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Wednesday, October 09, 2024

Kali Holloway: This is no ordinary campaign, but it is exactly the campaign we needed at this extraordinary historic juncture.

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"The very idea of patriotism is transformed when advanced by a Black, biracial daughter of immigrants.

There is a sense that what is actually being invoked is the progressive idea that this country belongs to all of us. The right-wingers don't own patriotism. The flag, the chant, and the ideals they represent were never theirs alone to define."

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Article is a good recent history lesson of what actually happened and how it happened over the last few months.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-09 02:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Harris and Walz will help air the place out, refreshing it from the stench of GOPer gooberism and pathetically beta behaviors.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-10-09 07:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

LMAO Hilarious headline

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-09 09:10 AM | Reply

Oh god, it's a terrible campaign.

There are very few resonating progressive policy ideas.

It's mainly "I'm not Trump".

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-09 10:19 AM | Reply

#3

OK, Laura... so I shoulda used 'wet' instead of 'ready', lol.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-09 03:05 PM | Reply

--------- like Laura gave us Fat Donnie Loser the first time.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-09 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

--------- like Laura gave us Fat Donnie Loser the first time.

Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-09 03:28 PM | Reply

Blaming everyone but Hillary for her loss isn't intellecually honest. Just sayin

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-09 03:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Elections are simple. Trump is an enormous threat to this country and the security of the world. In our two-party system there was only one candidate who could have beaten him. Those who didn't vote for that candidate helped Trump." - #131 | Posted by rcade at 2017-01-28 11:53 AM

#8 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-09 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Those who didn't vote for that candidate helped Trump."

This is true.

But the people who did that don't give a crap. They express no regret for that.

Look no further than Laura for proof.

#9 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-09 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Exactly my point.

So pissed about Bernie she ------ everybody else.

That's illogical and frankly scary.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-09 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's sad because the first thing Trump did was screw over the LGBTQ+ community when he got in office.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-10 02:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of course there's the "she isn't Trump" aspect, but the main message I see advocates for her as someone who'll fight for the middle class and even the scales that have tipped towards the wealthy and corporations, pretty much since Reagan. Clinton and Obama tried, but Republicans have been against everything but deficit creating tax cuts, deregulation, and "sticking it to libs."

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-10-10 02:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

AU

The main message I get is that she doesn't have to lie, scheme, cheat, scam, skim, sell political favors or create false impressions to win. She doesn't have to dig up dirt, make threats, destroy careers or use ragtag hooligans as enforcers. She doesn't have to hobnob with or make promises to America's enemies in exchange for campaign chicanery. She doesn't have to use discrimination to create chaos. She doesn't have to use fear of retaliation to get support.

And she's not dodging a multitude of felony and civil indictments for fraud, attempts to overthrow the government and Espionage.

That tells me she'd be the same as a president that she is as a candidate ~ A refreshingly honest broker ~ for a welcome change.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-10-10 04:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jill Stein for President!!!

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-10-10 09:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

America? I dont think so.

You liberals really think you are the only ones in this country.

Progressives may be ready for that empty pantsuit, but the rest of the sane nation doesnt want her.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-10 09:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

, but the rest of the sane nation doesnt want her.

#15 | POSTED BY BOAZ

lol

If you really want a demented unstable twice impeached criminally negligent convicted felon in the White House (who incited an insurrection against his own government) instead of a stable reasonably intelligent prosecutor of criminals who stands ready work for Americans (and not just herself) then you are not qualified to determine who is sane.

Remember ... .THEY ARE EATING THE PETS!

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 10:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#13 you think that's the President you're getting in her...

This is her off script... this is what you'll be getting (have to re-iterate not a Trump supporter... why do we put up and rah rah any of these candidates).

www.youtube.com

#17 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-10 11:03 AM | Reply

Laura gave us Fat Donnie Loser the first time.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

How did Laura do that from Kansas?

Until the Electoral College is eliminated, Presidential elections are now decided by less than one percent of the electorate, in half a dozen swing states.

#18 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-10-10 11:16 AM | Reply

"This is her off script... "

Trump rambles incoherently for hours about whales sharks batteries windmills Hannibal Lecter and flies and Haitian immigrants eating your pets and you get concerned over a minor Harris teleprompter mishap?

You need to check your priorities son.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

RIF I outright said in that same post... Not voting for Trump, and I don't understand why anyone Rah Rah's for either of these buffoons.

But go ahead and rip out your pom poms and cheer on Harris while she uhm's and ah's and 32s until her prepared speech pops back up for her.

Now Donner, do you have anything other than a weak deflection to Trump?

#20 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-10 11:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

-Until the Electoral College is eliminated, Presidential elections are now decided by less than one percent of the electorate, in half a dozen swing states.

You'd think all the votes mattered for all the whining and moaning on this place

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-10 12:27 PM | Reply

Now Donner, do you have anything other than a weak deflection to Trump?

#20 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Sure! I got plenty.

Do you have anything other than a minor teleprompter mishap?

Because I have hours and hours of Trumpy insanity.

And comparing the two candidates is all we both have because there are no other choices.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 12:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

So your evidence that you "got plenty" is to re-iterate that you have more of the same?

My point is that you can hate Trump and not cheerlead for Kamala, and demand more from our parties.

#23 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-10 12:40 PM | Reply

My point is that you can hate Trump and not cheerlead for Kamala, and demand more from our parties.
#23 | POSTED BY KWRX25

We don't need to compare the candidates with Jesus.

Just each other.

Would I like to see more candidates and more choices? Of course.

But that's not what we have to work with. You can wish for better candidates in one hand and crap in the other see which gets filled up first.

But right now I am not willing to trash Kamala for any reason because the stakes are just too high. I am sure I will have plenty of complaints about President Harris later. But at least I will still have a democracy to do it from.

There will be plenty of time to hold her accountable and whine later. After we save our democracy from a totalitarian mob boss and his white Christian National cultists.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

You'd think all the votes mattered for all the whining and moaning on this place

#21 | Posted by eberly

All votes NOT mattering is definitely something to whine about.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-10 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But go ahead and rip out your pom poms and cheer on Harris "

It's three weeks before a major presidential election.

Cheering your favorite candidate on (while ignoring their faults) is what we Americans do and have done for centuries.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You definitely have the ignoring their faults part down...

