Trump Wins | Drudge Retort

Wednesday, November 06, 2024

Donald Trump has defeated Kamala Harris to become the 47th president of the United States. Preliminary exit polls show Trump captured 63% of the rural vote, a notable increase from the 57% he won four years ago. Harris struggled to build on Joe Biden's urban support and narrowly lost suburban voters, a group Biden had previously won. The polls also indicate that Trump may have garnered a larger share of the Latino vote than any Republican since George W. Bush, with 45% support, up from 32% in 2020.

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Well democracy was fun while it lasted; we gave it a try.

Vivat Rex Trump

#1 | Posted by Regnum at 2024-11-06 08:44 AM

It's not Trump you have to worry about. It's whoever comes after him.

I raised this question elsewhere. Is there anything to stop JD Vance from naming his best bud Don Jr. to be VP when the time comes?

It's a big win for ---------- rape babies, since the rethugs have declared ------, rape and pedophilia to be the qualities they like in a leader.

Oh, and being a convicted felon is good too.

And a racist. And a liar. And a scumbag POS.

Is there anything to stop JD Vance from naming his best bud Don Jr. to be VP when the time comes?

I think the only one he can't name is Elon.

Is Biden claiming a stolen election?

I called it correctly last week and this week.
Still, a shame for America. We live in a nation neither savage nor wise.

We have become a richer, slightly more polished version of Russia, a corrupt oligarchy.

For those of you who voted for Trump:
in four years, when he has done nothing but made one ridiculous photo-op after another, ignored Russia's and China's military advances, broken our European alliances (again), hurt human rights and women's rights, and enriched himself at EVERY opportunity by bllling the USA taxpayer for his own hotels and properties, what will you say was "great again"?

Let the finger pointing begin:
Biden
Harris
Progressives
Moderates
Independents
DNC
Garland
Schumer
Young voters
Women voters
Muslim voters
The media
Bragg
Black voters
Messaging

When the simple fact of the matter is 50% of Americans chose the monster. They chose to destroy our country. They chose the economic collapse. They chose the deportation of millions. They chose corruption on an epic scale. They chose a nationwide abortion ban. They chose Project 2025. They chose a banding Ukraine. They chose a conservative Supreme Court for the next 60 years. They chose the destruction of the administrative state. They chose stripping women of their rights. They chose the military to put down dissent with the military and violence. They chose marching the us military into cities. They chose a DoJ pursuing a madman's agenda

They chose chaos

During a time of prosperity

They willingly believed lies.

American voters have no excuse to not know what that man is. None zero

May the American voter get everything they voted for

what a sad day for the world. I just cannot fathom that people are this dumb, but apparently they are.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrd

The only thing I will say to that lying tub of ---- will be when I piss on his grave.

I'll say, in my best Slovenian prostitute accent, 'no charge'.

May the American voter get everything they voted for

#9 | Posted by truthhurts

Absolutely.

As it says in the unopened and unread christian bible.....'if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out'.

in my best Slovenian prostitute accent

#11 | Posted by kudzu at 2024-11-06 09:03 AM | Reply |

Tell us more about what happened to the late missus

Thanks Democratic elite for foisting a Post Turtle upon us. What an abysmal candidate that she was.

"What an abysmal candidate that she was."

For all of her faults, she was nowhere near as bad as HRC.

I don't think there is any other way to say it. Donald Trump is the face of a majority of the American electorate now. His appeals to anger, fear, and resentment carried the day.

#9 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Take a midol.

It's worthwhile to notice who Trump's opponents were each time he won. America would rather destroy itself than elect a woman president.

poll after poll

Penn
Michigan
Wisconsin
etc....wasn't Harris leading in all those states?

WTF?

We lost an election, it's not a big deal. Get back to work.

He can't take abortion away right?

Adam Schiff is now a Senator. That's a good thing IMO/

For all of her faults, she was nowhere near as bad as HRC.
#16 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Hillary was a much better candidate. Harris was a manufactured. Hillary was smart, educated and worthy of being President..

His appeals to anger, fear, and resentment carried the day.

#18 | POSTED BY ANTON

Are you even reading this page?

Hillary was a much better candidate. Harris was a manufactured. Hillary was smart, educated and worthy of being President..

#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-06 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag

At least Hillary won her primary.

"she was nowhere near as bad as HRC."

Hillary won the popular vote.

I wasn't convinced women would carry the day.

I wasn't convinced they wouldn't either.

There were many here 100% positive women would carry this for Harris.

That didn't happen.

What did we miss?

Wow that was quick.

Houthi spokesman: Our operations in international waters were purely defensive, and we announce their final cessation
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...wasn't Harris leading in all those states?
#21 | Posted by eberly

I agree, this feels like cheating. When are the pubs going to start their investigations?

What did we miss?

#26 | POSTED BY EBERLY

IMO immigration killed the Democrats.

A county in Texas a majority Hispanic voted for Trump, hadn't voted republican sine 1897. My guess across the nation the border was the big issues.

What did we miss?

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-06 09:38 AM | Reply | Flag

You missed letting the people tell you who they wanted to vote for. Harris would've never been running for President had there been a primary. She was shoved on the party and they were told to like it.

Bone up on your Russian MAGA'ts as the USA just became a Russian satellite country, and yet you cheer. Like I've always said all MAGA't dirt roads lead to Russia. Russia stole this election.

Turns out campaigning on the promise of continuing a genocide while courting endorsements from war criminals like Dick Cheney is not a great way to get progressives to vote for you.

One of the best headlines I've seen said the working and middle class have spoken.

I wont believe it till the dumb lady cackles

Is there anything to stop JD Vance from naming his best bud Don Jr. to be VP when the time comes?

#3 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-11-06 08:52 AM | Reply | Flag

That's really cute, considering Harris never won a primary.

Liberals are in shock.

They didn't see it coming because they wear blinders fooling themselves believing their "truth" will prevail.

So called men would rather have a lying criminal traitor for President than any color woman.

