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Aircraft carrier's crew in ninth month at sea and has spent record 250 days consecutively without making land
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Two leading specialist military papers, the Navy Times and the Stars and Stripes, are reporting that there have been multiple attempts by sailors to jump overboard as poor conditions and mental stresses on the Lincoln reach breaking point. The crew is in its ninth month at sea, and has spent 250 days consecutively without making land " a record for an aircraft carrier in modern times.
Pedo 47 and Roofie Pete did that.
#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-12 12:47 PM | Reply
Broken showers full of mold, running out of food, soap and toothpaste.
On station for 8 full months despite being scheduled to rotate out back in May.
Enjoy your dinner:
#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-08-12 02:37 PM | Reply
...despite being scheduled to rotate out back in May.
They will have to wait. USS Photo Prop will be in the shop for another 6 months getting it's supply of crab and ribeyes replenished before its next VIP deployment.
#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-12 03:04 PM | Reply
Text messages from a service member aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln show horrific conditions.
They do not have any fresh food. One service member questioned if the government is doing this intentionally to see how far they can "push sailors' limits."
bsky.app
#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-12 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
It's a tough life being no more than grease in a cog of a gear in the ever-expanding machinery of the military industrial complex.
#5 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-08-12 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
It's disgusting what Orange Adolf is doing to our military.
#6 | Posted by a_monson at 2026-08-13 06:42 AM | Reply
Maybe Trump could spare a food cart.
#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-08-13 06:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Iranian government offers to feed hungry US Servicemembers: Sadaka
#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-13 06:59 AM | Reply
Civilians are freaking out with this little tidbit of news but in the grand scheme of Naval Operations, it's normal.
#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2026-08-13 11:54 AM | Reply
Parnas: I've spoken to numerous military families...
Our service members abroad are having moldy showers, are not getting detergent, not getting soap. Some haven't had a fresh meal in months.
Prisoners in America get better meal rations than these troops are getting right now in the Middle East.
It's hard to believe a demented serial rapist isn't doing right by his suckers and losers.
#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-13 12:19 PM | Reply
USS Abraham Lincoln to Be Replaced Amid Growing Concerns for Troops
www.newsweek.com
Pedo 47 and Roofie Pete are just crushing it this year.
#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-13 01:44 PM | Reply
Maybe Lincoln could borrow Photo Prop's emotional support therapy dog?
#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-13 02:00 PM | Reply
Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth only cares about beards, praying to Jesus, DEI and Low T.
#13 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2026-08-13 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Pete Hegseth only cares about beards
Beards are heterosexual women who marry gay guys so they can pretend to be heterosexual men.
#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-13 04:46 PM | Reply
Pedo 47 Orders Navy to Restore Older Tech on Aircraft Carriers, Costing Billions
www.wsj.com
#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-13 06:56 PM | Reply
Stinky also ordered more of those missiles that go bing bing bing bing boom.
#16 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-13 07:04 PM | Reply
@#13 ... Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth only cares about beards, praying to Jesus, DEI and Low T. ...
Exactly.
The Trump admin seems to be most concerned about "how things look" and not about the ability of those things to act.
#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-13 07:13 PM | Reply
The Trump admin seems to be most concerned about "how things look"
The buffoon who paints his face orange and combs his back hair over his head so it appears he still has hair on his head only cares about "how things look".
Same with Hegseth who installed a makeup room in the pentagon.
#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-13 07:35 PM | Reply
Wow, sailors complaining about being at sea I'm shocked .
#19 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-08-13 09:04 PM | Reply
Navy to Restore Older Tech on Aircraft Carriers
Lewzer sure does know how to flush money down the drain. Does anyone even make stream catapults anymore?
#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-13 09:34 PM | Reply
Why stop them? --Republicans
#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-13 09:38 PM | Reply
@#20 ... Lewzer sure does know how to flush money down the drain. ...
$900 million to destroy the East Wing of the White House.
But not enough money to assure that the toilets can flush properly for our sailors?
Where are Pres Trump's priorities?
#22 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-13 10:21 PM | Reply
His bank account in Qatar?
#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-13 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Sources tell me that the mental health crisis is embarrassment that the sailors are having to serve on a boat named after a sucker and loser of a president who actually died during an assassination attempt.
#24 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-08-13 11:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
@#24
Troll much?
#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-13 11:55 PM | Reply
More granularity on this maritime morale disaster: Black eye for the USN
#26 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-14 12:31 AM | Reply
Assuming the group can maintain 20 knots, the rescue carrier should be there in about a week.
#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-14 12:45 AM | Reply
@#27 ... Assuming the group can maintain 20 knots, the rescue carrier should be there in about a week. ...
I hope that will be what happens.
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#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-14 12:54 AM | Reply
No supplies, a food shortage and dark thoughts: Families of sailors describe life on the USS Lincoln
Conditions on board are declining " and so is morale " after hundreds of days at sea, families say.
www.nbcnews.com
#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-14 01:05 AM | Reply
Conditions on US aircraft carrier at sea for more than 250 days raise alarms
Thousands of US military members who have lived aboard an aircraft carrier for more than 250 days are reportedly contending with food shortages, broken plumbing and exhaustion, leading lawmakers to demand answers from the Pentagon and pressuring the Trump administration over the Iran war.
Military news outlets reported that some USS Abraham Lincoln sailors have attempted to jump overboard, and families have raised concerns about mental health onboard the ship.
...
www.bbc.com
#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-14 01:07 AM | Reply
Of course the lying -------- did:
Pete Hegseth dismisses reports of deteriorating conditions on USS Abraham Lincoln www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com
#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-14 01:10 AM | Reply
@#31 ... Pete Hegseth dismisses reports of deteriorating conditions on USS Abraham Lincoln ...
Do you really expect a member of the Trump admin to be honest about their contempt for the people who serve the Country?
imo, the Trump admin views those people as mere sacrificial pawns.
#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-14 01:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
And this know-nothing -------- needlessly blows more billions:
Trump orders the Navy to return to an older system of launching jets off aircraft carriers President Donald Trump is ordering the U.S. Navy to remove the advanced system used to launch fighter jets from its newest type of aircraft carrier and return to using older steam catapults that he has long said he prefers, according to a directive issued Thursday. The new mandate would likely cost billions of dollars and revert the Navy's most advanced ships to a system that takes more sailors to operate and is more difficult to maintain. apnews.com
President Donald Trump is ordering the U.S. Navy to remove the advanced system used to launch fighter jets from its newest type of aircraft carrier and return to using older steam catapults that he has long said he prefers, according to a directive issued Thursday.
