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Wednesday, June 04, 2025

President Donald Trump's big bill making its way through Congress will cut taxes by $3.7 trillion but also increase deficits by $2.4 trillion over the next decade, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

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Two and a half trillion more in Deficits and 11 million people more without Health Ins?

All so Trump's billionaire donors can have a tax cut?

THANKS, Trumpers!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 11:59 AM | Reply

I guess there are no poor Republicans in the US, so this budget won't affect them in any way, shape, or form. Good for them.

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 12:03 PM | Reply

The budget office is projecting 10.9 million more people will be uninsured in 2034 because of changes to health care.

WINNING!!

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-04 12:09 PM | Reply

Those billionaire donors have to, at least, make back their campaign investments and it those aren't considered tax cuts by the rich; they're really ROI! They expect to recover every penny they invest in campaign bribes to come back to them in tax cuts.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 12:20 PM | Reply

The REAL Reason Republicans Want Medicaid Cuts

www.youtube.com

2 mins

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 12:22 PM | Reply

You can't spell "Fiscally Unsound and Irresponsible" without "Republicans"

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 12:25 PM | Reply

The budget office is projecting 10.9 million more people will be uninsured in 2034 because of changes to health care.

Only the wealthy are entitled to have health care.

- Joni Breadbags.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-06-04 12:30 PM | Reply

Well... at least my 401k will grow.

After decades of reckless government spending, now suddenly the answer is "let's crash Wall Street" just when I'm retiring?

Here's the hard reality. Millions of ordinary Americans rely on a strong stock market. Not the rich. Just regular people with modest 401k's and retirement savings.

Those who scoff at that usually don't have any skin in the game. No savings. No investments. Nothing to lose.

But for the rest of us, who spent our lives working and saving, Wall Street matters.

If Trump prioritizes the market, I won't apologize for being glad.

#8 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 12:32 PM | Reply

Over the years I've noticed a blindspot with many liberals.

They think there's only 2 social classes.

Poor and rich.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 12:35 PM | Reply

"Poor and rich."

Which kind do you think Trump thinks you are?

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 12:36 PM | Reply

"If Trump prioritizes the market, I won't apologize for being glad."

Trump's actions will cause increases in debt costs. Will you apologize for that?

Or, put another way, which Democrat will you blame for Trump's actions, when the economy goes south?

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The dollar's value has dropped 10% compared to the Euro since tariffs were announced.

Biden's fault, or Trump's?

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 12:39 PM | Reply

"After decades of reckless government spending, now suddenly the answer is "let's crash Wall Street" just when I'm retiring?"

^
But you must understand:
This is what you voted for.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 12:39 PM | Reply

Goofy,

I voted straight democrat ticket the last 20 years before Trump.

Spin that.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 12:42 PM | Reply

"I voted straight democrat ticket the last 20 years before Trump."

Easy spin.
Your 401K did better when Democrats were in the Oval Office.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The REAL Reason Republicans Want Medicaid Cuts"

No Repiblican posters here will watch because it might disturb their Fox News bubble that they are afraid to question because Fox News political and social straightjackets are required for membership in the cult; no questioning of Republican dogma will be tolerated and that isn't just a partisan swipe by me; I honestly know people in business; attorneys, sales people, anyone who wants to advance in cirporate America knows that questioning the cult leader's actions or ideas will result in ostracization by cult members which can hurt business significantly. In the good-old-boy-network that is just a reality of life!

#16 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 12:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dan,

"Trump's actions will cause increases in debt costs. Will you apologize for that?"

No...I'll be dead.

The hard cold reality is most people vote for who will benefit them the most.

No one's hands are clean.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 12:45 PM | Reply

"The MAGA Murder Budget is going to kill people."

drudge.com
1 min

But... maybe it won't Kill BillJ, so, what's the problem?

What's that you say, BJ... you're not your brother's keeper?

I've heard that somewhere before....

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 12:47 PM | Reply

"If Trump prioritizes the market, I won't apologize for being glad."

So when Trump cuts regulations enforcing clean water and clean air and healthy foods, and provides massive subsidies to coal and oil and gas and agribusiness, you won't apologize to future generations because it worked out well for you personally.

You are definitely voting for the Party that shares your Values, BillJohnson.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Snoofy,

"Your 401K did better when Democrats were in the Oval Office."

Bill Clinton rode the dot-com bubble.

Obama came in after a crash. Any market would bounced from that.

Biden benefited from the COVID recovery and trillions in stimulus.

Let's not pretend those gains most likely wouldn't have happened anyway.

Timing is everything.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 12:58 PM | Reply

"Let's not pretend those gains most likely wouldn't have happened anyway."

You're missing it.

Republican policies enrich the rich by robbing the poor.

Democrat policies enrich everyone, especially the rich, by policies that promote the generation of wealth.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 01:01 PM | Reply

I voted straight democrat ticket the last 20 years before Trump.
Spin that.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson

So you are telling us that you were first diagnosed with dementia around 2016?

#22 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-06-04 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"Trump Rages at Worsening Budget Bill Fiasco as Musk Admits It's a Scam

As Trump fumes at budget bill foes while Elon Musk exposes the bill's central sham, the author of a new piece on Musk explains how this fits into the 50-year GOP project of taking from the poor to enrich the wealthy."

newrepublic.com

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 01:02 PM | Reply

Well... at least my 401k will grow

Quintessential righty bulls^%*.

After years of being told it's the Dems who spend spend spend while the bigger spending of Repubs is ignored by righties, when we yet again have a Repub administration spending more than ever, idiot righty voters don't say "hey, this isn't what we voted for," they say "well, at least I'll benefit."

