'A whole civilization will die tonight'

Tuesday, April 07, 2026

President Donald Trump issued a disturbing message on social media Tuesday to the people of Iran, warning them that their civilization will likely "never be brought back again" as his Tuesday night deadline for Tehran looms.

Posted by lee_the_agent at 12:32 PM | 192 COMMENTS | permalink

do we honestly have no way of ending a presidency for posting "a whole civilization will die tonight"[image or embed]
" Melissa Gira Grant (@melissagiragrant.com) Apr 7, 2026 at 8:49 AM

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Now that the Secretary of War Crimes has fired anyone at the top of the chain of command who dared to disagree with him what kind of atrocities will the US military commit in our names today? Will any individuals have the human decency to stand up and reject illegal orders? (I really hope so.)

Or will Trump chicken out again?

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2026-04-07 08:39 AM

This is the sort of language that Ming the Merciless would use on a Buck Rogers serial.

Our mentally unwell president has made the transformation from "no new wars" to Destroyer of Worlds.

So, what does this madman have in mind?

Carpet bombing by B-52s?

A tactical nuke here and there?

A few hundred thousand people dead?

Or will his grandiose threats simply fade back into his sundowning mind?

Donald Trump is a dim little boy wandering around with a glass container of gasoline and some matches.

He is already lighting the matches.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 08:40 AM

TV tumor Megyn Kelly: "Dummkopf Trumpf could drop a nuke and I'd still vote Republican."

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 08:40 AM

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 08:43 AM

Like Will Smith said in the movie "I, Robot"...

"I told you so doesn't cover it".

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 08:43 AM

Why are countries allowing their teams to play in FIFA which begins in a few weeks?

How much Bread and Circuses can the system force upon us?

"Here! Take your soma. Now!"

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 09:24 AM

Trump Needs a Rubber Room. He's Certifiable. No 25th amendment, an actual Mental Hospital complete with a straitjacket and Tranqs.

He's foaming at the mouth because this is the first time in his Entire effing life that he can't --------, Bully,or Buy his way out of a Stymied Situation.

Iran won't budge,they don't want make a deal.

They are Going to continue Resisting even if the Lunatic Nukes them.

Trump is hopefully going to Stroke out before he pushes the Buttons on the Football.

Or cooler mind's need to take it away....

This is Caligula ----. . .

#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 09:49 AM

"Iran won't budge,they don't want make a deal."

The bigger problem is, what deal could even exist that Trump will still adhere to, next quarter?

There's nothing for Iran to deal with. There are no rules.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 10:01 AM

The Living World could Die because of one man's Madness,and one "Exceptional" Nation's absolute Fealty to the "World's only Jewish State".

Is it Antisemitic to Notice?

Askin' for, A Friend.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 10:09 AM

There's no way this kind of rhetoric can be justified.

It's not only irresponsible, it's also foolish. I predict years of blowback, including terrorism from those sympathetic to Iran and punitive actions by nations we once considered allies.

#10 | Posted by cbob at 2026-04-07 10:11 AM

#9 Actually, no you're not.

#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 10:16 AM

Or will Trump chicken out again?

#1 | Posted by qcp

Either way he'll give the heads up so insiders who can benefit from stock and oil market bumps if he delays again.

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-04-07 10:37 AM

I was looking at a picture of the bridge recently bombed in Iran.

It is interesting that the bridge was hit in 3 places.

Each end of the bridge and the very middle.

What was left alone was all the concrete columns that support the bridge. I am quite certain that was a precision strike.

It was decided to not totally destroy the bridge but just take it out of commission.

Just throwing that out there.

For some reason I thought it was interesting.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:39 AM

Obviously, no one around Old Yeller ever heard of "the Parthian shot."
With this ---- it'll be oil, not gold, figuratively poured into the yippity-yappity's maw.
And we will all pay the price.
Thank all Republicans when you get a chance.
They worked hard to own it.

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 10:47 AM

No one wants this and no one can stop it

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 10:50 AM

Plenty of people don't want it and plenty of people could stop it.

#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 10:53 AM

qcp,

"Or will Trump chicken out again?"

Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out?

Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further?

This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure.

The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:53 AM

"'A whole civilization will die tonight'"

Everyone jumping to conclusions and assuming it's Iran.

I wager tRump was referring to the North Pole. Which isn't actually a country, or land, but close enough!

#18 | Posted by censored at 2026-04-07 10:56 AM

Republicans, remember: You asked for this. Given the choice between a dozen solid conservatives and one Clinton-supporting con-artist and game-show host, you chose the con-artist. You chose him freely. Nobody made you do it.

#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 10:57 AM

'A whole civilization will die tonight'

Or perhaps two civilizations. The entire notion of what America was, is, and could've been will likely be destroyed tonight. And the Iranians will be proven 100% right when they repeatedly identified America as "the Great Satan"

#20 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2026-04-07 10:58 AM

Censor,

"I wager tRump was referring to the North Pole."

NO! He's not going to blow up Santa Claus!

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:58 AM

Considering Santa Claus is obviously a Democrat, I wouldn't put it past Trump.

#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 11:01 AM

Trump's already lost Trump's War.
Amazing, isn't it?
A 34-times convicted felon who went bankrupt six times and failed at running casinos effed up.
The man's life is a gigantic effup and he's incredibly lucky he had his old man's dough to mess with.
How're things going, now that he's messing with yours?

#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 11:06 AM

This is threatening genocide

Be clear it is a threat of genocide

and not ONE MILITARY PERSON WILL REFUSE THIS ORDER

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:09 AM

Persian civilization predates European. It'll be around. Like the Chinese. We're short-timers, by a long shot.

