and First Daughter Ivanka: img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net

#63 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-24 10:30 AM | Reply

That would apply to Trump should your wildass, unsupported allegations prove to be true, or the pedos we have that regularly post on this board (LegallyRetarded and Rein among them).

#55 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Why are you still talking about this?

You must be one of the foolish stupid maggats Trumpy is referring to. He doesn't need YOU any more!

Them Dems done duped you again! Did you enjoy your hook line and sinker?

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-24 11:34 AM | Reply

On the one hand given the measures Dems took to try to jail, bankrupt and have Trump deliver

Removed from the ballot, logic would follow that if anything within all of the Epstein stuff implicated Trump in any way, it absolutely would have been leaked during Biden's term. On the other hand given how Trump and Bondi played up releasing the files and had an abrupt about face and are now desperately trying to make all of this go away, I totally get the theory that this is now a Trump cover up.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-24 11:42 AM | Reply

#65 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Donald Trump, on one hand he's a convicted criminal, on the other hand he's a failed businessman, and to top that, he's a pedophile.

He's who you wish you were, but you're too fat, stupid and ugly.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 12:06 PM | Reply

" the measures Dems took to try to jail, bankrupt and have Trump ... Removed from the ballot"

Since what you're claiming is Lawfare, you must have an example of him being treated differently than you or I would.

Can you point to them? How about ONE?

I mean ... you can't really pretend it's a witch hunt if you can't produce a single example. Especially after being asked dozens of times.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 12:16 PM | Reply

The Whataboutism logical fallacies here are Legion!

Who knew that if Dems (supposedly) did something wrong before, that made it OK for someone else to do it now?

Rwing "logic". It's almost like they don't want to discuss THIS case.

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 12:28 PM | Reply

#69!!!

With LeetheAgent... coming to a Holiday Inn near you soon!

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 02:54 PM | Reply

" Odd that when Democrats had to power to release the documents it was crickets."

Not odd at all; Bill Clinton's name is on the list as well.

At this point, you can assume the same regarding Trump.

Frankly, I don't believe either of them should be protected.

Bondi's lie dug a huge hole. Trump's lie about (not) learning in May is an even deeper one.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving pair!

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 03:26 PM | Reply

Democrats never campaigned on releasing the list.

Trump did.

Now he's not.

And all you can do is cry about democrats.

Womp womp.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 03:33 PM | Reply

Trump is bleeding Independents like 1Nut on the rag:

thehill.com

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 04:15 PM | Reply

If it walks like a duck ... and quacks like a duck ... and swims in a pond like a duck ... . It almost certainly a duck.

I personally have no doubt that Trump is a pedophile.

#73 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-07-24 04:30 PM | Reply

"Since what you're claiming is Lawfare, you must have an example of him being treated differently than you or I would.
I mean ... you can't really pretend it's a witch hunt if you can't produce a single example. Especially after being asked dozens of times.
#67 | Posted by Danforth"

And thus completes Danforth's transformation from a repeatedly debunked liar into a dumber version of Lamplighter repeatedly asking for links to information that is already common knowledge.

#74 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 07:52 PM | Reply

Can Ghislaine Maxwell be trusted to tell the truth about Jeffrey Epstein?
July 24, 2025, 4:02 PM CDT / Updated July 24, 2025, 5:20 PM CDT

As the uproar over the Epstein files continues, prosecutors say the late sex offender's longtime accomplice has a history of lying. Her defense lawyer says she will speak truthfully.

On Thursday, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche met with Jeffrey Epstein's longtime accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell for several hours in a Florida U.S. attorney's office. On Aug. 11, Maxwell is scheduled for a jailhouse deposition sought by the House Oversight Committee.

As the uproar over the Epstein files continues, a central question is whether Maxwell can be trusted to tell the truth.

#75 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-07-24 08:59 PM | Reply

"#75 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

It is very easy for liberals to determine if she is lying:

1.) If she implicates Trump - she is telling the truth
2.) If she does not implicate Trump - she is lying

So, we just need her actual testimony and then the lying MSM can run with their pre-written articles.

