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"We Should All Be Epstein Conspiracy Theorists Now" My take on Trump and Epstein, and the pretty stunning email from Epstein suggesting he could bring down Trump. From this morning's Zeteo 'First Draft' morning newsletter. Read/share/subscribe:

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-- Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan.bsky.social) Nov 17, 2025 at 8:26 AM

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Yeah, now that they are coming out anyway, he's all for releasing them.

Could this bimbo be more obvious?

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-16 10:31 PM | Reply

Yeah, now that they are coming out anyway, he's all for releasing them.

The Master of -------- is in full blown panic damage control mode.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-16 10:47 PM | Reply

I think this means the MTG gets to be on top tonight...

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-16 11:03 PM | Reply

MTG gets to be on top tonight...

Frighteningly enough, she does seem to be calling the shots.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-16 11:07 PM | Reply

Epstein taco?

#5 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-16 11:30 PM | Reply

#5

With Special Sauce/

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-16 11:31 PM | Reply

Epstein taco?

He had two choices:

1) Take an ego hit when they vote against him, or

2) Pretend it was his wish all along.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-16 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Epstein taco?

Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-16 11:30 PM | Reply

More like a brown taco.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-16 11:35 PM | Reply

Two points:

1. Unless there's persuasive evidence to the contrary, it may be best to assume the files have been diddled with during the time they were going to be released, then not, the ongoing coverup, and now (coverup still in place).

2. The House Republicans must have produced one helluva whip count on the upcoming vote, with support for Trump's coverup position eroding as in-district voters grabbed their pitchforks and lit up the torches

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-17 05:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Wow. Dammmed if he does and dammned if he doesnt.

Now he says "Release the files", and since his name is probably not in them about child pedophilia and the best you people can come up with is the files were scrubbed? Dont want to admit Trump hasnt diddled kids, do you? Ah, but the issue probably is ALOT of Democrats and other ARE in them and Trump was just also protecting THEM as well in secret.

You progressives whining about "release the files", thinking it's going to stop Trump and you probably have doomed your favorite politicians in the process.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 06:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

You progressives whining about "release the files", thinking it's going to stop Trump and you probably have doomed your favorite politicians in the process.

#10 | Posted by boaz

You don't understand what it is to hold a moral position on things.

I don't have a "favorite" politician who sexually exploits kids.

You do.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 06:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Now he (Trump) says "Release the files""

1) Because the man is long past desperate.

2) Because he thinks the release will fail in the Senate.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 06:39 AM | Reply

re: #10 Boaz

He's a horrible person who says and does horrible things, and he's going to burn in hell. Damn him all day everyday

#13 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-11-17 06:48 AM | Reply

You do.

#11 | Posted by Zed

No, I dont. So says Esptein victims.

Clinton, tho.....Well....

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 07:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Because he thinks the release will fail in the Senate.

And it will be interesting when we see the letters next to those names in the Senate. I wonder if you will have the same smoke for those (D)'s who vote to not release...

I doubt it.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 07:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

And it will be interesting when we see the letters next to those names in the Senate.

5 | Posted by boaz

Why yes, yes, BOAZ, it surely will.

You understand none of this.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 07:19 AM | Reply

No, I dont. So says Esptein victims.

What? Like 3 of 1000 of them?

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-17 08:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump changed course for the same reason he always does.

He doesn't know WTF he's doing. TACO.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-17 08:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He (Trump) doesn't know WTF he's doing.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite

A viable theory.

It is also possible that Donald has manufactured the delusion that he is entirely innocent.

After all, the man is crazy.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 08:16 AM | Reply

I don't think Trump has ever been competent as a businessman or a politician. He's surrounded by nefarious people using him for their own ends. (see- heritage foundation and project 2025)

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-17 08:18 AM | Reply

Trump is guided by the people who wrote project 2025, which i can guarantee you he's never read.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-17 08:18 AM | Reply

Ol' bozo done got dizzy from all the spinning.

#22 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-17 08:26 AM | Reply

It's also funny how ol' bozo has completely reduced himself to "Uncle Tom".

#23 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-17 08:29 AM | Reply

Trump's just doing what a lot of politicians do: find a parade and get out in front of it!

#24 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-11-17 10:04 AM | Reply

The sudden change of mind leads me to believe that they've finally had enough time to hide what ever they think needed to be hidden.

#25 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-11-17 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#25 ... The sudden change of mind leads me to believe that they've finally had enough time to hide what ever they think needed to be hidden. ...

Either that, or they have another plan to infinitely delay the release.

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-17 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Either that, or they have another plan to infinitely delay the release.

Amazing how progressives will accept nothing short of Trump is a pedo, no matter how much evidence to the contrary.

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 01:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#27 There is no "evidence to the contrary."

Or, is this "evidence to the contrary" in the room with you, right now?

Can you hear this "evidence to the contrary" whispering to you, right now?

Enquiring minds want to know.

#28 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-17 01:14 PM | Reply

@#27 ... Amazing how progressives will accept nothing short of Trump is a pedo ...

FTFY ...

Amazing how progressives want nothing short of justice for the victims, no matter who is caught up in attaining it.


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-17 01:14 PM | Reply

Amazing how progressives will accept nothing short of Trump is a pedo, no matter how much evidence to the contrary.

#27 | Posted by boaz

Trump's approval ratings are WAY underwater and still sliding. Americans aren't happy with his job performance or Trump and his servants stonewalling on releasing the Epstein files.

