Wednesday, November 06, 2024

Trump Closer to 270

The Associated Press called North Carolina for Donald Trump just after 11 p.m. ET, cementing the former president's first swing state win in the 2024 race. Most Election Day polling sites across the United States have closed and results and data are starting to come in. The presidential races in Pennsylvania and Georgia, key swing states for both candidates, are too close to call.

Posted by retort at 08:37 AM | 383 COMMENTS | permalink

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AP map of electoral votes in called states:

apnews.com

The map on Electoral-Vote.com will be filled in throughout the night:

electoral-vote.com

Comments

Massive turnout in Philadelphia

#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-11-05 07:03 PM

Let it roll.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-05 07:04 PM

Massive turnout in Philadelphia
#1 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

This is the first big election that I haven't worked the table in Philly. Would've loved to be there.

#3 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-05 07:06 PM

Indiana already for Trump?

Tony 0-1 right out of the gate

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-05 07:10 PM

Spoiler: the next president is a woman.

#5 | Posted by PussyFort at 2024-11-05 07:11 PM

Russia called in a bomb threat to a black district in georgia to try and get putin's puppet re elected

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-05 07:15 PM

Harris up 1-4 points in IN over what Biden did in red areas. This is great news for WI, MI and PA as similar demographics.

------- would need to improve with those demographics to win those states, he is losing.

Georgia not looking good. HUGE swing of independents to ------- from Biden in 2020

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 07:16 PM

This is my America:

Both of the final living survivors of the Tulsa Race Massacre have voted in what may be their last presidential election. Viola Ford Fletcher is 110 and Lessie Benningfield Randle will be 110 on Sunday. We're told they both voted for Vice President Kamala Harris.
x.com

Nothing made me tear up harder than the old man who made it all the way to his car and then walked back with a cane to ask for a sticker: "I never got a sticker. I really want a sticker. So I can show my granddaughter. I'm voting for her."
x.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-05 07:18 PM

Republican rural votes come in a lot faster than Dem big city votes.

Which is why last time Trump claimed victory before the Blue Shift caught up and passed the Red Mirage.

And is what he will do this time, too, as Trumpers never did catch on that this is a phenomena of national elections.

Blue Mirage' And Red Mirage,' Explained: Why The First Swing State Vote Counts May Be Misleading

www.forbes.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:18 PM

If we have to build a wall you're going to pay for it.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-05 07:19 PM

Bomb threats in DeKalb County, GA have caused voting hours to be extended.... Thanks, Trumpers!

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:19 PM

Indiana already for Trump?

Tony 0-1 right out of the gate

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-05 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag

And Kentucky

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 07:21 PM

Actually about a dozen bomb threats around Georgia.

PBS has a more watchable coverage than most:

www.youtube.com

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:23 PM

#12

Red Mirage Victim.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:25 PM

If someone gave me a million dollars and forced me to bet on the winner, I would've put it on Kamala.

If I had a million in the bank on my own, I wouldn't have bet at all.

It is insane that Trump is close to Harris in electoral vote projections after the campaign he has run and all of his insane rambling the past two months.

#15 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 07:26 PM

It is insane that Trump is close to Harris in electoral vote projections after the campaign he has run and all of his insane rambling the past two months.

#15 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag

The exact reason I don't listen to legacy media anymore.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 07:28 PM

I think America wil prove unequivocally tonight just how stupid they are.

Abysmally, disturbingly, pathetically stupid.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 07:29 PM

#15

Flagler County, per PBS, is giving Trump a few more points this time than last time.

But then, this time they have a black woman to hate on rather than another white guy.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:29 PM

Friendly reminder to board up your windows in case the party of love and acceptance doesn't win.

#19 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 07:29 PM

Bernie wins reelection!

lol

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 07:33 PM

The exact reason I don't listen to legacy media anymore.

I mostly avoid cable news, even MSNBC. Too much talk, too little information, and too much sanewashing of Trump.

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 07:34 PM

NBC News projects: Kamala Harris wins Vermont.
x.com

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-05 07:36 PM

Georgia is looking awful red. Not sure if the 20% reported includes Hotlanta but if it does, it's gonna be hard to recover.