And in my opinion it's a big reason we are here with the parties almost challenging us with the level of incompetence they roll out. They know we've turned it into a teams sports and the 'fans' will cheer on whatever s**tshow they given us as our 'team'.

The only losers in this team sports debacle that's come to be are the people.

But go ahead and rah rah tripe like "America Is So Ready for Kamala Harris"

How about "Kamala Harris is the disaster we deserve", A more apropos title for an article.

#27 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-10 01:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

How about "Kamala Harris is the disaster we deserve", A more apropos title for an article.

#27 | Posted by kwrx25

How about "Anyone but the russian puppet psychopath who attempted a coup"

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-10 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#28

Apparently there are no disqualifying factors where the Cult Leader is concerned.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 01:50 PM | Reply

#28
Apparently there are no disqualifying factors where the Cult Leader is concerned.
#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 01:50 PM

Says the party of Diane Feinstein and Joseph Biden puppeteering.

No progress, no confidence.

#30 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-10 02:24 PM | Reply

#28 that might actually be an honest start. At least it isn't artificially inflating Kamala and points to the actual reason of her popularity.

#31 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-10 02:33 PM | Reply

#28 that might actually be an honest start. At least it isn't artificially inflating Kamala and points to the actual reason of her popularity.

#31 | Posted by kwrx25

Which is a completely rational reason.

Trumpers are delusional about how hated their cult leader is, which is why they think biden's 81 million votes MUST have been fake.

They'll say the same thing this time. "His rallies were huge! That means he should win!"

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-10 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

My point is that you can hate Trump and not cheerlead for Kamala, and demand more from our parties.
#23 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Yes, but there's an election coming up in less than a month, I and a lot of people I know have already sent in our mail in ballots.

With the introduction of project 2025 and the massive changes republicans are seeking to make should Trump win.

You gotta ask yourself, what do I want America to look like in 4 years.

Democrats, with all their faults, are a better option than republicans and their stated goals.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#30 |

We are well into the realm of Lesser Evil Voting... and whether it's wise to demean the lesser evil during an election where they are running against the Greatest Evil we've ever seen as a candidate.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

artificially inflating Kamala

Is literally all democrats have.

She's still a better option than Trump.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 02:45 PM | Reply

Hannibal Lector would be a better option than Trump.

He only eats a few people... Trump is a Life Energy Vampire feeding on an entire nation.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yes. Half of it is more than ready.
The other half is too stupid to know the
obviously right option to pick.

And therein lies the national conundrum.

Are we a 'Majority Moron Nation'?
The answer hangs in the balance.

#37 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-10-10 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

the party of Diane Feinstein and Joseph Biden puppeteering.

She's dead and he's not too far behind her.

The Democratic Party is a capitalist party. Its goal is to keep America a world leader.

The Republican Party is a nationalist party and wants us to fall back while Russia and China take over.

Pick your future. A stronger America or a weaker America.

Spending the next 4 years dismantling the federal government and using the military to deport Americans sounds like a horrible path to take.

Which is also why Harris was a bad choice ...

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#30 | We are well into the realm of Lesser Evil Voting... and whether it's wise to demean the lesser evil during an election where they are running against the Greatest Evil we've ever seen as a candidate.
#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 02:42 PM

Interesting framing, and I'm not swayed.

Another election of voting against, rather than for.

Which policy am I expected to benefit from? A small business loan? Tax refund? FFS.

Biden wouldn't even expand SCOTUS or curb the filibuster, let alone impose regulation on venture capitalist parasite or his own donor class.

Lowest hanging fruit just left to rot.

No progress, no confidence.

#39 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-10 03:03 PM | Reply

- I'm not swayed.

RLR! Are you saying you are feeling stiff right now?

Sorry, I do that to everyone, $^),

;

- Biden - expand SCOTUS or curb the filibuster

IS hardly 'low hanging fruit' in the current political environment of not being guaranteed even one of the Senate or the House.... as the Executive can't do those things without losing one or both.

I have no problem with either of those things, but I'm not our current Cultized (ok, i made that werd up) swing voter profile... which would prolly include neither of those things.

And none of those things will get done without Priorities''' and the main Priority must needs be Elections being Publicly Financed by 'donations' or taxes on Major Corporations/ Billionaires (like Trump) /Oligarchs... and by Major Media who can By God provide Election coverage over OUR By God AIRWAVES that belong the People and are currently being abused cheaply by them.

... because the love of money is the root of all evil, and evil will infest our government only as long as we let it.

Also this:

www.youtube.com

Because I care!

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 03:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In reference: #18 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-10-10 11:16 AM

I believe that our host said best:

"Elections are simple. Trump is an enormous threat to this country and the security of the world. In our two-party system there was only one candidate who could have beaten him. Those who didn't vote for that candidate helped Trump." - #131 | Posted by rcade at 2017-01-28 11:53 AM

#41 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-10 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 Sycopphant That's not rue. There may be some never Trumpers voting for her espeecially among Republicans, but many of us like her policies. She and Walz actually want to promote and help the middleclass and poor. Also Trump's giving tax breaks to the rich needs to be reversed. The rich and big corporations need to pay more in taxes, they can afford it and still be rich. zsge aslo plans to stop prrice gouging by companies or are you agaunst that too. We need to vote blue across the board. A blue Congress, Senate and Presidency will or should start passing laws that help the average American. Also we can impeach Alito and Thomas and get some rational judges in there. Trickle economics never worked and never will.

#42 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-10-10 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's get down to brass tacks. Kamala Harris is a post turtle. Nothing more. She couldn't even get her own campaign off of the ground four years ago. Now she's supposedly the standard bearer?? Puhlease don't insult my intelligence like that.

#43 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-10 03:58 PM | Reply

It has nothing to do with you and more to do with what Project 2025 will do to the LGBTQ community.

Especially to transgender people.

You're free to vote for whoever you want, Kansas will go red regardless.

But don't for a moment think both parties are the same when they come to your civil rights.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 04:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#38 No, she isn't. She has policies and stands for the average American. Would you rather have Biden who is slowing down or someone who will stand up for us against the rich and big corporations?

#45 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-10-10 04:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#42 - NW, Thanks!

#43 - Whiny, no thanks!

