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Thursday, October 09, 2025

President Trump announced that Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of a ceasefire deal. That includes Hamas agreeing to release all of the remaining hostages

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What do you progressives think about this? I just want to see how you guys will spin this..

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2025-10-08 07:07 PM | Reply

I'm not opposed to peace. I find it hard to believe Trump could remember all twenty points of his peace plan, but I can't argue with results.

Hopefully next he can make a peace deal with the Venezuelan drug cartels that he's been bombing, IDF style.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-08 07:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny part is you are dumb enough to believe this will last

#3 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-10-08 07:13 PM | Reply

So Hamas has disarmed?

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-08 07:23 PM | Reply

Peace deal number ... 6 or 7 now?

Netanyahu can't have peace, not if he plans to stay out of prison.

This is just another lie from Trump which Boaz fully believes.

"Putin is a Savvy Genius!"
-Boaz

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-08 07:25 PM | Reply

Nobody believes this crap. Trump is desperate to get the Nobel Peace Prize that he will concoct this shenanigans. He's a fraud.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-10-08 07:26 PM | Reply

What do you progressives think about this?
#1 | POSTED BY BOAZ

I think you're a traitor to the United States of America, you're an ------- and an idiot.

Go cry about it, stupid.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-08 07:26 PM | Reply

What, it's not even Friday yet and Major B gives him that Nobel Peace Prize already?

He also said he's stopped 10 wars this year, and that he was going to make Peace in Ukraine Day One or before.

Trump also said that Mexico was going to pay for a Wall, and that he didn't write the Birthday Card to his Wingman Jeffery Epstein.

But, Kimmel's Revenge says otherwise!

@ 3:20 in

www.youtube.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 07:27 PM | Reply

Trump is desperate to get the Nobel Peace Prize

He's been removed from eligibility.

He's thrown America and the world into chaos.

Trump is the antichrist.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-08 07:27 PM | Reply

"first phase"

lmao!

That means he's playing toesies with both Netanyagenocide and Hamas hocks.

Also, this is for Cease Fire talks, NOT a Peace Deal.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 07:39 PM | Reply

www.aljazeera.com

a call for a decolonized peace plan

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 07:42 PM | Reply

He's been removed from eligibility.
He's thrown America and the world into chaos.
Trump is the antichrist.
#9 | Posted by ClownShack

Quiet you, you'll make Henry Kissinger jealous!

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-08 07:44 PM | Reply

Is it true that Henry and Margaret Thatcher and Ronnie Ray-Gun, ZAP!... had a threesome on Epstein Island before it was Epstein Island?

Because that's a disgusting image right there.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 07:50 PM | Reply

This is a great read:

"Sunday Borowitz: Who Created Trump? Surprise! It was Ronnie Ray-gun... zap!"

preview:

"After the United Nations voted to recognize the People's Republic of China, on October 25, 1971, members of the Tanzanian delegation danced in celebration. The confluence of a communist state attaining prestige and Africans being happy was too much for Reagan, who, in a rage, rang up Nixon.

"Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did," Reagan said.

"To see those, those monkeys from those African countries " damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"

Ever the performer, the Gipper knew his audience; Nixon can be heard laughing uproariously."

much more:

www.dailykos.com

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 08:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...and that he was going to make Peace in Ukraine Day One or before.

Russia just said "Eff that".

www.aljazeera.com

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-08 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What do you progressives think about this? I just want to see how you guys will spin this..

#1 | POSTED BY BOAZ

No need to spin. We just wait a few days and they'll be back to killing each other and Trump will have another item on his list of premature victory declarations made to feed his fragile ego.

You're a f^*%ing idiot for thinking this means a damn thing.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-08 09:11 PM | Reply

#6,

Trump has made more peace with more countries than any democrat I have seen.

Yall act like he has done nothing.

#17 | Posted by boaz at 2025-10-08 09:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

No he didn't

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-08 09:15 PM | Reply

Lewzer could easily get the Peace Prize if he worked on it. If he can make lasting peace deals that actually do something he'd be a shoo-in.

But that takes a lot of work, and he's lazy. Rubio is the one that should be working on the peace negotiations, but can't risk him getting the Prize instead.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-08 09:27 PM | Reply

Lewzer could easily get the Peace Prize if he worked on it.

What are you talking about? He has negotiated peace deals in at least 3 conflicts.