The civilization that's being destroyed is Western. The rule of rich white men in everything from economics to government to academia has been eroding since the 1970s. Or maybe before with independence movements in the 20th century.

And of course, American civilization started tanking at any point you want to choose, going way back. Most recent manifestation was a 2015 escalator ride. It ain't gonna stop after a staircase accident or defenstration by same.

#25 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 11:12 AM

The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson

James Dobson?

#26 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 11:13 AM

"Or will Trump chicken out again?"
Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out?
Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further?
This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure.
The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson

---- you bill

Piggy is threatening genocide on 90 million people

You are ------- evil

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:15 AM

It was decided to not totally destroy the bridge but just take it out of commission.

How to follow illegal orders and commit war crimes without doing exactly what you were ordered to do ...

#28 | Posted by chuffy at 2026-04-07 11:16 AM

Db,

"James Dobson?"

He's not running the country.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 11:17 AM

Seriously bill, ---- you

This ---- Piggy is spouting is evil

You are evil for supporting it

How many children have to die to satisfy your "christian" blood lust?

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:22 AM

Bill is too ------- stupid to see the irony of using "death to america" as justification for genocide

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:27 AM

Two civilizations, more like; ours and theirs.

Ours from the inside, theirs from without.

"Feel Like I'm Fixing to Die Rag"

www.youtube.com

Well, come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
Got himself in a terrible jam
Way over yonder in old Iran

Put down your books and pick up a gun
We're going to have a whole lot of fun

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:29 AM

---- you bill
Piggy is threatening genocide on 90 million people
You are ------- evil
#27 | Posted by truthhurts

Bill still doesn't understand why anyone would dislike Trump other than those who are politically motivated even after all of the felonies and sex abuse. Bill is a full fledged cult member who would kill himself if Trump asked him to do so.

#33 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-04-07 11:29 AM

How many children have to die to satisfy your "christian" blood lust?

The Bible, Koran, Torah etc has been used to justify killing for eons.

This is just the current iteration of it.

"We have to kill them to save them"

#34 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 11:33 AM

"Donald Trump is a ------- wimp"

-Harry Truman

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 11:36 AM

who would kill himself if Trump asked him to do so.

Pedo47 would charge him for the kool aid first.

Pedo47 is the embodiment of every evil act that man has ever known...sloth, greed, lust, rape, hate, racism, lying, stealing, etc.

He has a multitude of charlatans passing him off as the Christian President. His cult is wearing his mark on their foreheads with those stupid red hats.

#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 11:41 AM

In Rome and Greece prior to Christianity it was acceptable, and legal, for a father to kill his own girl child, as was the brutal rule of government.

www.google.com

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:42 AM

Pithy. I'm giving you Attention Eberly.

Go play now.

#38 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 11:43 AM

It is interesting that the bridge was hit in 3 places.
Each end of the bridge and the very middle.
What was left alone was all the concrete columns that support the bridge. I am quite certain that was a precision strike.
It was decided to not totally destroy the bridge but just take it out of commission.
Just throwing that out there.
For some reason I thought it was interesting.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson

Let me help you out because we all know you're a complete moron.

THE BRIDGE WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT.

You can't just throw a top back on it. It's not how bridges, especially with concrete and metal, work.

#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 11:44 AM

The Antichrist Revealed: 15 Bible Verses Identifying Trump

antichrist45.com

Whether he is THE AC, or not, the fact is he matches every description of the most diabolical character in the story.

Which should possibly just maybe be a signal to supposed believers that he's not a Christian.

Although, in the same story, it's the Fallen Church faction that follows him who enforces the mandate to have a Mark to be able to buy and sell with beheadings.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:50 AM

oh for ffs shove the anti-christ ---- up your ass

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM

Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out?
Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further?
This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure.
The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson

Again, you're an idiot.

Iran holds all the cards.

Trump knows he can't invade because the loss of troop life would be catastrophic. We'd need well over a million troops to control the country. 4x the size of Iraq. Surrounded by mountains. 2x the population. And a military that is trained for asymmetric warfare.

Trump can only lob a few missiles.

IRAN can SHUT DOWN the Middle East anytime it wants. Take out a few desalination plants and no more water. Half these countries get 70-80% of their water from these plants. No more oil for 3-5 years. Take out some oil refineries, no more oil for 2-4 years. Iran can shut down the Strait of Hormuz again, no more oil or fertilizer. 20% of BOTH come through that Strait.

And you MAGA FIRED all the top generals who understood the situation.

So Trump either TACOs out or destroys the world economy and ours.

And idiots like YOU put him in charge.

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM

THE BRIDGE WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT.
You can't just throw a top back on it. It's not how bridges, especially with concrete and metal, work.

#39 | Posted by Sycophant

That sounds awfully sciency, I doubt Bill understands or agrees with that

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:55 AM

#41

You'll have to remove your tongue first...

Or perhaps you could refute the post with arguments to the 15 points made?

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:56 AM

-15 Bible Verses Identifying Trump

Didn't you do this with Mitt Romney? And Newt Gingrich? And GWB? And Paul Ryan? And Marco Rubio? And Dick Cheney? And Karl Rove?

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:00 PM

Although the main point was that it should be obvious to anyone and everyone, especially Christians, that DJT is the furthest thing from a Christian on the planet.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:01 PM

#45

NO. And obviously you didn't read or view it.

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:02 PM

Our grandchildren will have an entire chapter of their US history book dedicated to trump et al., and the chapter is not going to say ANYTHING good about him or the men and women who enabled him.

#48 | Posted by e1g1 at 2026-04-07 12:05 PM

Is it possible that Trump intends to hit critical infrastructure rather than directly kill people with a strike?

that will eventually cause a lot of death if utilities, transportation, medical supplies and food all stop moving.....so it's all catastrophic...one way or the other.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:05 PM

-And obviously you didn't read or view it.