The new mandate would likely cost billions of dollars and revert the Navy's most advanced ships to a system that takes more sailors to operate and is more difficult to maintain.
apnews.com
#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-14 01:15 AM | Reply
#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-08-14 01:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2
steam catapults that he has long said he prefers
Mostly because he thinks magnets don't work when they get wet. And yet he wants railguns on his golden battleships.
#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-14 01:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2026-08-13 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag: WOW
Maybe that is why we lose war after war... against malnourished people defending their homelands with inferior artillery.
#36 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2026-08-14 10:44 AM | Reply
Ironic that is is happening aboard the SS Abraham Lincoln... considering it's named after the first republiclown preznit.
How far that party has fallen... smh
#37 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2026-08-14 10:53 AM | Reply
"Ironic that is is happening aboard the SS Abraham Lincoln... considering it's named after the first republiclown preznit"
Actually the situation onboard the USSAL is just a microcosm of the sad decline of a country whose military has been mostly used over the past 25 years for propping up and fighting on behalf of an ethnosupremacist, fascist state half a world away. In the name of fighting "terrorism" of course.
#38 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-08-14 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Today, Lewzer said that Lincoln's eight and a half month deployment was "not nearly long enough".
#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-14 02:22 PM | Reply
REPORTER: The family members of US service members are concerned about the conditions on the USS Lincoln.
TRUMP: No they're not ...
REPORTER: Has the deployment gone on too long?
TRUMP: No no no. Not nearly long enough.
politicalwire.com
Pedo 47's concern for the suckers and losers is touching.
#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-14 02:38 PM | Reply
What an ----- that Republicans voted for on Tuesday 5 Nov 2024.
#41 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-14 02:40 PM | Reply
Could the food shortages be because the ship is operating somewhere that makes it too dangerous or difficult to safely resupply?
#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-14 11:17 PM | Reply
Obviously. That's why they don't leave ships in places like that for so long. Normally they resupply in port.
#43 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-14 11:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
This is what happens when you have a know nothing in the White House and a know nothing at Secretary of Defense. The most worthless administration this country has known ever.
#44 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-14 11:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
This is what happens when you have a know nothing in the White House and a know nothing at Secretary of Defense.
It's not just that they don't know, they also don't care. Lewzeer as much as said so today.
#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-14 11:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Heartbroken Loved Ones Reveal Crisis on Second Navy Carrier
www.reddit.com
Here's more of the winning pedo 47 promised.
#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 01:45 AM | Reply
Reveal Crisis on Second Navy Carrier
The simple truth is, the USN has overextended itself. There are only four deployed carriers. Lincoln is obviously over extended and is going home. They claim that Washington was always planned to rotate in to replace her. It's about 7,00 miles from Japan to the Gulf, a trip that would take about 15 days. Washington left Japan 83 days ago. It's not exactly in a hurry. Lincoln's original replacement was Roosevelt, which is currently in San Diego. Where will she go? To replace Washington in Japan? Or to relieve Bush, which has been at sea since May?
USS Photo Prop is at Newport News for a Mani-Pedi and to get her hair done, so that's no help. Three other carriers are in for multi-year fuel replenishments. The rest are in refits or training.
#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 02:11 AM | Reply
The article touches on all but one of WWWWW journalism standards. Why?
Where does the article attempt to explain why senior officers failed to perform there fundamental duty to their subordinates? Kinda important information doncha think?
#48 | Posted by et_al at 2026-08-15 02:56 AM | Reply
US Sailors: We want food.
Trump: The best I can do is put my name on the Kennedy Center.
~ Alex Cole ~
#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 02:57 AM | Reply
@annazarves
This is a reminder that Donald Trump, who has kept the USS Abraham Lincoln at sea for more than 240 consecutive days, has never served a day in his life.
#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 03:13 AM | Reply
why senior officers failed to perform there fundamental duty to their subordinates?
I would assume they didn't want to get fired.
#51 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 03:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#51 Then the author(s) should have accounted for that variable.
#52 | Posted by et_al at 2026-08-15 03:36 AM | Reply
REDIAL
"I would assume they didn't want to get fired."
***** Newsworthy stars for that reply.
Contradicting Trump isn't a good career move in the military these days.
#53 | Posted by Twinpac at 2026-08-15 03:52 AM | Reply
I'm out for a week for an out of town long trip (for our 46th anniversary) to a deceased friend's rural home now owned by her daughter that we've known since her birth.
#54 | Posted by et_al at 2026-08-15 04:06 AM | Reply
#3
I agree but that fails to account for absence of why.
#55 | Posted by et_al at 2026-08-15 04:15 AM | Reply
#42 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON
This ladies and gentlemen is the question of a simpleton
Now bill consider why we can't send the ship into one of the many bases we have nearby
I think u can get it just think real hard
#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Reminder we spend a trillion dollars in defense every year. You'd think that would be enough to keep our troops fed
Reminder the Gerald ford was subjected to sabotage (reportedly) due to an overlong deployment
#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Aside from the submarines, why aren't we hearing about sailors jumping off all the other ships in the task force?
#58 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-08-15 09:10 AM | Reply
#57 | Posted by truthhurts
In Russia, when the troops aren't fed, that means that some powerful person is stealing the lunch money.
#59 | Posted by Zed at 2026-08-15 09:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
know nothing in the White House and a know nothing at Secretary of Defense. #44 | Posted by LauraMohr
I'd wager maybe fifteen percent of Americans know what the Know-Nothing party was, where it came from, and what it stood for.
#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 10:54 AM | Reply
Aircraft carrier's crew in ninth month at sea and has spent record 250 days consecutively without making land ...
"But not long enough!" -Humpy Trumpy
#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-15 11:49 AM | Reply
Retired Major General Accuses Pedo 47 and Roofie Pete of Spewing Lies' Over Sailors' Conditions
www.mediaite.com
#62 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 12:36 PM | Reply
Truth,
"This, ladies and gentlemen, is the question of a simpleton."
You are correct that the answer to this question is simple.
So why are people acting as though it's some great mystery?
Iran is causing this, not America's leaders.
Yet I keep reading rants from people within our own country who blame everyone but Iran.
#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:17 PM | Reply
Iran is causing this
All because of wearing a short skirt and getting itself attacked.
#64 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 01:21 PM | Reply
It's Iran's fault the decomposing------------------- decided to double-tap an Iranian middle school.
#65 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 01:23 PM | Reply
"Iran is causing this, not America's leaders."
When did Iran attack Iran???
#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 01:24 PM | Reply
There is even a post praising Iran because it supposedly offered to provide food.