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 07:55 PM

I am on the emotional rollercoaster.

It looks like it won't be a Harris landslide. GA is looking red.

Too early to tell with NC or even get a hint at it.

But the fact it isn't a Harris landslide is depressing enough.

Hey -----------, if ------- wins may you get everything you voted for-that is the worse curse I can think of.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 07:55 PM

The exact reason I don't listen to legacy media anymore.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds

No you prefer to get your "news" from people paid by putin

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-05 07:56 PM

Harris will sweep New England and I mean all New England. She'll then be victorious in New York and New Jersey Delaware Maryland and Virginia.

#26 | Posted by Tor at 2024-11-05 07:56 PM

Friendly reminder to board up your windows in case the party of love and acceptance doesn't win.

#19 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Board up your democracy in case the party of russian puppets loses again

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-11-05 07:57 PM

#19 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 07:29 PM

Yeah?

But what about this?

shrimptacodan's November 5th challenge (is she up to it?)

#28 | Posted by Hans at 2024-11-05 07:57 PM

Indiana already for Trump?

Tony 0-1 right out of the gate - Eberly

Huh?

We might see IN turn blue by the end of the night. - Danforth

I'm here and I'm not feeling that vibe - but I admit, I might be missing it. - Posted by tonyroma at 2024-11-04 08:56 PM

#29 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-11-05 07:57 PM

Georgia is looking awful red. Not sure if the 20% reported includes Hotlanta but if it does, it's gonna be hard to recover.

Big cities almost never come in early because they have so many more votes to count. I don't remember any in 2020 coming in anywhere near poll closing time in Georgia.

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 07:58 PM

My apologies, Tony.

Thanks for correcting me

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-05 07:59 PM

#24 | Posted by truthhurts

Smaller counties are first to report, and most of them are red.

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-11-05 08:01 PM

Smaller counties are first to report, and most of them are red.

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Yes but the percentages in those red districts are all shifting towards ------- from 2020, meaning he is getting more rural whites, which is what he needs to offset any gains by Harris over Biden.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 08:05 PM

"Big cities almost never come in early because they have so many more votes to count. I don't remember any in 2020 coming in anywhere near poll closing time in Georgia.
#30 | Posted by rcade"

Independents are breaking Trump +10% in GA and winning black men at 25% per the exit polls.

#34 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:05 PM

Big cities almost never come in early because they have so many more votes to count. I don't remember any in 2020 coming in anywhere near poll closing time in Georgia.

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 07:58 PM | Reply | Flag

Atlanta, Savannah and Augusta are beginning to report.

#35 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 08:06 PM

Looking at FL:

Trump up by 12.4% with 87% reporting, this compares to Trump +4% in 2020.

Further, Kamala's total vote count in FL will not match Biden, probably down ~6% from 2020.

Also, Missouri called early, which would point to no big effect from Iowa poll. Either that poll was just plain out wrong or it was relevant for IA only.

#36 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:12 PM

Sorry to objectify the women in this day and age, but BBC has hot presenters ... with accents.

#37 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-11-05 08:17 PM

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

boaz OFFICIALLY HAS A SAD.

#38 | Posted by Hans at 2024-11-05 08:17 PM

#36

The premature electionators here are hilarious.

We'll be very lucky if there is a call tonight at all.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:28 PM

We'll be very lucky if there is a call tonight at all.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:28 PM | Reply | Flag

Wishful thinking...

#40 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 08:29 PM

FL abortion amendment (4) is getting less votes than Kamala overall and will fail. Seems the 'angry woman' narrative may not be playing out.

#41 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:30 PM

FL women only abort their male-ish fetuses... which is unsurprising given their husbands.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:34 PM

If TFG wins, will we be able to claim political asylum in a sane country?

#43 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-05 08:47 PM

FL abortion amendment (4) is getting less votes than Kamala overall and will fail.

Don't know where you saw that, but Amendment 4 has 57% Yes. If Harris was getting that she'd win the state.

The issue with the amendments is that they have to get 60% to pass and DeSantis illegally spent $50 million of taxpayer money to campaign against them, trying to keep them under that requirement.

#44 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 08:47 PM

Florida Amendment 3. Legalizes recreational marijuana.