I read the bullet points of each verse. Not all the explanations.

and you should be grateful because almost nobody else will even read as much as I did.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:08 PM

Or perhaps you could refute the post with arguments to the 15 points made?

#44 | Posted by Corky

I don't have to. The whole anti-christ thing is baby stuff, child's fantasy

You're a baby for believing in it.

It's religious whackjobs like you and netanyahu and iran's ayatollahs that brought us here

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 12:10 PM

#51

Opinions are easy, especially when they avoid all that nasty refuting an argument stuff.

But hey, not all atheists make, or even understand, that the reason they agree with the philosophic teachings of JC more than some so-called Christians do is that they are Cultural Christians; their culture having been 'weathered' by it's effects for 2000 years.

Personally, I'm not a Gnostic, so I don't KNOW THE TRUTH! like some gnostic atheists KNOW theirs is the only true belief.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:19 PM

like some gnostic atheists KNOW theirs is the only true belief.

Get over yourself. The same could be said for "some" in any religion.

#53 | Posted by horstngraben at 2026-04-07 12:26 PM

Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind.

Hello, Republicans? Backbone?

#54 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2026-04-07 12:30 PM

#53

Of course it could... what's your point? That TH is like a gnostic 'Christian' who knows what they know because they know it, and anyone who disagrees is a, 'baby' and a 'whackjob'?

That's pretty much what I said, too. There are theists and atheists willing to demean people who dare to disagree with them.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:34 PM

- Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind.

Good point... even MTG is calling him out bigtime:

"Our President Is Not a Christian." I Said It. I Meant It."
MTG: Political Insider

www.youtube.com

Scary part may be that BJ is to the Right of all those people!

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:37 PM

"Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind."

Huh Maybe I've been wrong.

#57 | Posted by danni at 2026-04-07 12:39 PM

Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind.
#54 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar

Fake News.
They're only saying that because of the
R
after his name.
Signed,
Eberly

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 12:40 PM

Now MTG is calling for the 25th Amendment solution after seeing Trump's post as in the title of this thread:

www.youtube.com

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:41 PM

Is it possible that Trump intends to hit critical infrastructure rather than directly kill people with a strike?

#49 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Sure.

And it's possible that he will fire bomb Tehran.

Of just exaggerate some little thing into some YUGE thing.

He's insane.

He's getting us in touch with the true meaning of that word.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 12:46 PM

I think that we're at that part of "The Birds" where the army of seagulls crashes into Bodega Bay and ignites the gas station.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 12:49 PM

Good thing Trump Stole $10 billion taxpayer dollars for his "bored of peace" grift.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 12:52 PM

Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further?

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson

Is that Trump apologist speak for... 'Or is he threatening war crimes out of desperation'?

#63 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2026-04-07 12:52 PM

ha... et tu FOX News?:

"Ex-Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene joins left-wing calls for the 25th amendment as Iran deadline nears
President Donald Trump has threatened that 'a whole civilization will die tonight'

Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene called for President Donald Trump to be removed from office via the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

"25TH AMENDMENT!!! Not a single bomb has dropped on America. We cannot kill an entire civilization. This is evil and madness," Greene wrote on X."

www.foxnews.com

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:53 PM

The only person escalating anything is Trump.

Well. Netanyahu really.

Trump is his bitch.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 12:54 PM

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag:

oh for ffs shove the anti-christ ---- up your ass

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Corky puttin' off Jim Jones vibes today.

#66 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-04-07 01:06 PM

Demented pedophile psychopath. That's who you voted for, bub.

#67 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-04-07 01:54 PM

Trump is now doubling down on that extermination of Iranian civilization thing.

His deadline for extinction is 8:OO PM tonight.

Whatever act he actually follows through with at this point, even backing entirely away, underscores his insanity.

#68 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 02:10 PM

@pstomlinson

There is a real chance we're about 9 hrs out from a 79 yr old dementia patient launching nuclear weapons for the 1st time in 80 yrs, killing millions and collapsing the global economy, all to distract from the fact he rapes children.

But have fun at you little jobs or whatever.

#69 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 02:17 PM

A whole civilization will die tonight?

The climate has always changed.

And civilizations have always come and gone, as long as people have been around.

Signed,
Republicans

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 02:19 PM

America haters got to hate America.

#71 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-04-07 02:21 PM

America haters got to hate America.
#71 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ | FLAG: America hater.

You're doing a heck of a job of it!

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 02:23 PM

I know that when I plan on committing genocide, I post something stating as much.

#73 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-04-07 02:28 PM

It's starting to get some Dead Zone vibes.

#74 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 02:29 PM

"Is it possible that Trump intends to hit critical infrastructure rather than directly kill people with a strike?"

It sounds like that's what he means. Unless nukes start flying tonight.

But that is certainly not what he said.

Very little he says is coherent nowadays.

#75 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-04-07 02:31 PM

I know that when I plan on committing genocide, I post something stating as much.
#73 | Posted by madbomber

It's worked for Irgun and IDF. They've told the people of Southern Lebanon get out or they're getting ethnically cleansed.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 02:36 PM

Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations, he may extend his deadline to escalate against infrastructure targets in Iran. Would be the fourth time he has done so.

#TacoTuesday

#77 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 02:38 PM

Greene wrote on X."

Her clown antics enabled him.

She can -----.

#78 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 02:38 PM

Iran is staging women and children around bridges and power plants.

#79 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-04-07 02:39 PM

Trump told Fox News that based on progress in negotiations

According to Iran they have cut off all negotiations after his insulting and threatening post on Sunday.

So who to believe?