The lunacy of the left seems to have no limits when it comes to defending our enemy.
If Iran cares so much, why doesn't it simply allow us to feed our own troops?
#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:26 PM | Reply
"There is even a post praising Iran because it supposedly offered to provide food."
What did Jesus teach you about offering needy people food?
Apparently nothing.
#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 01:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
If Iran cares so much, why doesn't it simply allow us to feed our own troops? #67 | Posted by BillJohnson
If Republicans care so much, why are troops hungry in the first place?
#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 01:28 PM | Reply
I am sickened and appalled by people who condemn America and our president while praising our enemies and who collect free money from the government.
#70 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:29 PM | Reply
There is even a post praising Iran
Have you ever heard of a troll?
#71 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 01:29 PM | Reply
Iran is causing this, not America's leaders. Yet I keep reading rants from people within our own country who blame everyone but Iran.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:17 PM | Reply
We drew first blood. Therefore we're the guilty party.
#72 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-15 01:31 PM | Reply
" why doesn't it simply allow us to feed our own troops?"
You are aware the leadership met to respond to a US proposal, and the US bombed that meeting, right?
Or do you watch the "news" outlets who didn't report that fact, believing you can't handle the truth?
In short, America wouldn't allow their leaders to simply meet and talk with each other ... but now, you want a "favor" from them.
#73 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 01:36 PM | Reply
I am sickened and appalled by people who condemn America and our president #70 | Posted by BillJohnson
You're not appalled that we bombed a school.
You're appalled that some of us condemn bombing a school.
Actions don't speak louder than words to you.
You're completely wrapped up in your own emotions is why. There's no place for cold hard facts in your understanding of the world.
#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Iran is causing this, not America's leaders. #63 | Posted by BillJohnson
^ This is what husbands who beat their wives say.
She caused it, by not having my dinner ready and my cold beer in the fridge.
#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
I only added the free money part at the end as an after thought.
I am appalled by them whether they get free money or not.
The last part of the sentence was just an add on after it occurred to me these people some are living off the government while condemning it.
#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:39 PM | Reply
" people who condemn America and our president while praising our enemies and who collect free money from the government."
Everyone knows, if you want free money from the government, you just have to slurp Trumps backside.
Otherwise, Trump's family will take all of it.
Remember Republicans got so upset when they thought Hunter Biden might've made $1 million because of his father's political position?!? Seems kind of quaint, after obvious crypto-scams.
#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
" some are living off the government while condemning it."
But enough about Elon ... .
#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 01:40 PM | Reply
Redial,
I'm not posting as a troll.
I am actually disgusted by some posters on here.
#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 01:44 PM | Reply
I am actually disgusted by some posters on here. #79 | Posted by BillJohnson
"Disgusted." All you have is emotions. Facts are meaningless to you.
You're disgusted by them because they don't hate the things you hate.
You fail to turn the other cheek every day. I wonder if you know that about yourself.
#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 01:50 PM | Reply
#70 | Posted by BillJohnson
This is the problem with these MAGA Pedos:
They believe condemning the President IS condemning America.
This Racist Pedo Rape Cult truly believes this. If you condemn their hatred or their president, they claim you are condemning America.
Trump PRAISES China, North Korea, and Russia. And if you have a problem with that, Bill says you hate America.
But claim Iran sucks but we still shouldn't be bombing them in a poorly though out war, especially killing school girls, and Bill says you are praising our enemies and hate America.
This is how much of a Pedo Cult we are dealing with here.
#81 | Posted by Sycophant at 2026-08-15 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
The supply issues plaguing the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) aircraft carrier stem from Iranian drone and missile attacks on a naval base in Bahrain early in the US-Iran war, The New York Times reported on Friday.
According to the report, the US Navy initially used the Bahrain base for supply operations in its offensive against Iran, but was forced to change strategies following Iran's attacks on the base.
www.jpost.com
Why didn't stinky protect the American base in Bahrain?
#82 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Trump's hate for Americans, especially those in the armed forces, isn't something he's ever hidden.
#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 02:30 PM | Reply
I am actually disgusted by some posters on here. #79 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON
You're a deplorable Trumping MAGAt who does nothing but blindly support the destruction of America and parrot anything Trump and his administration says.
No one gives a damn about anything you post.
Most people engage with you out of sheer boredom.
#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
#84
Oof!
#85 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-15 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Who cares what the Fake Plastic Christian is disgusted by.
He worships at the alter of unbridled gluttony, hedonism, and the physical manifestation of profound inner corruption.
#86 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-08-15 03:14 PM | Reply
Sy,
"Racist Pedo Rape Cult"
Whether that exists or not, what does it have to do with the situation in Iran?
What does it have to do with getting food to the Lincoln?
You're lumping completely unrelated issues together.
If I say Iran is responsible for this situation, does that somehow mean I support pedophilia?
That makes no sense. You're deflecting blame from Iran and defending our enemy.
#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 03:38 PM | Reply
Clown,
And now you're attacking me while still refusing to blame Iran for anything.
Whose side are you on, anyway?
Say one thing condemning Iran for their actions....come on....
Bet you can't do it.
#88 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 03:41 PM | Reply
And leave Trump or MAGA out of it.
Just blame Iran for something....anything....anything at all that says you are on America's side.
#89 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 03:44 PM | Reply
USS Photo Prop, on the other hand, had a deployment of 11 months, but never 250 days at sea.
It made port stops in St. Thomas, Oslo, Croatia twice, as well as Crete.
#90 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 03:46 PM | Reply
If I say Iran is responsible for this situation, does that somehow mean I support pedophilia? #87 | Posted by BillJohnson
It's because you're telling the same lies as the pedophile.
Because you are aligned with the pedophile both politically and morally.
#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 03:47 PM | Reply
Snoofy,
That still doesn't explain what your "pedo cult" accusation has to do with Iran or getting food to the Lincoln.
Calling me a liar and claiming I'm morally aligned with a pedophile is not an argument. It's a personal attack intended to avoid the subject.
The same challenge goes to you. Say anything...anything at all...condemning Iran's actions, without mentioning Trump, MAGA, or pedophiles.
If you can't, you're proving my point.
#92 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 03:55 PM | Reply
Are you a traitor?
You and others seem able to condemn Trump, MAGA, and America's actions endlessly, yet you cannot name a single action by Iran that you condemn.
Whose side are you on?
#93 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#93 Calling them traitors gives them too much credit. They all are retarded.
#94 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-08-15 04:18 PM | Reply
You either can't or won't answer my challenge.