If he can make lasting peace deals

At least he's trying. And "lasting" peace deals will up to the people doing the fighting, not Trump. He at least got them to the table and signed something.

The barbaric Muslims do not want cooperative "peace". They only want Muslim peace. Which doesn't include Israel, or anyone else that's not Muslim.

#20 | Posted by boaz at 2025-10-08 10:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

- in at least 3 conflicts.

He claims it's 10... make that 11, now. Other people can actually count.

- signed something.

A ceasefire, not a peace treaty.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-08 10:28 PM | Reply

What are you talking about?

My point is, he is not winning the 2025 prize. It's too late. He's not even nominated. It's probably been decided for months already. The 2026 Prize is his for the taking. If he could stop the wars in Gaza and Ukraine in a meaningful way, it's his. And maybe stop with the random boat attacks in the Caribbean. And maybe tone down the threats on the whole planet. Revisiting Kent State after all these years isn't a real "Peace Prize" look, either.

He at least got them to the table and signed something.

Not really, he yelled at other people to do it. He's just flying in for the photo-op. Which is all he ever does.

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-08 10:39 PM | Reply

Zionism is an ethno-supremacist death cult and MAGA is a white supremacist cult of personality. To expect the two to come together and agree on something that will be beneficial for the future well-being of ANYONE on this planet other than themselves is pointless.

There will be no peace as long as those two ultra-violent, fascist entities continue to hold the reins of power in their respective countries.

#23 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-10-08 11:36 PM | Reply

Yall act like he has done nothing.

#17 | Posted by boaz

Everyone knows what Trump has done.

You put your finger on the problem, as always.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 07:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17 | Posted by boaz

If you're honest, you know that very little of what Trump does ever amounts to much----Unless it is tearing something down.

Gaza is just an exercise in ego-feeding from his point of view.

Most things are just an exercise in ego-feeding, from his point of view.

Little or nothing will come from this.

My bet is on nothing.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 07:41 AM | Reply

What do you progressives think...
#1 | Posted by boaz

You don't care about peace, unless it helps you own the Libs!

#26 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-10-09 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What do you progressives think about this? I just want to see how you guys will spin this..
#1 | POSTED BY BOAZ

"You progressives."
LOL.
You don't even know what progressivism was/is about.
You do know Theodore Roosevelt was famous for being a progressive, right?
As usual, you just want something to yell at ...

BOO!

#27 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-09 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh puhleeze. This "deal" will collapse in a week just like they have for the last 3,000 years.

#28 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-10-09 08:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

POSTED BY BOAZ

Trump blathers on and on and on about all the peace he's somehow created.

While all the while actively preparing to pursue a war against his own people.

BOAZ, Americans will be killed in that war.

You're an American, aren't you?

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 08:18 AM | Reply

Here's a prediction---I'll be pleased to be wrong----

Trump is denied the Nobel and takes it out on Portland by declaring an insurrection.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 08:20 AM | Reply

Here's an ancillary prediction---

If Trump declares an insurrection anywhere there will be dead civilians within twenty-four hours.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 08:26 AM | Reply

He has negotiated peace deals in at least 3 conflicts.

It's amazing someone this stupid made it to adult hood.

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-10-09 08:44 AM | Reply

"What do you progressives think about this? I just want to see how you guys will spin this."

I think you got your answer.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think you got your answer.

#33 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Well, since it's posted above that's no feat.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 10:02 AM | Reply

For the people of Gaza I hope this deal lasts.

Since Netanyahoos goal is genocide for the Middle East Riviera development I don't think it will.

#35 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-10-09 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He has negotiated peace deals in at least 3 conflicts.

I'm curious about which 3? Ukraine? No. Pak/India? No. Gaza? No. Obscure African countries no one has heard of? Maybe.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-09 10:09 AM | Reply

Maybe the one where he named a trade route after himself?

#37 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-09 10:10 AM | Reply

"For the people of Gaza I hope this deal lasts."

Why for the people of Gaza?

Why not for everyone? Why not for the world?

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 10:13 AM | Reply

Remember how this whole thing started.

#39 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 10:14 AM | Reply

Yeah, before you were born.

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-09 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"For the people of Gaza I hope this deal lasts."
Why for the people of Gaza?
#38 | Posted by madbomber

Because the people of Gaza are the only ones getting ethnically cleansed.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember how this whole thing started.

#39 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

The Israelis went far beyond even revenge on this thing.