#76 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 09:26 PM | Reply

Maxwell knows what Trump did to Epstein.

She's not stupid.

She won't implicate Trump.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 09:39 PM | Reply

Dear MAGA: You Stormed the Capitol to Protect Epstein's Best Friend?

www.youtube.com

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 09:40 PM | Reply

I;m not gonna believe anything she says, regardless. She's already perjured herself.

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-24 09:44 PM | Reply

They appear to setting her up to implicate Dems and to exonerate Trump... if she wants a Pardon.

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 09:45 PM | Reply

Where are our resident screechers, yelling WITNESS TAMPERING ... ?

#81 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 09:48 PM | Reply

She's a sex trafficker.

She contributed the Donald Trump Raping underage girls.

Anyone defending Trump doesn't see anything wrong with a grown man raping a 14 year old girl.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 09:51 PM | Reply

"nformation that is already common knowledge."

Feel free to link to that common knowledge.

So far, NO ONE has been able to point to a single Trump indictment which the average Joe could commit without fear of legal repercussions, despite dozens of asks.

Go ahead. Be the first.

#83 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 10:03 PM | Reply

Preview of the Congressional Testimony:

So, Ms. Maxwell, did you ever see Donald Trump-?

"Oh, no, never! Especially not that time with the 14yr old, and especially ESPECIALLY not that time with the 13yr old."

Well, who did you see?

"Democrats"

Could you be more specific?

"Bill Clinton. Barack Obama. Al Gore. Alan Dershowitz"

He's a Republican.

"Oh, sorry...never saw him. Um...where was I? Oh yes...Clinton...Hilary! And Michelle Obama! And JFK! And McGovern and Hubert Humphrey! Do I get my pardon now???"

#84 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Feel free to link to that common knowledge.
#83 | Posted by Danforth"

I will get right on that Lamplighter. ---- raetard...

#85 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 10:41 PM | Reply

given the measures Dems took to try to jail, bankrupt and have Trump deliver

Jail: He sexually assaulted a woman, cooked the books he gave the government of New York, and stole documents he refused to return.

BullBringer: "outrageous! White people should be able to do that stuff!!"

As for bankrupt, Trump has never needed help accomplishing that. He's doing that currently, on a national scale.

You're too stupid to understand. Don't worry your Xenophobic self about it.

Removed from the ballot,

He's a fxxking criminal you stupid idiot. Do you understand?

We shouldn't allow criminals to become president of the United States.

Especially one who incited a fxxking insurrection.

logic would follow that if anything within all of the Epstein stuff implicated Trump in any way,

It does. Pam Bondi told him it does. You stupid moron.

Do you understand anything?

Or are you too fxxking stupid to comprehend any of this?

#65 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're a fxxking ------ and the only reason you blindly support Trump is because he's hurting the people you believe should get hurt.

You're a fxxking piece of shht.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 10:41 PM | Reply

Trump has always been a delusional liar... see him here for about a minute 1990 failing to convince Baba Wawa that his Bankruptcy was the best business deal made by anyone ever:

www.youtube.com

He has been using this same line for 35 years; we here it almost every day.

#87 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-24 10:57 PM | Reply

"Jail: He sexually assaulted a woman, cooked the books he gave the government of New York, and stole documents he refused to return.
#86 | Posted by ClownShack"

1.) the 'sexual assault' was not a criminal charge and was not even the impetus of the case. The case was about defamation. So, if you want to say he should he be in jail for it, have the balls to demand ------- Crazy Carroll file a criminal charge - I 100% support that. She won't - because everyone knows this would be tossed out of court immediately due to lack of evidence.

2.) He 'cooked the books' in a case that was not prosecuted during the valid statute of limitations because what he did was a standard practice and the accurate way to record the transactions for payments to your lawyer. The Dems needed to invent a new crime - which they never clarified or that he has been convicted of or even charged with to this day.