One is a murdering corrupt fascist regime that lies with the ease of someone who has never been burdened by the truth.

The other is Iran.

#80 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 02:40 PM

OH BOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You dishonest cowards never fail to entertain those of us who are not sanity challenged.

you will once again being wrong with your rhetoric on display here.

It's like you're never heard the man talk before but then you don't have to....not

when you have pseudo "journalists" at places like Rawstory getting you all fired up

about nukes and ---.

--what he's apparently threatened to do has been done repeatedly by other presidents.

--"you experts" ever hear of something called "rolling thunder ?" ( LBJ and North Viet Nam)

--Clinton destroyed Serbian energy infrastructure

--both bushes took out iraqui energy grid.

THOSE ARE NOT WAR CRIMES.

#81 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-07 02:42 PM

Death by TACO sounds good to me....

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 02:43 PM

Iran is staging women and children around bridges and power plants.

They're hoping to get Trump's attention, maybe he'll stop the war when he see how many people there are for him to rape in Iran.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 02:44 PM

BUT I understand your anguish. You're despondent because the downed pilot

wasn't captured by Iran and paraded around ..ala november 4 1979.

or even better for your party of "no kings"....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ugly

broads and insane idiot children. ....if his dead body had been paraded around for the camera.

---I'll let you get back to your gleeful exaggerations and hyperbolic soiree / shindig.

#84 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-07 02:52 PM

Authoritarians like Vlad, Xi, Kim, Netanyahu... they got all giddy about how they could manipulate and or destroy the US and or Nato when they saw DJT get elected yet again... it was like winning the Lotto.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 03:01 PM

It's five hours away from 8:00 PM, EST, and the White House won'tr rule out using nuclear weapons against Iran.

I know that maniac Trump doesn't care about a few score thousand burned and dead women and kids.

But does he understand what it will do to the price of gas?

#86 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 03:07 PM

If he's referring to our founding ideals then I suppose it's possible.

#87 | Posted by SirRudolf at 2026-04-07 03:12 PM

Trump will probably bomb the hell out of them but that's not going to ulitimately get the job, per all the experts.

He's also literally all over the map on where the war is and what he wants. Iran is probably like WTF is it with this guy.

But I will say, it give me pause that an 80 year old man with his disposition is making decisions.........

#88 | Posted by brass30 at 2026-04-07 03:22 PM

Trump is a loser.

He got played by Netanyahu.

The world sees it.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 03:25 PM

---I'll let you get back to your gleeful exaggerations and hyperbolic soiree / shindig.

#84 | Posted by shrimptacodan

You love those when your cult leader does it.

Like the quote in the title of this thread.

Even alex jones is calling for trump's removal. Let that sink in. You're more insane than alex jones. Congrats.

#90 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-07 03:42 PM

Flag:

Iran is staging women and children around bridges and power plants.

#79 | Posted by visitor_

Well then they should be safe because it's illegal to attack civilian infrastructure, right?

#91 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-07 03:43 PM

Iran is staging women and children around bridges and power plants.

#79 | Posted by visitor_

America is posting its soldiers in public hotels

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 03:45 PM

Pakistan PM seeks two-week extension to Trump's deadline on Iran
www.reuters.com

... Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Wednesday requested that U.S. President Donald Trump make a two-week extension to a deadline he imposed on Iran to end its blockade of Gulf oil.

"To allow diplomacy to run its course, I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks. Pakistan, in all sincerity, requests the Iranian brothers to open Strait of Hormuz for a corresponding period of two weeks as a goodwill gesture," Sharif said in a post on X. ...

#93 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-07 03:56 PM

According to the chronicler Herodotus, around 550 BC the Lydian king Croesus (as in " as rich as") consulted the Oracle at Delphi as to whether he should invade the Persian Empire. That visionary told Croesus if he attacked Persia "a great empire" would be destroyed. Croesus, unbelievably wealthy and full of himself, took that as a go-ahead signal, attacked Persia, and in the end became the last king of Lydia.

#94 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 03:58 PM

Um, am I on the bad guy side. I get it- Iran is an ass, but do we need to be a bigger one? Violence solves nothing.

#95 | Posted by Brennnn at 2026-04-07 04:04 PM

in all sincerity, requests the Iranian brothers to open Strait of Hormuz for a corresponding period of two weeks

LOL. Why would they do that?

#96 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-07 04:06 PM

Which Iranian brothers is he referring to?

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 04:09 PM

This is pretty topsy-turvy world funny... Mother Tucker going off about Trump's attacking religion, any religion, for a couple of mins... then a cut to the news Host, who may be Mid Eastern, I dunno... who says:

'So... defending Islam? Didn't think I'd see it in my lifetime, but...'

www.youtube.com

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 04:14 PM

This is also Strange Bedfellows... Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project and James Carville together.

If nothing else, Carville's short rant message to Trump at 3:30 in:

www.youtube.com

#99 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 04:25 PM

Well, one thing is certain. Trump and our military have our compete attention tonight. If Trump with the obedience of the US military actually does even one tenth of what he is threatening to do, it will be a day of infamy unlike any other in US history. The genocide of the American Indians and the American institution of slavery will have a new crime of gigantic proportions against humanity to mourn and forever regret.

How can the military allow this? How can the 25th amendment not be applied under these conditions?

If this really happens then God Damn America.

#100 | Posted by moder8 at 2026-04-07 05:06 PM

James Dobson's not running the country.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson

No, but his ilk and other Christian theocrats and their followers are largely responsible for Trump's election.

#101 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 05:09 PM

No, but his ilk and other Christian theocrats and their followers are largely responsible for Trump's election.

#101 | Posted by Dbt2

In a narrow election many parties are responsible for this nightmare.

Israel. Russia. Musk. Zuckerberg. Rogan.