This "peace deal" won't last.

It's not in Netanyahu's interest that it lasts.

He's just feeding a bottle to Little Baby Trump.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Other than the 1200 Jews on 10/7, you mean.

#43 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 10:32 AM | Reply

"The Israelis went far beyond even revenge on this thing."

I don't know what Israel's objective was, but presumably it was the unconditional surrender of Hamas.

Remember what the US did to Japan, when Japan refused to surrender?

#44 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 10:33 AM | Reply

What do you progressives think about this? I just want to see how you guys will spin this..

#1 | Posted by boaz

Peace deal? Hamas hasn't been doing anything for about 2 years. They aren't capable of doing anything. They've just been watching Israel bomb the territory.

So Israel saying the bombing is stopping is a Peace Deal?

#45 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-09 10:37 AM | Reply

I think you got your answer.

#33 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Stating the obvious that you idiot cheerleaders will refuse to see isn't "spin."

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 10:43 AM | Reply

"Stating the obvious that you idiot cheerleaders will refuse to see isn't "spin."

You're not a cheerleader of some sort of peace???? That's odd.

I would have thought pretty much everyone would be hoping this works out.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 10:54 AM | Reply

"some sort of peace"

Ethnic cleansing isn't an act of peace.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember what the US did to Japan, when Japan refused to surrender?
#44 | Posted by madbomber

Japan is a nation.
HAMAS isn't.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The barbaric Muslims do not want cooperative "peace". They only want Muslim peace. Which doesn't include Israel, or anyone else that's not Muslim.
#20 | Posted by boaz

So Trump's deal is a fake deal that won't work?

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 10:59 AM | Reply

FWIW, I don't think it will work out. Hamas can agree to something, the PA can agree to something, but at the end of the day, Palestinians don't want peace with Israel. They want to destroy it.

In 2024, 65% of Palestinians opposed a two-state solution.

63% support the continuation of confrontation and intifada.

62% believe the PA should be dissolved.

67% support Hamas's actions on 10/7. In the west bank, it's 73%.

Palestinians have spent the last eight decades being indoctrinated into a belief that something was taken from them. That Palestine has some unique right to exist while Israel does not. I don't think there will be a state of Palestine until Palestinians care more about creating their own state than they do about destroying Israel.

#51 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Ethnic cleansing isn't an act of peace."

Aren't you part of the "From the River to the Sea" crowd?

That's literally a call to arms in support of genocide.

#52 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 11:04 AM | Reply

The Palestine Health Authorities report that since 7 Oct 2023, the "barbaric" Jews of Israel have killed 67,194 Muslims, the majority of whom were women and children; at least 169,890 others have been maimed or injured. In the past 24 hours, 11 bodies and 49 injured individuals were brought to hospitals in Gaza.

During the armed raid to seize hostages on 7 Oct 2023 in order to effect a prisoner swap for any number of the thousands of Palestinians being barbarically tortured in IDF prisons, 1,200 Israelis were killed and 251 were taken captive. Some reports suggest several Israeli casualties were the result of IDF fratricide.

Note that it took 20 years for the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) and Viet Cong (VC) guerrillas to kill 58,281 of our Servicemembers in SE Asia; thanks to the hardworking American taxpayer and German arms manufacturers, the IDF easily surpassed this number by 8,913 within two scant years.

The abominable Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich ghoulishly described Gaza as a potential "real estate bonanza" and claimed he was talking to the US about how to divide up the war-torn enclave (CNN, 18 Sep 2025). Vultures Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff, and notorious Islamophobe Tony Blair have been circling the carcass of Gaza for weeks now.


An international arrest warrant issued by the ICC for crimes against humanity remains active for ex-DM Yoav Gallant and PM Benjamin Netanyahu (AKA the 'Butcher of Bethlehem'). But please remember, an indictment is merely an allegation. Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant are presumed innocent until they are proven guilty by an international tribunal which will be held for them at the Hague in the future. To ensure a fair trial, both defendants must be referred to as "alleged" war criminals.

#53 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-09 11:37 AM | Reply

You're not a cheerleader of some sort of peace???? That's odd.

I would have thought pretty much everyone would be hoping this works out.

#47 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

There's light years of space between hoping it works (against nearly all historical norms) and acting like Trump solved the Middle East violence problem.

One is realistic thinking and pragmatism, the other is cultish devotion to an idiot.

