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That was a bit of a misstep on my part to say "it's not the platform that bothers them"

Yes, the platform bothers people but mostly because it's getting traction.

Not because it's new or original.

-You think semantics will save you?

I don't need saved.

I don't need anybody's help and I'm simply pointing out historical facts

The GOP has been......

Anti-choice
anti-gay
pro trickle down tax policy
pro free trade
anti immigrant
racist
anti-poor
anti-healthcare
etc....

for as long as most of you can remember.

the only thing that's changed is that it has a new name...MAGA

But the objectives and goals are the same.

"corporations paid competitive wages which happen to be living wages at one point in America's history."

FT

-You two actually seem to agree.

I know. Clown knows it as well but he can't help himself. He has to argue over nothing.

It's me, afterall.

"The MAGA platform of sending ICE into blue states and cities to create chaos?
The MAGA platform of clearing the path for Trump to do whatever he wants?
The MAGA platform to destroy America as we've known it our entire lives?
Which MAGA platform are you referring to?"

Republicans have been stealing social security, stealing health care, stealing school lunches and pushing grandma over a cliff my entire life.

MAGA is just a word for it now. The platform is the same.

Women use to have to stay in the kitchen and minorities had to stay in the ghettos.

And if they dared show up to work......those benevolent corporations you think were so so so nice who paid you a living wage could pay women and minorities much less, treat them like shit and put their water fountains and bathrooms way far away if they wanted to work there.

Then that changed. Then we discovered we could get a Mexican or a Chinese person to work for pennies compared to your minimum wage.

Then you realized that they were always paying you a competitive wage.

Which is what they do now.

-Trump tariffs were specifically for stock market manipulation and personal gain.

Exactly. It's not like the GOP reversed their position on free trade.

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So, you're seriously not getting it. You're not pretending?

Because anybody with a room temp IQ can understand the concept.

Rootbeer used to be $.05. minimum wage would let you buy a lot of rootbeer.

But when we let women, minorities and billions of poor people in developing nations have a crack at your minimum wage job......suddenly your services aren't so high in demand when women, minorities, and everyone else is being invited into your job.

-Not sure where the rest of you live. But here in California. Sidewalks are public property. The city is responsible for repairs. Anyone is allowed to use them.

I know that....but do you consider a side walk to be socialism.

-Corporations paid living wages and a single income household could afford to live comfortably.

You're lying

Employers paid competitive wages in a completely different global and social environment that happened to be a living wage at the time

They didn't pay people $8/hour if the worker would have taken the job for $5/hour.

Why are you lying?

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The GOP has been going after those things for years and years prior to MAGA or Project 25

-You look like a fool doing it,

I enjoy it regardless.......

-Republicans changed for the worse, or are you going to deny that Vance said Trump was "America's Hitler" and is now his VP?

I completely agree with you. Current republicans are the worst.

But they've always been the worst.

-Quit telling me what I think or how I vote, you fucking suck at it, eberly.

I won't tell you how you vote.....but yes, I'll be glad to tell you how you think, LOL

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indeed.

It's not even the MAGA platform that bothers the left.

It's that the left has lost against it.

It's not the platform....it's the losing.

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Nobody takes that seriously. Certainly not the democratic party.

Oh, they can wave that stuff around in a few districts and try to win some primaries with it....and hell, maybe a general election or 2 with it.

But that's a far as that goes.

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Dammit....I wanted one of the others to chime in with that.

Look what happened with that Everyone is pissed as hell.....even the farmers.

-I respected McCain for not letting an audience member say Obama was a "Muslim".

uh huh....and when he picked that stupid bitch from Alaska as his running mate, what happened to that respect?

The republican will always change to something that will irritate you.

MAGA is just today. Yesterday it was the Tea Party, tomorrow it will be something else.

and you'll soften on the whole MAGA thing once it's replaced with something else designed for you to scream at.

-Romney, McCain was hated vs Obama, now loved.

All the republicans become nice guys once they're out of power and no longer bothering people.

No republican ever stays the same. Each year, they become more beloved and less despised.

Which is what makes possible for the next republican to be worse than the last one. Year after year.

Even Trump one day. Despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth right now......the next republican will be worse and then the next and then the next..

Trump won't live long past being president if he even makes it that far so he won't live to see it happen.....but it'll happen.

-Historically and currently, some corporations have paid wages sufficient to cover basic living expenses,

what exactly do you mean by that? Can you give some examples?

you're not going to trot out that line by Henry Ford, are you?