What an idiot.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-04 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Snoofy,

You post is kind of trollish.

Just grasping without a single original thought. Posting talking points.

I thought RFK has been putting in food safety regulations.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 01:08 PM | Reply

"Musk explains how this fits into the 50-year GOP project of taking from the poor to enrich the wealthy."

^
Ten years ago is when BillJohnson decided he's okay with that.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 01:09 PM | Reply

"Just grasping without a single original thought. Posting talking points."

Talking points?
They're campaign promises.
They're things Trump did in his first term.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 01:10 PM | Reply

"I thought RFK has been putting in food safety regulations."

There's lots of regulations impacting agriculture outside of FDA.

Like child labor. Child labor is good for your 401(K).

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 01:13 PM | Reply

"Timing is everything."

Lives in his Fox News Bubble thattells him that recoveries after Republicans crashed the economy were just coincidental and didn't result from more sensible budget policies by Democrats because questioning that GQP dogma would get him expelled from the cult.

Dis Bill Clinton balance the buget?

"Ask FactCheck
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton"

"Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?

A: Yes to both questions, whether you count Social Security or not."

www.factcheck.org

#29 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 01:14 PM | Reply

"Bill Clinton rode the dot-com bubble."

And telecom deregulation and banking deregulation.

Those were great for your 401k too. Until they weren't.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 01:17 PM | Reply

The deficit only matters to Republicans when they're not in office. Now the goal is, as Bill Johnson put it, let's worry about me today.

#31 | Posted by cbob at 2025-06-04 01:22 PM | Reply

Jpw,

If Kamala had won and run up the debt through new social programs, would you really care about fiscal responsibility? Doubt it.

I'm just telling the truth. People vote based on what helps them. Always have.

The U.S. is headed for a major market correction...maybe worse. A revolution isnt off the table either. And no, it won't be pretty.

I won't be around to see the worst of it. I didn't cause it. If the crash holds off a little longer, that suits me fine.

Like a game of hot potato, I just don't want to be the one holding it when it goes.

#32 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 01:24 PM | Reply

Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

Dick Cheneysaid that...

Another Republicl0wn preznit set on leaving office in disgrace... only twice this time.

What a bunch of stupid stupid stupid pigs.

#33 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-06-04 01:26 PM | Reply

Danni,

During Clinton's presidency, the house speaker Newt Gingrich and the republican controlled congress played a huge role in balancing thd budget.

That seems to be glossed over by liberals.

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 01:31 PM | Reply

Bill Clinton rode the dot-com bubble.
Obama came in after a crash. Any market would bounced from that.
Biden benefited from the COVID recovery and trillions in stimulus.
Let's not pretend those gains most likely wouldn't have happened anyway.
Timing is everything.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson

So Republicans crash the economy and don't get the blame.
And Democrats don't get credit for fixing it and providing many straight years of growth.
And now Trump is destroying it again after you proudly voted for him.

Good Job.

#35 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-04 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nice try, Bathhouse Bill. Every repug voted against the bill responsible for the Clinton surpluses.

en.wikipedia.org

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-04 01:34 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I voted for Reagan and didn't vote republican again until Trump.

I'm done posting for now. Stuff to do.

#37 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 01:40 PM | Reply

If Kamala had won and run up the debt through new social programs, would you really care about fiscal responsibility? Doubt it.

Well gee Bill, there's two things about that.

First, yes, I would have. I criticized her campaign trail promises of more programs. So try again.

Second, that's irrelevant anyway. All you're basically saying is your selfishness leads you to have zero consistency in ideals and scruples and you accuse everyone else of the same to avoid acknowledging it.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-04 01:40 PM | Reply

In any case Bill, congrats on being the problem and on blindly giving a pass to people who play you as a fool.

BTW this entire administration is a money grab. You really think your 401K isn't going to have a target on it at some point?

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-04 01:42 PM | Reply

"Now, people ask me all the time how we got four surplus budgets in a row. What new ideas did we bring to Washington? I always give a one-word answer: Arithmetic."

Former President Bill Clinton

#40 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-06-04 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

-The deficit only matters to Republicans when they're not in office.

when does it really matter to anybody?

for my entire life I've been listening to doomsday predictions about the consequences of the federal government engaging in massive deficit spending.

What's the doomsday scenario? calling in the loan? not being able to pay the interest?

we keep kicking this can down the road while our economy continues to move forward. And the government keeps doing what it does.

and we point fingers at each other for being part of the problem and acting like each one of them is facing a consequence for this.

what consequence?

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2025-06-04 01:58 PM | Reply

Jpw,

"In any case Bill, congrats on being the problem."

Well... Democrats have become the problem now as far as I'm concerned.

Money isn't the only thing that gets my vote.

While I agree with Democrats on some social issues, they lost their direction when identity politics took a front-row seat.

Attacking Christian businesses, mocking faith, and the sheer hostility I see from the left toward religion is what turned me away.

Fiscal issues come and go. But trying to reengineer society around a blasphemous, socially destructive ideology?

That's a line I won't cross.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Just grasping without a single original thought.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson

Bill, there are some people whose single original thoughts are often pretty horrifying.

I'd count you among them.

#43 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-06-04 02:10 PM | Reply

Attacking Christian businesses, mocking faith, and the sheer hostility I see from the left toward religion is what turned me away.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

Well Gosh, Bill, maybe if massive Christian organizations weren't spreading hate on everyone who isn't a white straight Christian nationalist, they might not get the hostility.