This proposed amendment to Florida's constitution would legalize the recreational use of marijuana for people age 21 and older.

90% reporting Vote % Vote count
No 44.3% 4,522,885
Yes 55.7% 5,686,685

DeSantis et al made this a 60 percent requirement to win rather than the usual 50+ points.

Then he started lying is speeches that the Amendment would allow smoking in public, which isn't true; localities can regulate that.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:48 PM

Think I'm going to go to bed in 1-2 hours. Any bets on when about tomorrow there will be confident results on how the votes are swinging?

#46 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2024-11-05 08:49 PM

"Then he started lying is speeches that the Amendment would allow smoking in public, which isn't true; localities can regulate that.
#45 | Posted by Corky"

Every locality that has legalized weed has weed smoked EVERYWHERE. In parks, walking down the street, everywhere. Weed needs to be demonized like tobacco. If you smoke weed, you are not cool or edgy. You are a sheep. Why Hollywood chose to glamorize it is the exact reason why Hollywood needs to go.

#47 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:52 PM

Kamala Harris has won North carolina!

(Okay fine Josh Stein won the governor's race in North Carolina but why would he win the governorship if she didn't win the presidential election there?)

#48 | Posted by Tor at 2024-11-05 08:53 PM

TX is over. Call this state already and another Democrat fever dream dies.

#49 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:54 PM

Trump is leading Virginia ... just barely but we will see if that holds.

#50 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 08:54 PM

DeSantis et al made this a 60 percent requirement to win rather than the usual 50+ points.

Well at least Florida got to vote on it.

The California Supreme Court sided with Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic leaders in the Legislature on the constitutionality of a sweeping anti-tax measure, ruling today that it cannot go before voters in November.
www.capradio.org

#51 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 08:55 PM

#47

What needs to be 'demonized' are criminal traitor Pres candidates.

And nothing you said is anything but opinion, which we all know what those are like.

Localities can regulate public usage, and Wrongway Ron lied about that in ads and speeches.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:56 PM

If you smoke weed, you are not cool or edgy.

Chill, grandpa. Try some weed.

#53 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 08:58 PM

"The California Supreme Court sided with Gov. Gavin Newsom and Democratic leaders in the Legislature on the constitutionality of a sweeping anti-tax measure, ruling today that it cannot go before voters in November.
www.capradio.org
#51 | Posted by oneironaut"

Go read up on Prop 8 - actually defied the will of the people and disregarded their votes. Dems don't believe in Democracy.

#54 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 08:58 PM

"Trump is leading Virginia ... just barely but we will see if that holds.
#50 | Posted by Bluewaffles"

Fairfax only 50% in but Loudon nearly 100% so there is a chance.

#55 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:00 PM

DeSantis et al made this a 60 percent requirement to win rather than the usual 50+ points.

Then he started lying is speeches that the Amendment would allow smoking in public, which isn't true; localities can regulate that.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Some of us have been around here long enough to see you back Hillary with her anti-weed position in 2016... Glad to see you evolving like she did on the Trans Pacific Pact. It was the "gold standard".. LMAO

#56 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:00 PM

#56

You know, Trump is doing well as usual with male high school dropouts.

You should be proud.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:03 PM

You know, Trump is doing well as usual with male high school dropouts.

You should be proud.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:03 PM | Reply | Flag

Now the resident "christian" judges people based on their education.... I bet your savior is really digging you and your politics about now. seeing he was illiterate.

#58 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:08 PM


23 min ago
Voting services building in Pennsylvania being searched by dogs after bomb threat

A bomb threat prompted the evacuation of a government building in West Chester, Pennsylvania, where voting services are located, an election official said Tuesday evening.

www.cnn.com

Republic support for Vlad is still paying off.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:08 PM

"#57 | Posted by Corky"

Wow, a classist and a racist. Progressives really are evolving. Remember when they used to care about poor/working class people?

#60 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:08 PM

#58

I'm just quoting stats.... you seem to be the one with the terrible judgement to support a criminal traitor.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:10 PM


Go read up on Prop 8 - actually defied the will of the people and disregarded their votes. Dems don't believe in Democracy.
#54 | POSTED BY DEADMAN

Wow, never knew this the courts in CA are where democracy dies.