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 11:40 AM | Reply

Palestinians have spent the last eight decades being indoctrinated into a belief that something was taken from them. That Palestine has some unique right to exist while Israel does not. I don't think there will be a state of Palestine until Palestinians care more about creating their own state than they do about destroying Israel.

#51 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

As with nearly everything on this topic, you could replace Palestinian with Israelis in that paragraph and it will be just as true.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"One is realistic thinking and pragmatism, the other is cultish devotion to an idiot."

Keep in mind, you have to agree on the definition of "peace".

That part of the world with those characters involved? Peace is simply putting the pin back in the grenade for the time being.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-09 11:46 AM | Reply

#57 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-09 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Palestinians have spent the last eight decades being indoctrinated into a belief that something was taken from them."

Was anything taken from them, when they were forced from their homes?

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dummkopf Trumpf is getting a second "annual" physical examination at WRAMC: x.com

The Dotard-in-Chief may want to wobble victory laps over the corpses of dead Muslims in Gaza while his vulture-in-law Jared Kushner starts divvying up their land with the odious Bezalel Smotrich and the abominable Tony Blair.

#59 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-09 12:08 PM | Reply

"Ethnic cleansing isn't an act of peace."
Aren't you part of the "From the River to the Sea" crowd?
That's literally a call to arms in support of genocide.
#52 | Posted by madbomber

Is it a call for genocide when Jews says it, or just when Muslims say it?

Knesset votes 71-13 for non-binding motion calling to annex West Bank
Symbolic resolution calls West Bank inseparable part of the Land of Israel'; critics say it reflects misplaced priorities as PA calls it dangerous escalation'
www.timesofisrael.com

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So predictable going to this thread and seeing all the Demtards praying that this peace deal doesn't happen.

#61 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-09 12:35 PM | Reply

"Demtards praying"

Thoughts and Prayers is a MAGA thing.
Not a Democrat thing.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 12:37 PM | Reply

Aren't you part of the "From the River to the Sea" crowd?
--madbomber

"West Bank inseparable part of the Land of Israel"
--Israeli Parliament

There were good "From The River To The Sea" people on both sides.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Demtards praying"
Thoughts and Prayers is a MAGA thing.
Not a Democrat thing.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 12:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ok, Demtards are hoping this peace deal doesn't happen.

#64 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-09 12:54 PM | Reply

Ok, Demtards are hoping this peace deal doesn't happen.

#64 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Thank you Nostradumbass for telling us what we think.

Democrats are just as happy for the possibility that the remaining hostages will FINALLY come home as any maga maroon.

Let's see what really happens and what happens after.

Neither Nutty Yahoo or Trumpy can be trusted as far as you can throw them.

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-09 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

67% support Hamas's actions on 10/7. In the west bank, it's 73%.

#51 | Posted by madbomber

Knowing the conditions before 10/7, I can't blame them.
Knowing the conditions after 10/7, I REALLY can't blame them.

Israel was randomly murdering Palestinians and no one cared for decades.

#66 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-09 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#65 Nope, you douche bags want anything Trump has to do with to fail. He could find a cure for cancer and because of your extreme case of TDS you would say it was bad because somehow Cancer is good for you. It's not like any of this is new. It's been your playbook for the last 10 years. You cried the night of the Butler shooting not because someone tried to kill the president but because they missed.

#67 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-09 01:42 PM | Reply

Israel was randomly murdering Palestinians and no one cared for decades.

#66 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-09 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

And it was the same the other way around. Maybe it will actually stop this time.

#68 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-09 01:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

He could find a cure for cancer

67 | POSTED BY FISHPUD

www.wired.com

The 300 lb sack of child killed cancer research.

#69 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-10-09 01:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So predictable going to this thread and seeing all the Demtards praying that this peace deal doesn't happen.

#61 | Posted by fishpaw

Not being a stupid cultist piece of s*&^ who thinks Trump is the second coming of Jesus doesn't mean anyone is "praying that this peace deal doesn't happen."

#70 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 02:36 PM | Reply

Nope, you douche bags want anything Trump has to do with to fail. He could find a cure for cancer and because of your extreme case of TDS you would say it was bad because somehow Cancer is good for you. It's not like any of this is new. It's been your playbook for the last 10 years. You cried the night of the Butler shooting not because someone tried to kill the president but because they missed.