Maybe if massive Christian organizations weren't trying to force us all to be Christian and making Christian laws via their chosen lawmakers, they might not get the hostility.

Maybe if massive Christian organizations weren't taking in massive contributions to put their ministers in multimillion dollar homes with multiple personal jets and luxury cars while demonizing the poor and working class, they might not get hostility.

The Left follows the teachings of Jesus. The Christian Right doesn't.

#44 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-04 02:17 PM | Reply

- a blasphemous, socially destructive ideology?

His Lord God Trump approves of this message.

Blasphemy, being sacrilegious, would include terrorizing immigrants, lying out one's ---- cavity on a daily basis, aiding and abetting the rape and death in Ukraine, and selling out the People's economy and healthcare to Oligarch donors. Among other things.

Jesus wept.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 02:19 PM | Reply

The hard cold reality is most people vote for who will benefit them the most.

No one's hands are clean.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson

Sociopaths always assume everyone else is a sociopath too.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-04 02:22 PM | Reply

Attacking Christian businesses, mocking faith, and the sheer hostility I see from the left toward religion is what turned me away.

Fiscal issues come and go. But trying to reengineer society around a blasphemous, socially destructive ideology?

That's a line I won't cross.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

We don't mock faith. We mock supposedly religious people who ignore all the teachings of their religion to vote for the antichrist.

You'll cross a line to vote for fascists and con men but not to vote for a trans person who fights fascism.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-04 02:24 PM | Reply

Speak,

"We don't mock faith. We mock supposedly religious people who ignore all the teachings of their religion to vote for the antichrist."

So...you believe Trump is the Antichrist?

That's interesting because by saying that, you're also affirming that Jesus is the Son of God.

After all, there's no "Antichrist" without Christ.

You can't use Christian prophecy as a rhetorical weapon unless you believe the whole foundation it rests on.

#48 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:31 PM | Reply

Speak,

"Sociopaths always assume everyone else is a sociopath too."

Interesting take but your logic works both ways.

If you're projecting, what does that say about you?

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:33 PM | Reply

Jpw,
If Kamala had won and run up the debt through new social programs, would you really care about fiscal responsibility? Doubt it.
I'm just telling the truth. People vote based on what helps them. Always have.
The U.S. is headed for a major market correction...maybe worse. A revolution isnt off the table either. And no, it won't be pretty.
I won't be around to see the worst of it. I didn't cause it. If the crash holds off a little longer, that suits me fine.
Like a game of hot potato, I just don't want to be the one holding it when it goes.
#32 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 01:24 PM

So, Democrats fund the social programs and Republicans steal from them.

What helps fuel that process are "let's do nothing" voters while legislators enrich themselves.

Can you show a single instance of government fraud that DOGE has revealed?

#50 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 02:35 PM | Reply

The six aspects of the AntiChrist

A Man
A Citizen of a Western Nation
A Powerful Political Leader
A Spiritual Leader
A Murderer
A Deceiver

Trump checks more of those six boxes than he does of the Ten Commandments.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 02:36 PM | Reply

Sy,

"Force us all to be Christian"?

Who exactly is forcing you to believe Christian doctrine?

Disagreeing with you isn't force. Expressing my values isn't force.

Being offended by someone's faith doesn't mean they're trying to convert you.

#52 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:36 PM | Reply

Speak,
"Sociopaths always assume everyone else is a sociopath too."
Interesting take but your logic works both ways.
If you're projecting, what does that say about you?
#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:33 PM

You have a point.

Insanity already has a definition.

#53 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 02:37 PM | Reply

Dan,

My point is you're stating to every person reading this site tha you believe Jesus is the Son of God when you say you believe Trump is the antichrist.

You do see that?

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I voted for Reagan and didn't vote republican again until Trump."

So you had a momentary lapse into sanity but let's just think about what your vote for Reagan actually accomplished. His tax cuts for the rich became the basis for tax policy for every subsequent Republican President after him; including Trump. Clinton became the Clean-up crew for subsequent Democratic President; Paying down deficits Republicans had intentionally run up to justify drastic cuts to things like Medicaid and food assistance. Then Democrats return to power to raise taxes and balance the budget while restoring the parts of the "safety net" destroyed by Republicans. It happens over and over. Remember Geotge W. Bush's campaign when he talked about budget surplus as money owed to high income people which he claimed had been paying more than their share of taxes to justify his tax cuts for the rich. Then, along with too much deregulation of banks; allowing variable interest rate mortgages, which created the housing bubble and the subsequent collapse of the economy in 2007-08. Interesting that Trump has just recently said he planned to lower regulations on the banks again, after Obama increased regulations to insure their solvency which wasn't there in 2007-o8 and did result in bank failures which caused panic in the Bush adninistration and nearly an economic catastrophe to rival the great Republican Depression of 1929.
Sorry for the long post but this war about taxes is really a class war and if Republicans don't look back to 2007-08 and recognize that Trump is going to lead us right back there then we will all be paying for thr Trump Presidency long after he is out of office; as was the case following George W. Bush's foolishness both financially and with his stupid and unnecessary
wars which continued to cost American lives long after he left office!

#55 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 02:41 PM | Reply

Attacking Christian businesses, mocking faith, and the sheer hostility I see from the left toward religion is what turned me away.

Jesus wept.

How does any of the crap you post Glorify the Lord?

The "left" is hostile to the anti human behavior of some who profess to be Christians.

