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The Epstein files " and calls for AG Pam Bondi to be fired " dominated a conservative conference in Tampa this weekend.[image or embed]

— NBC News (@nbcnews.com) Jul 13, 2025 at 8:17 AM

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#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-13 05:40 PM | Reply

It's so weird that now people care about Epstein.
Now? After you re-elected the guy who got convicted of rape after his first term?
Now you care?

Also, this is entirely of Trump's own making, as best I can tell.
Unless Sleepy Joe somehow set this up to happen... LOL
"Trump Gets Ratio'd on Truth Social"
www.newsweek.com

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 05:57 PM | Reply

MAGA is starting suspect that Trump is not innocent. Let's see what rationalization they can pull out of their hats to make this go away. Not sure there is one.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-13 06:11 PM | Reply

The only thing MAGA people know is OUTRAGE!
They could well turn on Trump.
What we need now is a good LEAKED PEE PEE TAPE. :) :) :)

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 06:27 PM | Reply

Interesting Strategy

1) Use the Epstein files to attack political opponents.

2) State you will release the Epstein files once elected.

3) Tell America it's stilling in your desk.

4) Tell America the Epstein files don't exist.

5) Demand Americans shut up about Epstein.

6) Claim the Epstein files were written by Hilary and Obama.

Deplorable Trumping MAGAts will believe Trump.

It's how cults work.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-13 06:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

BREAKING: Trump says he'll release the Epstein files if he's elected to a third term in 2028
genesiustimes.com

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 06:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

@#5 ... Deplorable Trumping MAGAts will believe Trump. ...

There does seem to be some push back. But will it last?

Trump Gets 'Ratioed' on Truth Social for First Time Amid Epstein Backlash
www.newsweek.com

... President Donald Trump's weekend post defending Attorney General Pam Bondi's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files has triggered an unprecedented backlash, marking the first time the Republican has been "ratioed" on his own social media platform, Truth Social.

The term "ratioed" refers to when a social media post receives more replies than likes or shares, often signaling more disagreement or criticism than support.

In his Saturday evening post, Trump lashed out at those criticizing Bondi, calling her performance "FANTASTIC" and dismissing the ongoing interest in Epstein as a waste of time.

"We're on one Team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening," the president wrote. "Let's not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about."

The post -- lengthy, defensive, and directed at his own base -- appears to have backfired.

According to public engagement data archived from Truth Social, the post has garnered more than 36,000 replies, compared with nearly 11,000 re-truths (the platform's term for shares) and 32,000 likes as of 10:45 a.m. ET Sunday.

Why It Matters

The backlash on Truth Social reflects growing internal division among MAGA supporters, many of whom have spent months anticipating revelations from the so-called "Epstein Files." ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-13 07:03 PM | Reply

"There is a lot that remains hidden. But there are some things we know.

Epstein installed hidden cameras in his opulent residences and on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James, to capture his high-powered friends engaging in sexual romps and abuse of teenage and underage girls and boys.

The recordings were blackmail gold. Were they part of an intelligence operation on behalf of the Israeli Mossad? Or were they used to ensure that Epstein had a steady source of investors who funneled him millions of dollars to avoid being outed? Or were they used for both?

He shuttled underage girls between New York and Palm Beach on his private jet the Lolita Express, which was allegedly outfitted with a bed for group sex. His coterie of famous friends, including Clinton and Trump, are recorded as traveling on the jet numerous times on released flight logs, although many other flight logs have disappeared.

Epstein's videos are in the vaults of the FBI, along with detailed evidence that would rip back the veil on the sexual proclivities and callousness of the powerful.

I doubt there is a client list, as Attorney General Pam Bondi claims. There is also no single Epstein file. The investigative material amassed on Epstein fills many, many boxes, which would bury Bondi's desk and probably, if collected in one room, dominate most of the space in her office."

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chrishedges.substack.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-13 07:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Seriously.

He said "Epstein" half a dozen times while telling everyone to stop talking about Epstein.

Just release the files as promised.
10:36 PM Jul 12, 2025

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-13 07:10 PM | Reply

Team Trump stepped into a massive pile of manure of their own creation with this.

They deserve everything they get.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-13 07:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#8

Interesting ...

Jeffrey Epstein's brother laughs at 'stupid' FBI memo defending controversial suicide ruling: report
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-brother-laughs-stupid-fbi-memo-defending-controversial- suicide-ruling-report

... Jeffrey Epstein's brother is ripping federal investigators as "stupid" for a recent memo stating no additional evidence would be released and that his brother's death in federal custody was indeed a suicide.

Mark Epstein, 70, has long disputed the official finding that his brother killed himself.

He told Fox News Digital that when he hounded New York officials for answers, they didn't even provide him with the 911 call reporting his brother's death at a federal jail in Manhattan.

He said his brother was looking forward to a bail hearing at the time of his death and that autopsy findings were inconsistent with suicide. ...



Senate committee unanimously approves amendment that would preserve Jeffrey Epstein files
www.scrippsnews.com

So, will Pres Trump have certain files destroyed before that bill is passed and signed by him?


So, far, he seems to be happy with AG Bondi taking the flak for what he has likely told her to do and say.


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-13 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's so effin funny when I read scree like this.

