Brass,

"Why is implementation eight weeks before an election....you have to agree that's a recipe for disaster"

Yes..it could be.

We're just talking about mailing them out and people mailing them back. Eight weeks is still enough time. Probably.

As I understand it, the USPS has their part in place.

Now it's just waiting on the Supreme Court and I'm not counting on them actually deciding soon.

Hopefully states are working on their lists.

Dan,

"representation to go with the taxation."

I think that's a whole different thread.

Dan,

"Meanwhile, giving someone else in the chain a responsibility INCREASES the chances for inaccuracy."

This "responsibility" will not be given to people.

It will be software and computers and of course, AI.

Dan,

You really are obsessed with fraud.

Try looking beyond your nose and see there is a lot more to be concerned with than just fraud.

Laura,

"Let's get down to brass tacks shall we. It's just Republicans trying to gum up the system in their favor is all this is. Nothing more than that."

I'm sorry you think keeping more accurate records is gumming up the system.

Republicans want to see all states be held to the same high standards of transparent tracking voter eligibility and ballot integrity.

And Democrats want something else.

Dan,

"And what problems has that caused to date?"

I suspect similar questions have been asked as voting rights have evolved.

Dan,

"Mailed ballots are tracked, serialized, watermarked, and more. Your ignorance on the subject is no reason to suppress 1000x the number of possible fraudulent votes."

Not uniformly across all states.

And even the ones that do, it would not provide the same level of tracking as the new proposed systems.

Jpw,

"Just STFU and stop acting as if wiping your ass with the constitution is "intelligent.""

I am wondering what others "think" (the operative word here) about how the ballots would be handled under these new policies.

It seems pretty fair to me. It would provide better tracking and accountability while helping identify ballots that were lost, delayed or otherwise unaccounted for.

Would solve a lot of problems (except the constitution problem people want to exploit so states will be able to cheat)

Laura,

"Who knew that following the Constitution was political ranting?"

Apparently, the English comprehension skills in this thread are lacking.

Plainly, I am asking about the merits of the new processes for handling mailed ballots.

That sentence seems to be going over some heads here.

Doc,

The states would still conduct their own elections and determine who is eligible to vote.

The USPS rule would establish uniform tracking and accountability standards only for federal ballots going through the Postal Service.

Not every state applies the same safeguards to voting by mail. This rule would provide greater assurance of fairness by ensuring that ballots going through USPS are subject to the same tracking and accountability standards in every state.

Doc,

I see you can't have an intelligent conversation.

Just political rantings.

Doc,

"U.S. Constitution, States and Elections Clause, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 " Constitution.congress.gov"

I'm only asking if I got the process details correct.

Just setting the constitutional question aside for a moment, what do you have against the policy itself?

I think it's a great idea.

This is an upgrade to voting by mail.

This voting method would use modern tracking technology instead of the Pony Express.

The risk of fraud is only one concern being addressed. This system could prevent several possible problems at once.

The biggest improvement is tracking and accountability. Both the outgoing ballot envelope and the return envelope would have unique barcodes, giving election officials much better information about where each ballot is in the system and whether it was delivered or returned.

It would make the process operate more like traditional absentee voting in terms of identifying and tracking the ballots being mailed. States would decide who is eligible to vote and to receive a mailed ballot, and they would have to identify those voters and associate the ballot envelopes with them.

That also addresses the scenario I've talked about the most, which is a large number of ballots being lost or mishandled at one time. With individual tracking, officials would be much better able to determine which voters were affected and allow replacement ballots to be sent to the right people, possibly without the voter even being aware there had been a problem.

The intent is for this to become a nationwide USPS requirement for federal elections using mailed ballots, so that all states using the Postal Service would be operating under the same basic tracking requirements.

Like I've said repeatedly, about a month before the 2020 election I read how the expanded mail-in ballot system was going to work due to COVID and saw the makings of a calamity. There were too many potential bottlenecks and way too much human handling without adequate tracking and accountability to ensure valid ballots got where they were supposed to go to be counted.

One of the two injunctions has already been lifted by the US Supreme Court. The USPS rule is still blocked by the remaining injunction, and we're waiting to see whether that one is lifted as well.

Hopefully this solution will get a chance to be used.

(did I get the details correct? Someone correct me if I didn't)

As I understand it, one of the two injunctions has already been lifted by the US Supreme Court.

The USPS rule is still blocked by the remaining injunction, and we're waiting to see whether that one is lifted as well.

Dan,

Instead of just moaning and groaning about fraud, why not comment what you think about what I just posted (assuming I got the processes correct...someone correct me if I didn't)

What do you not like about it?

Are you still going to claim, voter suppression?

Dan,

Potential fraud isn't the only concern here. This system could address several possible problems at once.

The biggest improvement is tracking and accountability. Both the outgoing ballot envelope and the return envelope would have unique barcodes, giving election officials much better information about where each ballot is in the system and whether it was delivered or returned.

It would make the process operate more like traditional absentee voting in terms of identifying and tracking the ballots being mailed. States would decide who is eligible to vote and to receive a mailed ballot, and they would have to identify those voters and associate the ballot envelopes with them.

That also addresses the scenario I've talked about the most, which is a large number of ballots being lost or mishandled at one time. With individual tracking, officials would be much better able to determine which voters were affected and allow replacement ballots to be sent to the right people, possibly without the voter even being aware there had been a problem.

The intent is for this to become a nationwide USPS requirement for federal elections using mailed ballots, so that all states using the Postal Service would be operating under the same basic tracking requirements.

Like I've said repeatedly, about a month before the 2020 election I read how the expanded mail-in ballot system was going to work due to COVID and saw the makings of a calamity. There were too many potential bottlenecks and way too much human handling without adequate tracking and accountability to ensure valid ballots got where they were supposed to go to be counted.

The USPS rule is still not in force. Hopefully this solution will get a chance to be used.