And when a "Christian" claims we are a Christian nation and that the separation of church and state is a lie and tries to place their beliefs above mine ... yes ... I and the 40% who are not Christians are deeply offended by your brand of Christian arrogance.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-04 02:42 PM | Reply

If Donald Jessica Trump isn't the Anti-Christ... he's his twin brother, as he fits ALL the dozens of scriptural descriptions perfectly.

antichrist45.com

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 02:44 PM | Reply

@#54 ... My point is you're stating to every person reading this site tha you believe Jesus is the Son of God when you say you believe Trump is the antichrist. ...

That looks more like your inference than his implication.

How do you know that every person reading this site will make that same inference?



#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-04 02:44 PM | Reply

Red,

You're close, but I think it works a little differently.

You can't fund socialism without capitalism.

Cash, trade, and privately held businesses have always been the engines.

Social programs don't replace capitalism. They depend on it.

It's been that way since the beginning.

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:45 PM | Reply

Re 54

Nice try. No that's complete BS (or perhaps wishful thinking).

I am not sure if he "believes" or not but Danforth was clearly just trying to talk to you with the words and the flowery Christian verbage that you might understand.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-04 02:47 PM | Reply

Social programs allow the rich to retain control.
What MAGAT ------- like you offer is a bloody revolution by the underclass.
Hope you're ready.

#61 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-04 02:48 PM | Reply

Sy,
"Force us all to be Christian"?
Who exactly is forcing you to believe Christian doctrine?
Disagreeing with you isn't force. Expressing my values isn't force.
Being offended by someone's faith doesn't mean they're trying to convert you.
#52 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:36 PM

If you have the time I recommend checking out the first episode of The Handmaid's Tale.

Post-plague, Christian fundamentalists seize military government control and rigorously enforce biblically-themed traumas on surviving Americans.

Similarly, the evangelicals respond to those authoritarian, dehumanizing passages without empathy or regret for the horrors depicted.

That is a cult of beliefs, not enlightenment.

#62 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 02:48 PM | Reply

Sy,

"Feed the poor" has always been the go-to card for liberals claiming moral high ground.

But Christianity isn't a single-issue faith. It also teaches about sin, repentance, personal accountability, sexual ethics, and reverence for God.

Funny how those parts get left out.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:49 PM | Reply

#14) The Antichrist is revealed by the falling away " 2 Thessalonians 2:3

A remarkable and yet often overlooked meaning behind this verse is that the "falling away" " or those that leave the faith " will be tied in with the revealing of the man of sin. In other words, these two events are related, as those who fall away from the faith will fall TOWARDS the man of sin.

Thus, it is the falling away that reveals the Antichrist, as we simply need to look at those who have fallen away from the faith and see WHO they are gravitating towards. It's not simply a falling away for the sake of leaving the faith, but a falling away FROM Jesus Christ and TOWARDS the Antichrist.

This is exactly what we've seen over the past few years with many Christians and their love affair with Trump. While Trump's vileness would have been repulsive in any other politician, strangely Christians not only embraced him, but started talking about him as if he was a man of God.

Even worse, some Christians now consider Trump as the savior of America, putting him on the same level as Jesus. But to those of us who are watching, their falling away from the faith helps us identify who the Antichrist is, as we simply need to observe WHO they are embracing instead of Jesus."

from the above link

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 02:49 PM | Reply

So...you believe Trump is the Antichrist?

That's interesting because by saying that, you're also affirming that Jesus is the Son of God.

After all, there's no "Antichrist" without Christ.

You can't use Christian prophecy as a rhetorical weapon unless you believe the whole foundation it rests on.

#48 | Posted by BillJohnson

If you believed the bible you'd think he is.
-THE BEAST, irrational, hateful, foul odor -From a new and future nation with the symbol of an EAGLE.....AMERICA -The lawless one, a criminal mastermind -Man of sin, breaks all the commandments -Speaks great things and insults many -Comes in his own representation/name -Casts truth to the ground, a pathological liar -Exalts himself above everyone, a malignant narcissist who will one day exalt himself above GOD -Persecutes people of the SOUTH -Deceives weak and fake Christians by pretending to be a Christian although he said he doesn't need forgiveness from God -Builder of towers, a real estate mogul -Has a stout look, is stubborn, wins at all costs -Seeks to change times and laws, ends democracy and the constitution -Makes treaty with Israel -Declares himself to be god -Rules the world -Makes all take his name/number 666 -Kills Jews, Christians and opposition -Is killed by the true God in the end

reformedjournal.com

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-04 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Red,

OMG...a tv show.

I don't turn to scripted drama for inspiration or the truth.

If that's your idea of political or religious insight, we're not even in the same orbit.

#66 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:54 PM | Reply

Speak,

Simply put...Trump is not well loved enough to be the antichrist, as is prophesied.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:56 PM | Reply

"Let's not pretend those gains most likely wouldn't have happened anyway."

You're joking, right?

Bill Clinton handed off true surplus budgets to Dubya and Cheney. Republicans handed off an economy in freefall, and on fire.

Obama handed off a stable economy with full employment to Trump. Trump handed off a COVID crisis and unemployment over 6%.

Biden handed off a record market, full employment, and an economy "the envy of the world", after bringing down inflation the furthest and fastest of any G7 country, post Covid.

Trump has purposely manipulated the markets to suck as much value out as possible, and your 401k is probably down.

Trump also wanted a 3rd stimulus 42% higher than Biden's, so inflation would've been WORSE under Trump.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 02:57 PM | Reply

#666 | Posted by BillJohnson

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 02:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Trump is not well loved enough to be the antichrist, as is prophesied.

