'A whole civilization will die tonight'
President Donald Trump issued a disturbing message on social media Tuesday to the people of Iran, warning them that their civilization will likely "never be brought back again" as his Tuesday night deadline for Tehran looms.
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do we honestly have no way of ending a presidency for posting "a whole civilization will die tonight"[image or embed]" Melissa Gira Grant (@melissagiragrant.com) Apr 7, 2026 at 8:49 AM
do we honestly have no way of ending a presidency for posting "a whole civilization will die tonight"[image or embed]
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Now that the Secretary of War Crimes has fired anyone at the top of the chain of command who dared to disagree with him what kind of atrocities will the US military commit in our names today? Will any individuals have the human decency to stand up and reject illegal orders? (I really hope so.)
Or will Trump chicken out again?
#1 | Posted by qcp at 2026-04-07 08:39 AM | Reply
This is the sort of language that Ming the Merciless would use on a Buck Rogers serial.
Our mentally unwell president has made the transformation from "no new wars" to Destroyer of Worlds.
So, what does this madman have in mind?
Carpet bombing by B-52s?
A tactical nuke here and there?
A few hundred thousand people dead?
Or will his grandiose threats simply fade back into his sundowning mind?
Donald Trump is a dim little boy wandering around with a glass container of gasoline and some matches.
He is already lighting the matches.
#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
TV tumor Megyn Kelly: "Dummkopf Trumpf could drop a nuke and I'd still vote Republican."
#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 08:40 AM | Reply
#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 08:43 AM | Reply
Like Will Smith said in the movie "I, Robot"...
"I told you so doesn't cover it".
#5 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 08:43 AM | Reply
Why are countries allowing their teams to play in FIFA which begins in a few weeks?
How much Bread and Circuses can the system force upon us?
"Here! Take your soma. Now!"
#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-04-07 09:24 AM | Reply
Trump Needs a Rubber Room. He's Certifiable. No 25th amendment, an actual Mental Hospital complete with a straitjacket and Tranqs.
He's foaming at the mouth because this is the first time in his Entire effing life that he can't --------, Bully,or Buy his way out of a Stymied Situation.
Iran won't budge,they don't want make a deal.
They are Going to continue Resisting even if the Lunatic Nukes them.
Trump is hopefully going to Stroke out before he pushes the Buttons on the Football.
Or cooler mind's need to take it away....
This is Caligula ----. . .
#7 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 09:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"Iran won't budge,they don't want make a deal."
The bigger problem is, what deal could even exist that Trump will still adhere to, next quarter?
There's nothing for Iran to deal with. There are no rules.
#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 10:01 AM | Reply
The Living World could Die because of one man's Madness,and one "Exceptional" Nation's absolute Fealty to the "World's only Jewish State".
Is it Antisemitic to Notice?
Askin' for, A Friend.
#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 10:09 AM | Reply
There's no way this kind of rhetoric can be justified.
It's not only irresponsible, it's also foolish. I predict years of blowback, including terrorism from those sympathetic to Iran and punitive actions by nations we once considered allies.
#10 | Posted by cbob at 2026-04-07 10:11 AM | Reply
#9 Actually, no you're not.
#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-04-07 10:16 AM | Reply
#1 | Posted by qcp
Either way he'll give the heads up so insiders who can benefit from stock and oil market bumps if he delays again.
#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-04-07 10:37 AM | Reply
I was looking at a picture of the bridge recently bombed in Iran.
It is interesting that the bridge was hit in 3 places.
Each end of the bridge and the very middle.
What was left alone was all the concrete columns that support the bridge. I am quite certain that was a precision strike.
It was decided to not totally destroy the bridge but just take it out of commission.
Just throwing that out there.
For some reason I thought it was interesting.
#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:39 AM | Reply
Obviously, no one around Old Yeller ever heard of "the Parthian shot." With this ---- it'll be oil, not gold, figuratively poured into the yippity-yappity's maw. And we will all pay the price. Thank all Republicans when you get a chance. They worked hard to own it.