3.) Stole documents that WERE UNDER HIS SOLE DISCRETION TO DECLASSIFY and thus, perfectly legal for him to possess. Very different from Pedo Biden that stole documents from a SCIF as a senator (no right to take the documents from the SCIF) then stored in his unsecured garage because he wanted to feed them to a ghostwriter. However, you give him a total pass because he allowed the Fed to seize them. Like a bank robber being given a total pass if they give the money back. It is either a crime or it is not - and the Democrats used an unprecedented view of the law to charge Trump.

Your constant repetition of already debunked talking points seem to be a symptom of late stage syphilis - given your degenerate lifestyle and a syphilis infection rate of homosexuals, you should get this treated before your brain is Biden-ized.

#88 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-24 11:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I will get right on that"

Well?

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 11:34 PM | Reply

#88 | POSTED BY SCOTTS

Sexual assault isn't a crime?

Fxxk off, stupid.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-24 11:37 PM | Reply

"Stole documents that WERE UNDER HIS SOLE DISCRETION TO DECLASSIFY"

Two things about that:

One, declassification isn't just a mental process.

Two, if you think that is a good idea, YOU'RE a mental process.

#91 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 11:48 PM | Reply

"what he did was a standard practice and the accurate way to record the transactions "

Manure. Personal expenses, even legal expenses based on personal expenses, are not deductible. If a lawyer authored a NDA for Stormy Daniels, NONE of that fee is deductible, because none of the activities were integral to the business. All personal expenses, none deductible.

Trump also had a bad habit of claiming 30,000 sq ft on his apartment on loan applications, and 10,000 on tax rolls. Could you or I give one number to the loan officers, and another to the county clerk?

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 11:54 PM | Reply

"However, you give him a total pass because he allowed the Fed to seize them."

Well, you have to admit that's different from lying about having them, lying about returning them, getting lawyers to lie about what was returned and what wasn't, enlisting others to assist in the obstruction, and still to this day not returning suspicious security papers.

But you'll give Trump a pass, right?

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-24 11:57 PM | Reply

""I will get right on that"
Well?
#89 | Posted by Danforth"

Seems your inability to detect sarcasm is on par with Lamplighter. Good job ------- - your transformation is complete!

#94 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 12:21 AM | Reply

" your inability to detect sarcasm"

Oh, I can deduct sarcasm.

I can also spot a lie. Go ahead, give an example of Lawfare against Trump. Your three examples were all things NONE of us could do without fear of legal repercussions.

Do you actually have any?

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 12:24 AM | Reply

"#88 | POSTED BY SCOTTS
Sexual assault isn't a crime?
#90 | Posted by ClownShack"

It is if charged and proven in a CRIMINAL COURT - which did not happen in Trump's case. You continually stating this while being continually corrected on it shows that it is not a case of ignorance for you but an intention to lie.

#96 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 12:25 AM | Reply

"It is if charged and proven in a CRIMINAL COURT"

It's also a crime if proven in civil court. Victims have the legal option to pursue either.

#97 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 12:30 AM | Reply

"Trump also had a bad habit of claiming 30,000 sq ft on his apartment on loan applications, and 10,000 on tax rolls.
#92 | Posted by Danforth"

2 different numbers for 2 different purposes -------. If you are talking valuation for tax purposes, it should be stated as the property current stands. If you are talking about the value for a loan officer which may reflect development potential (which is the case for Trump given zoning permissions), you state the values based on the development potential allowed under the law.

For Trump's property, it has triple-height ceilings. Thus, he is able to simple install the 2 floors above and sell the unit for 3x the square feet under the zoning an construction permissions. For the loan officer, this is the value that is relevant to their decision as they want to know what could be recovered in the case the loan failed and they seized the collateral and resold it.

The same applies to Mar a lago. The tax basis for property tax purposes has NOTHING to do with the value of the property in the case it is seized as collateral.