Absolutely insane take. Evangelicals and others have sold out for Trump, and it's not even disputable.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"My point is you're stating to every person reading this site tha you believe Jesus is the Son of God when you say you believe Trump is the antichrist."

No, I'm saying if you believe in Christ and the Bible, you're a hypocrite if you don't also believe in the AntiChrist.

I'm also pointing out Trump checks all or most of the six boxes, while you can't name 3 Commandments Trump follows.

Trump checks more boxes on the "AntiChrist" list than he does on the "I Follow This Commandment" list.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:01 PM | Reply

Corky,

"Evangelicals and others have sold out for Trump, and it's not even disputable."

Evangelicals are one subgroup of society and not the whole world.

The antichrist, according to prophecy, will be adored across the board by all nations, all peoples.

Trump? He's nowhere near that. He's one of the most divisive figures alive.

So yes, it is disputable.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 03:06 PM | Reply

"You can't use Christian prophecy as a rhetorical weapon unless you believe the whole foundation it rests on."

That's absolute nonsense.

It's like saying I couldn't point out to a "strict Hindi" he just ordered a Porterhouse.

#73 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:08 PM | Reply

#47

Speak for yourself. I mock faith, because it's utterly ludicrous.

The antichrist stuff is amusing, but jesus ain't real.

#74 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-06-04 03:10 PM | Reply

Dan,

"You're a hypocrite if you don't also believe in the Antichrist."

I never said I didn't.

I just don't see the evidence...yet.

People have been predicting Jesus' return and the rise of the Antichrist for centuries.

So far, every single one has been wrong.

Don't quit your day job...just yet.

#75 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 03:10 PM | Reply

Dark,

"jesus ain't real"

Contrair, Pierre...

Historians overwhelmingly agree that Jesus was a real historical figure.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 03:13 PM | Reply

"The antichrist, according to prophecy, will be adored across the board by all nations, all peoples."

Enough to get him elected to a Presidency?

Or are you actually being disingenuous, saying the bar is someone NO ONE on Earth will oppose?

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:13 PM | Reply

Only absolute morons, trolls and bots support this insane tax cut for billionaires.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-04 03:15 PM | Reply

"I just don't see the evidence...yet."

Have you looked?

Please point out which of the six boxes Trump doesn't check.

And which of the Ten Commandment boxes he checks.

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:15 PM | Reply

Dan,

"It's like saying I couldn't point out to a "strict Hindi" he just ordered a Porterhouse."

Are you smokin' dope?

I bet you are.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 03:18 PM | Reply

It also teaches about sin, repentance, personal accountability, sexual ethics, and reverence for God.

All of which are just levers to exert control.

In any case, congrats on derailing the thread! I guess you felt compelled to ensure the rank hypocrisy of the right didn't stay front and center for long, huh?

#81 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-04 03:21 PM | Reply

HOAX!

-Shrimpbrain

#82 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-04 03:21 PM | Reply

"But Christianity isn't a single-issue faith. It also teaches about sin, repentance, personal accountability, sexual ethics, and reverence for God."

You Christians are feckless and clueless about what's actually in The Bible.

90% of what Jesus talked about is helping the poor and the disadvantaged.

You talk about growing your 401(K) on the suffering of the poor and the disadvantaged.

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 03:22 PM | Reply

The only use people have for Christianity is as a tool to control others.

It has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ. I doubt it ever did.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-04 03:24 PM | Reply

- will be adored across the board by all nations, all peoples.

Not exactly. But he will be by many, including the current signees of Trump's Abraham Accords, and those others who are expected to sign on over the coming months.

Speaks and I have both linked to separate sources on this thread denoting the many things BJ ignores while making a false claim about 'all' nations everywhere being deceived by him.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:25 PM | Reply

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#86 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 03:26 PM | Reply

#83 is NW

- I just don't see the evidence...yet.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

#87 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:27 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"90% of what Jesus talked about is helping the poor and the disadvantaged."

90%? That's just not true.

Jesus spoke on a wide range of topics...sin, repentance, salvation, hypocrisy, marriage, judgment, heaven and hell, and yes, caring for the poor.

Jesus said a lot about a lot of things. Personal accountability is a common theme.

You know...the stick in your eye thing...you've heard that before.

#88 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 03:29 PM | Reply

"you're stating to every person reading this site tha you believe Jesus is the Son of God when you say you believe Trump is the antichrist."

Don't be silly.

I believe Jesus's teachings are the best way to live life; the red print, to start. Beatitudes over Leviticus.

That said, I don't know if Jesus was the Son of God, or Divine. And frankly, that doesn't matter to me. I'm still going to live life based on Good beliefs.

I'm still going to be truthful. I'm still going to be faithful to my wife. I'm still going to feel I've got plenty of "stuff", no matter what my neighbors get or have. I'm still going to credit my parents for my upbringing. I'll continue being helpful, wherever I can. I don't keep a Sabbath, but believe in a higher power, and I thank God often, from every time in the kayak, to every time I spring up a flight of stairs.

Isn't embodying more important than pretending to?

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

- the teachings of Christ

Oddly, the wave of so-called Christians that have deified Trump, which is a mark of the AC, seems to have caused the actual Christians to go all, "WTF is that about!"... and many have started looking again at just what those teachings are in order to dispute this Cult Madness.