#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
No one wants this and no one can stop it
#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 10:50 AM | Reply
Plenty of people don't want it and plenty of people could stop it.
#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
qcp,
"Or will Trump chicken out again?"
Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out?
Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further?
This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure.
The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.
#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:53 AM | Reply
"'A whole civilization will die tonight'"
Everyone jumping to conclusions and assuming it's Iran.
I wager tRump was referring to the North Pole. Which isn't actually a country, or land, but close enough!
#18 | Posted by censored at 2026-04-07 10:56 AM | Reply
Republicans, remember: You asked for this. Given the choice between a dozen solid conservatives and one Clinton-supporting con-artist and game-show host, you chose the con-artist. You chose him freely. Nobody made you do it.
#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
Or perhaps two civilizations. The entire notion of what America was, is, and could've been will likely be destroyed tonight. And the Iranians will be proven 100% right when they repeatedly identified America as "the Great Satan"
#20 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2026-04-07 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Censor,
"I wager tRump was referring to the North Pole."
NO! He's not going to blow up Santa Claus!
#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 10:58 AM | Reply
Considering Santa Claus is obviously a Democrat, I wouldn't put it past Trump.
#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-04-07 11:01 AM | Reply
Trump's already lost Trump's War. Amazing, isn't it? A 34-times convicted felon who went bankrupt six times and failed at running casinos effed up. The man's life is a gigantic effup and he's incredibly lucky he had his old man's dough to mess with. How're things going, now that he's messing with yours?
#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-04-07 11:06 AM | Reply
This is threatening genocide
Be clear it is a threat of genocide
and not ONE MILITARY PERSON WILL REFUSE THIS ORDER
#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:09 AM | Reply
Persian civilization predates European. It'll be around. Like the Chinese. We're short-timers, by a long shot.
The civilization that's being destroyed is Western. The rule of rich white men in everything from economics to government to academia has been eroding since the 1970s. Or maybe before with independence movements in the 20th century.
And of course, American civilization started tanking at any point you want to choose, going way back. Most recent manifestation was a 2015 escalator ride. It ain't gonna stop after a staircase accident or defenstration by same.
#25 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 11:12 AM | Reply
#17 | Posted by BillJohnson
James Dobson?
#26 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-04-07 11:13 AM | Reply
"Or will Trump chicken out again?" Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out? Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further? This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure. The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.
---- you bill
Piggy is threatening genocide on 90 million people
You are ------- evil
#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
How to follow illegal orders and commit war crimes without doing exactly what you were ordered to do ...
#28 | Posted by chuffy at 2026-04-07 11:16 AM | Reply
Db,
"James Dobson?"
He's not running the country.
#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-04-07 11:17 AM | Reply
Seriously bill, ---- you
This ---- Piggy is spouting is evil
You are evil for supporting it
How many children have to die to satisfy your "christian" blood lust?
#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:22 AM | Reply
Bill is too ------- stupid to see the irony of using "death to america" as justification for genocide
#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:27 AM | Reply
Two civilizations, more like; ours and theirs.
Ours from the inside, theirs from without.
"Feel Like I'm Fixing to Die Rag"
www.youtube.com
Well, come on all of you big strong men Uncle Sam needs your help again Got himself in a terrible jam Way over yonder in old Iran
Put down your books and pick up a gun We're going to have a whole lot of fun
#32 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:29 AM | Reply
---- you bill Piggy is threatening genocide on 90 million people You are ------- evil #27 | Posted by truthhurts
Bill still doesn't understand why anyone would dislike Trump other than those who are politically motivated even after all of the felonies and sex abuse. Bill is a full fledged cult member who would kill himself if Trump asked him to do so.
#33 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-04-07 11:29 AM | Reply
The Bible, Koran, Torah etc has been used to justify killing for eons.
This is just the current iteration of it.