How about any of the other liberals on this far-left site?
Any takers? Anyone?
I'll start it off,
Iran attacked... Iran funded... Iran armed... Iran threatened... Iran killed...
Your turn.
#95 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 04:19 PM | Reply
Are you a traitor? You and others seem able to condemn Trump, MAGA, and America's actions endlessly, yet you cannot name a single action by Iran that you condemn. Whose side are you on?
Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 04:05 PM | Reply
Iran honey. We're in the wrong in this this war. Sucks to be you billjohnson.
#96 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-15 04:24 PM | Reply
Truth, "This, ladies and gentlemen, is the question of a simpleton." You are correct that the answer to this question is simple. So why are people acting as though it's some great mystery? Iran is causing this, not America's leaders. Yet I keep reading rants from people within our own country who blame everyone but Iran.
#63 | Posted by BillJohnson
I should have known you weren't bright or moral enough to understand.
Let me make this perfectly clear
With facts
WE ATTACKED THEM
WE ATTACKED IRAN
WITHOUT REASON, JUSTIFICATION, LEGALITY OR MORALITY
WE MURDERED THEIR LEADERS AND THEIR CHILDRE
IRAN IS AND HAS BEEN RESPONDING TO OUR AGGRESSION.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF SELF-DEFENSE?
But no surprise the poster with the morals of a gutter rat can't conceive of how we are the bad guys
#97 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
See Bill -------.
#98 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-08-15 04:28 PM | Reply
--------------, see the self-loathing butt ----.
#99 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 04:29 PM | Reply
#67 | Posted by BillJohnson
You stupid ------- moron.
We can't feed our troops because Piggy started and lost a war against a 3rd rate military
Normally the USSAL would pull into a US base in the region and resupply
We can't do that because the incompetent ----- who lead our country lost the war. they lost these bases.
So, the USSAL can't leave station cause we need the air cover and can't go into base because the bases will be attacked.
And again
WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION OR LEGALITY
IRAN IS AND HAS BEEN DEFENDING ITSELF
YOU ------- MORON
#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:30 PM | Reply
I am sickened and appalled by you and people like you.
People who excuse the obviously illegal and immoral ongoing war crime against the people of Iran.
oh and talk about free money
How is that trillion dollars a year spent on defense working out?
You're such a ------- idiot
#101 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:33 PM | Reply
Whether that exists or not, what does it have to do with the situation in Iran? What does it have to do with getting food to the Lincoln? You're lumping completely unrelated issues together. If I say Iran is responsible for this situation, does that somehow mean I support pedophilia? That makes no sense. You're deflecting blame from Iran and defending our enemy.
#87 | Posted by BillJohnson
Bill,
answer this question.
Would the USSAL be suffering this food issue had President Piggy not attacked Iran?
#102 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:36 PM | Reply
Say anything...anything at all...condemning Iran's actions
#92 | Posted by BillJohnson
Nobody is doing that because they/we are not interested in sinking to your level of hypocrisy.
#95 | Posted by BillJohnson
Here is a test for you... Can you follow any of those up with something Iran has done that the US hasn't?
#103 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2026-08-15 04:38 PM | Reply
Clown, And now you're attacking me while still refusing to blame Iran for anything. Whose side are you on, anyway? Say one thing condemning Iran for their actions....come on.... Bet you can't do it. #88 | Posted by BillJohnson
Iran is and has been defending themselves against aggressors
Iran is and has been responding with measured responses-tit for tat
We attacked them without warning murdering children in the dead of night with a cowardly sneak attack?
Please explain the difference between the Empire of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 and the cowardly sneak attack on February 27, 2026 that murdered infants?
#104 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:39 PM | Reply
Iran is being attacked by 2 nuclear powers and somehow is the aggressor
------- idiots
#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Snoofy, That still doesn't explain what your "pedo cult" accusation has to do with Iran or getting food to the Lincoln. Calling me a liar and claiming I'm morally aligned with a pedophile is not an argument. It's a personal attack intended to avoid the subject. The same challenge goes to you. Say anything...anything at all...condemning Iran's actions, without mentioning Trump, MAGA, or pedophiles. If you can't, you're proving my point.
Condemn President Piggy for protecting pedophiles.
#106 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Once again
How we got here:
1. Piggy unilaterally pulled out of the JCPOA despite Iran abiding by it 2. Piggy attacked them last summer without warning, declaration or justification-during negotiations. 3. Piggy agreed to a ceasefire with Iran last summer. 4. Piggy attacked Iran AGAIN, during negotiations, without warning, declaration or justification despite Iran abiding by the ceasefire. 5. Piggy launched the current war with a cowardly sneak attack that murdered their leader and infants. 6. Piggy launched this unjust, unjustifiable, illegal, immoral attack because Israel recognized a target of opportunity-the Iranian leader at home during peacetime. 7. Piggy murdered Iran's negotiators and moderates in the Iranian leadership. 8. Piggy bragged about murdering Iran's leadership-despite this being a war crime. 9. Piggy has threatened to murder Iran's negotiators. 10. Piggy signed a MOU to stop the fighting. 11. Piggy immediately breached the MoU. 12. Piggy has attacked unarmed commercial vessels traversing the strait 13. Piggy has regularly threated to end Iranian civilization 14. Piggy flounders between outrageous threats and actions-seizing the Strait and charging a toll, giving Saudi Arabia nuclear technology and immediately TACOing because the corrupt gulf dictators tell him no.
None of the above even touches on the evil acts of our ally Israel
#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
and oh yeah, just yesterday Piggy threated to make the Strait of Hormuz a US territory, you know, another war crime.
#108 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:48 PM | Reply
Hey dummy don't stoke out. Just kidding go ahead and die
#109 | Posted by fortfisher at 2026-08-15 04:51 PM | Reply
"Make the Strait of Hormuz a U.S. territory."
I like that idea. It would certainly settle the question of who controls it.
#110 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 04:57 PM | Reply
So, how do you think stealing something like that would make the US more secure?
#111 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 05:00 PM | Reply
It would certainly settle the question of who controls it.
How? Iran controls it now... what would change?
#112 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 05:02 PM | Reply
Can you follow any of those up with something Iran has done that the US hasn't? #103 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT
Once the US lost 238 peace keeping Marines due to Iranian car bomber in Lebanon.
I really think any equivocation between what Iran has done vs US is just from people that hate the US. en.wikipedia.org
I don't get the sense at anytime prior to that the US hated Iran, after that .. yeah.
#113 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-08-15 05:03 PM | Reply
I doubt they will condemn the Beirut bombing, which changed US opinion on Iran quite dramtically.