Women should now sell their shoes and get pregnant, because that's what backwoods men voted for.

And this is the end of the Obama era.

Liberals are in shock.

They didn't see it coming because they wear blinders fooling themselves believing their "truth" will prevail.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 10:05 AM | Reply

The truth is that you support a 34 time convicted felon twice impeached insurrectionist traitor to the American ideals. Own it BillJohnson.

Ameria just set off a grenade under its own a**.

So called men would rather have a lying criminal traitor for President than any color woman.

Women should now sell their shoes and get pregnant, because that's what backwoods men voted for.

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-06 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Somebody took too many Geritols last night.

-So called men would rather have a lying criminal traitor for President than any color woman.

we counted on women to stop that.

they didn't.....apparently enough of them would rather have the same lying criminal traitor......

maybe we misjudged how much women care about how much we legislate their vaginas?

that's a question...not a statement. I really thought women appreciated the effort and appreciate the opportunity to vote for THEIR freedom and A WOMAN FOR POTUS!!!

Where the ---- did the women go? After Dobbs?

Where did the women go?

Corky,

People like you now need to dry up and blow away who want to bring up race or gender.

More than white men voted for Trump.

"The monsters are out on Maple Street." (So says the only group that would benefit no matter if it was a Democrat or a Republican in the White House)

They've already proven that they need on proof or facts, so I'm calling right now. I feel in my heart that's there is no way he won, I'm calling for a do over.

Liberals are in shock.

They didn't see it coming because they wear blinders fooling themselves believing their "truth" will prevail.

#37 | Posted by BillJohnson

As god made little green apples, ------- will eventually hurt someone you love dearly.

You will deny the damage and then blame liberals.

Enjoy your karma

All I can say is stupid is as stupid does in this case. Stupid Americans voted a man with no morals, the speaking ability of a 4th grader, most likely dimentia and extreme narcissism back into office.

Corky,

People like you now need to dry up and blow away who want to bring up race or gender.

More than white men voted for Trump.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

How many women will die as a result of a nationwide abortion ban?

www.cnn.com

Harris +10 vs Biden +15 and Clinton +13

Nevermind that women still prefer to vote for men (scratching head over that)

The first election AFTER Roe being dismantled and the WOMAN candidate vowing to restore those reproductive rights gets FEWER votes from women than the last 2??

...bring up race or gender.
#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

2016 vs. woman...wins
2020 vs. man...loses
2024 vs. woman...wins

We on this side like facts, those are facts.

Laura,

The "truth" is crazy progressive thinking is sinking the Democrats.

Own it? You mean the victory? Gladly!

This is a classic case of why Evil always wins.
Evil is evil to Good, but Good is good to Evil.
Uncle Joe should have locked him on the first day.

The "truth" is crazy progressive thinking is sinking the Democrats.

Own it? You mean the victory? Gladly!

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 10:20 AM |

Neither party is progressive you ignorant sap It's not a victory for America. That's for certain.

So called men would rather have a lying criminal traitor for President than any color woman.

Women should now sell their shoes and get pregnant, because that's what backwoods men voted for.

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-06 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

Sorry Dorky, abortions are up since R v Wade was overturned and the states voted to keep abortions legal. So enough of the abortion crap already. Your party had opportunities to codify it into law but didn't because if they did they couldn't raise money off it every friggin year.

Neither party is progressive you ignorant sap It's not a victory for America. That's for certain.

#54 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 10:23 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

The majority of this country don't agree with you.

So...this is who "we" are? Ride the wind...reap the whirlwind. The next four years will fundamentally--and irrevocably change this nation as TrumpCo lets their Project 2025 monsters off their chains. I thought "we" were smarter than this, but alas...

Where did the women go?

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-06 10:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

The ones that vote have been struggling to put food on the table for their family because of the economic situation. The DNC tried to quell that with drive-thru abortion and it didn't work. Both women and minorities are concerned more about their ability to feed and clothe their families than free abortion and LGBTQ hoopla. The DNC got it wrong.

Buying a home under Biden/Harris on average went up over to over $400,000
Interest rates on homes over 7%
Food and daily necessities doubled
Ukraine got more attention than Americans needs got met
Minorities now understand racial tension is driven by the politicians they USED TO SUPPORT
Unfettered illegal immigration

I can keep going but not many will listen. In fact, a lot will criticize the messenger rather than accept the reasons they lost.

At least Nerfherder is being a realist this morning.

How many women will die as a direct result of this election?

How many trans kids will kill themselves as a direct result of this election?

How many kids will be forcefully separated from their families as a direct result of this election?

Despite the stupidity of the American populace, -------- espoused policies are deeply unpopular.

Despite what ------- and some pundits say, Americans despise a family separation policy.

Despite what ------- and some pundits say, Americans DO NOT WANT a nationwide abortion. Even in Fl, 57% rejected a 6-week abortion ban.

Despite what ------- and some pundits say, the corrupt tariffs ------- will impose Americans will suffer economic hardships.

Despite what ------- and some pundits say, dismantling the ACA is going to be VERY unpopular.

Project 2025, with it's horrible approval rating will guide -------- administration.

74% of Americans do not want to restrict women's access to contraceptions
68% oppose firing of thousands of federal employees
62% oppose getting rid of the Dept of Education
52% oppose getting rid of investments in renewable energy

You idiots will be shocked at how quickly the pain comes to you.

-------- polices are deeply deeply unpopular

How many women will die as a result of a nationwide abortion ban?

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag

Last time I checked women make up 51% of the population

Apparently they're not buying that ---- anymore. Find a new squeaky toy.

The best we can hope for now is that, like last time, the Dotard won't keep any of his promises and the rubes won't care.

-------- polices are deeply deeply unpopular

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 10:30 AM | Reply

LOL A lot of people disagree

Lastly....legacy media is dying on the vine.

This election may be their waterloo unless they change their beliefs about certain races and classes of people and their preconceived notions and assumptions that they have exclusive understanding of "the truth".

I can't apologize enough to my children for this.