She's much better option than the criminal traitor candidate, and that's enough for this election.

If you are right, which you aren't and it sounds sexist and racist, but if you are then that can be fixed later.

Unless of course you have a better viable option?

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 04:04 PM | Reply

No, she isn't.

I'm talking demographics.

A white man has a much better chance at winning a national election than a Southeast Asian / Jamaican, Black woman from California.

Also. Her policies are Democratic Policies. Anyone the democrats would have chosen would have pretty much an identical platform.

Harris is a gamble.

I don't believe America has gotten that far beyond racism yet.

Racism and hate are literally what's fueling the Trump campaign.

Hate migrants, immigrants, progressives, Black people, the LGBTQ ... vote Republican.

They got 74 million people to vote for them just 4 years ago.

They'll get more than that in November.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 04:15 PM | Reply

#43

Sometimes Laura, your ignorance knows no bounds.

*49th Vice President of the United States - Incumbent - Assumed office January 20, 2021

*United States Senator from California - In office January 3, 2017 - January 18, 2021

*32nd Attorney General of California - In office - January 3, 2011 - January 3, 2017

*27th District Attorney of San Francisco - In office - January 8, 2004 - January 3, 2011

Kamala Harris has won every single general election she's been on the ballot for over the last 20 years and garnered over 96 Million total votes in California and nationally as Vice President.

You wouldn't know a post turtle if it kissed you on your cheek.

Kamala Harris is the most experienced person to run for the presidency since the 1930s. She's had over 30 years of government experience and 4 years of experience in the only job actually relevant to actually being President, the VP slot.

It's ridiculous so many people are trying to diminish her accomplished career. She's never lost a race for elective office yet. She had no path to the nomination in 2020, being a law and order prosecutor trying to compete in the Democratic primary with no natural constituency to build a campaign base from. How was she going to compete with Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, and all the rest? She smartly dropped out and became the pick for VP. Post turtles don't make strategic decisions that lead them to the foot of the presidency and now to the head of her party's ticket. Post turtles also don't raise $1 billion from donors in less than 3 months, something never done in history.

#48 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-10 04:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Until the Electoral College is eliminated, Presidential elections are now decided by less than one percent of the electorate, in half a dozen swing states.

To be replaced with what? Being decided by two or three cities in overcrowded blue states?

No thanks..

#49 | Posted by boaz at 2024-10-10 04:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-I don't believe America has gotten that far beyond racism yet.

I have more faith than that.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2024-10-10 04:26 PM | Reply

Harris is a gamble.

I don't believe America has gotten that far beyond racism yet.

Racism and hate are literally what's fueling the Trump campaign.

I don't disagree with that assessment. But the reality of the situation was that Harris was the only Democrat in position to do what she's done. There is a reason none of the other Democrats on the Deep Bench threw their hats in the ring. None of them could have assumed all the campaign cash that Biden had other than his running mate.

And after Biden threw his support to Harris, any convention fight would have doomed Democratic chances up and down the ballot because in order to differentiate from each other, there would have been open criticism and policy differences that Trump would have jumped on himself.

The one thing you've actually ignored is that Harris isn't running as a women or on her ethnicity. She's wisely made her campaign about SERVICE - her lifelong service to her constituencies and her 4 years of service as VP. Yet she's still able to run as a change agent because everyone knows that Biden made the final decisions, not Harris, and she faithfully supported him up until he dropped out.

So many bigoted or misogynous people may not vote for her, but Obama won, didn't he? You'd be saying the same things about him now if he were running for the first time. And there have never been the number of prominent Republicans backing any Democrat that are now backing Harris. There are sane Republicans who understand Trump for the threat he is as a threat to end democracy as we know it.

So Harris' otherness is not quite as determinative as it might have been otherwise. We'll know who's right in the next 3 1/2 weeks.

#51 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-10 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To be replaced with what? Being decided by two or three cities in overcrowded blue states?

No thanks..

#49 | Posted by boaz

As opposed to empty land?

No, that totally sounds fair.

#52 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-10 04:31 PM | Reply

- Harris was the only Democrat in position to do what she's done.

This seemingly obvious fact seemingly doesn't seem to much matter in some wishful thinking.

Don't know why not....

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 04:35 PM | Reply

#49

Being decided by a majority of Americans.

You ------- idiot.

#54 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-10 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

To be replaced with what? Being decided by two or three cities in overcrowded blue states?

No thanks..

#49 | Posted by boaz

Tell me that's why that's bad and why it's better to have it be decided by people who live in the middle of nowhere.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-10-10 04:49 PM | Reply

#4 Sycopphant That's not rue. There may be some never Trumpers voting for her espeecially among Republicans, but many of us like her policies. She and Walz actually want to promote and help the middleclass and poor. Also Trump's giving tax breaks to the rich needs to be reversed. The rich and big corporations need to pay more in taxes, they can afford it and still be rich. zsge aslo plans to stop prrice gouging by companies or are you agaunst that too. We need to vote blue across the board. A blue Congress, Senate and Presidency will or should start passing laws that help the average American. Also we can impeach Alito and Thomas and get some rational judges in there. Trickle economics never worked and never will.

#42 | Posted by Ronnie68

What policies?

She only has a few. And I like what she has.

But she has been so careful in announcing any provocative or truly progressive policies that she isn't giving us any real transformative reason to vote for her. It's "she's not Trump and basically just another Democrat." Obama at least had the Affordable Care Act.

#56 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-10 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

She's never lost a race for elective office yet. *

*In California.

I think we can all agree, California is slightly more progressive than most of the country.

But. I do agree with you, Tony. I'm just worried about how this all shook out in 2016.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-10-10 06:18 PM | Reply

Legal,

"-------- like Laura gave us Fat Donnie Loser the first time.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-10-09 03:28 PM"

You know...there might be some truth to that.

While my issue wasn't Gay Marriage itself, the Supreme Court passing something I doubted I would see so soon showed me the SC was liberal enough to pass anything.

Trump got to nominate 3 justices and I was deeply concerned what Hillary might do.

After voting Dem for years, I chose to vote for Trump.

At the time I feared the SC making women second class citizens by protecting trans women in female only areas.