FYI: Though Trump claimed he ended their friendship years ago over Epstein poaching his employees, according to newly released emails Epstein was still a Thanksgiving guest of Trump in 2017.

Trump wouldn't have been so adamant about keeping Epstein's files secret unless he had something to hide.

It's entirely plausible his recalcitrance was a stalling maneuver so the hundreds of FBI agents Bondi and Patel tasked with identifying mentions of Trump's name in the DOJ Epstein files have been sufficiently scrubbed of incriminatory info on Trump and those close to him about Epstein ...

and maybe nefarious Russian bank transactions too.

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-11-17 01:31 PM | Reply

One of the DR's fascinations has always been Boaz and how a person so poorly educated (which has nothing to do with politics) can function in society. Frankly it scared me when he was in Central Asia, thinking that someone so dumb could be anywhere near US weapons systems.

But his willful dumbness and absent morality have hit the complete skids these days.

People who are way too proud of their own opinions to consider altering them in the face of facts: today's GOP.

And there's not a damn conservative on this site who can argue for Trump's policies logically, if that's possible, without getting into homoerotic fantasies or accusations.

Boaz, I don't care what you think of what I've written, but I hope you read it.

You first came on my radar when you were collecting taxpayer money in the armed services and wrote on the DR you'd just heard about a place the US owned called the Virgin Islands. You unabashed ignorance / poor education floored me. At least you're consistent.

#31 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-17 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He had two choices:
1) Take an ego hit when they vote against him, or
2) Pretend it was his wish all along.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL

Option 3:
Support release of the files while having the DoJ open a new investigation that blocks the release of a portion of the files (anything that makes Trump or other republicans looks bad) and then spin the rest of it in an attempt to hurt democrats.

#32 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-17 01:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Apparently there are 100 republicans in the HoR who are planning on voting to release the Epstein files. Trump can't stop it and is simply accepting the reality of what will happen.

If Trump really wanted to release the Epstein files right now he could, if he actually wanted to.

I have my suspicions Trump and his lapdog, Pam Bondi, have already gone through the Epstein files to alter them.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-17 01:56 PM | Reply

I could agree with you Lamp,

But it's the progressives hated of Trump that's pushing this, and I fear there's nothing there, which is going to piss progressives off even more.

#34 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 01:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"I fear there's nothing there"

Massie thinks that we'll find that Trump is protecting family, friends, and donors.

That will be more than enough.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 01:59 PM | Reply

#34 Don't be absurd. It has zero to do with progressives (or anyone else's well-deserved and well-sourced) "hatred" of the Trump.

It has everything to do with the pure poison so-called conservatives have said about "progressives." Especially where your ilk was 100% convinced that the elites and Democrats and progressives are ALL pedophiles. You know, basements in pizza restaurants (which have no basements), where all those elites and Democrats and progressives and Hillary are all molesting children for fun and then drinking their blood in some kind of deranged way of staying young.

Nope. The people who are most pissed off are your ilk, not progressives. The Trump promised them that he would bust wide open the entire elite/liberal/progressive cabal that's abusing their children.

That, my confused friend, is who will be pissed off the most. Your ilk.

Meanwhile, we progressives can just sit back, munch on our popcorn, and watch and laugh as you and your ilk continue your impotent defense of pedophiles... and those pledged to protect pedophiles.

#36 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-17 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I fear there's nothing there
#34 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Must be why Trump has been fighting releasing it so adamantly.

Remember when he tried to pretend the Epstein Files were nothing more than a Democratic Hoax.

Chicken Little Donnie cried, "Democratic Hoax" so much, it's lost all meaning.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-17 02:09 PM | Reply

Must be why Trump has been fighting releasing it so adamantly.

The Bullshitter in Chief is losing control of his Narrative.

The meltdown is going to be epic.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-17 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Must be why Trump has been fighting releasing it so adamantly.

Isnt the Trump admin the only ones who have released anything concerning Epstein?

#39 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-17 02:27 PM | Reply

#39 | Posted by boaz

That boy been kicked in th' head by a mule.

#40 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-17 02:41 PM | Reply

Isnt the Trump admin the only ones who have released anything concerning Epstein?
#39 | POSTED BY BOAZ

They released the soul from his body when they had him killed.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-17 02:52 PM | Reply

Isnt the Trump admin the only ones who have released anything concerning Epstein?

#39 | POSTED BY BOAZ

He's released stuff we already have.

Oe reason he's in trouble.

Turns out that some even in MAGA have a limit to being played.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-17 02:55 PM | Reply

@#34 ... But it's the progressives hated of Trump that's pushing this ...

Pushing what?

Releasing the Epstein files was a Trump campaign mantra. He and the MAGA base were the ones who wanted them released.

Then, once Pres Trump won the Oval Office and his AG Bondi was able to see what was actually in the files, Pres Trump suddenly started preventing their release.


#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-17 03:01 PM | Reply

- the progressives hated of Trump that's pushing this

Apparently House Republicans beg to disagree... and Thomas Massie and MTG (Rs) led the charge.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-17 03:08 PM | Reply

But it's the progressives hated of Trump that's pushing this

Boaz accidentally admits MAGA has zero interest in revealing who these high powered pedophiles in the Epstein files are.

One has to wonder why.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-17 03:08 PM | Reply

I just returned from the future. Here's Trump's final MAGA rally. Trump is not in the photo, but Boaz is pictured, back right, beneath the tree, next to the empty Flavor-Aid cup:

Final MAGA Rally

#46 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2025-11-17 03:11 PM | Reply

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