You would understand this if you actually had any wealth or financial sense. However, as you have repeatedly proven - you have neither.

#98 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 12:32 AM | Reply

"2 different numbers for 2 different purposes"

Which is illegal.

"For Trump's property, it has triple-height ceilings"

That doesn't allow you to claim three times the truth. Loan applications don't work that way.

"For the loan officer, this is the value that is relevant to their decision"

Nonsense. It completely ignores the renovation costs, which is a fraudulent misrepresentation.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 12:36 AM | Reply

"It's also a crime if proven in civil court. Victims have the legal option to pursue either.
#97 | Posted by Danforth"

Your understanding of the courts is just as bad as your understanding or taxes and economics.

CIVIL COURTS find LIABILITY

CRIMINAL COURTS find GUILT

No person in the history of United States has been found liable and served a jail sentence based on the finding in a civil court. They are found liable for a TORT.

You have now been fully educated on this. You further repeating your nonsense no longer shows ignorance on your part, but the intention to lie.

#100 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 12:37 AM | Reply

"You would understand this if you actually had any wealth or financial sense."

You've already proven you can't do much other than carry water.

Careful you don't wet yourself.

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 12:37 AM | Reply

Trump is an adjudicated rapist with 25 women that have accused him of various sexual offenses, including rape of a 13 year old kid.

Spin that, -------.

#102 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-25 12:39 AM | Reply

www.politico.com

en.wikipedia.org

#103 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-25 12:41 AM | Reply

"CIVIL COURTS find LIABILITY. CRIMINAL COURTS find GUILT"

If someone is found guilty of a crime in a civil court, they're guilty of a crime.

From Google AI
Civil cases have a much lower standard of guilt and only requires the plaintiff to prove the defendant acted negligently with a 51 percent degree of certainty.

"No person in the history of United States has been found liable and served a jail sentence based on the finding in a civil court"

That wasn't your barometer. it was CRIME.

#104 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 12:42 AM | Reply

Pageant dressing room visits
Trump owned the Miss Universe franchise, which includes Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, from 1996 to 2015.[142][172] In a Howard Stern interview in 2005, he said he made a practice of walking into the contestants' dressing rooms unannounced while the women were undressed:

I'll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. ...You know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant. And therefore I'm inspecting it. ... Is everyone OK? You know, they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good.[172][177]

In that interview, Trump declined to say whether he had slept with any contestants, saying, "It could be a conflict of interest". Stern then imitated a foreign contestant ("Mr. Trump, in my country, we say hello with vagina"), and Trump jokingly responded, "Well, you could also say, as the owner of the pageant, it's your obligation to do that."[178][172]

Miss Teen USA contestants (1997)
Mariah Billado, Miss Vermont Teen USA, is one of five women to mention such a dressing room visit incident in 1997.[179] Billado said of the visit: "I remember putting on my dress really quick, because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here.' Trump, she recalled, said something like, 'Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before.'"[33] Billado recalled talking to Ivanka, Trump's daughter, who responded "Yeah, he does that."[33] Victoria Hughes, Miss New Mexico Teen USA, also said Trump did conduct a dressing room visit, and that the youngest contestant there was 15.[179] The dressing room had 51 contestants, each with their own stations. Eleven girls said they did not see Trump enter the dressing room, though some said it was possible that he had entered while they were somewhere else, or that they did not notice.[127][172][180]

Trump's campaign stated the allegations of his entering the dressing room "have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present".[181]

#105 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-25 12:45 AM | Reply

Bridget Sullivan (2000)
In 2000, Bridget Sullivan was Miss New Hampshire USA. As she prepared for a television broadcast, Trump allegedly walked into the dressing room. She told BuzzFeed he was coming to wish the contestants good luck, but they "were all naked". Some contestants that night do not remember his entering while the ladies prepared and other contestants mentioned that they had no negative experiences with Trump. A spokesman for Trump said Sullivan's claims were "totally false".[33]