#62 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 09:11 PM

#60

see #61

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:11 PM

Where's all the JOY!

#65 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-05 09:13 PM

"Wow, never knew this the courts in CA are where democracy dies.
#62 | Posted by oneironaut"

Wasn't just the courts. The State (governor/AG) - despite the absolute majority voting for it - refused to fight the case in the USSC and thereby directly ignoring the will of the people. The whole idea around propositions to to bypass the legislature that ignores what they want so it is decided by direct vote. However, the Dems still found a way to ignore their will by refusing to fight it in court.

#66 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:14 PM

What's really funny is that the Criminal Traitor supporters are making the same mistake this time as they did last time.... not understanding the Red and Blue Mirages.

And... Ron's lies werked out well, the measure failed with 57 percent of the public voting for it.

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:14 PM

#58

I'm just quoting stats.... you seem to be the one with the terrible judgement to support a criminal traitor.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'll remind you that your savoir was a criminal that was executed for his crimes.

#68 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:14 PM

Uh Oh!

#69 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:15 PM

You're comparing Trump to Jesus?

Put the bong down.

#70 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-05 09:15 PM

"You're comparing Trump to Jesus?
#70 | Posted by Alexandrite"

Well, Jesus was a carpenter and Trump builds real estate - checks out.

#71 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:16 PM

1Nut 'thinks' being a lib means coming on a Yellow Dog site and only finding a modicum of mediocre relevancy by obfuscating for a criminal traitor.

Pretending that J6 was no big deal makes rwingers and Chinese immigrants look really unpatriotic.

#72 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:17 PM

There is a Benson marathon on Antenna TV.

#73 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-05 09:18 PM

#68

Not a smart way to justify your support for a criminal traitor.

#74 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:18 PM

The percentages are holding in VA ...

#75 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 09:20 PM

Not a smart way to justify your support for a criminal traitor.

#74 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same could be said for your support of a savoir. you want to argue his innocence?

#76 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:20 PM

Not a smart way to justify your support for a criminal traitor.

#74 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same could be said for your support of a savoir. you want to argue his innocence?

#76 | Posted by lfthndthrds

"savior" hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha

Stupid, and ignorant.

There is no "savior".

You clowns are a hoot!

#77 | Posted by billy_boy at 2024-11-05 09:23 PM

Since ya'll insist on bringing it up.... Trump matches the many biblical descriptions of the person of the AntiChrist perfectly.

Now, I don't know that he is, but I do know that they describe a vile, evil person who is supported by many Christians... and no one matches all the descriptions except Trump.

antichrist45.com

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:24 PM

"You're comparing Trump to Jesus?
#70 | Posted by Alexandrite"

Well, Jesus was a carpenter and Trump builds real estate - checks out.

#71 | Posted by deadman

DUMBMAN strikes again!

There is no truth to the christian mythology, no matter what flavor.

If there was, tRump would be the "anti-christ".

hahahahahahahahahha

You clowns are awesome, please don't stop :)

#79 | Posted by billy_boy at 2024-11-05 09:26 PM

AntiChrist

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

*DRINK!!

#80 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:26 PM

Ted Cruz just called the winner in TX senate. Looks like TX will go R by 10% vs. 5.6% in 2020. Same trend as FL. Seems to be bad news for Dems as these potential flip states go in the exact opposite direction.

#81 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:27 PM

#80

Sorry your reading comprehension level won't let you grok any of that.

But then, Trump voter, so....

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:27 PM

But then, Trump voter, so....

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:27 PM | Reply | Flag

And Jesus doesn't like trump voters: 1 Hesitations 22:12

#83 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:29 PM

We won't know the winner until fraudulent ballots are tallied. The illegal alien vote leans heavy to the Democrat party.

#84 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-05 09:30 PM

#83

No likes unpatriotic people who support criminal traitor Presidential Candidates.

Because it's so anti-American.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:32 PM

"#84 | Posted by visitor_"

Correct, Trump will win in the first 100% of the votes tallied...it is 100-110% where he usually falls behind.

#86 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:33 PM

We won't know the winner until fraudulent ballots are tallied. The illegal alien vote leans heavy to the Democrat party.