#90 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:32 PM | Reply

Red,
OMG...a tv show.
I don't turn to scripted drama for inspiration or the truth.
If that's your idea of political or religious insight, we're not even in the same orbit.
#66 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 02:54 PM

Okay. It is a dramatization and thought experiment. I find that reliance upon reality being suspended is ubiquitous with religion, so perhaps you could see how this parallel worldview has some exciting insight.

There is a theory that Moses would have led his people across the Sea of Reeds that recedes yearly, not the Red Sea which obviously cannot without an extreme climactic event such as an improbable tsunami.

"It may come as a surprise to many students of the Bible that in the original Hebrew text the body of water the Israelites crossed when leaving Egypt is called yam suph, "Sea of Reeds," not Red Sea (Ex 15:4, 22; Dt 11:4; Jos 2:10; 4:23; 24:6; Neh 9:9; Ps 106:7, 9, 33; 136:13, 15). Unfortunately, yam suph has been rendered "Red Sea" in nearly all of our translations, the Jerusalem Bible and the New Jewish Publication Society Hebrew Bible being notable exceptions.

The "Red Sea" phrase came into the account with the third century BC translation of the Old Testament into Greek. Called the Septuagint (abbreviated as LXX), its translators made yam suph ("Sea of Reeds") into eruthr thlass" ("Red Sea"). The Latin Vulgate followed their lead with mari Rubro ("Red Sea") and most English versions continued that tradition.

Unfortunately, "Red Sea" was not a translation at all, and the LXX translators understood that. While we do not know their reasoning, they gave yam suph a historicized interpretation, based on their understanding of the region at the time (Kitchen 2003: 262; Hoffmeier 1996: 206; 2005: 81). When the Bible indicated the Israelites crossed a significant body of water on Egypt's eastern border, the LXX translators connected it with the body of water they knew as the Red Sea. Instead of translating the Hebrew phrase literally, they offered this historical identification as their interpretation of the text."

[
New Evidence from Egypt on the Location of the Exodus Sea Crossing: Part I]

Does that make the prior authors subject to fictionalizing actual events? Why aren't you upset that you have been taught lies?

That is a cult of beliefs, not enlightenment.

#91 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"and yes, caring for the poor."

And you're voting for the folks doing the opposite of what Jesus said about caring for the poor.

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- 90%? That's just not true.

It was the major emphasis of both the Old Testament and the New.

Much of what Jesus said WAS new... whenever you read him say, "You've heard it said, but I say..." he was referring to what was changing from the OT; like faith rather than Laws.

But things like treating neighbors, immigrants, the poor, and strangers as well as you do yourself, or better, is basic in the OT.

The Jews were told not to ever forget their ------- as slaves in Egypt, and to treat all people as if they are God's children whether they are or not.

So, unlike Trumpers do in their fear of 'the other'.

#93 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Social programs don't replace capitalism They depend on it."

Democrats have never said differently but America has dicovered, the hard way, that unregulated capitalism is dangerous for the nation. in 1932 FDR saved capitalism with the New Deal by putting money in the pockets of those Americans who lost everything during the Great Depression; that caused them to buy goods manufactured by capitalistic which put them back in operation and peoople started depositing money again in regulated banks where depositors felt their money was safe again after the banking industry imploded during that depression and people had lost savings.
It could actually be said that social programs (The New Deal) saved capitalism.

#94 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

- I don't keep a Sabbath (day)

Jesus is now the Sabbath, and he is also now the Temple. SO... no problemo.

#95 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 03:44 PM | Reply

All this discussion of the Sabbath while the oligarchs are picking us blind landed me here: youtu.be

#96 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 04:00 PM | Reply

Herr Musk just called on Congress to KILL THE BILL!!

www.youtube.com

his post:

"Call you Senator
Call your Congressman

Bankrupting America is NOT ok!

KILL the BILL"

apparently he doesn't want to be blamed for what happens next

but I suspect his solution would be to cut more healthcare and keep his tax cut

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 04:03 PM | Reply

'KILL the BILL': Elon Musk continues to blast Trump's bill in barrage of social media posts

"We need a new bill that doesn't grow the deficit," Musk posted on X."

abcnews.go.com

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 04:05 PM | Reply

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is continuing to rail against the "big, beautiful bill," calling it "grotesque" and "immoral."

Said Johnson: "This is immoral, what us old farts doing to our young people ... I can't accept the scenario, I can't accept it, so I won't vote for it, unless we are serious about fixing it."

Link: www.cnbc.com

#99 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 04:17 PM | Reply

Pretty funny really which Trumpublicans are calling for more cuts to 'spending', which excludes our biggest expenses like the Military and the Banks (how about an interest rate 'tariff' on Banks?) and they really ONLY mean Healthcare, people like Rand Paul and others .... and which are calling for NOT cutting Healthcare like Hawley, who would likely lose his seat if that happens.

And they will prolly do this all summer. Like a other entertainment TV shows do.

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 04:46 PM | Reply

Elon is leveraging X, the platform he used to help get Trump elected, to take down this Big Bad Bill with multiple posts:

www.youtube.com

#101 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 04:54 PM | Reply

Corky,

Again, Jesus spoke at length about personal accountability.

He wasn't calling on the government to provide for people. He was speaking to individuals.

The Bible doesn't assign government the role of providing for people in the way modern welfare states do.

Charity, care for the poor, and compassion are framed as personal moral responsibilities

So let me ask. Can I assume you personally help your neighbor, the poor, or strangers since you feel yourself entitled and qualified to judge other people?

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 04:58 PM | Reply

"He wasn't calling on the government to provide for people. He was speaking to individuals."