#114 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-08-15 05:04 PM | Reply
CSAMRUNT cheered for 9/11.
#115 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-08-15 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Truth, "Make the Strait of Hormuz a U.S. territory." I like that idea. It would certainly settle the question of who controls it.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 04:57 PM | Reply
Of course you would. You're an arrogant American. Full stop
#116 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-15 05:23 PM | Reply
H. Norman Schwarzkopf would have beaten the ---- out of Hegseth with his bare hands by now.
#117 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 05:29 PM | Reply
you cannot name a single action by Iran that you condemn. #93 | Posted by BillJohnson
I can name plenty.
None of them justify Trump attacking Iran.
#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 05:48 PM | Reply
Iran is being attacked by two nuclear powers and somehow is the aggressor
F___g idiots
#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 04:39 PM | Reply | Flag: Ain't that the Emeth?
Thanks Larry Ellison, Miriam Adelson, Bibi, and invasive species AIPAC for bankrupting the US treasury while Israel -- with world class universal healthcare for all her residents -- now sits out the war that we are fighting on her behalf.
And we have the BBB, food bank shortages, demoralized sailors on the USS Abraham Lincoln jumping overboard, and Trumpf Diarrhrea Syndrome (TDS) inflicting misery all over the US
Just look how the US Democratic Minority Leader fawns at the malevolent ethnic cleanser who helped destroy the US economy:
"FUNNY"
#119 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-15 05:48 PM | Reply
"Make the Strait of Hormuz a U.S. territory." I like that idea. It would certainly settle the question of who controls it. Posted by BillJohnson
Of course you like the idea of taking things by force and without consent!
That's the essence of who you are.
Your emotions tell you you deserve better than what you've worked for.
#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
You and others seem able to condemn Trump, MAGA, and America's actions endlessly #93 | Posted by BillJohnson
Condemn the United States Navy for kicking you out for being gay.
I can. You can't.
You're nothing without hating gays.
And that puts you a whole lot more aligned with Iran's political leaders than any of us Democrats will ever be!
#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 06:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
you like the idea of taking things by force and without consent!
So does Trump.
Especially when he's around 13 year old girls.
#122 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 06:36 PM | Reply
My discharge from the Navy has nothing to do with Iran blocking supplies from reaching American troops.
You brought up my sexuality to make this personal because you still refuse to address the actual challenge I made.
Now, can you condemn Iran's actions without mentioning Trump, MAGA, my sexuality, or my Navy discharge?
What will be your next deflection?
#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 06:39 PM | Reply
Make the Strait of Hormuz a U.S. territory
Of course!
Right after Canada becomes the 51st state, Greenland becomes Red, White and Blue land, and Mexico pays for the wall.
#124 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 06:39 PM | Reply
Now, can you condemn Iran's actions without mentioning Trump, MAGA, my sexuality, or my Navy discharge? What will be your next deflection?
#123 | Posted by BillJohnson
Can you identify a specific action by Iran against the United States worth condemning?
Note if you have to go back to 1979 you lost
#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 06:42 PM | Reply
My discharge from the Navy #123 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON
Did you get kicked out for the navy for being a swallowing too many seamen?
#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 06:42 PM | Reply
Well. Take two.
"Did you get kicked out of the navy for swallowing too many seamen?"
Thanks folks.
I'll be here all day.
Don't forget to tip your server.
#127 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 06:44 PM | Reply
@#93 ... You and others seem able to condemn Trump, MAGA, and America's actions endlessly, yet you cannot name a single action by Iran that you condemn. ...
Quite the contrary. I have multiple times previously condemned Iran's current government as evil.
Also, it is not America's actions that I criticize.
It is Pres Trump's reckless use of the great American Military in his War of Choice, a war that has no strategy and shifting justifications.
Pres Trump falsely thinks he is America, and that may be why your alias seems to equate criticism of Pres Trump with criticism of America.
#128 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 06:47 PM | Reply
My discharge from the Navy has nothing to do with Iran #123 | Posted by BillJohnson
That's correct.
Your discharge from the Navy has everything to do with the United States.
You don't condemn the United States for what they did to you. I do.
Iran, on the other hand, never did anything to me, or to you.
#129 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 06:50 PM | Reply
You brought up my sexuality to make this personal because you still refuse to address the actual challenge I made. #123 | Posted by BillJohnson
I brought it up to demonstrate your "condemn Iran" "challenge" is not just a distraction.
It's also a standard you can't hold yourself to.
#130 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 06:53 PM | Reply
Lamp,
"Trump's reckless use of the great American military in his war of choice."
Trump did not create this conflict. It goes back decades.
You can call his response reckless, but calling it a "war of choice" pretends Iran had no role in bringing us here.
#131 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 06:58 PM | Reply
Trump did not create this conflict.
Yes he did.
All you got are lies.
It goes back decades.
When Trump attacks England, will you claim it's because he's finishing the revolutionary war?
What a joke you are.
#132 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 06:59 PM | Reply
America has attacked or been at war with nearly every county on the planet.
Guess Trump can attack any one he chooses and BillJohnson can claim "it goes back decades".
#133 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 07:01 PM | Reply
Apparently the Splitters don't want to discuss the deplorable conditions faced by America's War Fighters aboard USS Lincoln due to the lack of logistical planning by the War Department.
Fair enough. Shall we start a thread about Beirut in 1983 instead?
#134 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 07:02 PM | Reply
"Trump did not create this conflict."
What created this conflict, BillJohnson?
Was it President Eisenhower, when he okayed CIA Operation Ajax which overthrew Iran's democratically elected leader in 1953?
#135 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 07:03 PM | Reply
" calling it a "war of choice" pretends Iran had no role in bringing us here."
Who ordered the bombing of Iran's leadership while they were meeting to agree on a response to the US?!?
#136 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 07:09 PM | Reply
@#131 ... Trump did not create this conflict. It goes back decades. ...
Quite the contrary, the War of Choice against Iran is fully of Pres Trump's doing.
He chose to initiate it.
Now, to what I think your current alias is trying to say, yeah, Iran has had issues with other countries for decades.
But my point is that Pres Trump chose to enter a war against Iran without a strategy and without a firm end-goal. And against the apparent advice of his Pentagon advisors.
And because of that Pres Trump has not only put our great Military in danger, but has weakened our military.
Weakened it to the point that China may now see the far east as open game. (Carrier destined to replace USS Lincoln is coming from the far east, leaving that area, well, weaker from a US point of view.)