Remember when Trumpanzee accused Obama of being Kenyan and there was some sort of Muslim master plan hatched back in 1961 to put him in office? They were accusing him or someone surrounding his birth of putting him in the Oval Office... as president... to do an Islamic takeover... ----... Trumpanzee still calls him by his middle name to evoke the narrative of that conspiracy.

Seriously... back in 1961 someone saw into the future... and he accused us of having a Christ complex when he was the one insisting Obama had magical psychic powers or something.... smh...

Hillary couldn't be trusted with an email server and drive bleaching and yet she pulled this off???? fer reals???

Obama isn't president and Hillary and in spite of her winning the popular vote... lost like every other woman presidential contender... Biden was too senile... soooooooooooooooooo

#12 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-13 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What, No Sasha or Malia?

#13 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-07-13 07:29 PM | Reply

Oh and one more thing about Hillary... and Bill's possible association with Epstein... or being on his list?

Hillary was dragged right along with Monica and Bill through that scandal... pig Brain Trumpanzee brought Bill's dalliances to their first debate... which she still won.

I think Bill and Hill can weather whatever storm.

I know everyone thinks Trumpanzee is a pedophile... but I'm not so sure... my guess is his leanings have more to do with what went on with the Russian tapes...

scat H2O sports... degradation sex

#14 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-13 07:32 PM | Reply

So the incoherent story is that Trump was friends with Epstein for 15 years.
But he barely knows him.
And Bondi had the Epstein file on her desk.
Then it didn't exist.
Now it exists but Democrats made it up to hurt him.

What a crock. Trump will say anything

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Team Trump stepped into a massive pile of manure of their own creation with this.
They deserve everything they get.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger

But as for you, you still support Trump, and you've known for years he visited Lolita Island many times.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

I know everyone thinks Trumpanzee is a pedophile... but I'm not so sure...

I am. He's a pedo. He bragged about walking in on teenage girls undressing at his pageants. Gross.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They deserve everything they get.
#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Like your vote?

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is also quoted asking if its bad that he's more sexually attracted to his underage daughter than his (then) wife.

You pukes knew what you were voting for.

#19 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I know everyone thinks Trumpanzee is a pedophile... but I'm not so sure"

Trump doesn't have ready access to young children.
He does have access to teenagers and young adults.
abcnews.go.com

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 07:38 PM | Reply

Sorry, forgot the link title above:
List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct
abcnews.go.com

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 07:39 PM | Reply

Trump brags about grabbing pu**y and claims he can't control himself.

I'm sure he keeps it age appropriate ...

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-13 07:40 PM | Reply

Attorney: Epstein's black book and secret tapes hold powerful names
www.wpbf.com

... Victims' lawyer Spencer Kuvin says there's no "client list," but phone records and thousands of hours of surveillance video could expose high-profile men still shielded from public view.

As the administration insists there's nothing left to reveal in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, a Florida attorney who has represented Epstein's victims since 2007 says otherwise.

"I know firsthand they haven't disclosed everything," said Spencer Kuvin, Esq., Goldlaw's chief legal officer. "I can tell you that with 100 percent certainty that not everything has been disclosed."

Kuvin said there's no so-called "client list" of people who used Epstein to set up meetings with underage girls. But he says there was something else.

"So, is there a 'list' of these people? No, it doesn't exist. There's no list, but there's a phonebook," Kuvin said. "And Epstein knew who he knew, and so did (Ghislaine) Maxwell. So when these high-profile individuals would make the call because they happened to be in town for the winter and say, Hey, I need somebody today,' then Maxwell would round up the girls and send someone over."

Kuvin added that his clients shared names of some of those so-called customers " names that remain hidden because of attorney-client privilege and non-disclosure agreements signed as part of their settlements.

"I'm aware because of the work that I did on the cases of numerous high-profile individuals, which I am unfortunately not allowed to disclose, that exist that were utilizing the services of Epstein and Maxwell to obtain girls while they were on the island," he said.

Thousands of hours of videotapes unreleased

Kuvin said even more evidence remains unseen -- videotapes taken from multiple surveillance cameras inside Epstein's homes.

"There are thousands of hours of videotapes taken from inside the homes of Jeffrey Epstein that have, I have no doubt, video of people on them," Kuvin said. "People that have never been named before. Never identified before. Let's see the tapes." ...



#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-13 07:40 PM | Reply

He bragged about walking in on teenage girls undressing at his pageants. Gross.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 07:34 PM | Reply | Flag: MEH

I'm not making light of that and it was a pervy thing to do... but when I think of pedophiles... I think pre-puperty girls.
Pageants are all about exploitation... don't count on the innocence of the contestants.

Obama had the most scandal-free presidency in our history.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-13 07:43 PM | Reply

"but when I think of pedophiles... I think pre-puperty girls."

^
JonBenet.
Not quite the same thing as, uh, a breeding age female with breasts and pubic hair.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 07:47 PM | Reply

Pageants are all about exploitation... don't count on the innocence of the contestants.

Those ----- deserved to be raped?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-13 07:53 PM | Reply

They deserve everything they get.

#10 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That's hilarious. Coming from you.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-13 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

In JonBenet's case, I would argue the parents are the true "contestants;" they are simply proxying their pathology through their own defenseless child.