He called for people to provide for the government -- render unto Caesar -- and it seems reaonsable to believe the reason is because that is supposed to be a reciprocal relationship.

The concept is fleshed out in the "What have the Romans ever done for us?" sketch in Life of Brian.

Jews got a lot for their taxes to Caesar, and you're a fool to deny it.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-04 05:02 PM | Reply

Danni,

I completely agree unregulated capitalism is dangerous and would destroy the fabric of society.

But so will socialism without constraints which is exactly what it's becoming today.

It helps democratic leaders stay in power by keeping the people they're supposed to be helping weak and dependent.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 05:13 PM | Reply

unregulated capitalism has already destroyed our society imho.

#105 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-04 05:16 PM | Reply

Elon Musk BEGS Republicans to KILL THE BILL!

The Lincoln Project

www.youtube.com

THIS is the inside story of Republicans bringing Musk into their inner circle for his money, the Richest Dupe in the World... and then they got rid of him.

Must see TV.

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 05:20 PM | Reply

- So let me ask.

Not this again. Try to not to obfuscate, BJ, you really aren't very good at it.

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 05:22 PM | Reply

#105: unregulated capitalism has already destroyed our society ...

This is the "social murder" described by Friedrich Engels in 1845. Dickensian and dystopian, all at once.

#108 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 05:28 PM | Reply

Alex,

"unregulated capitalism has already destroyed our society imho."

That's not saying much for socialism if it's supposed to be offsetting the shortcomings of capitalism.

It must not be an effective solution.

Maybe it's time to burn down the house and build something a new solution out of the ashes.

#109 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 05:28 PM | Reply

Danni,
I completely agree unregulated capitalism is dangerous and would destroy the fabric of society.
But so will socialism without constraints which is exactly what it's becoming today.
It helps democratic leaders stay in power by keeping the people they're supposed to be helping weak and dependent.
#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 05:13 PM

THIS 3.7 TRILLION THEFT IS THE UNREGULATED CAPITALISM DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY.

#110 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 05:28 PM | Reply

BillJohnson:

Can you show a single instance of government fraud that DOGE has revealed?

#111 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 05:32 PM | Reply

Red,

"THIS 3.7 TRILLION THEFT IS THE UNREGULATED CAPITALISM DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY."

Sounds to me democrats have a job to do if they can stop worrying about pronouns.

#112 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 05:33 PM | Reply

"Republicans who are saying "Well I
didn't read the
bill."

And whether Marjorie Taylor Green
didn't or couldn't read the bill is an
open question

but now there are
fractures inside the House about what
comes back from the Senate"

- Rick Wilson, Lincoln Project from the above link

#113 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 05:37 PM | Reply

"Maybe it's time to burn down the house"

Let's get the poor people out first, shall we?

#114 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 05:41 PM | Reply

"Are you smokin' dope?"

No, but I'm clearly conversing with one.

#115 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 05:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Red,
"THIS 3.7 TRILLION THEFT IS THE UNREGULATED CAPITALISM DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY."
Sounds to me democrats have a job to do if they can stop worrying about pronouns.
#112 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 05:33 PM

I proposed these questions to Boaz in another thread, but they might be relevant here:

How does MAGA determine that DEI is a problem and not a benefit?

Why do Republicans consider all social safety nets as Marxism?

Do the hundreds of years of segregation and enslavement represent the better society to you?

40 "The King will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

41 "Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44 "They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45 "He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

#116 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 05:42 PM | Reply

"Musk though has now gone to
war with Mike Johnson and the
Republicans in the House

and if Donald
Trump doesn't carefully manage it he'll
go to war with him too because while
everything Trump touches
dies

I mean I guess the rule with Elon
would be like everything either blows up
or gets pregnant

it doesn't really quite
have the same ring but everything Trump
touches dies never fails"

- Rick Wilson

#117 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 05:52 PM | Reply

Herr Musk should found the Independent White Nazi Party and finance his 2025 Presidential bid for after the summer. He could invest maybe 15 or 20 percent of his net worth using his own social media platform.

(Just kidding, I hope.)

#118 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 05:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

2028, duh

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-04 06:02 PM | Reply

Force us all to be Christian"?
Who exactly is forcing you to believe Christian doctrine?
Disagreeing with you isn't force. Expressing my values isn't force.

You might wish to check that with your brethren who are right now forcing their beliefs and values onto women they do not even know. Women who want nothing to do with it and are only concerned about managing their own health.

Where is my statue of the Buddha? Where are the 4 Noble Truths as revealed by the Buddha? They should be right there next to the ten commandments
wherever Christians are demanding the ten commandments be unconstitutionally installed.

Personally, like the Founding Fathers, I could care less about your religion and whether you disagree with me ... as long it does not "pick my pockets nor break my bones".

But my pockets are being picked and "bones" are definitely getting broken.

#120 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-04 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump rolled up massive deficits during his first term after Obama got them back down to $500 billion a year following the previous unitary Republican government under Bush.

Are these figures just on top of the huge deficits we can expect from Trump?

#121 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-06-04 06:09 PM | Reply

Any federal employee using their position to preach about Jesus in violation of the 1st Amendment.

Like Senator Joni Ernst right here.

m.youtube.com

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits government, including government employees, from establishing or endorsing any religion, including using their official position to preach or proselytize. This principle of separation of church and state is a cornerstone of American law.

#122 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-04 06:14 PM | Reply

Re 122

Oops wrong link. They cut off the end of that one where she clearly violates the 1st Amendment.

Here is the full video of Joni Ernst violating the 1st Amendment while whistling past a graveyard.

