Cares not as they are all ILLEGAL ALIENS and by law should be removed form out country.
#12 | Posted by MSgt

Cares not that the act of residing in the country without status is largely a civil infraction rather than an ongoing criminal offense, and the unauthorized entry is considered a federal misdemeanor.

Re 17

Of course it matters. You are locking up humans in a concentration camp like animals for the equivalent of a traffic ticket.

If you want open borders, how about changing the laws?

You will need to define "open borders".

If you wish to tighten immigration laws then do that. Congress would be the place to do that.

I think there was even a half hearted effort to do that recently until Trumpy killed the bill. For political reasons.

Is that why I get stopped at the French-German border for a credentials check?

Because colonialism?

...

You get stopped because of the massive influx of immigrants and refugees. And the resultant increased fear of terrorism and threats to public safety.

Maybe you should ask yourself why there is a massive influx of immigrants and increased threat from terrorists and threats to public safety.

You may find the reasons point back to colonialism as colonization often directly creates the conditions that drive immigration and refugee crises, linking these concepts through themes of displacement, power dynamics, and the search for safety.

I remember a time when crossing European borders easily without ever being stopped to show my papers was the norm.

What happened? Wars and massive instability and social upheaval happened.

In 2024, the vast majority of illegal immigrants coming across the European borders were from Syria and Afghanistan. Third was Mali.

Are you actually claiming those are stable countries?

And there are policies regarding asylum seekers, but you have to follow them.
#21 | Posted by madbomber

Tens of thousands of asylum-seekers are still being detained and prosecuted despite following legal pathways to remain in the United States.

We need immigrants, or our GDP goes down 1%.

We need immigrants, or our GDP goes down 1%.

And so will your SS payments.

The Social Security retirement trust fund is now projected to be depleted in late 2032, one year earlier than previously projected. Stricter immigration policies and increased deportations are significant factors, as reduced immigration means fewer workers paying into the system to support retirees.

That's only 6 years. Or 1.5 Presidents away.

Weren't the several groups of migrants with special status classified as asylum seekers until Trump changed their status just so they could call them illegal and deport them?

#39 | POSTED BY JPW

The Trump administration systematically revoked or suspended legal protections for hundreds of thousands of migrants, stripping them of lawful humanitarian parole and asylum-seeker statuses so they could be classified as undocumented and deported.

And there are policies regarding asylum seekers, but you have to follow them.

If they attempt to follow those "policies" they are detained and deported. "Hundreds of thousands.."

I am curious. How do you justify that in your mind?

I am curious. How do you justify that in your mind?

#43 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

That was directed to madbummer.

Why not go to one of the other 39?

I don't live and vote in the other 39 countries. For a reason.

This America. We set the example for those countries. Correction: We USED to set an example.

We used to set the standard for what a democracy and human compassion should look like for those other 39 countries and everyone else on earth.

Not any more. Obviously.

Because Trumpy "changed the policy". And you are loving it. But safely from a distance. Apparently.

Do you propose the US adopt and open-border policy?

#58 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Aren't the borders open now?

I ask you to define what "open borders" means specifically. Otherwise we cannot discuss it reasonably.

You do know that (immigration policy and law) is the job of the United States Congress. Right?

Which refuses or is incapable of doing its job. And the latest weak effort was completely blocked by Trumpy and his "policy". For political purposes.

A policy of hate and cruelty and revenge and retribution.

Great frigging policy eh?

It's just curious why they choose an illegal path, when so many legal ones exist.

Not curious at all.

Because it's a lie that "so many" legal paths exist and you either know it or are an ignant fool.

Even the legal paths that still exist are no longer safe paths in America. You can be detained and deported while AT THE COURTHOUSE. While filing legal documents. Attempting to follow a "legal path". And you sit there and "wonder"? Immigrants don't wonder at all. They know. And respond accordingly.

Between late 2024 and the end of 2025, the administration stripped protections"such as Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and humanitarian parole"from over 1.5 million immigrants who had previously entered through legal means.

What incentive do immigrants have to follow "legal paths" when they will just be arrested when they show up to the court house?

Hate cruelty and revenge and retribution are not democratic policies.

somehow afforded to come to the US.

#74 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Fear for your life and the life of your children will make you do things you never thought you could do.

It's always been closed.

The border is not closed.

What does "closed" mean? Traffic is going thru the border right now. So it's obviously not "closed".

"It's always been closed."

No it has not. And I think I see what you mean by "close. Closed to immigrants.

We have had different immigration policies at different times in our history. You chose one.

I chose another ... which easily proves you wrong.

Early leaders viewed an open-door policy as vital to building a new nation. The Homestead Act of 1862 actively solicited European immigrants by granting cheap land tracts to settlers. Shortly after, Congress passed the Act to Encourage Immigration of 1864 to meet severe labor shortages during the Civil War.

Re 80

We don't have to even go back that far. We only have to go back to 50s with the Bracero Program when actively sought immigrants from Mexico.

The program brought millions of Mexican guest workers to the United States for short-term agricultural contracts to fill critical labor shortages.

The program reached its absolute highest volume during the 1950s, bringing in over 400,000 legal workers annually by the middle of the decade.

You think ICE agents are emotionally involved in the arrests they make?

You don't think the adrenaline is pumping?

Renee Goodman

Alex Petti

Watch the videos. See the emotions.

The policy of hate revenge and retribution comes from the top.

And trickles down to the troops. You should know this.

Correction re 87:

Renee Goode (typo)

It's like driving. You don't just get to drive because you want to drive. And I'm sure you can agree that police should not be able to grant drivers the right to drive without valid credentials, just because they are good drivers.

POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Sure ... just like driving?!

Driving violations are civil infractions. Hmm just like most immigration violations!

Drivers who violate traffic laws are not arrested beaten thrown in detention centers separated from their families and children and then sent to a country they have never been in and cannot even speak the language.

Most Immigrants are humans trapped by the human condition and do not deserve to be treated like animals and locked in cages.

Re 91

thank you. Did not edit that well.

They were not obligated to fuck around. They chose to.

#90 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

They were protesting against the inhumane treatment of other humans. They were not "fucking around".

Yeah. The guy she ran in to.

#94 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Pushed hard enough the truth of what you believe always come out.

She did not "run into" anyone.

You believe in lies.

Sorry to hear that.

"Well are you saying they shouldn't get Due Process?"

WTF are you babbling about?

I am saying that the immigrants who have civil infractions should be also treated like drivers who have civil infractions.

Why treat immigrants with cruel and unusual punishments for civil infractions? Unless your policy is to treat immigrants cruelly. In order to frighten the other immigrants.

If your boss calls them "human garbage" that's how he expected you to treat them. .

Yes. It's bad when immigrants violate civil laws. And they should be held accountable.

It is way worse when ICE violates state and federal laws and the US constitution. And they should be also held accountable.

You can't even ten percent explain them, kiddo!

#109 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Because it's maga logic.

To believe maga logic you must also believe in maga lies.

That's a policy issue, but here in Germany, there are civil infractions that will get me booted out of the country. Like not having valid entry credentials.

#112 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

This is not Germany. I like the Germans. (Now)

But as long as I live this will never be Germany.