I'm not saying JonBenet deserved to be murdered.
I'm saying there are men who would be more inclined to murder JonBenet when she's dressed like a tramp.
Much like there are men who are more inclined to murder women who are prostitutes, compared to any other profession.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-13 08:00 PM | Reply

They deserve everything they get.
#10 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER
That's hilarious. Coming from you.

Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-13 07:59 PM | Reply

Isn't it though??

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-13 08:05 PM | Reply

#27

Some MAGAs are burning their Red Caps in their BBQ on YT... Heffy is having his Traitor Trump Cap bronzed.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-13 08:06 PM | Reply

BBQ pits

(who edits these things?)

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-13 08:07 PM | Reply

Those ----- deserved to be raped?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-13 07:53 PM | Reply | Flag:HEAVY SIGH

No I didn't say that... and when I wrote it... I wasn't sure how to clarify. I just know pageant parents often pimp their daughters off... It's show biz.

#32 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-13 08:27 PM | Reply

Also Clownshack... we were talking about him walking into the dressing room and bragging about seeing them nekkid...

Honestly... that is a very commonplace activity among male pageant officials. It's a very exploitative business. Not just him. So get mad at everybody involved.

It's all about everybody staring at the nubiles...

#33 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-07-13 08:33 PM | Reply

The only thing MAGA people know is OUTRAGE!
They could well turn on Trump.
What we need now is a good LEAKED PEE PEE TAPE. :) :) :)

#4 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

There is no pee tape, but there is a strong rumor of Trump getting his Orange face covered with "3", with Putin supplying the "3". Supposedly happened in Helsinki in 2018.

#34 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-07-13 08:35 PM | Reply

Trump was stupid enough to brag about it.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-13 09:01 PM | Reply

@#35 ... Trump was stupid enough to brag about it. ...

Oh, there seem to be so many incidents that Pres Trump may have been stupid to brag about.


My guess is this this one is not the first, nor the last.

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-13 09:52 PM | Reply

How do brainwashed idiots rationalize their universe once they realize their cult leader really is as disgusting and sexually twisted as everyone else (including the cult leader himself) has been telling them all along?

#37 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-07-13 10:33 PM | Reply

@#37 ... How do brainwashed idiots rationalize their universe once they realize their cult leader really is as disgusting and sexually twisted as everyone else (including the cult leader himself) has been telling them all along? ...

Stay tuned.

My guess is along the lines that this particular issue is not over, despite Pres Trump's significant efforts to diminish and put it behind him.

I mean, Pres Trump got "ratioed" on Truth Social.

Wow, that is significant.

So yeah, stay tuned.





#38 | Posted by lamplighter at 2025-07-13 11:33 PM | Reply

@#38 ... I mean, Pres Trump got "ratioed" on Truth Social....

OK, I posted this link a number of hours ago ...

Trump Gets 'Ratioed' on Truth Social for First Time Amid Epstein Backlash
www.newsweek.com

Read it. I won't quote it again ...

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-13 11:58 PM | Reply

"They deserve everything they get."

You worship this child ------ Bellringer. Congrats, you voted for this.

#40 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-07-14 01:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#37 ... How do brainwashed idiots rationalize their universe once they realize their cult leader really is as disgusting and sexually twisted as everyone else (including the cult leader himself) has been telling them all along? ...

I wish I knew.

How long will this last?


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-14 05:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Team Trump stepped into a massive pile of manure of their own creation with this.

They deserve everything they get.

#10 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

If you were honest about how and why they created that massive pile and manure then you would have an accurate picture of what a crazy monster Donald Trump is and has always been.

But you're a fanatic and a True Believer. It is not possible for you to go there. Not possible for you to see your personal contribution to the manure.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-14 10:27 AM | Reply

Team Trump stepped into a massive pile of manure of their own creation with this.
They deserve everything they get.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Jeff always says crap like this and then votes for them anyway.

#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-07-14 10:57 AM | Reply

y'all stupid f*&^ MAGA morons got played again.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 11:13 AM | Reply

They deserve everything they get.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

You'll forget all about it in a few days.

#45 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-07-14 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What a crock. Trump will say anything

#15 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Worse, the maga idiots will believe everything he says.

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-14 01:41 PM | Reply

Yes, the Joe Biden autopen was used to write the Epstein files. Who knew?

#47 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-14 01:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You people are crazy. I've been ripping Trump and Bondi over this and you are all ... . angered by me for doing so.

Make it make sense.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 02:39 PM | Reply

"I've been ripping Trump and Bondi over this"

Over the mishandling of Trump's friendship with Epstein.

Not over the fact that Trump was a frequent flyer on Epstein's Lolita Express.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 02:52 PM | Reply

" given how hard Democrats tried to put Trump in jail"

Don't be a putz.

Trump's ACTIONS were what was almost putting him in jail. Not a drop of Lawfare.

After all this time, you still can't point to ONE violation Trump was charged with, which you or I could do without fear of legal repercussions.

NOT ONE.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-07-14 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Make it make sense.

#48 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

People think you have no values.

You asked.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-14 02:55 PM | Reply

Make it make sense.

#48 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Anger? No. Incredulity? Yes.

Iand it makes perfect sense when one recognizes YOU for what YOU are.

A lying puling hypocrite.