#137 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 07:29 PM | Reply
@#134 ... Apparently the Splitters don't want to discuss the deplorable conditions faced by America's War Fighters aboard USS Lincoln due to the lack of logistical planning by the War Department. ...
Good point.
Back on topic ...
Navy secretary calls reports of Lincoln crew struggles dishonest' www.stripes.com
... Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Cao is pushing back against media reports detailing concerns about mental health and poor living conditions raised by family members of sailors and Marines aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, saying they were "dishonest" and harmed service members. Reports about food and water shortages, disrupted mail service, difficult living conditions and fears about self-harm were inappropriate attempts to portray service members as "victims," Cao said in a statement posted Friday to his official X account. "Sailors and Marines are expected to dig deep "--and they always do," said Cao, adding that military leaders had successfully balanced their responsibility to take care of service members while meeting mission requirements during the carrier's nearly nine-month deployment. ...
Reports about food and water shortages, disrupted mail service, difficult living conditions and fears about self-harm were inappropriate attempts to portray service members as "victims," Cao said in a statement posted Friday to his official X account.
"Sailors and Marines are expected to dig deep "--and they always do," said Cao, adding that military leaders had successfully balanced their responsibility to take care of service members while meeting mission requirements during the carrier's nearly nine-month deployment. ...
#138 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 07:36 PM | Reply
@#138 ... "Sailors and Marines are expected to dig deep "--and they always do," said Cao, adding that military leaders had successfully balanced their responsibility to take care of service members while meeting mission requirements ...
So... a tacit acknowledgement that Pres Trump's Sec of Defense has not done enough to, say, feed our brave sailors?
#139 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 07:38 PM | Reply
A trillion dollars per year
We can't keep our sailors fed
#140 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
Iran,
"Iran, on the other hand, never did anything to me, or to you."
Speak for yourself.
My objections to Iran are my own, and I don't owe you any explanations.
If I believe military action against Iran is justified, that's my judgment to make.
#141 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#140 ... A trillion dollars per year
We can't keep our sailors fed ...
And the question becomes ... why can't we keep our sailors fed?
Well, Iran seems to have made the Navy's re-supply port in Bahrain off-limits to the carrier.
And the Pres Trump did not have a backup plan to resupply the carrier if that likely issue arose.
Again, yet another planning failure of Pres Trump.
And one that hits our sailors in their stomachs.
#142 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 07:51 PM | Reply
"My objections to Iran are my own, and I don't owe you any explanations."
lol
of course
mighty convenient you won't say WHY we should be murdering iranians.
#143 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 07:59 PM | Reply
Why aren't sailors jumping off the other ships in the task force?
If the US changes its view and recognizes the ICC and its authority, every President since the ICC was created could be charged.
The Iran war is just one among the 20+ years of US Presidents and Congress authorizing acts subject to the ICC.
#144 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-08-15 08:18 PM | Reply
Trump hates the armed services.
He chose a television personality with zero experience to head up the department of defense.
Best of luck to the future of this nation.
The federal government is the enemy of the people.
#145 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 08:26 PM | Reply
Iran, "Iran, on the other hand, never did anything to me, or to you." Speak for yourself. My objections to Iran are my own, and I don't owe you any explanations. If I believe military action against Iran is justified, that's my judgment to make.
#141 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 07:44 PM | Reply
! You support the Iran war because you support Trump 100000% no matter what the topic at hnd. That's t.
#146 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-15 08:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
You support the Iran war because you support Trump 100,000% no matter what the topic at hand
#Fact
#147 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 08:37 PM | Reply
Why aren't sailors jumping off the other ships in the task force? If the US changes its view and recognizes the ICC and its authority, every President since the ICC was created could be charged. The Iran war is just one among the 20+ years of US Presidents and Congress authorizing acts subject to the ICC.
#144 | Posted by Petrous
I am no expert on current naval deployments, but it seems to me that the frigates and destroyers in the AL carrier group can dash off to remote bases for resupply and R&R while the AL cannot since the carrier's air groups are required for CAP etc. Since the gulf bases are no longer usable (probably never will be) the AC has no where to resupply
#148 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 08:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
To be clear it is likely that the US will not be able to use its bases in the Persian Gulf, and certainly not its naval bases in the Persian Gulf for the foreseeable future, possibly not ever again.
Iran controls the Strait, our naval ships would have to pass through that strait to reach bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and the Emirates.
Consider all of the money we invested in those bases. They are lost
The magnitude of this defeat is immense and barely being considered.
#149 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 09:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
www.aljazeera.com
FWIW the attached shows our bases in the Persian Gulf.
How will we use them with Iran controlling access to them?
#150 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 09:05 PM | Reply
NO ONE is talking about this.
What are the strategic impacts of this defeat?
#151 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 09:06 PM | Reply
@#144 ... Why aren't sailors jumping off the other ships in the task force? ...
Maybe because the other ships may not have been away from port as long as the USS Lincoln? Or maybe the other ships have enough food?
What evidence yer got?
#152 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 09:16 PM | Reply
@#151 ... What are the strategic impacts of this defeat? ...
Maybe start a thread with that question.
I have opinions ...
#153 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 09:19 PM | Reply
Like Russia, the US knows it's not as powerful as it thought it was. "Brute Force and Ignorance" is not a strategy.
Fuel costs for the average Joe will be, and stay, high.
Iran, and probably other countries will decide who, and what, can travel within their territories.
#154 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 09:23 PM | Reply
calling it a "war of choice" pretends Iran had no role in bringing us here. #131 | Posted by BillJohnson
^ Notice the goalpost shift. From Iran is "causing this," to Iran had "a role."
I don't think he even realizes he's backpedaling.
My objections to Iran are my own, and I don't owe you any explanations. #141 | Posted by BillJohnson
A thinking man would owe his own conscience an explanation.
But you're not a thinker. And you don't have any explanation why you support bombing Iran.
You are just going with your gut, and your gut is with Trump. Which is why there's nothing to explain. There's no concepts other than "I love and support Trump" behind your decision making process.
#155 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
You never answered my challenge.
You side with the enemy.
Just that simple.
#156 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 09:43 PM | Reply
Snoofy, You never answered my challenge. You side with the enemy. Just that simple. Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 09:43 PM | Reply
We are the enemy in this war. Iran didn't draw first blood. We did. Full stop
#157 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-08-15 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Snoofy, You never answered my challenge. #156 | Posted by BillJohnson
I did, though:
I can name plenty. None of them justify Trump attacking Iran. #118 | Posted by snoofy
"You side with the enemy."
I side with The Constitution. You, and Trump, are enemies of the Constitution.