"inflation is transitory"

And

"I grew up in a middle class family"

I can keep going but not many will listen. In fact, a lot will criticize the messenger rather than accept the reasons they lost.

At least Nerfherder is being a realist this morning.

#58 | Posted by lfthndthrds

And what is the root cause of these problems? Inflation as a result of the impacts of Covid and the invasion of Ukraine. In other words, -------- and Putin's actions.

Biden was incredibly effective in helping America recover from their actions. AN ECONOMY THAT IS ENVY OF THE WORLD

America has just reelected the man mostly responsible for the inflation who has promised inflationary policies.

Red state America is going to be upset to learn that Biden's investment went mostly to red counties; when --------tarts pulling those investments and the jobs poof away.

Oh well, at least the right people will be getting hurt

Lastly....legacy media is dying on the vine.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson

You celebrate the demise of journalism to be replaced with the lies of ------- and the nazi free speech of Elon Musk.

Again, I will laugh at you when you suffer your karma.

Alex,

"I can't apologize enough to my children for this."

Apologize for what?

Causing it?

We're not going to put up with triumphant MAGA dorks telling Democrats to shut up here. It's a Democratic site where you're being allowed to have your say after your victory. Using that to attempt to silence Democrats is going to get you silenced.

Sorry Dorky, abortions are up since R v Wade was overturned and the states voted to keep abortions legal.

You are uninformed at best. Florida's abortion rate, for instance, has dropped 19% compared to 2023 due to the 6 week ban enacted MAY 1ST THIS YEAR 2024.

Last time I checked women make up 51% of the population

Apparently they're not buying that ---- anymore. Find a new squeaky toy.

#60 | Posted by lfthndthrds

See everyone, it is right there.

Women, apparently, are not dying as a result of abortion bans.

Shall I post the links?

Nah you're to stupid or evil to understand.

Women, you no longer matter in America, congrats

---- you, Bill. I voted for the prosecutor and you voted for a felonious rapist. Look in the mirror.

Everybody is going to have their favorite reason why Harris lost. I think Trump ran an absolutely terrible campaign and won anyway, which suggests that Biden's disapproval rating and anti-incumbent sentiment were far bigger reasons than anything else.

I won't continue lest I sound like I'm gloating.

But damn...I wasn't counting on such massive numbers.

BTW - what's up since Dobbs is infant mortality and maternal mortality rates. Nationwide the rate increase has been driven by red states.

Trump won because Americans care more about gas prices than the freedoms of other people.

LOL A lot of people disagree

#62 | Posted by lfthndthrds a

-------- immigration deportation policy is simply family separation on steroids. Or maybe you can explain how expelling undocumented parents with citizen children WON'T result in family separation

www.vox.com

Back when the policy was in effect.

Polls: Trump's family separation policy is very unpopular " except among Republicans
One finds 66 percent of Americans opposed and only 27 percent in favor.

Trump won because Americans care more about gas prices than the freedoms of other people.

#77 | Posted by Alexandrite a

I paid $2.50 a gallon a couple days ago.

Americans are stupid

And what is the root cause of these problems? Inflation as a result of the impacts of Covid and the invasion of Ukraine. In other words, -------- and Putin's actions.

Biden was incredibly effective in helping America recover from their actions. AN ECONOMY THAT IS ENVY OF THE WORLD

America has just reelected the man mostly responsible for the inflation who has promised inflationary policies.

Red state America is going to be upset to learn that Biden's investment went mostly to red counties; when --------tarts pulling those investments and the jobs poof away.

Oh well, at least the right people will be getting hurt

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag

Even if that were true, she sucked at getting people to believe it.

To be fair the kroger CEO admitted they were price gouging Americans and Biden didn't do a damn thing about it.

#74 | Posted by rcade a

The problem, the reason lies SOLELY with the American people.

The American people are venial, mean, hateful, spiteful bags of ignorant scum.

the one iota of comfort I take is the American people will suffer greatly

But damn...I wasn't counting on such massive numbers.

Massive numbers? The polling indicated ties across the board in every swing state. Nothing outside the margin of error happened.
You still don't have the House and it looks like you might have gained the Senate by the projected 2 seats.

Half this Nation does not support Trump. We aren't going anywhere. Just like you wouldn't be going anywhere if Harris had won.

Even if that were true, she sucked at getting people to believe it.

#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Because Americans are stupid.

There is no other reason.

If you don't know who and what ------- is, you are stupid. That is a simple fact.

The man was --------- a mic stand just this past weekend, in front of children.

No other reason approaches that.

Americans will get what they deserve and I will laugh all the way.

To be fair the kroger CEO admitted they were price gouging Americans and Biden didn't do a damn thing about it.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-06 10:43 AM | Reply

It's because he told the billionaire class that nothing would fundamentally change under his tenure. He promised them that.

#74 | Posted by rcade

so then....harris inability to separate herself from the past 3 and a half years was part of that reason???

Trump won because Americans care more about gas prices than the freedoms of other people.

Americans also care more about the price of a Big Mac than the stock market or the job market, apparently.

------- will put at least 2 more justices on the Supreme Court.

Radical religious fundamentalist whackos will control our country for decades.

Americans will be shocked at how quickly our country becomes a white Christian nationalist country.

Americans idiotically think that prices are going to go down. Inflation doesn't work that way. This is a concept that's just too difficult for too many people to grasp. The new price is what its' going to be from here on out (excluding factors such as Avian flu wiping out egg crops) is inflation was zero. The devaluation of the dollar already happened.

Hey -----------, i realize you think ------- will be great on the economy, here is what his future budget czar thinks:

On his social media platform, X (a.k.a. Twitter), an anonymous user posted Tuesday that, "If Trump succeeds in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit - there will be an initial severe overreaction in the economy ... Market will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we are on sounder footing, there will be a rapid recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy."

Musk replied, "Sounds about right."

Look how great the last 2 major market tumbles benefited Americans-the great recession and the great depression.

Both conservative messes that had to be saved by democrats.