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-14 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hahaha, the Clintons and Obama wrote the Epstein files ... .hahahahahahhahahahhaa

hahahahahahahhahaahahahaha

#53 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-07-14 03:03 PM | Reply

#49: "All aboard the Lolita Express! Please fasten your seat belts and do not disrobe until we are at cruising altitude."

assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com

www.theguardian.com

#54 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-14 03:11 PM | Reply

Donald Trump's ham-fisted reversal on his promise to release a secret list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients, and the revolt it has sparked among the MAGA faithful, has pulled off something long considered impossible by virtually everybody, including Trump himself: He has finally underestimated his followers' intelligence."

"The president reversed himself on a matter so crucial to his base, and offered an excuse so flimsy, that it raised questions within perhaps the most gullible movement in American history."


~ Jonathan Chait ~

www.theatlantic.com

#55 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-14 03:25 PM | Reply

Repugs Block Ghislaine Testimony-What Is Trump Hiding?

www.drudgereport.com

#56 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-14 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Make it make sense.

While we're at it, can someone explain which crimes get you deported and which ones get you elected president?

Thanks in advance.

#57 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-07-14 04:00 PM | Reply

puling hypocrite.

Free Tadow!

#58 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-07-14 04:02 PM | Reply

#56: Pro-Russia MAGA Republicans wanted to suppress the Russia probes and SC Robert Mueller's report, as they would expose Russian intelligence and organized crime connections to Dummkopf Trumpf. Now Republicans (and probably AIPAC Democrats) want to suppress any testimony from Ghislaine Maxwell that might expose an Israeli intelligence (the Mossad) connection to Trumpf.

Note that Israeli organized crime was connected to Sammy "the Bull" Gravano, who was convicted in the SDNY by Robert Mueller.

Link:

en.wikipedia.org

#59 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-14 04:23 PM | Reply

That's Tadowe aka Thomas A Dowe.

#60 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-14 05:03 PM | Reply

" POSTED BY BELLRINGER

People think you have no values.

You asked.

#51 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-07-14 02:55 PM | FLAG: "

Of course I have values. A rapidly growing subset of the left (typified by most of the lefties on this site) is incredibly closed and hive minded. Cannot possibly entertain the notion of principled disagreement. And these are the ones who frequently and hilariously accuse their perceived foes as being in a cult.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 05:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

You have no principles Jeff

Every one around here knows that

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-14 05:58 PM | Reply

principled disagreement

You lie constantly. You have no principles.

#63 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 05:58 PM | Reply

You stand for nothing beyond your team winning jeff. Which is why you fall for every lie they tell you.

Because you want to.

#64 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 06:00 PM | Reply

Of course I have values.

#61 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I've interacted with for a long time and I don't know what your values are.

I've interacted with MAGA for a long time and I really don't know what it's values are.

Except it includes no values that they would have bragged about ten years ago.

Donald Trump has no values. To the extent you support him you prove your own lack of worth.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-14 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...perhaps the most gullible movement in American history.

LOL. That's a pretty good line.

#66 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-14 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MAGA Values = Making anyone left of them upset no matter the cost. "Winning".

#67 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 06:05 PM | Reply

The problem with BullBringer is he loves to troll and a lot of times he blindly parrots Republican propaganda.

Especially when it came to the J6 trials or when it comes to all things Trump.

So, when he does try to be earnest, it comes off as insincere.

A lot of Trump supporters seem to actually be upset about the Epstein situation.

But it's not going to change anything. They're still going to vote for republicans and Trump in every future election.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-14 06:06 PM | Reply

Hey JeffJ,
Did Trump visit Epstein Island?
Is it likely Trump raped teenage girls there?

The reason you don't have an answer is because of your "values."

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 06:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump states that the Epstein files were written by people like Obama.

Does any MAGA want to commit to:

A) He's telling the truth?

b) He's lying?

#70 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-14 06:44 PM | Reply

Personal attacks are all many of you have.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 06:50 PM | Reply

Personal attacks are all many of you have.

#71 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Respond to my #70.

Another values test.

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-14 06:52 PM | Reply

Doe 174 begged Charlie Kirk to stop talking about Epstein. Talk about desperation.

www.the-independent.com

#73 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-07-14 07:47 PM | Reply

Personal attacks are all many of you have.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger

You're in the cult of epstein's rape buddy. You've earned every personal attack.

#74 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-14 07:47 PM | Reply

Of course I have values. A rapidly growing subset of the left (typified by most of the lefties on this site) is incredibly closed and hive minded. Cannot possibly entertain the notion of principled disagreement.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

That's the issue when you surrender all your principles to become the cult of a con man. Having a principled discussion with you is impossible.

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-14 07:49 PM | Reply

" 70 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-07-14 06:44 PM | FLAG: "

I dont recall him saying that but if he did he's clearly lying.

Here's the thing, Zed.

If Trump does or says something I disagree with I'll call it out. The recent Epstein fiasco being the most recent but also I've been consistently against his tariffs - lack of a congressional bill, the haphazard and unpredictably of them and their negative impact on the economy.

The other side of the coin is if he gets something right I'll give credit where it's due.

#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- principled disagreement.

Principled Traitors in the WH, and their Principled Supporters?

What WILL they think of next?

There was a time in this country when if you supported a traitor, you might be ashamed to admit it.

Now the Trumpers are all PROUD of it.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-14 07:58 PM | Reply

I dont recall him saying that

I don't recall you ever telling the truth.