I side with the rule of law established in the post-war hegemony, by the United States and United Nations. Under that framework, Trump's actions are illegal: "Trump administration waging illegal war on Iran, experts say" www.theguardian.com
#158 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Just that simple. #156 | Posted by BillJohnson
You lied to the United States. You lied to join the Navy. Just that simple.
And you dare call me the one who sides with the enemy? You told a lie, so significant and so sick, they had to kick you out of the Navy for it!
You're the enemy here. The enemy of common decency. The enemy of people who know it's wrong to lie, even when lying really opens up opportunities you shouldn't have.
You will forever be a liar, about the most important aspect of your own psyche. You, in that regard, have a lot in common with Trump. Trump, for example, has a tiny penis, but he likes to believe it's huge. And you have a tiny intellectual and emotional capacity.
#159 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 10:00 PM | Reply
BJ happily sides with the enema every time!
#160 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-15 10:00 PM | Reply
Iran didn't draw first blood.
Regardless of that, how did a carrier strike force run out of logistical support in a war zone?
My guess, the war was always supposed to be over "soon". That's still the story.
#161 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 10:04 PM | Reply
We should just call it what it is, the Epstein Distraction War.
#162 | Posted by Corky at 2026-08-15 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
"how did a carrier strike force run out of logistical support in a war zone?"
We have a President who bankrupted a Casino is how.
#163 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
I'd think the Secretary of the Navy would be a big player in this?
#164 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
You are defending Iran.
#165 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 10:25 PM | Reply
@#161 ... Regardless of that, how did a carrier strike force run out of logistical support in a war zone? ...
An excellent question.
Pres Trump's apparent answer - Planning? We don't need no stinkin' planning.
#166 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 10:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#165 ... You are defending Iran. ...
How so?
Please be precise.
thx.
#167 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 10:33 PM | Reply
"Secretary of the Navy"
Of course. I have nothing. The myriad logistical failures will make for a good documentary someday. Trump is more of a meta-reason.
My guess, until I learned better, when faced with a problem I couldn't solve I just... didn't.
By which I mean, don't we all suspect/hope our would-be Eichmanns have risen to their highest level of incompetence, in this second Trump Junta. Did you see the intro video for the new SBA Administrator? Have forks on the ready to gouge out your eyeballs.
I'm not saying our institutions can survive, but they seem to have some resilience so far.
#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 10:36 PM | Reply
How so? Please be precise. thx. #167 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER
By not sucking Trump's dick, like Bill does.
Trump is infallible in Bill's eyes.
#169 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 10:37 PM | Reply
how did a carrier strike force run out of logistical support in a war zone?
We're being bludgeoned by incompetence.
#170 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-08-15 10:39 PM | Reply
You are defending Iran. #165 | Posted by BillJohnson
You are defending an illegal, immoral, unjust, unjustifiable war of aggression, led by a corrupt incompetent pig
#171 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 10:41 PM | Reply
how did a carrier strike force run out of logistical support in a war zone? We're being bludgeoned by incompetence.
#170 | Posted by ClownShack
a trillion dollars a year
our sailors run out of food
freaking amazing
#172 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-08-15 10:42 PM | Reply
Snoofy, You are defending Iran. #165 | Posted by BillJohnson
Defending Iran... for doing what?
Are you of the opinion that our aircraft carrier group is effectively trapped by Iran, and is being prevented to travel to a safe location where the crew can be resupplied?
I'm not sure what you think Iran is even doing, so there's no way for me to know if I support it.
To the extent Iran can defend their country from airstrikes, I find no fault with any country doing that in any situation. Because at the core, countries exist to protect and serve the interests of their civilian population.
#173 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 10:43 PM | Reply
My original question at the beginning was "what is something you condemn Iran of doing?"
What I've seen is people defending Iran's actions because of what was done to them.
Or people deflecting to Trump this or that. Or MAGA this or that.
Just simply....I said blame Iran for something they did.
Or I've read nothing Iran has done has justified what is being done to them.
That's how this started.
Seems to be a bunch of Iranian sympathizers.
#174 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 10:51 PM | Reply
"My original question at the beginning was "what is something you condemn Iran of doing?"
What a riot, coming from someone who won't condemn America for ANYTHING, regardless.
Bomb a girls school? FINE! Cover for Pedophiles? AGREED! Obliterate a country's leaders? THUMBS UP!
Take responsibility? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!
#175 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 10:56 PM | Reply
Dan,
You're deflecting.
What you're saying has nothing to do with my question.
It's worse than I thought.
How many of the liberals out there are actually on Iran's side?
Pure and simple.
#176 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:09 PM | Reply
Why don't you post with the same level of hatred against other countries that you do against America?
Are you simply incapable of posting without deflecting?
#177 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:18 PM | Reply
@#174 ... My original question at the beginning was "what is something you condemn Iran of doing?" ...
... and as i have stated, I think the Iran administration is evil.
For example, killing those who protest.
#178 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:21 PM | Reply
You're 1.
#179 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:23 PM | Reply
"How many of the liberals out there are actually on Iran's side?"
None.
That doesn't mean they have to pretend America's been blameless.
Clearly, it does to you.
#180 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 11:24 PM | Reply
@#177 ... Are you simply incapable of posting without deflecting? ...
Or, maybe it is your current trolling alias that is deflecting.
For example,
Why does not it protest against Pres Trump's murdering of American citizens who are just protesting?
Why does Pres Trump's DoJ block the sharing of criminal evidence with states investigating those events?
So, yes, I will still maintain that Iran's government is evil. Very evil.
But then I also have to ask, why does Pres Trump seem to be taking cues from that evil government?
#181 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:27 PM | Reply
@#179 ... Lamp,
You're 1. ...
????
Please try to be rational.
#182 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:28 PM | Reply
I asked a simple question.
When someone plays whataboutism, they are who is deflecting
Not me.
#183 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:32 PM | Reply
And that is quite telling.
Why does your current alias seem to want to pull the discussion away from what our sailors are experiencing on the USS Lincoln?
#184 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:33 PM | Reply
@#183 ... I asked a simple question. ...
Huh?
Where?
Do try harder.
#185 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:35 PM | Reply
I asked a question.
Then when I call out someone for deflecting, you suggest I'm deflecting.
Don't you think you're being irrational?
#186 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:36 PM | Reply
"Why don't you post with the same level of hatred against other countries that you do against America?"
Why are you lying, Bill? I LOVE America.
In America, my wife and I could bring in $600,000 of income next year, and only pay $250 in income taxes. I can't do that in any other country!