But really it was 30 years of fox news rotting the brains of the country that lead to the rise of maga.

#102 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-07 05:54 PM

My prediction - trump will chicken out. He'll attack one or two spots to safe face. Claim victory. And say iran came crawling back and begging to negotiate, and drag this out longer.

#103 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-07 05:56 PM

Pope Leo XIV calls Trump's Iran threat 'truly unacceptable'

www.youtube.com

#104 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 06:04 PM

There are hints at an agreement coming out of Pakistan.

Iran's envoy to Pakistan says step forward' after sensitive stage'
Reza Amiri Moghadam has said in a post on X that "as of now" there has been "a step forward from critical, sensitive stage".

"In the next stage, respect and comity should be replaced by rhetorics and redundancy. Stay more tuned," the Iranian ambassador to Pakistan added.

Moghadam included the comments in a post that also quoted his earlier post saying that Pakistan had been making "positive and productive endeavours" as a mediator.

#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:07 PM

This sort of rhetoric coming out of Iran is dangerous to the world.

I see that, and so do many others.

How do you deal with homicidal religious fanatics who deliberately kill their own people?

Japan was changed only after the emperor was stripped of real power.

Iran will not be normal until it is no longer run by religious lunatics.

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 06:08 PM

Bill just shut the ---- up

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:12 PM

Trump raped children and started a war with Iran to distract from the fact Trump raped children.

Idiots like BullJohnson don't mind that Trump raped children because he feeds them hate to nourish their dead souls.

#108 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:14 PM

#106

Our country is being run a Fascist Gang Boss and his Crime Family... who gave fringe religious fanatics their own Office in the WH.

;;
More on the Pakistani deal... which originated from one of their Army Field Generals, I hear:

"Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Tuesday called on President Trump and the Iranian regime to agree to a two-week ceasefire to give time for peace talks.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told Axios: "The President has been made aware of the proposal, and a response will come."

www.axios.com

Trump will find a way to call it a Win no matter what happens.... and his Cult will applaud. While bowing and scraping.

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 06:16 PM

Bill just shut the ---- up

As long as he gets the negative attention he desires, he'll keep posting inflammatory rhetoric.

It helps fill their empty lives.

Same as BullBringer and OneTrumper.

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:17 PM

Now Iran is urging (probably forcing) people to form chains around power plants.

There are no limits to the number of people they are willing to martyr.

#111 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 06:17 PM

There are hints at an agreement coming out of Pakistan

Expect Trump to tank it.

#112 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:19 PM

Our country is being run a Fascist Gang Boss and his Crime Family...

I've heard this is what the 2nd amendment is supposed to protect America from.

#113 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:24 PM

#111 Just pretend they're being paid by George Soros, BJ boi.

Make you feel better, amirite?

#114 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 06:25 PM

Bill America is putting our soldiers in gulf hotels. How is that different?

#115 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:27 PM

111.

Bill: Name three US foreign policy failures in your/our lifetime.

I'd say this is one.

US actions in Central America in midcentury and beyond are another. (Both parties)

And of course the ridiculous debacle in Iraq/Afghanistan. (Obama didn't change much of Bush's foreign policy in a practical sense, which the left excoriated him for.)

Your turn.

#116 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 06:32 PM

Flagging you funny for trying to have an actual discussion with BullJohnson.

Best of luck.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:36 PM

Sen. Bernie Sanders
@SenSanders

It is very easy to become accustomed to Trump's ravings, and laugh them off. That's a dangerous thing to do.

When Trump states: "A whole civilization will die tonight," he is threatening to commit genocide.

We can't allow that to happen. Congress must end this war NOW.

#118 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:40 PM

Iran will not be normal until it is no longer run by religious lunatics.
#106 | Posted by BillJohnson

Now Iran is urging (probably forcing) people to form chains around power plants.
There are no limits to the number of people they are willing to martyr.
#111 | Posted by BillJohnson

How does blowing up the people forming chains around the power plants loosen the grip of the religious lunatics?

#119 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 06:41 PM

~~Iran~~ America will not be normal until it is no longer run by religious lunatics.
#106 | Posted by BillJohnson

FTFY-- no charge.

#120 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 06:44 PM

Trump tacoed for 2 weeks

#121 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:53 PM

"There are no limits to the number of people they are willing to martyr."

And what's your limit?

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 06:53 PM

"Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan, and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.

"This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE!

"The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives, and are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran, and PEACE in the Middle East. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated.

"On behalf of the United States of America, as President, and also representing the Countries of the Middle East, it is an Honor to have this Longterm problem close to resolution."

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:54 PM

Db,

How do you explain the fact no countries other than the usual two are coming to Iran's aid?

#124 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 06:55 PM

No word from Iran
Good news if true, will Iran trust Piggy?

#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:55 PM

Db,
How do you explain the fact no countries other than the usual two are coming to Iran's aid?
#124 | Posted by BillJohnso

How many countries have come begging to Iran for passage of the SoH?

#126 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:58 PM

How many countries have come to US and Israel's aid?

ZERO
POINT
ZERO

#127 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:58 PM

" ... we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives ... "
- Donald Trump

"Mission Accomplished!"
- George BushJr

#128 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 06:59 PM

Hmmm I wonder what this ---- from Piggy means with regards to Israel and Lebanon? and Israel and Iran?

Is this a pressure play to force Iran's hand?

#129 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 06:59 PM

Starting 12 hours ago the IDF began destroying most of the major bridges and railroads in Western Iran, along with destroying the majority of their aluminum industry, some chemical plants, etc. The US has struck multiple sites on Kharg, and Kish. Iran wounds 15 US soldiers at a Kuwaiti air base, the rest of their drones and missiles fired over the weekend being ineffective.