"Trump Says Epstein Files Were Written by Obama, Clinton"

Dude, it's the headline of the thread you're posting in. WTF.

#78 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 08:04 PM | Reply

Stick to grilling, junior. Politics is beyond you.

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 08:04 PM | Reply

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114842356238631061

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

What's going on with my "boys" and, in some cases, "gals?" They're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We're on one Team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and "selfish people" are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 "Intelligence" Agents, "THE LAPTOP FROM ----," and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called "friends" are playing right into their hands. Why didn't these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn't they use it? They haven't even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it's never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB " SHE'S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 " That's what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it's the "HOTTEST" Country anywhere in the World. Let's keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

#80 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-14 08:06 PM | Reply

"principled disagreement"

hahahahahhhaahahahahahahahahhahaahahahha

#81 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-07-14 08:07 PM | Reply

If Trump does or says something I disagree with I'll call it out. The recent Epstein fiasco being the most recent
#76 | Posted by BellRinger

What specifically are you calling Trump out for, with respect to "The recent Epstein fiasco?"

I don't recall hearing you say what exactly Trump has done -- or not done -- that you disagree with.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 08:07 PM | Reply

A vote for Trump after January the 6th automatically labels you a traitor to the United States of America. Full stop.

#83 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-14 08:12 PM | Reply

Cannot possibly entertain the notion of principled disagreement.
#61 | Posted by BellRinger

What's principled about your disagreement that the Constitution applies to Citizens, not People?

My principles are Freedom, Democracy, Human Rights, and the Rule of Law. Bolstered by the dictionary and legal definitions of the word "person."

Name your principles, by which illegal aliens are denied Constitutional protections that are afforded to people.

This should be an enlightening discussion!

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

There's a great Tweet making the rounds of rabid Trumpers cheering for Trump to release the Epstein Files, followed by complete 180s and "Let's move on from Epstein" this week.

Trump promised to release the files.
Promises Broken.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 08:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Trump Says Epstein Files Were Written by Obama, Clinton"

Dude, it's the headline of the thread you're posting in. WTF.
#78 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-07-14 08:04 PM | FLAG: "

Apologies. Very busy today. I've been hitting the recent comments page. I just read his Truth Social post. Yeah - bad. Embarrassing. Stupid. Dumb. He's handling this terribly. Deserves everything he gets.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 08:33 PM | Reply

You're a ------- imbecile MAGA ----------, Jeff. Burn in ------- ----, you pathetic loser.

#87 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-07-14 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

JeffJ still won't say what Trump has actually done wrong here.

He really thinks we won't notice that little "omission" on his part.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 09:17 PM | Reply

Padilla: Will you defend birthright citizenship as the law of the land?
Bondi: I will study birthright citizenship.

JeffJ: Bondi is a legal genius.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 09:36 PM | Reply

" You're a ------- imbecile MAGA ----------, Jeff. Burn in ------- ----, you pathetic loser.

#87 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2025-07-14 09:05 PM | FLAG: "

This is what pretty much the entirety of DR lefties fully sipport.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-14 09:43 PM | Reply

Meh, your victim card is a little worn around the edges.

You've had ample opportunity to define your principles here, and you continue to avoid it. None of the "DR lefties" is surprised by this.

#91 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-07-14 09:53 PM | Reply

He asked for a principled disagreement.

I stated our principles.

He watched M*A*S*H* reruns.

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-14 10:41 PM | Reply

My principles are Freedom, Democracy, Human Rights, and the Rule of Law. Bolstered by the dictionary and legal definitions of the word "person."
- snoofy

Says the "person" that never met a killer immigrant he didn't like.

#93 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-14 11:16 PM | Reply

This is what pretty much the entirety of DR lefties fully sipport.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger

Yes. We fully sipport hating the fascist cult that is in the process of wrecking the USA for putin.

#94 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-14 11:47 PM | Reply

Says the "person" that never met a killer immigrant he didn't like.

#93 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-07-14 11:16 PM | FLAG:

Mmm. Straw. Stays crunchy in milk!

#95 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:55 AM | Reply

Mmm. Straw. Stays crunchy in milk!

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:55 AM | Reply

Mmmmmmmmmmm Shredded Wheat yummers.

#96 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-15 03:20 AM | Reply

The closer we get to forcing acknowledgement of Epstein tapes the closer the FBI gets to terrorism, imo.

#97 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-15 07:27 AM | Reply

If Trump does or says something I disagree with I'll call it out.

#76 | Posted by BellRinger

If the rabid dog does something you disagree with you'll call it out?

Some bites are better than others? Some people getting bitten deserve it?

You have no values.

Which is how we started this conversation.

#98 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-15 08:17 AM | Reply

Zed,

You have extreme paranoia and living in denial of reality. Clinically insane.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-15 10:59 AM | Reply

You are a lover and enabler of hydrophobia.

#100 | Posted by Zed at 2025-07-15 11:07 AM | Reply

Zed,
You have extreme paranoia and living in denial of reality. Clinically insane.
#99 | Posted by BellRinger

Speaking of living in denial,

We're still waiting for that principled discussion of whether or not Illegal Immigrants are subject to the Constitution of the United States.
Whether or not the Federal Government is bound by the Constitution of the United States when interacting with Illegal Immigrants present in the United States.