"We have to kill them to save them"
#34 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 11:33 AM | Reply
"Donald Trump is a ------- wimp"
-Harry Truman
#35 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 11:36 AM | Reply
who would kill himself if Trump asked him to do so.
Pedo47 would charge him for the kool aid first.
Pedo47 is the embodiment of every evil act that man has ever known...sloth, greed, lust, rape, hate, racism, lying, stealing, etc.
He has a multitude of charlatans passing him off as the Christian President. His cult is wearing his mark on their foreheads with those stupid red hats.
#36 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-04-07 11:41 AM | Reply
In Rome and Greece prior to Christianity it was acceptable, and legal, for a father to kill his own girl child, as was the brutal rule of government.
www.google.com
#37 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:42 AM | Reply
Pithy. I'm giving you Attention Eberly.
Go play now.
#38 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-04-07 11:43 AM | Reply
It is interesting that the bridge was hit in 3 places. Each end of the bridge and the very middle. What was left alone was all the concrete columns that support the bridge. I am quite certain that was a precision strike. It was decided to not totally destroy the bridge but just take it out of commission. Just throwing that out there. For some reason I thought it was interesting.
#13 | Posted by BillJohnson
Let me help you out because we all know you're a complete moron.
THE BRIDGE WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT.
You can't just throw a top back on it. It's not how bridges, especially with concrete and metal, work.
#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 11:44 AM | Reply
The Antichrist Revealed: 15 Bible Verses Identifying Trump
antichrist45.com
Whether he is THE AC, or not, the fact is he matches every description of the most diabolical character in the story.
Which should possibly just maybe be a signal to supposed believers that he's not a Christian.
Although, in the same story, it's the Fallen Church faction that follows him who enforces the mandate to have a Mark to be able to buy and sell with beheadings.
#40 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:50 AM | Reply
oh for ffs shove the anti-christ ---- up your ass
#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Is that what Trump is doing? Chickening out? Or is he deliberately giving them repeated chances to back down before things escalate further? This doesn't look like hesitation to me. It looks like applied pressure. The problem is clerics whose authority depends on never backing down, regardless of who pays the price.
Again, you're an idiot.
Iran holds all the cards.
Trump knows he can't invade because the loss of troop life would be catastrophic. We'd need well over a million troops to control the country. 4x the size of Iraq. Surrounded by mountains. 2x the population. And a military that is trained for asymmetric warfare.
Trump can only lob a few missiles.
IRAN can SHUT DOWN the Middle East anytime it wants. Take out a few desalination plants and no more water. Half these countries get 70-80% of their water from these plants. No more oil for 3-5 years. Take out some oil refineries, no more oil for 2-4 years. Iran can shut down the Strait of Hormuz again, no more oil or fertilizer. 20% of BOTH come through that Strait.
And you MAGA FIRED all the top generals who understood the situation.
So Trump either TACOs out or destroys the world economy and ours.
And idiots like YOU put him in charge.
#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
THE BRIDGE WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT. You can't just throw a top back on it. It's not how bridges, especially with concrete and metal, work.
#39 | Posted by Sycophant
That sounds awfully sciency, I doubt Bill understands or agrees with that
#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:55 AM | Reply
#41
You'll have to remove your tongue first...
Or perhaps you could refute the post with arguments to the 15 points made?
#44 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:56 AM | Reply
-15 Bible Verses Identifying Trump
Didn't you do this with Mitt Romney? And Newt Gingrich? And GWB? And Paul Ryan? And Marco Rubio? And Dick Cheney? And Karl Rove?
#45 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:00 PM | Reply
Although the main point was that it should be obvious to anyone and everyone, especially Christians, that DJT is the furthest thing from a Christian on the planet.
#46 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#45
NO. And obviously you didn't read or view it.
#47 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:02 PM | Reply
Our grandchildren will have an entire chapter of their US history book dedicated to trump et al., and the chapter is not going to say ANYTHING good about him or the men and women who enabled him.