#58 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-10-10 06:25 PM | Reply

Legal,

The current emphasis on protecting trans women at the expense of women born female is nothing short of misogyny.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-10-10 06:29 PM | Reply

Laura,

Let me help you out.

-- Bill Johnson.

ST--.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-10-10 06:32 PM | Reply

Laura,
Let me help you out.
-- Bill Johnson.

ST--.
#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-10-10 06:32 PM

Self-retort award winner!

Pity there are posts you can't abort. Blame QWERTY vs Wade.

#61 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-10 06:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Says the party of Diane Feinstein and Joseph Biden puppeteering.

No progress, no confidence.

#30 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

Isn't it interesting that you picked the two of the most powerful democrats in the party who are voluntarily stepping back from power and handing the torch to a new generation instead of desperately trying to hold onto it til the bitter end by any means including violence.

Seems like progress to me.

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#49

Being decided by a majority of Americans.

You ------- idiot.

#54 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD

America is the only democracy that has an "electoral college".

And the only reason we have it was to compromise with the slave holding states to get them to sign in to the Constitution.

It's true. We don't need it any more.

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 08:54 PM | Reply

Says the party of Diane Feinstein and Joseph Biden puppeteering.
No progress, no confidence.
#30 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT
Isn't it interesting that you picked the two of the most powerful democrats in the party who are voluntarily stepping back from power and handing the torch to a new generation instead of desperately trying to hold onto it til the bitter end by any means including violence.
Seems like progress to me.
#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-10-10 08:26 PM

Isn't it interesting that President Biden repeats ZAKA talking points. His PDB's are a product of our intelligence apparatus. Kamala has expressed no difference in opinion in regards to Bidens' secretive manner, abusive and short at all times and always propaganda continuing the genocide.

Whether it is a lobbyist-bought fist wiggling it's digits from inside of a dead, decrepit facade of a public servant, or just remembering the years of police raids on families for fear of a pot plant - Robinette does not serve the interests of the 99% but rather catering to a fictional "middle class" while factually in the service of privatizing interests.

No progress means no ---- confidence, my man.

When Biden speaks the truth about the genocide - ONLY THEN.

#64 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-10 09:13 PM | Reply

Biden or Harris supporting the strategic importance of Israel while condemning the genocide is better than having Traitor Trump in office again. Period.

Let's not pretend there's a third choice; there is not.

Comparing imperfections, since holding out for the perfect is self-abusive, not to mention abusive to others, is an irrational position; one finds that Harris is a much better choice of the only two options no matter what warts she might have, real or imagined.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#49 ... To be replaced with what? ...

Simple, the popular vote.

The candidate that gets the most votes wins.

See, simple.


What is so difficult to understand about that?


#66 | Posted by lamplighter at 2024-10-10 09:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Biden or Harris supporting the strategic importance of Israel while condemning the genocide is better than having Traitor Trump in office again. Period.
Let's not pretend there's a third choice; there is not.
Comparing imperfections, since holding out for the perfect is self-abusive, not to mention abusive to others, is an irrational position; one finds that Harris is a much better choice of the only two options no matter what warts she might have, real or imagined.
#65 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 09:45 PM

War with Iran appears to be on the Biden agenda. The escalation is entirely under the control of the US of A. So are voters if she can earn them.

#67 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-10 09:55 PM | Reply

Restraining Israel has been higher on the agenda... and why, pray tell, would Biden want war with Iran?

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-10 10:44 PM | Reply

... America Is So Ready for Kamala Harris ...

Yeah, I'm not yet convinced of that.

If America were so ready for VP Harris, then why aren't her polling numbers better?

My current view, based upon the polling I see, is that we should prepare to welcome in a Pres Trump on January 20, 2025.

#69 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-10-10 10:50 PM | Reply

Do we have to news articles with headlines written in valley girl dialect?

#70 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-10-11 07:57 AM | Reply

Jesus Christ Tony you've gone off the deep end

'Kamala Harris is the most experienced person to run for the presidency since the 1930s. She's had over 30 years of government experience and 4 years of experience in the only job actually relevant to actually being President, the VP slot.'

I know plenty of empty suits in my field. Long careers, climbed the ladder... and are completely useless.

I know plenty of people whose main accomplishment in their career is showing up for the past 40 years.

She can't answer any simple question that isn't scripted. There's more to experience than being in the room.

#71 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 10:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Will the real Kamala Harris, please stand up, please stand up.

#72 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-11 11:25 AM | Reply

She can't answer any simple question that isn't scripted. There's more to experience than being in the room.

Do you realize how many cases she's tried in courtrooms where her entire job was to both speak and respond to what others have said immediately because she was prepared?

Just because you're both dismissive and ignorant doesn't mean that Harris somehow has made it all the way through 7 elections over 20 years - never losing a single one - into the vice presidency, yet she can't talk extemporaneously?

It's so moronic to hear this complaint over and over again when the simple truth is this: The same people complaining about her measuring her words and thoughts are also the ones endlessly complaining if she misspeaks, or heaven forbid changes her position on an issue because circumstances have changed, or her constituencies preferences have changed.

With this dichotomy it's impossible for her to win because she has to do one or the other and you're ready to criticize no manner which one she chooses.

And lastly, because critics want to pounce on any deviations from prior years, an intelligent person would try not to give critics more ammunition to use against them for the sake of answering in a too detailed manner. Believe it or not, an intelligent leader always wants to leave themselves room to maneuver on both policy and issues unless they have unilateral power to implement them without consideration by others inside government. Being too precise with detail can constrain one in ways they'll later regret and turn potential allies into foes when it comes time to compromise before the finished policy takes shape.

#73 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#72 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-11 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag: Thoroughly confused

#74 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-11 12:52 PM | Reply

#73 excellent point Tony... She's probably excellent in a court room. That doesn't mean she knows jack s*** about ANYTHING else related to the presidency, and you can see it in her eyes every time she has to speak about anything related to THAT job.

"Being too precise with detail can constrain one in ways they'll later regret"... So when she was raised in a middle class house, over middle class day care, and knowing who runs a small business... That was her leaving herself not constrained to details on how she planned to lower prices.

Because it sure sounded to me like she doesn't have any plan or policies she wants to enact to meet that goal, and spewed a rehearsed line that she has trotted out many times.

You don't like Trump, but damn, you gotta stop carrying her water so badly.