#84 | Posted by visitor_

Evidence for your wild claims, visitard?

It's true in your head so it must be right.

hahahahhahahahahhhahahaha

#87 | Posted by billy_boy at 2024-11-05 09:35 PM

No likes unpatriotic people who support criminal traitor Presidential Candidates.

Because it's so anti-American.

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:32 PM | Reply |

Can you point me to the scripture where Jesus expressed his patriotism?

#88 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:36 PM

Trump always wins the early returns; the Red Mirage they call it... because it's counting mostly rural votes that come in quicker.

Then he lies about winning.... until the Blue Surge from cities catches up.

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:36 PM

"Tony 0-1 right out of the gate"

No, that's me.

I'm wrong on Murcasel as well, and expect to be manning the egg-on-my-face booth all night.
~Danforth

#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-11-05 09:36 PM

Well, Jesus was a carpenter and Trump ...

Refuses to pay off carpenters and other contractors who worked for him and brags about it.

#91 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 09:37 PM

#88

I'm like most people... I just point at you and laugh.

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:37 PM

Dem Sen win in Delaware.

#93 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:38 PM

Glad I'm a Libertarian. I don't have to choose between fascism or communism.

#94 | Posted by willowby at 2024-11-05 09:39 PM

I'm like most people... I just point at you and laugh.

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's about right. That's what the uneducated who live off their parents do when confronted.. It's OK I understand. When you've never had to earn a thing, it's a common behavior.

#95 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:40 PM

99 t0 178

#96 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:41 PM

- what the uneducated who live off their parents do when confronted.

In psychology, we still call that projection.

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:42 PM

In psychology, we still call that projection.

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

In reality, we call it entitlement.

#98 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:43 PM

GOP winning TX by 12% and FL by 13% can be seen as nothing but an absolute disaster for the Dems. The Dems thought those states were in play and they have more than doubled their GOP margin since 2020. To early to call still though.

#99 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:43 PM

- Refuses to pay off carpenters and other contractors who worked for him and brags about it.

#91 | Posted by rcade

One of about a thousand things about Trump that his Cult HAS to ignore, because they have no response whatsoever.

J6 being the most well known example.

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:44 PM

Matt Drudge is practically calling it for Trump on his fromt page.

#101 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-11-05 09:44 PM

Texas is done.

40 electoral votes in the bag

#102 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:44 PM

NYT predicts 286:252 for Trump and 69% chance of winning.

In 2016, I followed them almost exclusively as their by county forecasting was the most accurate.

Polymarket 77%:23% Trump

#103 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:45 PM

AP already called it

#104 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:46 PM

"#102 | Posted by lfthndthrds"

I called it in my #49 - Trump was up 5% and Houston vote was almost all in. He is just running up the score in TX now.

#105 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:47 PM

I was wrong in 2016; thinking that America would never elect a black guy with a Muslim name over a white woman.

I was pleasantly surprised, btw.

Now to expect that a much more radicalized racist authoritarian rwing populist Cult backed by a fanatic religious faction will elect a black woman over a vile, evil, lying, character-free criminal traitor?

I must be crazy!

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:50 PM

I called it in my #49 - Trump was up 5% and Houston vote was almost all in. He is just running up the score in TX now.

#105 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag

Yep

#107 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:52 PM

I must be crazy!

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are.. Been telling you this ---- for years.

#108 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 09:52 PM

#108

You've been proving to everyone here for years that you never made it past the 8th grade.

Sorry.

#109 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:54 PM

"I must be crazy!
#106 | Posted by Corky"

No, you have just been choosing to live in an echo chamber detached from reality.

#110 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 09:56 PM

- reality.

Is that your cult leader is a lying criminal traitor... and that you and your ilk don't care about that fact.

#111 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:59 PM

Matt Drudge is kissing hardcore Trump ass right now lol. I think he may be paranoid of the camps lmao.

#112 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 10:04 PM

Is that your cult leader is a lying criminal traitor... and that you and your ilk don't care about that fact.

#111 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag

Isn't that strange that Corky would base his entire existance and salvation on a criminal that he didn't think was guilty of the crimes he was accused of? And even defend him? That is crazy

#113 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:06 PM

#113

Ok, 6th grade edumacation, then.