#130 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 07:00 PM

Some early estimates have it at > 2000 dead Iranian civilians.

#131 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 07:00 PM

If you read Piggy's statement

"Based on conversations with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, of Pakistan,...'

No reference to Iran

"...and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz"

Conditional unilateral ceasefire

That puts pressure on Iran that makes it sound like Iran wants to continue the war

"...are very far along with a definitive Agreement concerning Longterm PEACE with Iran,..."

Meaningless drivel

"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate..."

Iran's 10 point peace plan www.aljazeera.com

The Iranian proposal consisted of 10 clauses, including an end to conflicts in the region, a protocol for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz, the lifting of sanctions and reconstruction, IRNA reported.

Needs Israel's concurrence and withdrawal from Lebanon

"Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran..."

This is a lie and highly reminiscent of lies Piggy has told over the past month

#132 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:05 PM

The way I read this is this is Piggy's unilateral attempt to Taco. I can even admit it is as smart a play as he has at this time.

This biggest hurdle is OBVIOUSLY Iran will not trust Piggy and it is obvious that a ceasefire benefits Iran and Israel

#133 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:07 PM

How do you explain the fact no countries other than the usual two are coming to Iran's aid?

A lot of countries have supported Iran by speaking out against our actions in Iran and denying us the use of their military bases to attack Iran.

Additionally, thanks to Trump's blunder by attacking Iran, Russian oil is selling again and their economy is roaring back to life.

Putin couldn't be happier.

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 07:08 PM

#130 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Ineffective, LOL. The Gulf States and Israel are censoring ALL damage done to them. Saudi's primary petrochemical plant was on fire.

So, ummm not nearly as one sided as you pretend.

#135 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:08 PM

"This will be a double sided CEASEFIRE!"

Absolutely no mention of Israel

I don't see how Iran can accept this

#136 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:09 PM

This sort of rhetoric coming out of Iran is dangerous to the world.

I see that, and so do many others.

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yeah you and the morons see dangerous rhetoric coming out of the country that got invaded, and not from the pedophile psychopath who invaded them.

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-07 07:15 PM

reports are iran accepted

#138 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:16 PM

Iran's Supreme National Security Council confirms ceasefire deal
In a statement published by Mehr News Agency, Iran's Supreme National Security Council has confirmed the reported two weeks ceasefire deal negotiated by Pakistan.

The statement said that the ceasefire agreement was reached with the approval of Iran's new Supreme Leader Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei.

The statement said deal is a "victory for Iran", adding that negotiations for a permanent deal will be held in Islamabad.

#139 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:17 PM

This is most definitely one time I'm glad he TACO'd.

BTW, the Persian civilization is 7000 years old.

#140 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-04-07 07:17 PM

Piggy will forever be known as the lunatic that brought the world to near annihilation.

Keep that in mind when Iran makes out incredibly well if this ceasefire becomes a peace deal.

At best Piggy MIGHT get the nuclear deal that Iran was ready to give them on Feb 26.

Iran will likely get tolls on the SoH and sanctions relief

Of course, poor Lebanon will pay dearly

Also keep this moment in memory when Europe is flooded with refugees

#141 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:19 PM

T A C O!

#142 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-04-07 07:20 PM

"The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives"

OMFG.

We've got Baghdad Bob for President.

#143 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-04-07 07:20 PM

I guess with the world not ending I should do my taxes.

#144 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:20 PM

To be absolutely clear

Iran wins this.

They got sanctions relief

They proved they have a nuclear option with the SoH

They will easily rebuild their missile program

Piggy got, ummm, snuff films and a nuclear deal he would have had 6 weeks ago

#145 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:22 PM

Iran's FM Araghchi says agrees to cease defensive operations if conditions met
Iran's foreign minister has shared a statement on behalf of Iran's Supreme National Security Council declaring that "if attacks against Iran are halted, our Powerful Armed Forces will cease their defensive operations."

"For a period of two weeks, safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz will be possible via coordination with Iran's armed forces and with due consideration to technical limitations," Araghchi added.

#146 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:26 PM

Iran will likely get tolls on the SoH and sanctions relief

#141 | Posted by truthhurts

REMEMBER: Trump tore up a perfectly working deal in 2018. All of this is all on him.

Now he's killed those powerful and moderate enough to negotiate Iran into the world community, and turned a large swath of everyday Iranians, who like America, into skeptics at a minimum to outright haters.

#147 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-04-07 07:28 PM

Here is the 10-point plan, according to an Iranian state broadcaster:

1.Complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen

2.Complete and permanent cessation of the war on Iran with no time limit

3.Ending all conflicts in the region in their entirety

4.Reopening the Strait of Hormuz

5.Establishing a protocol and conditions to ensure freedom and security of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz

6.Full payment of compensation for reconstruction costs to Iran

7.Full commitment to lifting sanctions on Iran

8.Release of Iranian funds and frozen assets held by the United States

9.Iran fully commits to not seeking possession of any nuclear weapons

10.Immediate ceasefire takes effect on all fronts immediately upon approval of the above conditions

#148 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:29 PM

REMEMBER: Trump tore up a perfectly working deal in 2018. All of this is all on him.
Now he's killed those powerful and moderate enough to negotiate Iran into the world community, and turned a large swath of everyday Iranians, who like America, into skeptics at a minimum to outright haters.

#147 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY a

Piggy will crow about achieving peace in our times though

#149 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:29 PM

Piggy got, ummm, snuff films and a nuclear deal he would have had 6 weeks ago

#145 | Posted by truthhurts

The same, perfectly good nuclear deal we had 8 years ago.