But like everything loved, we want it/them to be perfect. Tearing up Obama's Iran deal, because of the name on it, will go down as one of the dumbest strategic moves in history. Negotiators were giddy about getting, for the first time, monitors on the SUPPLY CHAINS. Dumb Donnie ended all that.
There is no way in heaven, hell, or anywhere in-between Trump is going to end up with deal anywhere near Obama's.
And that's what gets your gall.
#187 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 11:37 PM | Reply
"Where?"
Further up the thread.
#188 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:37 PM | Reply
*** USCENTCOM Commander Visits Crew of USS Abraham Lincoln ***
"USCENTCOM Commander USN Admiral Brad Cooper completed a ten-day trip to the Middle East on 15 Aug that included visits to six countries and to a US Navy aircraft carrier operating in the Arabian Sea.
Adm. Brad Cooper met with senior civilian and military leaders in Bahrain, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates and spent time with deployed US service members. More than 50,000 American service members are operating across the Middle East supporting various missions like fighting a bankrupting war against Iran on behalf of Israel.
The unconstitutional war being fought against Iran wiped out 45 MQ-9 Reaper drones (25% of US inventory) in a historic drone attrition.
With each MQ-9 Reaper valued between $30m and $50m depending on its sensor and weapons configuration, the attrition represents a potential hardware loss exceeding $1.3 billion before sustainment, replacement, infrastructure, and operational disruption are considered."
Links:
militaryspend.org
www.centcom.mil
#189 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-15 11:38 PM | Reply
That doesn't mean they have to pretend America's been blameless. - Danny
Blameless in what 238 deaths in Iranian attack on peacekeeping Marine and french soldiers in Lebanon?
Since then it's been tit for tat.
What is the US to be blamed for, exactly that wasn't in response to Iranian provocations
#190 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-08-15 11:40 PM | Reply
"what is something you condemn Iran of doing?"
I've certainly condemned Iran at every evil turn.
Meanwhile...while in the Navy, what was the longest you were out of port?
And, if I may...where were you furthest from your home port?
#191 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 11:41 PM | Reply
Who even cares?
What changes when I condemn Iran for punishing women with lashes when they don't wear the hijab in public?
We're not bombing Iran for that.
#192 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 11:42 PM | Reply
A person has the strongest emotions for their own country, no?
In other words: I don't see Danforth posting about other countries with the same level of love he has for America, either. Do you see that?
There's things you hate about America. Like the way gay marriage became legal. Like mail-in voting.
#193 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 11:45 PM | Reply
"Blameless in what 238 deaths in Iranian attack on peacekeeping Marine and french soldiers in Lebanon?"
On the contrary, culpable. It's why I've had no qualms about condemning Iran. Even today, they're a schhittty oppressive backwater, save for the bubblin' crude.
"What is the US to be blamed for, exactly that wasn't in response to Iranian provocations"
Wait. Has the US shown proof the Iranians violated the JCPOA? If so, I apologize; I was unaware.
#194 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 11:47 PM | Reply
Cor,
I looked at your links.
This paragraph you put in quotes must be in a different link.
Your supposed quote "unconstitutional wars" isn't there.
Where did you actually find the paragraph you put in quotes?
#195 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-15 11:47 PM | Reply
Do we also get to blame Reagan for not going to war with Iran over that? Because Reagan Cut And Run after the Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing. Reagan then sold weapons to the very Ayatollah who did the Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing. And millions of Republicans think Reagan was our greatest President of their lifetime until Trump.
I think Republicans just worship incompetence.
#196 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-08-15 11:50 PM | Reply
Hmmm...from Google AI: The Trump administration did not provide conclusive evidence that Iran was violating the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) prior to the U.S. withdrawal in May 2018. Reports from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) indicated that Iran was complying with the nuclear limits set by the JCPOA until that point.
#197 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-15 11:50 PM | Reply
Has the US shown proof the Iranians violated the JCPOA?
No. All they have proven is a lack of ability to maintain a supply line to a forward deployed aircraft carrier.
Sad, really. China must be liking no more US carries in their world.
#198 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-08-15 11:53 PM | Reply
@#188 ... "Where?"
Further up the thread. ...
"Further up the thread" is not a message number.
It is more the sign of a troll.
#199 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-15 11:57 PM | Reply
@#194 ... Wait. Has the US shown proof the Iranians violated the JCPOA? ...
Good question.
As a corollary I might add, why did Pres Trump tear up that JCPOA multi-national agreement with Iran?
#200 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-16 12:00 AM | Reply
88 thru 95.
#201 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-08-16 12:01 AM | Reply
Snoofy- Republicans worship con men, in the shape of Hollywood actors.
#202 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-08-16 12:08 AM | Reply
@#201 ... Lamp,
88 thru 95. ...
I asked why your current trolling posted this comment in #179 ...
Lamp, You're 1. ...
And so far all I have received in response from your current ttrolling alias are vague deflections.
So I repeat my #182 ...
... @#179 ... Lamp, You're 1. ... ???? Please try to be rational. thx. ...
thx. ...
Why does your current trolling alias think I am #1?
#203 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-16 12:13 AM | Reply
@#202 ... Republicans worship con men, ...
I wish I could disagree.
Sadly, I cannot.
#204 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-16 12:14 AM | Reply
Well, since the IAE said they were complying, Trump's tearing up the agreement was the lynchpin.
Now, without the supply-chain monitors in the JCPOA, Iran has certainly done actions it wouldn't have otherwise.
Why Israel and America don't both blame Trump is beyond me. Of course, NuttyYahoo needs to commit war crimes to keep from going to jail for committing other crimes.
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(Ooooh, yikes. Now that I've typed that last phrase, it sounds eerily familiar.)
#205 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-16 12:16 AM | Reply
"(BillJohnson) Why does your current trolling alias think I am #1?"
Because he's full of #2?
#206 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-16 12:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#205 ... Well, since the IAE said they were complying, Trump's tearing up the agreement was the lynchpin. ...
Lynchpin, indeed.
www.wordnik.com
... figuratively a central cohesive source of stability and security; a person or thing that is critical to a system or organisation. ...
#207 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-16 12:32 AM | Reply
NONE of this happens unless Trump tears up the JCPOA.
And it takes a moron for the ages to believe ANY country is going to adhere to restraints unilaterally removed BY THE OTHER SIDE.
A blunder of historical proportions.
#208 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-08-16 12:35 AM | Reply
@#208 ... A blunder of historical proportions. ...
#209 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-08-16 12:41 AM | Reply
#210 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-08-16 12:59 AM | Reply
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