#48 | Posted by e1g1 at 2026-04-07 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Is it possible that Trump intends to hit critical infrastructure rather than directly kill people with a strike?
that will eventually cause a lot of death if utilities, transportation, medical supplies and food all stop moving.....so it's all catastrophic...one way or the other.
#49 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:05 PM | Reply
-And obviously you didn't read or view it.
I read the bullet points of each verse. Not all the explanations.
and you should be grateful because almost nobody else will even read as much as I did.
#50 | Posted by eberly at 2026-04-07 12:08 PM | Reply
#44 | Posted by Corky
I don't have to. The whole anti-christ thing is baby stuff, child's fantasy
You're a baby for believing in it.
It's religious whackjobs like you and netanyahu and iran's ayatollahs that brought us here
#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 12:10 PM | Reply
#51
Opinions are easy, especially when they avoid all that nasty refuting an argument stuff.
But hey, not all atheists make, or even understand, that the reason they agree with the philosophic teachings of JC more than some so-called Christians do is that they are Cultural Christians; their culture having been 'weathered' by it's effects for 2000 years.
Personally, I'm not a Gnostic, so I don't KNOW THE TRUTH! like some gnostic atheists KNOW theirs is the only true belief.
#52 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:19 PM | Reply
like some gnostic atheists KNOW theirs is the only true belief.
Get over yourself. The same could be said for "some" in any religion.
#53 | Posted by horstngraben at 2026-04-07 12:26 PM | Reply
Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind.
Hello, Republicans? Backbone?
#54 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2026-04-07 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#53
Of course it could... what's your point? That TH is like a gnostic 'Christian' who knows what they know because they know it, and anyone who disagrees is a, 'baby' and a 'whackjob'?
That's pretty much what I said, too. There are theists and atheists willing to demean people who dare to disagree with them.
#55 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:34 PM | Reply
- Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind.
Good point... even MTG is calling him out bigtime:
"Our President Is Not a Christian." I Said It. I Meant It." MTG: Political Insider
Scary part may be that BJ is to the Right of all those people!
#56 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:37 PM | Reply
"Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind."
Huh Maybe I've been wrong.
#57 | Posted by danni at 2026-04-07 12:39 PM | Reply
Even Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens and Alex Jones think he's lost his mind. #54 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar
Fake News. They're only saying that because of the R after his name. Signed, Eberly
#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-04-07 12:40 PM | Reply
Now MTG is calling for the 25th Amendment solution after seeing Trump's post as in the title of this thread:
#59 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:41 PM | Reply
#49 | POSTED BY EBERLY
Sure.
And it's possible that he will fire bomb Tehran.
Of just exaggerate some little thing into some YUGE thing.
He's insane.
He's getting us in touch with the true meaning of that word.
#60 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 12:46 PM | Reply
I think that we're at that part of "The Birds" where the army of seagulls crashes into Bodega Bay and ignites the gas station.
#61 | Posted by Zed at 2026-04-07 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Good thing Trump Stole $10 billion taxpayer dollars for his "bored of peace" grift.
#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Is that Trump apologist speak for... 'Or is he threatening war crimes out of desperation'?
#63 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2026-04-07 12:52 PM | Reply
ha... et tu FOX News?:
"Ex-Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene joins left-wing calls for the 25th amendment as Iran deadline nears President Donald Trump has threatened that 'a whole civilization will die tonight'
Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene called for President Donald Trump to be removed from office via the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
"25TH AMENDMENT!!! Not a single bomb has dropped on America. We cannot kill an entire civilization. This is evil and madness," Greene wrote on X."
www.foxnews.com
#64 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 12:53 PM | Reply
The only person escalating anything is Trump.
Well. Netanyahu really.
Trump is his bitch.
#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-04-07 12:54 PM | Reply
#40 | Posted by Corky at 2026-04-07 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag:
#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-04-07 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag:
Corky puttin' off Jim Jones vibes today.
#66 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-04-07 01:06 PM | Reply
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