This is stupid. She was the aggressor.

How was she the aggressor?

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-08-06 06:17 PM | Reply | Flag

Ms. Kelver said she had two shots at the bar, then went outside to smoke a cigarette before her shift at about 10 p.m. One man in a group of three shouted a profanity directed at the Crowbar, according to court records, and Ms. Kelver said that the man, Scott Durham, also yelled an anti-gay slur, though he denied that to the police. Ms. Kelver, upset, walked up to the men and asked, "What did you just say?" according to police reports. Surveillance video from a downtown camera shows her walking into the street toward the men, one hand on her hip by the pack that held the gun. Seconds later, Mr. Durham pushed her away, and Ms. Kelver stumbled and fell onto her back.

It's unclear exactly what the man said, but lets pretend he directed a comment about being trans at her. She put her hand on her gun and approached them. That makes her the aggressor. Unless, that is, you believe it should be commonplace that people put their hand on their gun when someone calls them a name.

The article is written to extract emotion, not what actually happened.

Were you trying to prove how she wasn't the aggressor?
Well done.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-06 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Those people didn't approach her. It was the other way around. And that's why she got arrested. The same reason George Zimmerman got arrested. If she'd have stayed on the porch until they became an actual threat, she could have taken them out - legally.

If the men were Muslim you'd be crying.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-06 07:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

If the men were Muslim I'd have fired a warning shot from the porch just to let them know to keep walking.

Has this person accused been going guilty of anything? Then STFU

If the men were Muslim I'd have fired a warning shot from the porch just to let them know to keep walking.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Not just an internet tough guy, but a POS human being.

#38 | POSTED BY DBT2 AT 2026-08-07 10:21 AM | REPLY

I was placing myself in her shoes.

but lets start at the basics, what kind of ------- ------ of any race or orientation, is walking around strapped and sucking down hard liquor on their way to work?

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2026-08-07 10:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

The kind with a chip on their shoulder looking to make the NYT headline.