Tasha Dixon (2001)
Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona USA 2001, told a CBS affiliate in Los Angeles that in 2001, "[Trump] just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless, other girls were naked." She said that having been walked in on when the women had little or no clothes put them in a "very physically vulnerable position, and then to have the pressure of the people that work for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him ..." Another contestant, Miss California USA 2009 Carrie Prejean Boller, told the same CBS affiliate it was wrong to paint Trump that way.[182] Trump's response, provided through spokeswoman Jessica Ditto, is that: "These accusations have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present," and Ditto adds that she believes there is a political motivation behind the accusation.[33]

Unnamed contestants (2001)
An unnamed Miss USA contestant said that in 2001 Trump walked into her dressing room unannounced while she and another contestant were undressed. She told The Guardian Trump "just barged right in, didn't say anything, stood there and stared at us. ... He didn't walk in and say, 'Oh, I'm so sorry, I was looking for someone.' He walked in, he stood and he stared. He was doing it because he knew that he could." Another contestant told The Guardian the contestant had spoken to others of this event at the time.[33]

Samantha Holvey (2006)
On October 14, 2016, Samantha Carol Holvey, Miss North Carolina USA 2006, related that "Trump's conduct was 'creepy' around the women participating but he never made an advance toward her." She also said that before pageant events, Trump had "moved into areas where she and other contestants were getting ready", and that she had "never been around men that were like that".[183]

More than a year after Trump was elected president, and after many high-profile men, such as Harvey Weinstein, had lost their jobs because of sexual harassment allegations, Holvey wrote: "You can't work in Hollywood if you're a sexual predator, but you can become the commander-in-chief?" She then related how Trump made her feel very uncomfortable at the 2006 Miss USA pageant: "He eyed me like a piece of meat. I was shocked and disgusted. I have never felt so objectified. I left the meet-and-greet hoping that this would be my one and only encounter with him." She also described how he had come backstage unannounced, with Melania Trump: "I was shocked"again"by this violation of our personal space. What was he doing, coming backstage when we were still getting dressed?"[184]

#106 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-25 12:47 AM | Reply

Trump is vile.

#107 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-25 12:47 AM | Reply

""2 different numbers for 2 different purposes"
Which is illegal."

Again, your understanding of the law is just as bad as your understanding of taxes and economics.

In NYC, the property tax is based on the current property descriptions and use - NOT DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL. Hence, if Trump's 10,000sqft home has triple height ceilings, it will base the value on a similar triple height property. For a loan officer, if the value is materially higher assuming you add the 2 floors to triple the salable sqft and that results in a higher resale value, they will use that number because a loan office is concerned with MARKET VALUE INCLUDING DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.

"For Trump's property, it has triple-height ceilings"
That doesn't allow you to claim three times the truth.

If it is fully zoned to allow for it, YES - YOU CAN.

"Loan applications don't work that way."

Yes, THEY DO. It is obvious that you have never done a real estate transaction in which there is development potential for the property. For instance, let's say that you have rental property that is zoned for 4 units, but some past owner combined all the units into a single unit so that is it currently being used as a single unit dwelling (despite the zoning). How will the loan office assess the building - as a single unit or as a 4 unit property?

"For the loan officer, this is the value that is relevant to their decision"
Nonsense. It completely ignores the renovation costs, which is a fraudulent misrepresentation.
#99 | Posted by Danforth"

IN EVERY real estate transaction, the loan applicant puts forth the property in the best possible light and supplies their internal assessment of the properties value. It is the responsibility of the loan officer to apply discounts to that number to assess what they believe the true value is. For instance, if Trump took out a $50M loan and supplied $500M worth of real estate as assessed by him to collateralize it, the $500M valuation from Trump is meaningless. The loan office will assess for themselves and they may conclude the actual value, in their estimation, is $100M. At the end of the day if they assume 2x collateral coverage is sufficient as the original 10x coverage was ridiculously high, they will still give the loan. They don't even need to tell the borrower what their collateral assessment was - just whether it was sufficient for the loan.