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 11:11 AM | Reply

You have extreme paranoia and living in denial of reality. Clinically insane.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger

That's what you would say in 2020 to people who said trump would refuse to leave power peacefully if he lost.

#102 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 12:14 PM | Reply

This so called list has been in the zone of ambiguity ever since Epstein's death.

Would you trust anything released now?

Epstein boasted of knowing Middle East Princes.

My guess is Trump is being pressured in many directions to make this go away.

If could become an international scandal.

Most likely not everyone who visited the island partook in illegal activity with young girls.

I've said before just because I post an opinion doesn't mean I'm defending this.

Just that Trump might be better off negotiating with some people keeping the list private.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 12:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Middle Aged Riot
@milldleagedriot

Face it, MAGA, if your president's name weren't all over the Epstein files, they would have been released unredacted, printed, and bound in $500 special editions signed by Trump, recorded as an audio book by James Woods and Mel Gibson, and tattooed on Lauren Boebert's ass.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 12:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Most likely not everyone who visited the island partook in illegal activity with young girls."

Then why not release the names?
You're covering for countless child rapists, and you are proud of it.

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 12:49 PM | Reply

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Look who came out as pro pedophilia.

I knew you had it in you.

#106 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 12:49 PM | Reply

Trump is in a no win situation.

If he releases a partial list, he could get accused of covering up for any other names that might come out later.

This might even be on the verge of national security.

Personally, if Trump could have been definitely tied to Epstein's illicit activities, don't you think democrats would have already done it?

They had the DOJ, the press, and the motivation. Nothing stuck.

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 12:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I've said before just because I post an opinion doesn't mean I'm defending this.

Just that Trump might be better off negotiating with some people keeping the list private.
#103 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2025-07-15 12:38 PM |

youre crapping on the victims because it might hurt your orange god.

disgusting.

#108 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:54 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Screw you and your smug little implication that I support pedophiles.

And take Clown with you. Crawl back to whatever echo chamber you both slithered out of.

#109 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 12:56 PM | Reply

" Trump is in a no win situation."

Thats what happens when your best friend of 15 years rapes kids, and you lose a defamation case tied to a rape. when you sexualize your own daughter publicly. and you brag about sexual assault, and brag about watching teenage pageant girls undress.

trump did this to himself but youre here to lick his wounds. be proud "christian".

#110 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:57 PM | Reply

" Screw you and your smug little implication that I support pedophiles."

you bought a bible from an atheist pedophile rapist.

own it.

#111 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:58 PM | Reply

Alex,

"youre crapping on the victims because it might hurt your orange god.
disgusting."

What part of "I've said before just because I post an opinion doesn't mean I'm defending this." did you not understand.

#112 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 12:59 PM | Reply

the part where your ass is too fat and corrupt to cover.

#113 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 12:59 PM | Reply

you give trump your money and vote.

you not only defend this you enable it.

#114 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 01:00 PM | Reply

My guess is Trump is being pressured in many directions to make this go away.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson

I thought trump's whole sales pitch was "I'm already rich so I can't be corrupted like the rest of the politicians"

You morons decided you could accept fascism if it meant fighting the elites. Now you're getting fascism, and he's not even fighting the elites.

#115 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 01:07 PM | Reply

Personally, if Trump could have been definitely tied to Epstein's illicit activities, don't you think democrats would have already done it?

They had the DOJ, the press, and the motivation. Nothing stuck.

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson

They also had proof that trump attempted a coup, but they did nothing with it. Biden was a delusional moderate who hired a conservative judge to be attorney general.

Their approach to republican criminals and traitors was "maybe if we're nice enough to them they'll stop hating us."

#116 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 01:09 PM | Reply

Alex,

National security outweighs the personal grievances of those who chose to live in Epstein's orbit.

Like it or not, that's the harsh reality.

Neither you nor I know the full scope of Epstein's associations.

Even your obsession with Trump takes a back seat.

I'm only speculating about national security, but I can easily believe Epsteins influence was global.

#117 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 01:11 PM | Reply

National security outweighs the personal grievances

#117 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yet you don't apply that logic to trump's coup attempt

#118 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 01:19 PM | Reply

Trump is in a no win situation.

Those underaged girls he raped were in a no win situation.

#119 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 01:30 PM | Reply

"Trump is in a no win situation."

He put himself in it.

#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 01:44 PM | Reply

My wife corrected me that some girls were kidnapped against their will.

Epstein got what he deserved.

As far as others who participated, guilt by association and trial by public opinion is a symptom of a dumbed down society where standards are lower, and thinking is optional.

#121 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:00 PM | Reply

As far as others who participated, guilt by association and trial by public opinion is a symptom of a dumbed down society where standards are lower, and thinking is optional.
#121 | Posted by BillJohnson

And what is a government that won't release the evidence?

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 02:03 PM | Reply

"Republicans move to block Democratic effort to force release of Epstein files

Republican lawmakers have moved to block a Democratic effort to force the release of the so-called Epstein files, a near-mythological trove of undisclosed information about the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein at the center of an internal political war among US conservatives."

www.theguardian.com

The Cover-Up continues.....

#123 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-15 02:05 PM | Reply

This might be an example of where the cover-up isn't worse than the crime.

#124 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-15 02:13 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"And what is a government that won't release the evidence?"

What if...just what if...there are heads of state or mega institutions on that list?