The only thing wrong with it in his eyes was Obama's signature

#150 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-04-07 07:32 PM

The United States and Iran reached an 11th-hour cease-fire deal on Tuesday evening, hours after President Trump threatened to start wiping out Iran's "whole civilization" if it did not allow commercial shipping to pass safely through the Strait of Hormuz.

#151 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 07:34 PM

#151 | Posted by sitzkrieg a

Correct, IOW a victory for Iran

Unless you view achieving the status quo before the war is a victory.

#152 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:39 PM

Well, I suppose the TACO is the best outcome we can hope for at this point in time.

Much to the disappointment of the rabid and bloodthirsty MAGA cult, I'm sure.

I was about 75 percent sure he would TACO. But I was disturbed, none the less, by the 25 percent chance our country was going to commit (another) genocide. That Trump threatened nukes was particularly revolting. Not only because it emulates Putin, but it's also embarrassing. I guess Trump has never had actual leverage ever in his life, or he wouldn't be making dumb threats like that. What an idiot!

#153 | Posted by horstngraben at 2026-04-07 07:43 PM

TACO

Iran has NOT agreed to open the Strait indefinitely. Just for the ceasefire.

Iran is also claiming the US agreed to its 10 point plan INCLUDING lifting sanctions and allowing enrichment.

If this is the final agreement, we've lost.

#154 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 07:50 PM

Taco Tuesday.

If this is the final agreement, we've lost.

We lost the moment the war started.

#155 | Posted by qcp at 2026-04-07 08:02 PM

Db,
How do you explain the fact no countries other than the usual two are coming to Iran's aid?
#124 | Posted by BillJohnson

You didn't answer. Went with your best shot and blew it.

#156 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 08:23 PM

The Gulf States and Israel are censoring

#135 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 07:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

So is Iran. So is Russia. It is not effective in 2026. All war can be followed, easily, in real time, on multiple live maps that aggregate everything going on.

#157 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:09 PM

If this is the final agreement, we've lost.

#154 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 07:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's not. It's a general framework for negotiations per Iran.

So Trump can.. make an Iran Deal...

#158 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:11 PM

If this is the final agreement, we've lost.
#154 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 07:50 PM | Reply | Flag:
It's not. It's a general framework for negotiations per Iran.
So Trump can.. make an Iran Deal...

#158 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Iran is saying Trump agreed to it...which he probably did and didn't at the same time because its Trump.

Here's the issue: How can the US say no? We lost. Iran won. We have ZERO ------- NEGOTIATING POWER right now.

#159 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 09:22 PM

I looked at the official statement from Iran. It does not say Trump agreed to the 10 points. It says the 10 points are a basis for negotiation.

#160 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:25 PM

We have ZERO ------- NEGOTIATING POWER right now.

#159 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 09:22 PM | Reply | Flag

Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada!

Minus those thousands of airstrikes and total ability to end their civilization without even bothering to use nukes.

#161 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:27 PM

#161 sitzkrieg naively states, "...and total ability to end their civilization without even bothering to use nukes."

My, how positive you are. Remember, the US won every single battle during our decade+ in Vietnam... including during Tet.

Who's leading Vietnam these days?

Meanwhile, 100% oops:

He honestly believes Iran is playing by his rules, but his rules are the Roy Cohn con, the Roger Stone syphilitic shuffle, the Steve Bannon bellow, the third-rate Atlantic

City casino grifter tout.

He's wrong, and every day he's left to his own devices, America sinks deeper into danger.

Tehran is playing the long game, a centuries-old Persian chess match, while Donald is busy trying to eat the decorative marble pieces. They have the cards. They have the patience. They have a timeline that extends beyond the next polling cycle, which is a concept Trump's chicken-fried synapses simply cannot process.

They don't care if he reduces the country to rubble; it means the theocrats stay in power, forever. They want Trump to attack their bridges and power stations. They want Trump to destroy the cosmopolitan modernity they loathe. They want Trump to hit more schools and to start on hospitals and power plants.

No one could launder the horrific IGRC, Basij, and mullah's images more than Trump on a war crimes spree.

source

#162 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 09:35 PM

We have ZERO ------- NEGOTIATING POWER right now.
#159 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 09:22 PM | Reply | Flag
Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada!
Minus those thousands of airstrikes and total ability to end their civilization without even bothering to use nukes.
#161 | Posted by sitzkrieg

They know DAMN WELL we can't do that or they'd end oil in the Middle East.

They can take out the desalination plants that places like Saudi Arabia get 80% of their water from. No water, no workers, no oil. 3-5 years to rebuild minimum.

They can take out the refineries, pipelines, storage facilities, etc. Again, no oil. 3-5 years again to rebuild minimum.

They can keep the straight closed like they have.

They can keep hitting Tel Aviv at will and their missiles are getting through now.

If they did these things or just a combination of a few: Oil prices would shoot up to $200 a barrel and the US would hit a major depression.

Bombing bridges and power plants wouldn't stop ANY of this.

So no. Now they KNOW Trump understands this, we have ZERO NEGOTIATION POWER.

...of course, the Dementia Don may forget by morning...

#163 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 09:39 PM

My, how positive you are.

#162 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 09:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fool. Ask a Republican why we lost Vietnam.

Republicans want war policy that fights every war like it's against Imperial Japan. That's the last time we overwhelmingly won. That's what will happen to Iran if Trump goes all in.

#164 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:41 PM

and no, it doesn't take nukes. We have the capability to reduce their infrastructure to nothing and trigger the biggest humanitarian and refugee crisis in written history. We can do to Iran what Russia wishes it could do to Ukraine. The only thing that checks it is political restraint.

#165 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:45 PM

"That's the last time we overwhelmingly won."

That war isn't viewed as a win because of anything that happened in the war, though certainly our losses were minimal compared to other combatants.