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:08 PM


I was wrong in 2016; thinking that America would never elect a black guy with a Muslim name over a white woman.

What are you talking about here?

#115 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 10:09 PM

#113

Ok, 6th grade edumacation, then.

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:08 PM | Reply |

is that the highest you went? Are you throwing that down as a bet? LMAO

#116 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:10 PM

#115

lmao!

You are nothing if not entertaining, Number Two Son.

#117 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:11 PM

I was wrong in 2016; thinking that America would never elect a black guy with a Muslim name over a white woman.

What are you talking about here?

#115 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag

He got the stramangus and now regrets it...

#118 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:11 PM

#116

If you are trying to tell us you never made it out of elementary school with those kind of comebacks, then you are doing a great job.

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:13 PM

*Harris getting slaughtered on Economic and Inflation voters*

Dems: "But she has good policies! You just haven't read them!"

So what?

Just remember who called it. I said this was going to be the issue that could sink her. I said it repeatedly.

I got called out repeatedly for just being "ignorant" of her policies.

No coherent message that she got out to the mid and low information voters on these issues. Ever.

POLICIES ARE NOT A ------- MESSAGE AND PREACHING THEM TO THE CHOIR AT YOUR OWN GOD DAMN RALLIES DOESN'T CONVINCE ANYONE OUTSIDE YOUR BUBBLE.

Maybe the Dems will learn someday. Probably not.

#120 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:14 PM

TX now Trump +13%....this does not look good for Dems if you project this on a national scale

#121 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:14 PM

Last update 10:15 PM ET

Exit Polls

www.nbcnews.com

This is a great graphic breakdown.

#122 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:17 PM

Looks like it's gonna be 4 years of Schadenfreude, laughing my ass off as idiots who voted for Trump again get screwed the hardest by his policies.

#123 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 10:19 PM

- Harris getting slaughtered

It's way too early for that. Her cities/states haven't reported most of their votes yet... aka the Blue Surge.

#124 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:20 PM

IA w/ 40% in has Trump +6%. Seems the garbage Dem hopium poll showing Harris +3% was just that.

#125 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:21 PM

Have to blame the Dems.

Putting Harris up to begin with was a stupid move that was compounded by how they did it.

America deserves what it's about to get.

#126 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 10:22 PM

- Harris getting slaughtered

It's way too early for that. Her cities/states haven't reported most of their votes yet... aka the Blue Surge.

#124 | Posted by Corky

No. It's not.

This shouldn't have been a close election.

But she is about to lose Pennsylvannia and potentially Wisconsin and/or Michigan.

I hate to say I told you so but I told you so for months now. Dems can't message. Suburban White Women for Pro-Choice wasn't the only message we should have heard but that's Dems for you.

"America deserves what it's about to get." - JPW

I agree with JPW.

#127 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:25 PM

The Democratic party foisted a post turtle upon us and is losing their hineys. Sadly we all lose because of it.

#128 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 10:28 PM

I seem to remember a poll that send you people into hysteria........

poll in Iowa ?

and there were people who doubted my doubt....

tsk tsk.....

--"told ya so"

#129 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 10:29 PM

It ain't over until black lady sings.

Trump was expected to be ahead early, she was expected to catch up just as Biden did.

Trump may well win with good rural turnout, but it's not over until the turnout in Dem cities is less than expected.

#130 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:30 PM

Regardless of how VA turns out (if Trump wins, he wins the election), but Trump is +10% in that state vs. 2020. That is not good news for the Dems in a state that should be their core group - we literally have Elon saying he will fire like 50% of of the workers there that overwhelmingly work for the government.

#131 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:31 PM

even the bitter and despicable Claire Mcwhatever agreed with me about Iowa poll..

aaaaaaah hahaahhahaha

#132 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 10:31 PM

I think we now know why the downtowns of the deep blue -------- cities have been boarded up - they know the incel Dems will go on a temper tantrum not seen since the summer of love.

#133 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:33 PM

NC is over - call it now. I think GA is in the same bucket. VA is too close to call but NC and GA have gone Trump.

#134 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:34 PM

- incel Dems

I bet you are fun at parties... what with that shade on your head and all.