A very surreal and creepy video.

m.youtube.com

#123 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-04 06:21 PM | Reply

BillJohnson,

Fundamentalists are most definitely the least educated on other religions, languages and cultures, not just sciences and social standards.

There is a reason the elite were educated in Latin, Greek and Hebrew.

Without that comparative knowledge you are left to only read one history and some else's translation.

The bible was originally only read by priests in Latin and not while facing the congregation.

Women were not allowed to join.

Kids and singing forbidden.

3.7 trillion dollars is being stolen and you are gentled as a lamb.

#124 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 06:54 PM | Reply

Red,

That post is misleading because it's built on facts taken out of context, sweeping generalizations, and condescension masquerading as wit.

#125 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 07:59 PM | Reply

" That post is misleading because it's built on facts taken out of context, sweeping generalizations, and condescension masquerading as wit."

What a riot. Are you arguing with his methods, or his conclusion? If anything, the $3.7 Trillion is TOO LOW.

Republicans, as usual, aren't adding the interest costs, bringing the increased deficits closer to $4.5 Trillion, with over half for tax cuts to the world's wealthiest 1%.

Worth starving the world's poorest children, amirite? Worth slashing Medicaid so lots of rural hospitals close, agreed?

#126 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-04 08:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"Are you arguing with his methods, or his conclusion?"

Which of Red's meandering thoughts are you referring to?

#127 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 08:55 PM | Reply

No MAGAt from now until the end of eternity can ever whine again about "Democrats" and the national deficit. Hypocritical bastards!

#128 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-06-04 09:03 PM | Reply

The antichrist, according to prophecy, will be adored across the board by all nations, all peoples.

Trump? He's nowhere near that. He's one of the most divisive figures alive.

So yes, it is disputable.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson

He's beloved by the fascists in every nation.

#129 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-05 12:18 AM | Reply

Red,
That post is misleading because it's built on facts taken out of context, sweeping generalizations, and condescension masquerading as wit.
#125 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 07:59 PM

There's no masquerade, it's precisely as described. Cloaking wit - activate! Form of historic context! Shape of no memory of historic context!

This is the most massive sum ever extracted from the poorest to be hoarded by the most excessively wealthy who have ever existed! Exciting to see a little history repeating.

#130 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-05 12:27 AM | Reply

"This is the most massive sum ever extracted from the poorest to be hoarded by the most excessively wealthy who have ever existed!"

Bill Johnson doesn't deny that.
Because he thinks they earned it.

#131 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 06:45 AM | Reply

"Much of what Jesus said WAS new... whenever you read him say, "You've heard it said, but I say..." he was referring to what was changing from the OT; like faith rather than Laws."

It's like there were two different gods. One Old Testament God full of wrath and human prejudices and lots of fury.

And then there is the God of Love.

Choose wisely!

#132 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-05 12:49 PM | Reply

Sy,
"Force us all to be Christian"?
Who exactly is forcing you to believe Christian doctrine?
Disagreeing with you isn't force. Expressing my values isn't force.
Being offended by someone's faith doesn't mean they're trying to convert you.

#52 | Posted by BillJohnson

Well let's see, Bill.

We are putting the Ten Commandments in schools.
We are using tax payer dollars to fund Christian schools.
We are demonizing and deporting non-Christians.
We are passing laws based on Christian values and teachings. Abortion is just one of those laws.
Republican lawmakers insist we are a Christian nation.
Hell, we even have In God We Trust on our money.

And that's just the government. We aren't even talking about private citizens and churches yet.

#133 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-05 12:51 PM | Reply

I do not remember many here speaking out about this:

AI Overview
Learn more
Determining the exact amount the Biden administration has added to the deficit is complex and subject to varying interpretations and calculations. However, here's a breakdown of the key information from the search results:
Estimated Increase in Debt/Deficit:
Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) estimates: $4.7 trillion in new ten-year debt approved through legislation and executive actions from January 2021 through January 2025. This figure includes $6.6 trillion in deficit-increasing actions and $1.9 trillion in deficit-reducing actions.
Alternative estimates:
One source claims the Biden administration has increased the federal deficit by $11.6 trillion through July 2024, including $4.8 trillion in enacted legislation, $4.8 trillion in higher interest costs, and $2 trillion from executive actions.
Another source states the national debt under Biden increased by over $8.4 trillion during his four years in office (January 2021 to January 2025).
Some sources cite a $1.8 trillion deficit in FY 2024, which is double the projection when Biden took office.

#134 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-06-05 02:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I do not remember many here speaking out about this:

#134 | Posted by MSgt

I don't remember biden campaigning on cutting spending and reducing the deficit like republicans do.

I remember him campaigning on investing in infrastraucture, which republicans call SPENDING, even though it eventually turns into profit.

#135 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-06-05 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#89 | Posted by Danforth

BillJohnson ain't havin' that crap.

#136 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-06-05 09:12 PM | Reply

Billy boy is a ------- idiot

#137 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-05 09:43 PM | Reply

Another POTUS, another partisan article about how everything he is doing will increase the debt. Yet, every new POTUS term, the debt increases. Both parties need to shut up until they can show evidence they decreased debt. I did a simple search and took a minute to scroll down to find the last time debt decreased and I didn't see one for the last 50 years. I may have missed a year or two but nothing stood out. In other words, this cookie-cutter article that both parties use every single time the POTUS isn't of their party is useless...and kind of stupid.

www.investopedia.com

#138 | Posted by humtake at 2025-06-06 11:47 AM | Reply

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