You really really are stupid, you know

Oh btw, there will most certainly will NOT be a rapid recovery to a healthier sustainable economy.

We aren't going anywhere. Just like you wouldn't be going anywhere if Harris had won.

#83 | Posted by YAV at

I disagree....no surprise.... ha ha

I think he's gonna have a way different start than in 2016 that can get things done because

he's been there / done that unlike '16'

--he damn sure better especially if the house can somehow stay red.......that would mean he has no excuses.

"Hillary won [a plurality of] the popular vote."

That doesn't make her a better candidate. Harris didn't have the baggage that Clinton did and didn't do anything as off-putting as "people don't like me because I'm a woman. " She made some serious misteps at the end, though, between her twee snl appearance and refusing to go on Rogan and not strongly rebuking Biden's garbage gaffe.

Americans also care more about the price of a Big Mac than the stock market or the job market, apparently.

#87 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 10:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Americans have also been cashing in their 401ks just to survive. Pretending that middle class Americans have money laying around to play with stocks is crazy.

"Because Americans are stupid.

There is no other reason."

If Americans could witness and experience firsthand the oppression and destruction that their own elected government (and its institutional enablers) has foisted upon other parts of the world, then perhaps they wouldn't be so stupid.

The Democrats can't continue to exist as a viable choice by responding to the pig Republican party by being just a pig wearing lipstick.

Women, apparently, are not dying as a result of abortion bans.

Shall I post the links?

Nah you're to stupid or evil to understand.

Women, you no longer matter in America, congrats

#72 | Posted by truthhurts

Oh come on, women are also dying due to violent unvetted illegal immigrants.

Yav,

Of course, regardless who won, half of America will be disappointed.

However, I think it will be a fair statement to suggest he'll have a genuine mandate.

We'll wait and see how these last states come in.

After 4 years of reading about Biden's narrow victory and condemning conservatives...yea...I'm happy with the results.

Americans are too stupid to realize that what ------- proposes will have one inevitable result-an economic crash.

America does not have the industrial infrastructure to absorb the manufacturing it will need to match today's global economy. The raw materials, the industries the parts-America simply doesn't produce them. Therefore once the tariffs are imposed ---- will become simply unavailable. And ------- fails to understand that other countries have power too, they can pose reciprocal tariffs resulting in crushing our exports-more bailouts for big agriculture. All this leads to global insecurity and market crashes meaning less money for investment.

The best you can hope for is ------- doesn't do what he said he was going to do.

After 4 years of reading about Biden's narrow victory and condemning conservatives...yea...I'm happy with the results.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson

Then bill you are either stupid or evil, which is it?

Do you care that trans kids will kill themselves?

Do you care that parents will be separated from their children?

Do you care that women will die due to not being able to receive basic health care?

You are either stupid or evil, so which is it?

And the oil patch has begun to respond already according to source interviewed earlier in expectation of a trump victory.

companies of various sizes and ancillary businesses are responding to inquiries

with... "hell yes we will be hiring / buying / drilling.

and that's good news....right ???

Americans have also been cashing in their 401ks just to survive. Pretending that middle class Americans have money laying around to play with stocks is crazy.

#93 | Posted by lfthndthrds

What caused the inflation?

How does one curb said inflation?

How will tariffs, mass deportations and tax cuts for billionaires effect inflation?

What will cutting the renewable energy jobs do to inflation?

How will gutting the social safety net and the ACA effect inflation?

Cause those are -------- ONLY stated economic policies.

You know, after the Hillary-Bernie Sanders fiasco and now this, Democrats might want to look into the DNC a little closer.

What caused the inflation?

How does one curb said inflation?

How will tariffs, mass deportations and tax cuts for billionaires effect inflation?

What will cutting the renewable energy jobs do to inflation?

How will gutting the social safety net and the ACA effect inflation?

Cause those are -------- ONLY stated economic policies.

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:04 AM | Reply |

Watch and see

So, you can't even provide a basic response.

Telling.

You better hope ------- doesn't do what he said he would do.

Where the ---- did the women go? After Dobbs?

Where did the women go?

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-06 10:13 AM | Reply

To the grocery store where they experienced the worst of inflation first hand.

Abortion won at state levels something like 14 to 4 so far. Federalism not required for most.

@#103 ... You better hope ------- doesn't do what he said he would do. ...

In the speech he gave last night, he said, "Promises made, promises kept."

Abortion won at state levels something like 14 to 4 so far. Federalism not required for most.

Trump was let off the hook on that one - winning in so many of those states while the anti-abortion amendments won overwhelmingly.

Floria now gets to live under minority rule on that issue. The minority (clear) dictates to the majority about what women can do with their bodies, and doctors can do about their patients health.

"How many women will die as a direct result of this election?
How many trans kids will kill themselves as a direct result of this election?
How many kids will be forcefully separated from their families as a direct result of this election?"

The same number as those who will die as a direct result of your misuse of the phrase 'a direct result of'.

Truth,

Your posts demonstrate the problem for Democrats.

Your obsession with abortion when it is not the biggest concerns in America right now.

There are bigger problems.

So, I take it you don't care.

Got it.

How many women will die as a direct result of this election?
How many trans kids will kill themselves as a direct result of this election?
How many kids will be forcefully separated from their families as a direct result of this election?"

The same number as those who will die as a direct result of your misuse of the phrase 'a direct result of'.

#107 | Posted by sentinel a

You have frequently demonstrated an inability to understand the concept of cause and effect.

BTW, FWIW, the mother of my children would very likely be dead today (and my two youngest children never born) if she and I lived in a place like current day Texas.

So, yeah, the issue of reproductive freedom is kinda personal

You wouldn't understand because you are not a good person.

Pretending that middle class Americans have money laying around to play with stocks is crazy.

You just told us the one way Trump benefited you his first term was about stocks.

Now the stock market is doing great under Biden and you say no one has money to care about stocks.

It seems like your logic is pretty convenient: Stocks matter under a Republican president but don't matter under a Democratic president even when the market is strong.