I'd venture to guess Trump is only now discovering the full scope, thanks to how tightly this has been buried.

Keep in mind this was a private island, virtually unapproachable by land or sea without being seen. And Epstein was hosting some of the most vile activities imaginable.

If certain names were made public, it could unravel international trade, political alliances, intelligence relationships...the list goes on...the ripple effects would be massive.

But dems are chanting, "I feel like it's the right thing to do...what are you covering up about yourself?"...how simple minded can you get?.

I'm speculating...just like you.

#125 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:21 PM | Reply

" it could unravel international trade, political alliances, intelligence relationships"

yeah, trump would never want to destroy trade with ... say ... canada for no good reason.

LOL. go read your trump bible.

#126 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 02:24 PM | Reply

"What if...just what if...there are heads of state or mega institutions on that list?"

Why is that a problem?
Now, at your moment of opportunity, it turns out you don't want to Drain The Swamp after all!

You're a complete failure of morality, BillJohnson.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 02:25 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Buh-bye...

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:27 PM | Reply

too funny!
The only reason to blame Clinton and Obama is because Trump's NIL is all over the phone list and the vids.
All of a sudden all those MAGA loudmouths are all lined up behind Trump!
They were all over TV and CPAC feeling betrayed less than 24 hours ago and now they're all marching in step!

I gotta say, MAGA's convinced me Trump's a pedophile.

#129 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-15 02:27 PM | Reply

Alex,

"yeah, trump would never want to destroy trade with ... say ... canada for no good reason.
LOL. go read your trump bible."

I want to believe you're smarter than that....

#130 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:29 PM | Reply

I want to believe you're smarter than that....
#130 | Posted by BillJohnson

We want to believe you read the news once in a while.
It doesn't seem like you do.

Trump threatens 35% tariffs on Canadian goods
www.bbc.com

#131 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 02:30 PM | Reply

Yav,

"I gotta say, MAGA's convinced me Trump's a pedophile."

I gotta say, this obsession with Trump being more important than anything, even Epstein's global network, is exactly why Democrats aren't taken serious anymore.

#132 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:35 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Trump threatens 35% tariffs on Canadian goods."

Think bigger than Canada.

You see tariffs. I see leverage.

#133 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 02:37 PM | Reply

Bill.

Defending a pedophile is disgusting.

But it's what you do when you're in a cult.

Trump admits he sexually assaulted women.

Trump has been found guilty in court for having raped a woman.

Trump has been accused by underage girls of having been raped by him.

There's over 15 years of documented evidence of Trump and Epsteins friendship.

There are thousands of photographs of Epstein and Trump partying with underage girls.

There's you defending it all.

You're disgusting

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You see tariffs. I see leverage.
#133 | Posted by BillJohnson

Leverage.
The same kind of leverage a mugger has over a little old lady.
I see the powerful bullying the weak.

Why don't you see that?
Or do you see that and think it's okay.

#135 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 02:54 PM | Reply

Hey BJ - I've considered all these allegations against everyone stupid conspiracy crap up until your ilk went ------- over being lied to by your golden hero. It's all come back on you. It's perfect. It's beautiful. I'm laughing my ass off over you getting blown up by your own petard.

And now your constant propagation lies, of "bearing false witness"has come home to roost and what do you have to say for yourself?

Just exactly what I thought.

Maybe if you'd find a true moral compass and principles you would look like such a fool.

#136 | Posted by YAV at 2025-07-15 02:57 PM | Reply

"I gotta say, this obsession with Trump being more important than anything"

He's the most important leader in the United States right now.
Probably in the world.
Do you disagree?

#137 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 02:57 PM | Reply

Trump: "Why is anyone talking about Epstein?"

BullJohnson: "Why is anyone talking about Trump?"

Same energy.

#138 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 03:02 PM | Reply

"Screw you and your smug little implication that I support pedophiles"

You know, poor saps defend tax cuts for the rich because they think they will be rich themselves some day.

They also probably defend hiding the activities of pedophiles using the same reasoning.

Hide your daughters from these people.

#139 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-07-15 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As far as others who participated, guilt by association and trial by public opinion is a symptom of a dumbed down society where standards are lower, and thinking is optional.

#121 | Posted by BillJohnson

You're the one doing no thinking if you can't see why republicans are blocking the release.

Guilt by association was fine for bill gates and bill clinton. And you don't see any democrats defending them. Dems are voting to release the info.

#140 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Di,

"You know, poor saps defend tax cuts for the rich because they think they will be rich themselves some day."

Funny...in my 20's I used to tell myself that same thing.

When my horizon expanded that idea changed.

#141 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 03:44 PM | Reply

When my horizon expanded that idea changed.

#141 | Posted by BillJohnson

And yet you keep voting for the party that only cares for the rich.

#142 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 03:46 PM | Reply

If Trump were to announce he's signing an executive order to legalize pedophilia, Republicans would be raping children in the streets.

#143 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 04:30 PM | Reply

Speak,

"And yet you keep voting for the party that only cares for the rich."

I voted for Reagan and then straight Democratic ticket until Trump.

#144 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 04:38 PM | Reply

"Funny...in my 20's I used to tell myself that same thing.
When my horizon expanded that idea changed."

So you have a more nuanced view when you carry water for people protecting pedophiles?

