Trump didn't "teach" Iran anything about Straight of Hormuz they didn't already know, if you knew the history of the region, e,g,, so-called "Tanker War" happened as part of wider 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war - en.wikipedia.org

And was known long before that:

www.history.com - The Strait of Hormuz: A Timeline of Tensions | The narrow Persian Gulf waterway has been a contested choke point for centuries.

|------- 1507: Portugal Captures the Strait of Hormuz
1951: The British Blockade the Strait to Pressure Iran
1984: The 'Tanker War'
2012: More Sanctions Prompt Iranian Threats
2015-2024: Tanker Seizures and Attacks
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Iran's ambitions for nuclear weapons were born during the Iran-Iraq War, when the Iranian regime found itself increasingly isolated on the international stage. In the 2000s, Iran's contested nuclear weapons program became the target of increasingly harsh economic sanctions from the U.S. and its European allies.

In 2008, Iran threatened to seal off the Strait of Hormuz if sanctions weren't lifted, a move that U.S. authorities said would amount to an act of war. When the European Union announced a total embargo on Iranian oil in 2012, the Iranian regime once again promised to close the Strait of Hormuz, a move that would disrupt the flow of oil exports from Persian Gulf nations.

... In 2008, Iran threatened to seal off the Strait of Hormuz if sanctions weren't lifted ... U.S., France and Britain sent aircraft carriers and warships through the Strait of Hormuz, and Iran didn't make good on its threat.

"There have been standoffs like this since the Iranian Revolution when the regime came into power. Iran's slogan from the very beginning was 'death to America' and 'death to Israel'..."
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The Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz may be a more potent force to face the world than Iran possessing a nuclear bomb.

You've been trying to make this apples-to-chairs comparison for a while - only a little over a month ago it was explained that these are disparate issues, with entirely different goals, purposes, permanence / timeline and geopolitical effects on the region - one is only temporary, borne of desperation (the only 'weapon' they currently have) and not sustainable, as the affected countries are already partially bypassing and building out permanent bypass pipelines and routes.

drudge.com - #26: Now Iran may be starting to realize that control of the Strait is a better way to get global attention than having a nuke. -- see the explanation re why it's nonsensical and the links about what Iran's "good neighbors" are doing to remove any dependence on shipping through Hormuz and Bab al Mandab Strait... at which point Iran will be left without any leverage (they don't have "control") over shipping routes and can't ship oil and goods themselves, hurting only their own economy.

IOW, Hormuz is a double-edged sword.

Besides that, there are verified reports of US Navy escorting some tankers through (similar to Operation Earnest Will in 1987-88), near the coast of Oman - depending on source, anywhere from 3M to 8M barrels are flowing out... though both numbers are far less than ~ 20M pre-closure and the insurance on these is much higher, thus still affecting the price of oil futures.
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Just like Syria had an undeclared nuclear and chemical WMD program, that has been at least twice destroyed by Israel:
apnews.com - UN watchdog excavates suspected Syrian nuclear site

en.wikipedia.org - Operation Orchard / Outside the Box

en.wikipedia.org - Syria and weapons of mass destruction

|------- "We're talking about a few tons of nuclear material that could be put to bad use and Syria has decided to open up this site to the inspectors of the IAEA," Grossi said. "This material will be accounted for and will be put within the international safeguard system." -------|


#47 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2026-08-21 08:13 PM
CutiePie is a Zionist operative.

That's a good one, when you have no real arguments - just declare someone Zionist or Nazi or... Stops discussion and declares a "win" right there. Congrats!


#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-21 08:10 PM
How many ships per day pass through the Strait now? Yer up.

1. If you'd read till the end of my post before jumping to post this, you would've had the answer to that question.

2. What does this question have at all to do with my post re your inane comparison of closing Hormuz being "more potent force" than having nuclear weapon?

If you'd read the post and links I provided, you'd know it simply isn't true. If you can't come to terms with it, that's OK, it will be factually useful to other people here, who can learn from it.

Or you'll just keep changing the goal posts, like some here do repeatedly?

3. If you'd actually read the post, you would see the history of threats of closing Hormuz long precedes current situation... refuting your earlier post that "Trump has taught them" anything.

Are you reading posts and links at all, or just keep repeating the same thing because you [want to] believe it, despite the facts presented? A lot of that is going around here, and even more so recently than before.


I had been wondering how long before this current alias would show up.

What does "show up" mean? I post when I have time and can contribute, not non-stop like some paid Putin's / Russia-financed and CRINK trolls here, who tell you only what you want to hear.

Don't get all hot and bothered just because your "current alias" can't handle being refuted on repeated obvious inanity you posted. I thought you've said before you're here to learn, yet here you are, spinning into ad hominem.

And my "current alias" have had several conversations on the stupid subject of "aliases" with your "current alias" years ago - your "current alias" should try this stupidity with someone else... better yet, tell your "current alias" to discard it.
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