Did rob rainer set himself on fire yet? Wats the holdup?

I will now repeat what I posted several times before the election:

"I fear we live in a majority racist, majority moron nation now".

I'm right again, unfortunately...

It seems like your logic is pretty convenient: Stocks matter under a Republican president but don't matter under a Democratic president even when the market is strong.

#112 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag

I said Americans in general. It's a fact that Americans had to begin using their retirements to feed themselves. When Trump was in office people had more discretionary money to spend. Now they don't. I haven't been a ---------- on this thread and I've tried to stick to actual facts that led us to this point as a country. Trump won the EC and looks like he may have won the popular vote by 5+ million. No one in their right mind would say that that many people are just plain retarded. It happened for a lot of reasons and pretending people didn't voice their concerns through voting is a grand denial.

Im just glad the good guys won.

Posted by BigBigly7 at 2024-11-06 11:54 AM | Reply

Neither Trump nor Vance are the good guys. That's fact not conjecture.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts

You have frequently demonstrated that you're just as stupid as any Trumper.

Headline should be: America allows Trump to beat a second woman

It happened for a lot of reasons and pretending people didn't voice their concerns through voting is a grand denial.

I never said people didn't voice their concerns through voting. The comments of mine you've been responding to were about voter concerns.

Neither Trump nor Vance are the good guys. That's fact not conjecture.

#118 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag

We can debate that, or not. Fact is, more people trust them than they did Harris and Co. to run the country.

Let's put it in perspective. According to Democrats, Americans chose a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist over their candidate. If that were actually true, what does that say about the Democrat's own candidate?

No one in their right mind would say that that many people are just plain retarded. It happened for a lot of reasons and pretending people didn't voice their concerns through voting is a grand denial.

#116 | Posted by lfthndthrds

No one is arguing that the American people aren't voicing their concerns through voting. the point is that Americans who voted for ------- are either stupid or evil. There is NO other option.

------- is who he is. He is obviously unfit for office. Anyone who voted for him has ZERO excuse for not knowing who he is. They have no excuse for not knowing what he will do. Zero, none.

He will do bad things. he will destroy the economy. He is responsible for the inflation that Americans are suffering from. Solely? NO, but he holds a significant responsibility for it.

Compare it to 2008, Bush tanked the economy leading to the great recession. Obama brought us back from that. 2024 is like America voting W back into office in 2012. That would be stupid. It is stupid to put the person who caused inflation back into office to solve inflation. ESPECIALLY when he has expressed 2 policies-tariffs and mass deportation that will generate inflation.

Americans who voted for ------- are too stupid to realize ------- caused the inflation that Biden was solving-whose economy was the envy of the world.

So, yeah AMericans are stupid.

Really stupid

Or evil

Merrick Garland allowed the ruin of america because he didn't want to be called partisan.

#122 | Posted by lfthndthrds

FFS it's not "According to democrats,..." it is a simple fact.

FFS this is the problem with -----------, they gaslight ------- everything

It says Americans are either stupid or evil.

They chose a convicted felon rapist over a centrist politician. that is a simple fact

What does that say about the American people?

"No one in their right mind would say that that many people are just plain retarded. It happened for a lot of reasons and pretending people didn't voice their concerns through voting is a grand denial."

I agree with this. Some of Trump's supporters are retarded and voted for him (again) because they only see politics as a sport/game/entertainment like professional wrestling. But some are cynical/depressed/disaffected and actually believe their lives will be better by burning the whole system down to the ground.

"he will destroy the economy"

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:02 PM

He better get someone to hold his beer, because that's a tall order after 4 years of Biden/Harris.

Yes, thr haters have won, I honestly fear what is coming. I think we vastly underestimated how many haters there are in America. Ovviously now we know America is a racist, xenophobic nation and not an intelligent one. To me it seems that this oorly educated, unintelligent majority got their way last night, now we'll see how well that works out for them. My guess is that it will backfire on them but, it's out of my hands now, we'll just have to wait and see what happens when stupidity becomes a virtue.

-what does that say about the Democrat's own candidate?

do I understand this correctly?

Fewer women voted for Harris than for Biden?

meaning that Biden enjoyed a larger margin of women voters than Harris?

Danni. Our country has always been a racist Xenophobia country. Since its founding. Sadly it continues to be a racist Xenophobia country.

He better get someone to hold his beer, because that's a tall order after 4 years of Biden/Harris.

#127 | Posted by lfthndthrds at

------- has concepts of a plan to "fix" the ACA.

Mike Johnson on the other hand will simply gut it.

Oh well the ACA is sooooo unpopular

Historic 21.3 Million People Choose ACA Marketplace Coverage. The Biden-Harris Administration announced 21.3 million people selected an Affordable Care Act Health Insurance Marketplace plan during the 2024 Open Enrollment Period.

and

www.kff.org

Only 62% find it favorable.

What does that say about the American people?

#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag

It says the average American trusts Trump rather than Harris.

The markets are already responding to the MAGA medicine, big gains its tremendous. Everyone likes a good stock market, even the haters and the losers!

#133 | Posted by BigBigly7

Because the markets arent structured to reflect the catastrophic financial damage from inflation and climate destruction that are going to happen.

#135 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-06 12:2

"the markets are stupid"

Everyone likes a good stock market ...

The stock market has been doing great during Biden's presidency but it didn't start to matter to you until this morning. Funny how that works.

-Because the markets arent structured to reflect the catastrophic financial damage from inflation and climate destruction that are going to happen.

If I'm managing a multi-billion endowment fund, I can exit anything I want today....if I believe what you say "is going to happen".

I guess I'm asking what you mean by "aren't structured"?

" So, yeah AMericans are stupid.

Really stupid

Or evil

#123 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-11-06 12:02 PM | FLAG: "

You are such a disgusting POS.

My message to Democrats and their media allies: Humility and introspection. It's absurd that Trump won this, especially given his margins of victory in some states.

" So, yeah AMericans are stupid.