#75 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 01:06 PM | Reply

Tony have you never seen the person that has risen to a position above their level of competence? I'm sure she was a good enough DA. Doesn't mean she's not in over her head as President.

The funny thing is no one really thought to differently on this before Biden dropped out. There was plenty of talk about her being a burden on the ticket.... Now though, No one in almost a century is prepared as her. F'n laughable.

#76 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 01:09 PM | Reply

Someone let us know when she becomes a World Class Liar and a criminal traitor, m'k?

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 01:13 PM | Reply

Corky, I know you're a bit slow... it's been said a few times though...

This isn't about comparing her to Trump... it's about cheerleading for a mediocre candidate as if they were a world class statesman.

#78 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 01:16 PM | Reply

This isn't about comparing her to Trump... it's about cheerleading for a mediocre candidate

#78 | Posted by kwrx25

Who looks like a frigging genius when compared to Trump.

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 01:19 PM | Reply

Corky, I know you're a bit slow... it's been said a few times though...

This isn't about comparing her to Trump... it's about cheerleading for a mediocre candidate as if they were a world class statesman.

#78 | Posted by kwrx25

It's about cheerleading a competent candidate.

Do you understand what that is?

#80 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-10-11 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#78

No. Slomo, it's about not letting a criminal traitor back into the WH.

You think she's a mediocre candidate?

So the F what?

Politics ain't beanbag. it's life and death for some people every election, especially this one

Why not save your whining about a totally irrelevant subject such as what kind of a candidate she is or was until after we save Democracy?

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

per x25...

Perhaps as a 'Libertarian' your time might be better spent looking into what libertarian billionaires like Peter Thiel, who now owns his own VP Candidate in Shady JD, has planned to replace democracy in this country:

drudge.com

Or perhaps an Authoritarian Corporate Government as they have in Singapore is your goal as well as Mr Thiel's.

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 01:36 PM | Reply

That doesn't mean she knows jack s*** about ANYTHING else related to the presidency, and you can see it in her eyes every time she has to speak about anything related to THAT job.

You continue to wallow in ignorance the way a pig does in slop. Just because you don't know anything about her past doesn't mean that I don't. Why not educate yourself instead of spouting Trump's insipid talking points verbatim? And as with most people, there's good and not so good reports from her long career, but one that shows she indeed grew into her role as chief of her Vice Presidential staff.

We spoke to 5 people who knew Kamala Harris before she was VP. Here's what we learned

When Harris became San Francisco's first female district attorney, she pursued Lateefah Simon for a job in her office. Simon declined the offer a few times, but recalls Harris telling her, "You can either carry this bullhorn on your back for the rest of your life, demanding that elected officials work for you and the young people that you care about, or you can become a part of my team, and we can actually deconstruct some of these inequities."

Simon went on to work for Harris for several years, and remembers her as a boss with high expectations. On Simon's first day, the new employee arrived "dressed down" in casual clothes, and Harris sent her home saying, "You are being paid by the very victims and survivors through tax dollars to represent them in this role. You will come with everything that you have every day."

Harris has earned a reputation for having a high turnover of staff over her years as a public official. Duran left his job as her communications director after just five months. His on-the-record criticisms echo the complaints of some other former employees who will only speak anonymously.

While Duran says Harris assembled a team of highly competent people, he says he was often frustrated by how long she could take to make decisions. He describes her as someone who was exacting on certain details of cases but could struggle with other details. He recalls a boss with standards that were high without being clear.

"I found it hard to navigate a situation where it wasn't really clear to me how I could do a good job because doing the job in a way that had worked everywhere else didn't seem to work there," he says.

At the same time, Duran acknowledges that that toughness may have come from the unequal pressures placed on Harris. "I think she's very aware of her place in history," he says, "And I think she felt that she would be held to a much, much higher standard than white or male politicians."

#83 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 02:11 PM | Reply

Kamala Harris ran her office like a prosecutor. Not everyone liked that.

But in interviews, former staff who signed the letter acknowledged it also addressed one of Harris's perceived weaknesses as a candidate and elected official: her demanding management style. People who have worked for Harris say her interactions with staff can resemble a prosecutor prying details from a witness, asking pointed questions about everything from her schedule to policy briefings. And her cautious approach to big decisions has frustrated deputies rather than inspire them.

But interviews with 33 current and former staffers and allies show that Harris herself - and the team around her - have undergone important changes since the most difficult days of her first year as vice president. These people close to Harris, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of assessing the Democratic nominee's leadership, say she grew into the role, found policy issues that more closely aligned with her comfort areas and replaced key aides with staffers who responded better to her management style.

People close to Harris say her widely praised presidential rollout, in which she quickly locked down the Democratic nomination following Biden's withdrawal and moved to capitalize on her party's enthusiasm and energy, are testaments to her management. They also point to the growing pool of alumni who have rejoined her team, particularly this summer. At least 20 staffers who previously worked for Harris are now working on her campaign, such as policy experts Rohini Kosoglu and Ike Irby, veterans of both her Senate and vice president's office.

Those allies and staffers say that Harris's management style hasn't changed - but the circumstances have. Rather than trying to find her voice as a first-time presidential candidate or brand-new vice president, she has suddenly become the party's standard-bearer. Office disputes during the height of the pandemic are now viewed as minor frustrations as Harris fights to keep Trump out of the White House.

"Her leadership roles, the way she thinks through problems and wants to tackle them - those have been a very consistent through line," Irby said in a recent interview. "The mechanics around her - and the opportunities that those offices provide for leadership - those have changed."

"She holds herself to an incredibly high standard, and therefore, she holds her team to a really high standard," expecting their work to be thorough and complete, said Daniel Suvor, a former aide in California's attorney general's office between 2014 and 2017.

No one is claiming that Harris is perfect, but simply acknowledging that unless a black female has extraordinary talent there is no way they would ascend to the heights Harris has. She's not a part of any "old boys network" or a legacy who got a leg up simply due to birth.

As I mentioned before, I know that her reticence in making decisions in the past was completely based on her fears of getting it wrong with all the attendant negative attention or opinions - like yours - sure to follow. When a person is a narcissist like Trump, he doesn't care if he gets it wrong or if he does complete 180 turns because it fits his personal or political goals. For those outside the normal power structures, those are career stoppers, if not outright killers.