#67 | Posted by fishpaw

Trump isn't a victim and this isn't remotely close to reality you stupid pile of s(*&.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 02:41 PM | Reply

"One is realistic thinking and pragmatism, the other is cultish devotion to an idiot."

Well, sir, if you've been paying attention, I have zero ----- to give when it comes to Trump.

But Trump is on the periphery. I'm more concerned about the future of the region.

The same act that created Israel also laid the ground for a Palestinian state. You can say that the Palestinians ------ that up, but I think you can lay most of the blame on the Arab neighbors. I'm hoping it will work out, but I don't have a ton of confidence.

#72 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 04:21 PM | Reply

"As with nearly everything on this topic, you could replace Palestinian with Israelis in that paragraph and it will be just as true."

Not really. In 1970, Israel was about twice the size it is now. They gave up the Sinai to Egypt in return for a peace treaty.

You knew that, right?

#73 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 04:23 PM | Reply

"Knowing the conditions before 10/7, I can't blame them."

You can't blame murder and rape and the killing of babies? Not as collateral damage, but intentionally.

JFC, you make the SS look like choirboys. Even those monsters had some laws.

Hamas is more like ISIS.

Where were you when the west was bombing them? They could have used your support.

#74 | Posted by madbomber at 2025-10-09 04:27 PM | Reply

Not really. In 1970, Israel was about twice the size it is now.

#73 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Occupied territory, never formally annexed.

#75 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-09 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


Occupied territory, never formally annexed.
#75 | Posted by Zed

That's because they planned to give it back in hopes of peace.

Land for Peace ... they were stupid to believe that.

#76 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-09 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The same act that created Israel also laid the ground for a Palestinian state.
#72 | Posted by madbomber

Does that matter, when Israel does not support the existence of a Palestinian state?

Knesset votes 71-13 for non-binding motion calling to annex West Bank
Symbolic resolution calls West Bank inseparable part of the Land of Israel'; critics say it reflects misplaced priorities as PA calls it dangerous escalation'
www.timesofisrael.com
#60 | Posted by snoofy

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-09 05:13 PM | Reply

My fear is that if all of the hostages, both living and dead, are returned, that Netanyahu will see this as a green light to destroy what's left of a Gaza, if for no other reason than to create the opportunity where Jared Kushner and his Saudi investors will be able to come in and develop what Trump has always seen as the ideal location for a world class Mediterranean Luxury Resort complete with golf courses and condo villages, not for the Palestinians of course, but for the rich and famous. The Palestinians will just need to find some other place to live, or they can become the a 'servant class' for those who will now be occupying what was once their home.

OCU

#78 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-10-09 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not really. In 1970, Israel was about twice the size it is now. They gave up the Sinai to Egypt in return for a peace treaty.

You knew that, right?

#73 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Vaguely remember that as being part of the Arab war.

But it's disingenuous to say they were twice the size since it wasn't really theirs.

Which is why they bartered it for peace.

#79 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 06:48 PM | Reply

Land for Peace ... they were stupid to believe that.

#76 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

When was the last time they were attacked by Egypt?

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 06:49 PM | Reply

You can say that the Palestinians ------ that up, but I think you can lay most of the blame on the Arab neighbors

With a healthy portion going to Israel as well.

There are no clean hands in that dumpster fire.

#81 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 06:50 PM | Reply

A Gaza peace plan is a one sided negotiation where Palestinians are expected to simply capitulate to all of Israel's demands.

Fact is, the last several peace negotiations have been used by Israel to kill Palestinians in Gaza.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-09 06:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#81

I've said that there are no good guys in this fight since forever; state terrorists and terrorist states, and manipulative wealthy self-interested neighbors and supporters.

The latter including Muslim and arrogant Arab neighbors, Russian and Chinese and American Interests, and in America, a totally misguided religious support that still sees Israel as THE Holy Land, when the rest of Christianity and their scholars try to tell them that, doctrinally, since JC, ALL the earth is holy, not just Israel.

Of course, many rwing Jews in Israel still believe they alone are the Chosen People, and certainly act like they DESERVE respect they haven't earned.

#83 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-09 07:06 PM | Reply

But it's disingenuous to say they were twice the size since it wasn't really theirs.

It was won in a war where 5 Arab countries tried to destroy them in a sneak attack. Israel came back and kicked their asses. I wouldn't have given the land back.

Muslims are scum.