"- reality.

Is that your cult leader is a lying criminal traitor... and that you and your ilk don't care about that fact."

Still waiting for an argument...

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:37 PM

Gal ... If you're lurking out there ... No matter the outcome I appreciated the respectful back and forth. Same goes for Lamp, Clown, Censored and a few others.

#136 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 10:37 PM

It ain't over until black lady sings.

Trump was expected to be ahead early, she was expected to catch up just as Biden did.

Trump may well win with good rural turnout, but it's not over until the turnout in Dem cities is less than expected.

#130 | Posted by Corky

Sorry. That's not true.

Pennsylvania doesn't start counting mail in ballots after the normal vote. They started being counted this morning at 7 a.m.

Most are already counted.

#137 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:38 PM

#137

sighs....

www.forbes.com

from #9

#138 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-05 10:40 PM

Don't worry though.

Harris has won every election where she has been the candidate (in California).

#139 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:41 PM

Putting Harris up to begin with was a stupid move that was compounded by how they did it.

America deserves what it's about to get.

#126 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 10:22 PM | Reply | Flag

And Hillary?

#140 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:42 PM

if she loses Penn.....someone is already writing story about

the jewish gov not being selected...

and all just to keep terrorists supporters happy...

heh heh.....heh heh.....

#141 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 10:42 PM

#137

sighs....

www.forbes.com

from #9

#138 | Posted by Corky

And what does it say about Pennsylvania? Did you read it?

Blue Mirage then maybe Red Mirage.

But "The state had a very pronounced blue shift in 2020, but counting is expected to be faster this year, Protect Democracy notes."

Again besides the point, this shouldn't have been a close election.

#142 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:43 PM

#140 And Hillary? By a landslide !!

#143 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-05 10:43 PM

#140 And Hillary? By a landslide !!

#143 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-05 10:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

LMAO

#144 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:47 PM

This ---- is all but over

#145 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 10:47 PM

Don't worry though.

Harris has won every election where she has been the candidate (in California).

Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:41 PM | Reply

Don't forget the most qualified candidate since the 1930's according to Tony.

#146 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 10:47 PM

Wisconsin will probably go -------

Harris is down 1.7% compared to Biden in key Dane County

#147 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 10:49 PM

-----------

May you get everything you vote for

And choke on the ashes

#148 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 10:50 PM

And the Kamala sycophants trying to sell her here as a commanding candidate who deserved the nomination because she's so "accomplished" blah blah blah.

Looking at people like Corky and Tonyroma...

You'd do well to drop any confidence in your opinions moving forward because holy farking chit were you wrong. Even if she squeaks out a win, holy chit were you wrong.

#149 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 10:51 PM

Don't worry though.

Harris has won every election where she has been the candidate (in California).

Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:41 PM | Reply

Don't forget the most qualified candidate since the 1930's according to Tony.

#146 | Posted by LauraMohr

Some day the Dems will figure out having good policies and being qualified isn't enough.

Just kidding. That won't happen.

#150 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 10:52 PM

"Some day the Dems will figure out having good policies
#150 | Posted by Sycophant"

What good policy do they have that Trump did not have first?

#151 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:54 PM

Dems have great policies. Americans are stupid

#152 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 10:55 PM

NY Times:

Live forecast of the outcome
This is our current best estimate for who will win the presidency, based on the votes reported so far and what we expect from the votes that remain.

Chance of winning
Likely Trump
87% chance of victory

Electoral college estimate
Trump 298
Harris 240

www.nytimes.com

#153 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-05 10:55 PM

Name an actual Dem policy that is unpopular.

#154 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 10:56 PM

Welcome to the Party Gal!

#155 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 10:59 PM

"Name an actual Dem policy that is unpopular.
#154 | Posted by truthhurts"

No ID required for voting.

#156 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 10:59 PM


Dems have great policies. Americans are stupid

#152 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

LOL

#157 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 11:00 PM

Dems have great policies. Americans are stupid

#152 | Posted by truthhurts

You can't fix stupid but you can message to it.

Dems refuse to do it.

#158 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 11:02 PM

And Hillary?

#140 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Is there a point to this stupid question?

