You know what I worry about most in a place to live? Inclusiveness! Hahahahahahahaha

Quality of life is just better in the south. That's why people are moving here.

#12 | Posted by THEBULL

People are moving to the south because reaganomics has failed and they're out of money and out of options.

The south is the trailer park of america. No one wants to live in 95 degree weather with 95 percent humidity and mosquitos the size of birds.

My daughter lives in the Uptown part of Dallas. Very hip, young professional enclave. Very close to the SMU campus, Highland Park, etc. All her friends are from other parts of the South or a recent grad taking on their first real job, like her.

#16 | Posted by eberly

Yeah that's because the less ------ people in the south move to the urban meccas in the south to escape the southern experience as much as possible. If they could afford to move to coastal CA and had friends and contacts there, no intelligent person would choose the south.

18. A usually reliable poster being irrational.

Have you ever lived in the South?

Do you think friends and contacts anywhere make it easier to live somewhere, especially when they are among the wealthiest people on earth who can afford every luxury?

And have it all wiped away in a mudslide overnight? No thanks.

And sure, I'd love to move to Uruguay. Or Amsterdam. Or maybe even back near the NC mountains.

But choice in life sometimes is limited by circumstances way beyond one's control.

#20 | Posted by Dbt2

I grew up in the south. That's how I know it sucks.

And yes, friends and contacts are everything. It prevents a ton of people from leaving the ------ place they were born and moving to a better place where they wouldnt know anyone. That's why my brother is still there. Also he's a freak who enjoys humidity.

Ironically, it was the NC mountains that were recently wiped away in a hurricane, not the CA coast.

I'd take what happened to people I know in Spruce Pine, NC, any day over what happened to people I know in the Pacific Palisades, and which events are forecast to continue there, along with wildfires, earthquakes, etc.

I grew up in New York City, went South in 1977, never returned, and New York would have been the logical course for my line of work. To each their own. No regrets.

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And yes, Eberly, by reliable, I mean that I usually agree with Speaks' content and enjoy their perspective.

#26 | Posted by Dbt2

It wasn't just spruce pine. A former classmate was killed in a flooding river near lake lure trying to save kids at a christian camp. Hurricanes aren't going to stop. Nor are heat domes. It's all going to get worse, just like the wildfires in the west. Nowhere is safe from the consequences of decades of conservative leadership destroying the climate.

You can choose a place that is always humid and bug infested and gets occasional hurricanes and tornados, and I'll choose a place that has the best climate in the country and gets occasional wildfires.

At least CA has people in charge who want to address climate change, whereas NC is full of morons who call climate change a hoax and literally cosplay as confederate soldiers on the weekend.

Pacific Palisades is an example of very risky behavior with regards to wildfire management.

#29 | Posted by eberly

Pacific Palisades is an example of how nowhere is safe from the climate change caused by decades of conservative leadership.

No one can "manage" a fire tornado.

We COULD HAVE managed C02 levels, resulting in fewer fire tornados, but exxon had too much power over your party.

If CA wanted to address climate change then Nuclear power would be the answer, but as some Lumper stated, then all the other "control" of the economy wouldn't be possible.

#31 | Posted by oneironaut

CA is using tons of nuclear fool. I have nuclear energy collection panels on my house and my electric bill is usually zero. My car is fueled by sunshine.

This is what it's like to live in a state not run by oil puppets.

As a bonus, evolution is taught as a fact in our schools, instead of just an opinion like in texas.

Speaks, care to speak of conditions in inland California, aside from your idyll?

#44 | Posted by Dbt2

In the desert? It's a desert. Plenty of dumb trumpers there who whine about california and cant afford to leave the desert, yet still don't want to move to the swampy southeast to be among more of their kind.

I've driven through the rural areas of the South....yikes,..no thanks. It's not a secret and none of us hardly need a study like this to educate us on what challenges exist in the South. It's been debated here a million times already anyway.

#45 | Posted by eberly

Why what's wrong with it? That's where trump's most passionate support comes from after all.

Are you saying his supporters are a type of people you wouldnt want to live among?

why St. Louis is the ----------, crime infestation it's become. But upthread he's pretending like the GOP is causing all those problems.

#73 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Oh crime is bad now? Since when?

Besides being flat and plain, old and worn out, the people there were like slave labor zombies; all hope lost. It was very sad to see.

#75 | Posted by Corky

You get what you vote for.

Nice little weekend in E. St Louis

www.usatoday.com

#77 | Posted by lfthndthrds

A nice little wednesday in DC:

Issue in this country isn't red/blue. It's urban/rural.

Speaks sounds more like Boaz, who presumes that drum-beating librulz in WNC got what was coming to them.

Yeah, Silicon Valley is nice work if you can get it. And Pacific Palisades, if you can get there.

What about the teachers who have to live in the desert just to get by?

#80 | Posted by Dbt2

Youre right about that. But notice the places where the urban voters set the policies thrive more economically. The places where rural voters set the policies, everyone gets dragged down.

Which goes back to my point - the south is where you go when you're out of money and options.
If youre smart and can afford it, you move to places that aren't dragged down by magats and christofascists.

always has. Turns every single discussion into the same "my side good....your side bad" dynamic.

Exactly like Boaz.

#82 | Posted by eberly

Ever since your side became the cult of a fascist con man and attempted a coup, it's been a very clear binary choice for anyone with an ounce of intelligence of patriotism.

I predict another fire similar to that one in the near future.

There are too many days of the year with high winds and very low humidity that it's likely to happen again soon.

#87 | Posted by eberly

Thank you conservative oil puppets!

Why do you expect me to defend the GOP any more than someone might expect you to?

#91 | Posted by eberly

Because for some reason you attack the people who point out that dems are way better.

I used to assign 1 additional IQ point to Clown over speakstupid.

I'm afraid I can't do that anymore.

short bus for both of them.

#92 | Posted by eberly

Here come the insults. This thread will now devolve into another ALL ABOUT EBERLY thread. Yawn.

I address people on "issues"...I don't attack them unless they attack me first.

#97 | Posted by eberly

LOL...7 posts earlier:

I used to assign 1 additional IQ point to Clown over speakstupid.

I'm afraid I can't do that anymore.

short bus for both of them.

#92 | Posted by eberly

this is the part where you start tapdancing or call me gay/female

Some of you love California and I wouldn't take a chit in California ( already being done in the street )..

. ..We should embrace those different cultures rather that being YOU PEOPLE... IE: hate mongering bigots... And think the other leftist pinko commies here will " like you " by running down other " cultures" and contrary political ideas.

#99 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Name one communist here and what communist policies they propose.
Youre a trained dog who's been taught to bark COMMUNIST just like 4 years ago they trained you to bark GROOMER. But that became awkward after your cult leader appeared all over the epstein files. So now it's "communist" as you keep trying to stuff the epstein files under the rug.