Really stupid

Or evil

#123 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-11-06 12:02 PM | FLAG: "

You are such a disgusting POS.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger

Rape supporter says what?

Headline is all wrong.

Should be AMERICA LOSES

Danni,

"I honestly fear what is coming"

Of course you do.

You know America hating liberals like you are Democrats own worst enemy.

Trump became the working man's party because the Democratic party failed them.

I honestly fear what is coming.

I do, too. This time Trump even has the Supreme Court decision making him think his actions are always constitutional even when they break laws. He was open about his desire to be a dictator and to use the military against Americans on U.S. soil and punish the "enemy within" and Americans voted for that.

You know America hating liberals like you are Democrats own worst enemy.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 12:44 PM | Reply

Your support of a guy who tried to overthrow the Constitution says what?? Are you out of your mind?? Scratch that. You are.

You know America hating liberals like you are Democrats own worst enemy.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 12:44 PM | Reply

Your support of a guy who tried to overthrow the Constitution says what?? Are you out of your mind?? Scratch that. You are.

The one silver lining is that bill will suffer along with the rest of us. Probably more so in

Rcade,

Wait till the GOP gets the house.

You think you're afraid now?

But remember....this is reactionary voting.

Dems might want to figure out what's wrong with themselves with honest introspection and humility.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 12:55 PM | Reply

Where was that introspection and humility from you when Trump lost in 2020?? Nowhere to be found. So stick a sock in it you hypocrite.

Laura,

You responded to one sentence I wrote and then overlooked the one after it which was my point.

See what I mean?....blinders.

Missing my point that dems are losing the working and middle class.

Laura,

"Where was that introspection and humility from you when Trump lost in 2020?"

Must have learned something from the loss...wouldn't you say?

Laura,

And no cheating.

Ba-dum-tss!

Dems... introspection and humility.
#148 | Posted by BillJohnson

Democrats...Humility and introspection.
#140 | Posted by BellRinger

Is that what you were calling for last time around, when you lost, or did you just double down on the hate?

Evil is usually simpler and easier than Good... and Good tolerates Evil, but not the other way round. Don't expect any tolerance from the New Boss who is not the same, but worse than the Old Boss.

For actual Christians, not these American evangelicals who pine for Rapture and floating away into space to Heaven while looking down on everyone else... which isn't in the bible... for actual Christians who believe that there is a God who is in control; who is eternal and for whom time is a parade that he has already seen...

... these true Christians and others of good heart and spirit can take comfort in the fact that the future has been laid out for them to see if they care to look.

The ascendance of, by any cogent standard, a truly evil man to world leading power at a time when the middle East is preparing for war; his description and his actions and the geopolitical milieu of his time in undeniable detail are written down for us to see if we have eyes to see.

AND they tell us what happens next:

a 7 year Peace Plan for the Middle East brokered by the new American President (who is identified as such; the Leader of the 7th version of the world ruling empire of Rome) who then breaks the Peace himself halfway through the term of the agreement... by attacking Israel.

Whereupon the current Times End and the New Jerusalem, the marriage of the physical and the spiritual world, Begins. On Earth as originally intended, not somewhere else.

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it... now that the Man of Sin, the Antichrist has, as described in detail in 2 and 3 thousand year old texts, has taken power again. I wasn't so sure before.

nymag.com

(the article is flawed in several ways, but... it's from a known source)

The descriptions of the Antichrist... that only one guy meets.

video and text

antichrist45.com

The Homeland of the Antichrist... more complicated, and surprising.

antichrist45.com

video and text

SO, all in all, this election is, ultimately, Good News for ALL those who aren't evil bastards.

Dems might want to figure out what's wrong with themselves with honest introspection and humility.

#148 | Posted by BillJohnson

the problem bill lies not with the democratic party the fault lies with an electorate that votes for a rapist, a felon, an insurrectionist, a conman.

But this is the party that reelected a war criminal who republicans no longer acknowledge.

Someday the ------- era will be over and republicans will once again be ashamed (once the glee of owning libs fades).

Ask yourself why democrats are not ashamed of Biden, or Obama or even Bill Clinton.

And ask yourself why republicans are ashamed of bush and will be of -------.

And ask yourself why Obama and Clinton and soon Biden are ranked among the best presidents and ------- and W amongst the worse.

The only thing wrong with democrats is they constantly underestimate the depths to which the republican party will fall.

The American people elected a man who, just this past weekend, mimed a ------- in front of children.

So, yeah, the problem is not the democrats.

I don't care what Trump voters think about why he won. It's always just a big self-congratulatory pat on the back about how all their long-held prejudices are 100% correct. Most of the time it doesn't reflect anything that Trump actually said or did.

During the campaign he stood on a stage for a half hour silently swaying to music in a fugue state while giant question marks appeared over the heads of everybody in the crowd and the Trumpers today with all the answers had no problem with it.

Must have learned something from the loss...wouldn't you say?

#151 | Posted by BillJohnson

They learned that Americans want a president that mimes a ------- in front of children.

Pardon dems for not reaching that conclusion sooner

And no cheating.

Ba-dum-tss!

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 01:05 PM | Reply

There was no cheating last time you ignorant buffoon.

And no cheating.
#152 | Posted by BillJohnson

Why? Because you won? I don't believe it, it feels to me like Harris should have won. There's no way Dotard got all those votes!

In fact, I would say since the Pubs participated greatly in mail-in-voting, I'll bet you agree that the election was not secure enough to be sure. It was good enough for you last time, why so sure this time?

I keep looking for silver linings.

One is that Guiliani will not be able to buy a pardon.

Tfd,

"Why? Because you won? I don't believe it, it feels to me like Harris should have won. There's no way Dotard got all those votes!"

Mailed in ballots have always had inherent problems. Always have.

In 2020 those problems were compounded due to scale.

So long as margins are big enough those ballots wouldn't have made a difference, those existing problems have always been all but ignored.

In 2020 the margins were small and the possiblity of those ballots being the difference became an important topic.