I appreciate people who actually learn from their mistakes instead of blindly repeating them over and over again.

#84 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't listen to Trump... So I don't know his talking points. What I do know is how Kamala reacts to questions.

"instead of spouting Trump's insipid talking points verbatim?"... Wrong, just because I don't carry her water, doesn't mean I'm carrying his.

#85 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 03:30 PM | Reply

So I don't know his talking points.

You certainly repeat them though:

Aug. 3
unable to put two sentences together'

Aug. 3
unable to speak properly without a Teleprompter'

Aug. 5
INCOMPETENT'

Aug. 10
grossly incompetent'

Aug. 24
Weakest Presidential Candidate

Aug. 29
totally inept'

www.nytimes.com

The funny thing is no one really thought to differently on this before Biden dropped out.

This is the biggest reason ignorant people like you beclown yourselves after getting high on your own supply for 4 years.

Answer me this: Who other than Kamala Harris could immediately coalesce the entire spectrum of disparate liberal/progressive groups, organizations and politicians behind her campaign while turning a 7 point deficit into a 2 point advantage in a matter of days? Who else could build a campaign staff and organization that seamlessly took over from Biden, united an entire party, get rock-ribbed Republican deities to endorse her candidacy and pull off an entire convention that dwarfed the viewership of the RNC? Who else could raise more than $1 billion in less than 90 days - 40% of which came from donations less than $200? Who else chose a running mate with their first executive decision, based on her "gut" feeling, and that person immediately has the highest favorability with all Americans of the 4 people running on either ticket?

Your problem is that you're unable to see what's right before your lying eyes. What Harris has done is remarkable in ways you choose to ignore. And if she could manage to do all that I presented above, who would then say that person was "incompetent" or unable to effectively lead?

#86 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

= What Harris has done is remarkable

In the Make America White Again world, it's so remarkable, and admirable, as to be disbelieved by many based on their often ignorant, and wrong, perceptions about her race and gender.

They fear what they don't understand.

#87 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 04:31 PM | Reply

Your problem is that you credit the actions of the DNC to Harris.

who would then say that person was "incompetent".... A person who watched her brain recreate the old Castrol GT motor commercials by over revving and seizing up while repeating the number 32 over and over because her teleprompter broke.

Again Tony you miss the point that everyone that roots for a team instead of examining the candidates makes. I'm trying to evaluate her as a candidate. You're just trying to build her up against Trump.

If you looked at her objectively, you'd probably see that she's not that great a candidate. She's better than Trump, but she doesn't deserve all the praise you're willing to dish out for her.

But who knows, I'm just ignorant apparently because I see different things when looking at her actions. The lovely left, love diversity, as long as it isn't different from their diversity.

#88 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 04:35 PM | Reply

"You're just trying to build her up against Trump."

This is what we are supposed to do in an election. It is literally one or the other to win. Who has the ability to be objective after the candidate is selected???

#89 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2024-10-11 04:38 PM | Reply

I thought the Daddy's Enormous Income hire was going to go work a deep fryer for 30 minutes.

Does anyone have the video?

#90 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 04:42 PM | Reply

- you credit the actions of the DNC to Harris.

As of 2 mos ago Kamala runs the Dem Party and the DNC is election support staff.

;

And... are you a Peter Thiel's JD Vance Authoritarian Corporation Libertarian, or some other kind?

#91 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 04:50 PM | Reply

Your problem is that you credit the actions of the DNC to Harris.

Again, you show that you don't begin to understand how all this works. The convention is run by and for the campaign based on what they want, not what the DNC wants. The convention Harris had was NOT the one Biden was going to have. Many of the speakers wouldn't have been there, and certainly not Harris' extended family and Walz' family being spotlighted and beloved by America. Her message was completely different from Biden's because he wasn't able to bring women's autonomy to the forefront like Harris/Walz has been able to from first hand perspectives.

If you looked at her objectively, you'd probably see that she's not that great a candidate.

If you don't want to believe me, then listen to Karl Rove, who tried to kill Kamala's ascension before it started.

Karl Rove was fearful of Kamala Harris's presidential star power when she first ran for the AG of California. In 2010. That's a long time ago, folks.

After Rove got involved to tank her AG campaign, Kamala barely won that race (less than a percentage point) against her opponent, Cooley. Say what you will about Turd Blossom, but he was certainly prescient about Kamala...enough to get involved in a California AG race: Why would Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie care so much who ends up as the California AG? It looks like they're looking well beyond next Tuesday.

Kamala Harris is a logical target. She has had an impressive rise on the way to her current post as District Attorney of San Francisco. She is California's first African-American DA, and has scored big successes in that office, showing a combination of toughness and brains. If she wins next week, she would be the state's first female Attorney General. She is also a friend and early supporter of Barack Obama. It seems obvious that Rove and Gillespie should fear Harris' potential to win higher office. Many former Attorneys General have been governors, members of congress, and presidential candidates.

When asked whether the RSLC wants to block Harris' further ascent, their spokesman told the Bee "if that is a byproduct of defeating her, we're perfectly happy with that."

www.huffpost.com

Rove called her "the female Obama," and whatever you say about Obama, him being inarticulate, unintelligent or mediocre aren't on the list.

Again, you're dismissing decades of accomplishments and preparation for where she is today. Why do you think she was so comfortable and relatable to average Americans immediately after she replaced Biden?

Please, go ahead believe and see whatever you want. You've not brought one salient argument or opinion other than yours to this discussion while I've presented you with thousands of words substantiating my own. It is what it is.

#92 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm pretty sure she is going to win, so I guess we'll get to see the ultimate answer to the debate. Does she get up there and lead, or look like a deer in the headlights.

#93 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-10-11 05:01 PM | Reply

She's taken over the Party with no prior planning and in 2 mos turned the election around completely.

That sounds like competence to me.

#94 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 05:06 PM | Reply

Just want to point out that Elon Musk is running a Super Pac

He is also talking regularly with -------.

It is illegal for a candidate to coordinate with a Super Pac

#95 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-11 05:21 PM | Reply

I'm pretty sure she is going to win

From your lips to God's ears. But Harris has never been a placeholder in any job she's competed for and earned by in her own right.