#145 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-07-15 04:48 PM | Reply

Bill.

What drew you to Trump?

Was it his several bankruptcies?

His fondness for underaged girls?

Or his hatred for liberals and minorities?

#146 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 04:48 PM | Reply

Or his hatred for liberals and minorities?

Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 04:48 PM | Reply

This one is what I think. Just a hunch.

#147 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-15 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why do you people continue to respond to the proven liar/hypocrite that is "billjohnson"?????

Dude is a fuggin' dirtbag and deserves only to be mocked and ridiculed.

#148 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-07-15 05:21 PM | Reply

Clown,

"What drew you to Trump?"

As Bob Dylan put it, "times they are a-changin'"

When did the Democrats start hating the Constitution?

#149 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 06:22 PM | Reply

As Bob Dylan put it, "times they are a-changin'"

Since you chose not to answer I'll assume it was his fondness for raping underaged girls that drew you to Trump.

When did the Democrats start hating the Constitution?

You tell me. It's your stupid game.

#150 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-15 06:25 PM | Reply

Trumps the one shredding the 5th amendment to MAGA cheers.

#151 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-15 06:25 PM | Reply

When did the Democrats start hating the Constitution?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-07-15 06:22 PM | Reply

GFY BILLJOHNSON. You voted for someone who tried to overthrow the Constitution and the rule of law. You dishonest POS.

#152 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-07-15 06:25 PM | Reply

When did the Democrats start hating the Constitution?

#149 | Posted by BillJohnson

When they ignored the 14th ammendment and allowed an insurrectionist to run for president. Who you then happily voted for.

#153 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-15 06:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

"Trump threatens 35% tariffs on Canadian goods."

Think bigger than Canada.

You see tariffs. I see leverage.

#133 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You see "leverage".

I see a con man and a mobster leaning on the weak and pressuring them.. basically requiring "deals" for insurance protection.

"Nice country's got there. Be a shame if something happened to it."

#154 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-07-15 06:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Democrats voted to release ALL the Epstein files, because they want the truth to come out, even if some of our favorites are implicated.

The Repubicans voted AGAINST releasing the Epstein files. An issue they campaigned on, and all the DR fascists will be running to defend the pedos because that's their people.

#155 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-07-15 08:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#155

That's seems to me to be a correct summation.

#156 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-15 08:41 PM | Reply

@#154

Yup.

#157 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-15 08:42 PM | Reply

Yeah the Democrats have a winning issue to run on now. And it's an issue the Republicans are running from, and have no good answers for.

It is starting to seem possible that this story isn't going away.

At this point it's not a sure thing that Greatest Trump Depression would be enough for the Democrats to win. But it probably would get this story out of the news. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

#158 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-15 09:40 PM | Reply

This is interesting ...

Trump was reelected with help from podcasters like Joe Rogan. Is he losing their support over Epstein and Iran?
abcnews.go.com

... President Donald Trump is facing mounting backlash from his MAGA base over his administration's handling of the Epstein files and its deepening involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict -- and the splintering is especially evident among many of the podcasters and comedians who helped propel his return to power last year.

During his 2024 campaign, Trump embraced podcasts as a key media strategy to reach audiences beyond traditional outlets, and made high-profile campaign appearances on podcasts hosted by comedians like Joe Rogan, Andrew Schulz, and Theo Von.

Now, just over six months into his presidency, many of those same hosts are using their shows to publicly break with the president over campaign promises they say he's gone back on -- particularly his backing off on releasing files connected to convicted sex offender Jeffery Epstein and his pledge to avoid new foreign entanglements. ...


#159 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-15 10:34 PM | Reply

Still hanging in there ...

Pam Bondi dodges questions on Epstein and Bongino amid Justice Department turmoil
apnews.com

... Attorney General Pam Bondi suggested Tuesday that she has no plans to step down as she dodged questions about Jeffrey Epstein and her clash with a top FBI official, seeking to press ahead with a business-as-usual approach in the face of right-wing turmoil.

Pressed by reporters during an announcement touting drug seizures, Bondi sidestepped questions about the fallout of the Trump administration's decision not to release more records related to the wealthy financier's sex trafficking investigation. With some high profile-members of President Donald Trump's base calling for her resignation, Bondi made clear she intends to remain attorney general.

"I'm going to be here for as long as the president wants me here," Bondi said. "And I believe he's made that crystal clear."

The announcement at the Drug Enforcement Administration headquarters represents an effort by Bondi to turn the page on the Epstein controversy and show that the Justice Department is forging ahead after days of mounting conservative criticism over the administration's failure to deliver long-sought government secrets about Epstein. Bondi highlighted recent operations that led to the seizure of methamphetamine and fentanyl, including drugs that were hidden in a shipment of cucumbers across the Mexican border. ...


#160 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-07-15 11:16 PM | Reply

"I'm going to be here for as long as the president wants me here," Bondi said. "And I believe he's made that crystal clear."

Two things Lewzer is famous for are his loyalty to his staff, and keeping his promises.

#161 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-07-15 11:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah the Democrats have a winning issue to run on now.

#158 | Posted by snoofy

They had this issue in 2024 and refused to use it. Pathetic losers.

Just like they had his insurrection which should have banned him from running, and refused to use it. Pathetic losers.

#162 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-07-16 12:02 PM | Reply

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