The margins this election were wide enough those existing problems will again be ignored...not because Trump won, but because he blew it out.

In victory your idiocy is magnified.

Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 01:26 PM | Reply

FACTS

Mailed in ballots have always had inherent problems. Always have.

In 2020 those problems were compounded due to scale.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 01:25 PM | Reply

Liar liar pants on fire.

The only thing this election proved is, once again, this country is split down the middle. Either side who wins is only representative of half the people. Yet, both sides use these kinds of results to act like America agrees with everything they do and wants to push that specific party's agenda to the extreme. So that's what happens, each.and.every.time.

And then the losing party whines and cries about it and says America is doomed...until the next election they are in power and then all of a sudden this country is the best thing ever.

I hate to see this continue to happen. We never fix anything because of it. The same issues that were around when I was a kid are still problems today and both sides always respond it's because of the other party.

"Where was that introspection and humility from you when Trump lost in 2020?? Nowhere to be found. So stick a sock in it you hypocrite."

Nice shot! While Dems are the leaders of hypocrisy, it's fun to finally see when it can be used against Reps. I predict we are going to see a lot more from Reps now as opposed to the last time Trump was in office, mainly because they didn't inherent a country going through a really tough time like Obama and Biden did. So now they have less to stand on and have to resort to stupid political tactics again. Ahhh, business as usual finally.

Wow, look which party all of a sudden cares about what is done in front of kids.

Read your #165 again, then say hello to yourself.
Your statement "which party all of a sudden cares" is scurrilous. Dishonest. Evil.

Hum,

"Either side who wins is only representative of half the people"

Maybe thats why dems lost.

They actually believe that.

#166 | Posted by humtake

It would take a seriously deranged individual to equate the president's actions to some random person somewhere who may or may not have done what you claim. We all so the President Elect mime a ------- in front of children.

You, sir, are deranged.

Hum,

"Either side who wins is only representative of half the people"

Maybe thats why dems lost.

They actually believe that.

#169 | Posted by BillJohnson

------- does not represent me. In fact, he represents everything that I oppose.

I don't agree this is politics as usual. After Clinton broke the law and was deservedly impeached, his party paid a price for several election cycles, and no one who isn't partisan still wants anything to do with anyone named Clinton. After Bush screwed up with both Iraq and the economy, no one wants anything to do with anyone named Bush either. But after ------- up the Covid response and getting deservedly impeached twice, and getting at least two of his own supporters fatally shot, people still want to subject themselves and the country to another four years of that?

Something is really wrong if that many people want to cut off their noses to spite their faces that bad, and can't be just because they're "stupid" or "evil".

What do you think it is, Sentinel?

Something is really wrong if that many people want to cut off their noses to spite their faces that bad, and can't be just because they're "stupid" or "evil".

#172 | Posted by sentine

Bull ------- ----.

People either understand or do not understand what ----ler is. There are no other options.

If you understand him and support him, you are evil.
If you do not understand him and support him, you are stupid.

There are no other options.

The one silver lining is that the morons will suffer along with the rest of us.

I wonder what the over/under is on ----lerites dying as a result of abortion bans?

I ran into a trump voter on monday.

She was a religious woman in her 80s

She insisted on saying I should vote for trump (she raised the topic).

As an aside she was putting her nose into something that was none of her business.

She called trump "a godly person"

I asked her if she was aware he mimed a ------- in front of children.

She said she didn't know that.

I asked her if he should be disqualified for trying to overthrow the government

She said "I don't believe he tried to do that"

My conclusion: She is stupid.

...margins this election were wide...
#161 | Posted by BillJohnson

Which is exactly why I think they cheated. It makes no sense to me that Trump got all those votes. I don't believe it, that was good enough for you last time.
and also, Trump said there would be widespread cheating by the Dems, but he won. Did he announce the plot he foiled, was there a big expos? Wouldn't he want to tell us how he stopped the cheating he already said was happening?

Sometimes things are actually fairly simple and black and white

"What do you think it is, Sentinel?"

I don't think it can be pinned down to just one thing, but I'm convinced there are mental health issues, regardless of whether the people who voted for him lean to the right, left or some other angle

And yes, I'm convinced he did get a number of left wing votes, because there are also people on the far left who thrive on chaos or don't know how to function in anything other than victim mode.

I also believe there are some who voted for him because they believed that appeasing his supporters would lessen the chances of violence like J6 again and naively hope that things will simmer down afterwards.

@178

So stupidity or evil, as I said.

Reminder ------- and Johnson have a secret

I know some people that vote for "their team" no matter what.
I know others that just aren't informed at all, but know they are Republicans and Trump was nominated and so they are voting for him.
I know many people whose memories aren't accurate and they honestly believe they were MUCH better off under Trump. That is historically inaccurate, and the timeline is clear about that, but they believe that.
I know a lot of people that are white older males that feel that they are losing America to all those immigrants. Doesn't matter if they are legal or 'illegal' and they want that loss of their identity stopped.
Economy is a big one, but the truth of the economy will not breakthrough to them because they know (I believe they know) that there isn't actually a fix, so they'll just blame the democrats and all those others - the ones they are letting in - for all the problems.
I overheard this conversation about all these problems these two said we have needing to stop - and the first step in doing that is closing the border TIGHT and getting rid of all the "illegals."

My wife and I decided this morning we will move up our retirement to 2026 and either move abroad or live half time in a saner foreign country. Enough is enough.

I just saw this:

"Me watching any new Star Wars:

Wait, so this society keeps reverting back to fascism no matter how many times the good guys win?? That's ridiculous!
...
...

Oh..."

"that there isn't actually a fix"
This meaning a fix to what they think is the problem. What they think the problem is is a whole nother issue.

@181

---- all that.

Americans had a duty to prevent a fascist takeover of our country.

They chose the evil.

There is no excuse for it.

The American people have fundamentally betrayed women.

There is zero excuse for it.

Women will die because of it. Women's lives will be destroyed because of it.

There is zero justification for it. None.