And let me leave you with what continually goes almost ignored.

A Black American woman of Jamaican and Indian ethnicity - largely unknown to those who don't follow politics - is her major party's emergency replacement at the head of the ticket and moved the electoral dynamics from a sure loss to a possible EC win (I think a popular vote win should be a lock based on the last 32 years). And she's done so NOT by playing up her gender or race but by showing an intelligence, toughness, strength, warmth and compassion that her opponent is incapable of based on an unshakable belief in continuing America's democratic experiment towards becoming a more perfect union for all citizens, not just those who like and vote for her.

Will it be enough? I'm just like you, we'll find out soon.

#96 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 05:25 PM | Reply

#95

Not exactly sport.

Federal candidates and officeholders may raise funds on behalf of Super PACs so long as they only solicit funds subject to the Federal Election Campaign Act's (the Act) amount limitations and source prohibitions"i.e., up to $5,000 from individuals (and any other source not prohibited by the Act from making a contribution to a political committee). Additionally, federal candidates and officeholders may attend, speak at and be featured guests at fundraisers for Super PACs at which unlimited individual, corporate and labor organization contributions are solicited, so long as they restrict any solicitation they make to funds subject to the limitations, prohibitions and reporting requirements of the Act.
www.fec.gov

#97 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-11 05:27 PM | Reply

She's taken over the Party with no prior planning and in 2 mos turned the election around completely.
- corky

Her campaign is in a death spiral. Hence the Obama appearance, which really didn't go well.

She started off great, the convention was great. Then she went into hiding.

Now she strikes and is struggling to gain traction.

Idk Corky.

#98 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-11 05:30 PM | Reply

#91

Good question.

Maybe (s)he is a Koch Brothers' Open Borders Cult type Libertarian.

#99 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 05:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#98

Trump just pooped his pants in Detroit while also taking a verbal dump on the citizens of Detroit ... . and that was the most coherent he's been since he promised never to discuss his ear-graze again.

#100 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 05:36 PM | Reply

" Her campaign is in a death spiral."

Shes polling ahead of Trump in republican slanted polls.

you're an idiot.

#101 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-10-11 05:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Hence the Obama appearance

Number Two Son is SO out of touch with reality.

As if Obama, and Bubba in the South, btw, weren't always going to be on the Campaign Trail for Kamala.

Where did you learn about American politics... Shanghai?

Speaking of how well Kamala is doing on the Trail:

Watch Kamala's VIRAL Moment At The END Of Her Latino Townhall

www.youtube.com

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 05:47 PM | Reply

Obama takes down Trump on the Trail:

www.youtube.com

you can start at 5:45 if you're antsy

#103 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 06:04 PM | Reply

American citizens are not going back ever again. NEVER AGAIN will we accept incompetence, a fool and a political radical such as we got from this adminstration.

#104 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-11 06:36 PM | Reply

#104

Your cult leader paid someone to take the SAT for him. His late sister said so.
Trump wouldn't be even managing a Dairy Queen if he hadn't inherited a $413 million dollar real estate empire from his white supremacist daddy.

The wannabe Emperor has no brain. Most of us are smart enough to know that.

#105 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 06:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

incompetence, a fool and a political radical

#104 | Posted by Robson

That's Trump, ROBSON; and that's you.

#106 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 06:47 PM | Reply

The wannabe Emperor has no brain. Most of us are smart enough to know that.

#105 | Posted by anton

ROBSON knows that, too. But he has this newly minted hate for Haitians. And hate for anyone who has a higher percentage of non-white blood than he does.

#107 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 06:49 PM | Reply

48. ROMA. But KAMALA was never elected to any position that pertains to this election. She was appointed by political insiders to every position in this election. We need change agents not same ole corrupt political machines. I would never vote for Kamala because we need change.

#108 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-11 06:49 PM | Reply

lol... Bizarro TrumpWorld where the criminal traitor candidate sells 4 dollar bibles from China to the Cult for much much more. And wheedles a billion $s from big oil as a fee for services rendered?

And Joe Biden as a, 'political radical'? Presidential Historians just threw up a little in their mouths.

Boyson must be from Mars.

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 06:49 PM | Reply

We need change agents not same ole corrupt political machines.

#108 | Posted by Robson

Trump will change the definition of Caucassion such that your kids become mixed-race.

That's change any racist can believe in.

#110 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 06:52 PM | Reply

American citizens are not going back ever again. NEVER AGAIN will we accept incompetence, a fool and a political radical such as we got from this Trump's maladministration.

Absolutely correct. A million Americans died due to Trump's error coinciding with a global pandemic, and all he offered was for citizens to stick UV lights up their derrieres or ingest poisonous disinfectant.

If things are so bad, why is every single economic and social metric trending upwards, most far exceeding where they were on the day Trump left office without even bothering to attend the inauguration of his successor?

#111 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 06:54 PM | Reply

#109 | Posted by Corky

You can't argue with ROBSON, CORKY. His hate and silliness are impenetrable defenses. You can only point out what a waste of US citizenship he is.

#112 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 06:54 PM | Reply

Had a DNA test, ROBSON? You should be scared to. Trump really cares nothing about immigrants. He's after the n----rs. Like you'll prove to be.

#113 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 06:56 PM | Reply

But KAMALA was never elected to any position that pertains to this election.

She was elected Vice President along with Joe Biden. And to top that, constitutionally Joe Biden cannot fire her BECAUSE she was elected into her position by the People, she wasn't appointed to serve at his leisure as every other officer or official inside the President's Cabinet or staff was.

Perhaps you should pick up a Constitution sometime and actually read it beyond the 2nd Amendment,

#114 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 06:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Perhaps you should pick up a Constitution sometime and actually read it beyond the 2nd Amendment,

#114 | Posted by tonyroma

Do you really think ROBSON has read the 2nd Amendment?

#115 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 07:00 PM | Reply

Time for one of ROBSON'S snappy comebacks.

#116 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 07:01 PM | Reply

#108

Hey dummy, go Google how many BILLIONS of dollars Attorney General Kamala Harris recovered from corporate fraudster scum like Trump then come back and whine some more.

#117 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 07:02 PM | Reply

She's taken over the Party with no prior planning and in 2 mos turned the election around completely.
That sounds like competence to me.
#94 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 05:06 PM

The DNC was forced to acknowledge reality after petitions, several celebrity scoldings and public outcry.