#84 | Posted by boaz at 2025-10-09 07:07 PM | Reply

- Muslims are scum.

See? There's a good MAGAnite Christian attitude right there, Christian or not.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-09 07:10 PM | Reply

Muslims are scum.

#84 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Let's do a basic logic proof.

Muslims are scum.

Boaz is scum.

Ergo, Boaz is a Muslim.

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-09 07:19 PM | Reply

It was won in a war where 5 Arab countries tried to destroy them in a sneak attack. Israel came back and kicked their asses. I wouldn't have given the land back.
Muslims are scum.

#84 | Posted by boaz

God, these MAGAt Pedos sure are dumb.

You're talking about the Six Day War...

...WHICH STARTED WHEN ISRAEL INVADED THE SUEZ CANAL!

You stupid Pedo lying piece of racist trash, Israel didn't get invaded. ISRAEL DID THE FUCKING INVADING!

#87 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-10-09 07:35 PM | Reply

White men indoctrinated Boaz to look down upon, dehumanize and hate all Muslims the same way their ancestors indoctrinated other white people to look down upon, dehumanize and hate all blacks.

Put Boaz back in 1860 and you'd find him toiling in some cotton field while whipping his own back.

#88 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2025-10-09 07:43 PM | Reply

#88

Nerfherder Lives!

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-09 07:50 PM | Reply

The hostages are coming home.

Is there just nothing to celebrate for some people?

#90 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is for my Lumpers, finally made it to YouTube ...

as always a great Chinese high school instructor lays out the yellow brick road, that all Chinese kids are taught.

Putins Strategic imagination.
youtu.be

Americans are so ignorant.

#91 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-09 08:13 PM | Reply


- Muslims are scum.

Only immigrant Muslims. Ask the Spanish, Chinese, Indians.

#92 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-09 08:13 PM | Reply


White men indoctrinated Boaz to look down upon, dehumanize and hate all Muslims the same way their ancestors indoctrinated other white people to look down upon, dehumanize and hate all blacks.
~ PimpleHead

Such a parochial American perspective, a perfect example suicidal empathy ...

#93 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-09 08:16 PM | Reply

- suicidal empathy ..

Says sociopathic obtusity.

#94 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-09 08:25 PM | Reply

The hostages are coming home.

Bombing the West Bank can then begin in earnest.

#95 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-09 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pump,

"White men indoctrinated Boaz to look down upon, dehumanize and hate all Muslims"

So long as Muslims don't impose their noises and inconvenient prayer times interrupting anyone else and the plethora of other rituals on the rest of America, I don't see a problem.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- their noises and inconvenient prayer times

Well... that certainly explains the genocide thingy.

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-09 08:41 PM | Reply

Maybe Christians should start banging pots and pans every quarter hour.

Say its a newly found sacred tradition thats been overlooked.

Its to scare the evil spirits away.

#98 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:52 PM | Reply

But must be done outside so evil spirits can hear it.

#99 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:54 PM | Reply

Interestingly, the sacred law just happens to coincide with local noise ordinances that have morning and evening times set.

#100 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:56 PM | Reply

"I think that President Trump was brilliant, taking Hamas' answer... he took it and not only [saw] an opportunity, but created an opportunity."
~ Israeli Foreign Minister

Crazy.

#101 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-09 08:57 PM | Reply

Maybe Christians should start banging pots and pans every quarter hour.

They've settled on trying to legally force people to live to their Christian values.

#102 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-09 08:57 PM | Reply

BillJohnson, if you were any smarter, you'd still be the dumbest guy on the planet.

#103 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2025-10-09 08:59 PM | Reply

Alex,

Next will be banning women from wearing make-up or cutting their hair.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-10-09 08:59 PM | Reply

Its to scare the evil spirits away.

The people you vote for?

#105 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-10-09 08:59 PM | Reply

sacred law just happens to coincide with local noise ordinances that have morning and evening times set.

Are either based on sunrise/sunset times? My local noise bylaw runs from 22:00 to 0800 all year.

#106 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-09 09:44 PM | Reply

Phase 1 of what is most likely a complex deal. While I do find this encouraging it's way too early to get too excited. Let's see if ALL phases work and see how long any deal lasts.

#107 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-10-09 09:59 PM | Reply

While I do find this encouraging it's way too early to get too excited.

We'll know if it was successful by the end of business tomorrow.

#108 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-10-09 10:02 PM | Reply

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