It is not this or that policy which decided it. It was people choosing the monster. There is zero reason to be unaware of what ------- is.

Americans had a duty.

I have absolutely zero respect for any person who voted for that bucket of scum.

I truly and sincerely hope that those people who voted for him suffer the worst of the consequences of what he will unleash.

Unfortunately, what he will unleash will be with America for decades.

-I truly and sincerely hope that those people who voted for him suffer the worst of the consequences of what he will unleash.

We know

I truly and sincerely hope that those who wish that many Americans suffer the worst of the consequences from Trump would grow the ---- up and stop being such a baby.

But it's not likely going to happen.

But I'll keep wishing

#186 | Posted by truthhurts

But on the bright side, Alito and Thomas can now retire and be replaced by young Federalist judges who will ensure the complete Destruction of Democracy(TM) and usher in a New Era of fascist autocracy.

These are glorious days. Share it, brothers.

Ein Volk
Ein Reich
Ein Trump

"the markets are stupid"

#136 | Posted by lfthndthrds

The markets are the reason the planet is hotter than any time in the history of modern society.

#186 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag: Drama Queen

Trump's win proves propaganda is all that matters.

Just like in russia.

And now we're russia.

While america was celebrating "defeating" russia, Putin was coming up with a plan to destroy america from within, for far less money than they had spent trying to compete with the american military.

And our tech/media overlords allowed him to do it.

#186 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag: Drama Queen

#190 | Posted by Javelin at 2024-11-06 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag: Magat Scum

One thing that Trump took advantage of, again, and that some cretins who knee-jerked to everything he said still haven't figured out, is that many voters filter out what they deem to be "noise". So, when Trump gets the cretins and fools stuck in a pattern of reacting to everything he says or does and calling him a "Nazi", they stop paying attention to those sources and subconsciously lump all accusations that sound outrageous in with that noise, even if they happened to be true.

#193 | Posted by sentinel

My response?

------- mimed a ------- in front of children, just this past weekend.

On video, for the whole world to see.

---- off with this -------- that people couldn't know because they filter ---- out.

More excuse making for the stupid and evil Americans.

paraphrased..

shouldn't surprise anyone that the party of hard working people who abandoned those people experiences a loss.

bernie....

- Posted by Mao_Feasance

Ah... a visit from The Ghost of Reiche Past.

Love you, man!

You'll be happy to know that:

"Nazi Germany is the 7th head on the Beast with 7 Heads and 10 Horns

As should be obvious by now, the final beast kingdom, the one ruled by the Antichrist himself, the one that both the previous two iron kingdoms helped to bring about and empower, is none other than America.

And drawing from those two iron kingdoms that empowered it, the new American Empire will be the 4th Reich of the Holy Roman Empire, only this time it will be an Unholy American Empire, and ruled by an Emperor who is the Man of Sin.

But it's not the America we know today, as there are fundamental changes coming to the makeup of this country as a whole, transforming it into a worldwide empire with shocking new alliances."

antichrist45.com

btw, I heard a good description of prophetic language from NT Wright today. He described it as, in the first century at least, the equivalent of our Modern Editorial Cartoon.

Rabbis and priests could speak (and teach) publicly in symbolic language that their people understood, but even if a Roman knew the Hebrew language, they would not know the symbology.

What do you think it is, Sentinel?

#173 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag

It was your candidate. The one no one ever voted for. She was muscled onto voters as the one and only thing your party could come up with.

"Your official site for online learning from Prof. N.T. Wright.

Research Professor Emeritus of New Testament and Early Christianity
at St Mary's College in the University of St Andrews and Senior Research Fellow at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford"

www.ntwrightonline.org

some free ebooks

In case you want to brush up now that the Antichrist will lead America.

Bernie Sanders said about the Harris loss,

"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them"

Bernie Sanders said about the Harris loss,

"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them"

Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-11-06 04:59 PM | Reply

Someone who claims progressives don't get it is quoting a progressive?? Irony much??

If the Democratic party wasn't so beholden to corporate America they would do a whole lot better than they are. Sadly the moneyed elite has poisoned the Democratic party.

Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-04 05:47 PM | Reply

Bernie Sanders Tears Into Democratic Party Over Loss to Trump: 'American People Are Angry and Want Change'

www.latintimes.com

Now, BJ, mi amigo/amiga... ask Bernie whether the Trump policy agenda will be better for working people than would the Dem's?

He'll tell you the same thing about that that any Dem, and most non-partisan experts will tell you.

Trump will acerbate the problems Bernie refers to even more... much, much more.

What Bernie is saying is that things like reversing Corporate Personhood, killing Citizens United, Public Financing of Elections (paid for by Corps and Media who now pay for and produce ads anyway).

Public Healthcare (financed by drug companies and media), Higher Worker Earnings and Conditions... and a variety of other workable solutions... that almost ALL Republicans are paid to oppose in law and the Congress, some Dems, too, as it is the only way to win Office.

SO... when you invoke Bernie as an ally to your cause, realize that his solutions are not Republican solutions.

Those have always been the same: Money is speech, and the more money you have the more speech you get.

"Citizens United Explained

The 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence toward wealthy donors and corporations."

www.brennancenter.org

Laura,

You're missing the point but I'm not surprised.

how ?

easy enough....

numbers up from 2020.

numbers from big cities.

women =2
men =3
hispanic =6
black voters =7
young voters =10

I could make a fortune selling binkies on this site. Corky and truthhurts would be my best customers.

Someone who claims progressives don't get it is quoting a progressive?? Irony much??

#200 | Posted by LauraMohr

telling the truth isn't 'progressive"

here's the real reason.

the taylor swift effect.

all swifties know her record with picking guys.

:) :) ha ha !!

What shrimp listed was % increase by group this election.

Willow I sincerely hope you find yourself in a hospital begging a doctor to save a loved one

AND JUST LIKE THAT.....

its the sound of silence,

"the end of the filibuster"......has gone with the wind....blowing in the wind....

gone...that's all folks.....

- selling binkies