#95
Not exactly sport.
Federal candidates and officeholders may raise funds on behalf of Super PACs so long as they only solicit funds subject to the Federal Election Campaign Act's (the Act) amount limitations and source prohibitions"i.e., up to $5,000 from individuals (and any other source not prohibited by the Act from making a contribution to a political committee). Additionally, federal candidates and officeholders may attend, speak at and be featured guests at fundraisers for Super PACs at which unlimited individual, corporate and labor organization contributions are solicited, so long as they restrict any solicitation they make to funds subject to the limitations, prohibitions and reporting requirements of the Act.
www.fec.gov
#97 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-10-11 05:27 PM

So, legalized bribes. Got it.

Normalization of this imbalance creates a government of grifters.

You might admire Harris' monetary draw for now, but she isn't Taylor Swift.

#118 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-11 07:04 PM | Reply

= she isn't Taylor Swift.

She also isn't Donald Trump, which is good enough for this election, no matter how unfortune one thinks that might be.

Pining over Jill Stein isn't going to help.

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 07:11 PM | Reply

She was elected Vice President along with Joe Biden. And to top that, constitutionally Joe Biden cannot fire her BECAUSE she was elected into her position by the People, she wasn't appointed to serve at his leisure as every other officer or official inside the President's Cabinet or staff was.

Perhaps you should pick up a Constitution sometime and actually read it beyond the 2nd Amendment,

Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 06:58 PM | Reply

You have the utter gall to me ignorant. The Vice President is NOT elected into their position by the people. The Electoral college elects the President and Vice President respectively. Civics 101 is your friend.

#120 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-10-11 07:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#120 That was FNW. I accidently his FF. When you're right, you're right. Kamala was not elected. She was never the people's choice.

#121 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-10-11 07:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Some one posted above some arb BS claiming I hated Haitians. Actually I once worked for a Haitian engineer. A good man and we liked each other a lot. We were good friends amd respected each other. As a side note I once gave him a large number of antique Port au Prince photo post cards that were not common in Haiti to remember his homeland.

You see the ideology of Democrats is always about creating hate and divide for groups with no regard to individuals. I truly cant stand warped Dem and left wing ideology. Everything Democrats create is bad news for society.

You elect such Democrat broad brush haters and you are most certainly cutting your own throat and destroying your country and our future.

#122 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-11 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

= she isn't Taylor Swift.
She also isn't Donald Trump, which is good enough for this election, no matter how unfortune one thinks that might be.
Pining over Jill Stein isn't going to help.
#119 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 07:11 PM

What fundamental changes should I expect?

If any of these politicians were in office for progress we would notice.

What they don't want us to recognize is the grift.

Contractors, lobbyists, PAC's and dark money is hard to compete with on a minimum wage.

#123 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-10-11 07:46 PM | Reply

#122 | Posted by Robson

You're such a liar, ROBSON.

You've got no more morality than Trump, and he has none at all.

#124 | Posted by Zed at 2024-10-11 07:49 PM | Reply

#122

Since you know a Haitian person, please let us know what mysterious language "they" speak. Trumpty Dumpty says we can't find interpreters for their unknown tongue.

#125 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 07:53 PM | Reply

Distain and hate is embedded in Democrat DNA and frankly I and others in society are tired of it.

#126 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-11 07:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#126

What language(s) do Haitians speak?

#127 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-11 08:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- What fundamental changes should I expect?

If Harris wins, and Trump doesn't perform a better Coup this time, you can prolly expect the Dems to get both houses of Congress sometime soon, and start passing the good policy Bills they have had burned by the Republicans.

Including Public Financing for Elections funded by Corps and Media, which is the key to doing anything else.

Losers like Robson have decided to burn the Gov down with Trump.... while his plans include screwing them again with another yuuge tax cut for himself and the other Billionaires like Musk and Thiel.

#128 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-11 08:30 PM | Reply

#126 | Posted by Robson at 2024-10-11 07:57 PM | Reply | Flag: MAGAts post and re-post 100% BS because they believe that everyone is as gullible and stupid as they are

#129 | Posted by Hans at 2024-10-11 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#120

By that logic NEITHER the President or Vice President are elected by the people. Tell us how are the electors chosen Laura, do they just pull people off the street?

Your attempt to own me only exposes how sensitive your hide is. Does anyone ever say that voters DON'T determine the presidency within the dictates of the Constitution? Nope, only drama queens like you living on a technicality.

If the state's voters don't give the ticket 270 electoral votes then Congress gets to choose. But to say voters don't elect the President and Vice President is silly.

But then so are you.

#130 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 08:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

She's awful. So fake. So vapid. Had primary voters chosen someone other than Trump she'd get smoked in this election.

#131 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-11 10:31 PM | Reply

She's awful. So fake. So vapid. Had primary voters chosen someone other than Trump she'd get smoked in this election.

#132 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-10-11 10:31 PM | Reply

Look everyone the lying pos trash person is begging for attention.

Just point at laugh.

#133 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-10-11 10:33 PM | Reply

So many bigoted or misogynous people may not vote for her, but Obama won, didn't he? You'd be saying the same things about him now if he were running for the first time.

I've never forgotten something that happened in the aftermath of the 2006 elections, when potential Democratic candidates were being discussed for the 2008 presidential nomination, the name of Barack Obama came up.

Mike Murphy, the Republican political consultant emphatically said out loud on MSNBC: "Americans are not going to elect someone named Barack HUSSEIN Obama to be President of the United States," putting the same audible sneering in his voice while saying "Hussein" as Trump continues to do on the stump every time the 44th President's name comes up.

Murphy has never lived that moment down that in hindsight made him look so foolish - and yes, ignorant - in the aftermath of Obama defeating Hillary in the primary and Murphy's employer, John McCain in the general, going on to win two terms in the Presidency.

#134 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-10-11 10:49 PM | Reply

- fake. vapid

Oh, look... Ballringer is projecting again.

A near perfect self description.

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2024-10-12 07:49 AM | Reply

Balldinger is here to remind us that GOP primary voters are dumb as rocks.

We know, dude.

#136 | Posted by anton at 2024-10-12 08:27 AM | Reply

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