Would War Two is a win because we built Pax Americana from the rubble and ushered in an era of broad global prosperity that lasted for eighty years.

Trump doesn't know how to do that.

#166 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 09:46 PM

and this is the first time in any of our lives that we have a president that might not have that restraint.

not good.

#167 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:46 PM

#164 sitzkrieg continues his naive comments, while ignoring this fact:

They don't care if he reduces the country to rubble; it means the theocrats stay in power, forever. They want Trump to attack their bridges and power stations. They want Trump to destroy the cosmopolitan modernity they loathe. They want Trump to hit more schools and to start on hospitals and power plants.

#168 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 09:48 PM

That war isn't viewed as a win because of anything that happened in the war,

#166 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 09:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

If only we could rewind and let you loose in the Enola Gay exhibit debates.

#169 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:48 PM

"a president that might not have that restraint."

A President.
A Secretary of Def^H^H^H War.
A Secretary of State.
A Speaker of The House.

It's just what the NRA ordered.

#170 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 09:49 PM

#165 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And as I pointed out in #163, the consequences for us would be so terrible that even Trump had to pull back. They know we can't go through with it without destroying our own economy and the world's economy.

So the threat of End their Civilization is a very very empty threat.

That's why we have NO NEGOTIATING POWER.

#171 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 09:49 PM

#168 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 09:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah, none of them have relatives in those. They are completely inhuman animals that want to be bombed by Trump so they can be more powerful.

gtfo lol.

#172 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-04-07 09:49 PM

Enola Gay exhibit debates.
#169 | Posted by sitzkrieg

I remember that one.

Republicans snowflaked themselves to bits over the idea that there could even be anything to debate.

#173 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 09:51 PM

#172 sitzkrieg actually displays a sense of reality ... "They are completely inhuman animals that want to be bombed by Trump so they can be more powerful."

Yep.

Stone Ages, is the preferred identifier.

Meanwhile, they control a country of 90,000,000+ human beings.

But, they're led by "completely inhuman animals"

Indeed.

#174 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 09:55 PM

"Republicans want war policy that fights every war like it's against Imperial Japan."

Today's Republicans want soldiers like the Reich trained the Japanese.

#175 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 10:00 PM

#172 sitzkrieg actually claims, without an emoji of sarcasm, that... "Yeah, none of them have relatives in those."

sitzkrieg has an amazing sense of historical ignorance... even short-term ...

#176 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 10:02 PM

if (Trump.didAnything()) {
return "bad";
}

#177 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-04-08 12:22 AM

Keep the finger on the trigger. You can't trust the Islamic fanatics. They have no problem lying to the infidels, which is anybody who doesn't stick their ass in the air 5 times a day.

#178 | Posted by rf4b at 2026-04-08 01:00 AM

which is anybody who doesn't stick their ass in the air 5 times a day.

Gad... a bigger Muslim hater than Boaz?

Who'da thunk?

#179 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-08 01:20 AM

if (Trump.didAnything()) {
return "bad";
}

#177 | Posted by visitor_

You're Pedo President just started a war, blew $100 billion on it, and lost said war all in less than 6 weeks.

You should keep your Pedo mouth shut.

#180 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-08 01:40 AM

WOW.........THIS REALLY IS HELL....you know since the ...heh heh.....

'A whole civilization will die tonight'

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#181 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-08 08:48 AM

he's crazy for starting it

he's crazy for ending it

two small sentences that explains it all...

"you people" really are out of your mother ------- minds.....

#182 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-08 08:50 AM

which is anybody who doesn't stick their ass in the air 5 times a day.

Gad... a bigger Muslim hater than Boaz?

Who'da thunk?

#179 | Posted by REDIAL

just a little clue for you.....even though you're lying trash about boaz.

"a bigger Muslim hater than Boaz?"

---you "aint" seen nothin yet...

#183 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-08 09:09 AM

before I remove the stench ....for the day.

with the right terms this ceasefire will mean one less entry

on the enemies of America list....

-china
-russia
-N Korea
-the democrat party

#184 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-04-08 09:41 AM

Keep the finger on the trigger. You can't trust the Islamic fanatics. They have no problem lying...
#178 | Posted by rf4b

I didn't realize that Trump is an islamic fanatic.

#185 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-04-08 11:41 AM

just a little clue for you.....even though you're lying trash about boaz.
"a bigger Muslim hater than Boaz?"
---you "aint" seen nothin yet...

#183 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Oooh, shrimp has added Boaz to his pantheon. What a credibility boost!

#186 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-08 11:58 AM

-china
-russia
-N Korea
-the democrat party

#184 | Posted by shrimptacodan

If russia is our enemy then why are you fine with having a russian puppet in the white house?

#187 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-04-08 12:45 PM

Keep the finger on the trigger. You can't trust the Islamic fanatics. They have no problem lying...
#178 | Posted by rf4b

I didn't realize that Trump is an islamic fanatic.

#185 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

When he praised Allah it all suddenly made sense.

#188 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-04-08 12:46 PM

even though you're lying trash about boaz.

I don't have a problem with Boaz hating Muslims. Every time he was sent to occupy one of their counties, Muslims were shooting at him.

That would get on your nerves after a while. This RF4B alias seems more like a REMF type.

#189 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-04-08 01:07 PM

A worthless, unintelligible loser still.

#190 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-04-08 09:04 PM

International Humanitarian Law Databases
ihl-databases.icrc.org

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Article 51 - Protection of the civilian population
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2. The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
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#191 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-08 11:42 PM

@#191 ... Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited. ...

So, Pres Trump's threat to obliterate the people of Iran is Not A Good Thing?

#192 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-04-08 11:46 PM

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