Again, in your repeated ridiculous talking points, you prove you have no clue how business actually works.

#108 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 12:51 AM | Reply

"That wasn't your barometer. it was CRIME.
#104 | Posted by Danforth"

Again, raetard, civil courts don't find CRIMES, they find TORTS. Please look up the definitions of each before further embarrassing yourself -------.

Or, ask pretend lawyer LegallyRetarded to explain it to you as I am pretty sure they covered that at the Wakanda U School of Law.

#109 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 01:03 AM | Reply

" It is obvious that you have never done a real estate transaction in which there is development potential for the property."

I grew up around real estate. There's a huge difference between a 30,000 sq ft apartment, and a 10,000 sq ft apartment with tall ceilings. If you can't admit the former is purposely leaving out the conversion costs, you're a math moron.

"It is the responsibility of the loan officer to apply discounts to that number to assess what they believe the true value is."

But they don't physically inspect every nook and cranny, and they expect, under penally of perjury, the information is correct. I understand "good light". But claiming 30,000 when you've got 10,000 and tall ceilings? Single-family homes certainly can't do that.

#110 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-25 01:08 AM | Reply

"I grew up around real estate. There's a huge difference between a 30,000 sq ft apartment, and a 10,000 sq ft apartment with tall ceilings. If you can't admit the former is purposely leaving out the conversion costs, you're a math moron."

Please tell me the difference -------. If it is zoned to allow for the 3 floors and sqft can be tripled, why would you ignore this in the valuation.

"It is the responsibility of the loan officer to apply discounts to that number to assess what they believe the true value is."

"But they don't physically inspect every nook and cranny"

So, you think they did not assign a single appraiser to check? Or, do you think that appraiser did not know the difference between 30,000 and 10,000 sqft?

"and they expect, under penally of perjury, the information is correct."

What is under perjury? You seem to not understand the difference between you - as a poor ------- doing a standardized home loan vs. a complex real estate transaction with a group like Deutsch Bank. DB does not even do traditional home loans in the US -------.

"I understand "good light". But claiming 30,000 when you've got 10,000 and tall ceilings? Single-family homes certainly can't do that.
#110 | Posted by Danforth"

Again, it is not a traditional home loan -------.

#111 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 01:36 AM | Reply

"It is if charged and proven in a CRIMINAL COURT"

It's also a crime if proven in civil court. Victims have the legal option to pursue either.

#97 | Posted by Danforth

As we know, Trump's already been found guilty of rape in civil court. BTW, has Trump paid E Jean Carroll yet?

#112 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-07-25 03:43 AM | Reply

"#112 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY "

1.) A civil court does not rule on guilt
2.) The jury explicitly rejected rape

I know you have been informed of this already multiple times which means what you are doing now is LYING.

But, I guess when you are a Liberal, that is all you have left at this point.

#113 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 08:58 AM | Reply

2.) The jury explicitly rejected rape

What did the jury explicitly accept?
What's the difference between what the jury accepted and rape?

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-25 09:05 AM | Reply

"What did the jury explicitly accept?
#114 | Posted by snoofy"

NOT RAPE. It was explicitly asked on the jury form and they checked NO. No matter what you say now does not change that fact. So again, repeating it after you already know it is false is called LYING.

#115 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-07-25 09:09 AM | Reply

You're an idiot, Jeff. Everyone knows it.

#116 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-25 12:59 PM | Reply

#113 | Posted by ScottS

That Trump was found guilty of a lesser charge is meaningless.

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is substantially true' in court dismissal

Donald Trump suffered another legal reversal on Monday, losing his counterclaim for defamation against E Jean Carroll, the writer against whom he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and fined $5m, and who continues to pursue a separate defamation case against him.

Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were "substantially true". Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll.

Trump's a self-admitted sexual assaulter. Or have you forgotten the hot mic Access Hollywood incident or the dozens of women who've made claims, including a then 13-year-old?

#117 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-07-25 02:38 PM | Reply

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