Hillary was nominated through a primary process and was actually qualified for the position.

Neither of which are true for Kamala.

#159 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:03 PM

Name an actual Dem policy that is unpopular.

Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 10:56 PM | Reply

Democrats need to have progressive policies instead of being Republican lite. Until then they and we will all lose.

#160 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:03 PM

You can't fix stupid but you can message to it.

Dems refuse to do it.

#158 | Posted by Sycophant

Americans are too stupid to get the messages.

#161 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:03 PM

And the Kamala sycophants trying to sell her here as a commanding candidate who deserved the nomination because she's so "accomplished" blah blah blah.

Looking at people like Corky and Tonyroma...

You'd do well to drop any confidence in your opinions moving forward because holy farking chit were you wrong. Even if she squeaks out a win, holy chit were you wrong.

#149 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 10:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL!!

#162 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:04 PM

Keep in mind that the Senate is going republican and there is a real chance they keep the House.

This could be a disaster of epic proportions for America

------- will put on either 5 or 6 Supreme Court justices.

#163 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:04 PM

"commanding candidate" LMAO

#164 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:04 PM

Now they're giving her Cali electoral votes
LMAO

#165 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:06 PM


Now they're giving her Cali electoral votes
LMAO

#165 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

As they should!

#167 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-05 11:07 PM

Keep in mind that the Senate is going republican and there is a real chance they keep the House.

This could be a disaster of epic proportions for America

------- will put on either 5 or 6 Supreme Court justices.

#163 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag

I love you too!

#168 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:07 PM

Let's face facts. Kamala Harris couldn't even get her own campaign off of the ground four years ago. What made the Democrats foisted her on the body politic today?? Seriously?? She was abysmal to say the least.

#169 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:07 PM

This country is so ill. It's such a shame folks can't see it.

#170 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-05 11:08 PM

You can't fix stupid but you can message to it.

Dems refuse to do it.

#158 | Posted by Sycophant

Oh, they message to stupid.

It's just they message stupid ---- like Kamala is the first half black half south asian woman who prefers the strawberry part of Neapolitan ice cream to potentially be POTUS.

#171 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:10 PM

"Democrats need to have progressive policies instead of being Republican lite.
#160 | Posted by LauraMohr"

Your takeaway so far tonight is that the Dems need to run FURTHER to the Left? Really?

#172 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:10 PM

Let's face facts. Kamala Harris couldn't even get her own campaign off of the ground four years ago. What made the Democrats foisted her on the body politic today?? Seriously?? She was abysmal to say the least.

#169 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:07 PM | Reply | Flag

Your party should have thought about that before you anointed her without a primary. People don't forget

#173 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:11 PM

Democrats need to have progressive policies instead of being Republican lite. Until then they and we will all lose.

#160 | Posted by LauraMohr

Nope.

Sorry to tell you, but pandering to progressives as much as they do is the problem.

#174 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:12 PM

Oh, they message to stupid.

It's just they message stupid ---- like Kamala is the first half black half south asian woman who prefers the strawberry part of Neapolitan ice cream to potentially be POTUS.

#171 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:10 PM | Reply | Flag

But you and dumb asses like you want everyone else to relinquish power to that clown... ---- that.

#175 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:13 PM

Your takeaway so far tonight is that the Dems need to run FURTHER to the Left? Really?

Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:10 PM | Reply

Oh puhlease. The Democratic party is Right of center today. Has been for quite some time now. They are not the progressive party. Neither major political parties are.

#176 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:13 PM

I love you too!

#168 | Posted by lfthndthrds

May you get EVERYTHING you voted for.

#177 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:13 PM

"Sorry to tell you, but pandering to progressives as much as they do is the problem.
#174 | Posted by jpw"

Exactly right. If it were not for abortion in this election, they would have lost on a Reagan/Mondale scale. No one supports any of their positions outside of abortion and 'orange man bad'.

#178 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:14 PM

It's just they message stupid ---- like Kamala is the first half black half south asian woman who prefers the strawberry part of Neapolitan ice cream to potentially be POTUS.

#171 | Posted by jpw a

---------------, her campaign simply did not run on her identity, at all.

#179 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:14 PM

"her campaign simply did not run on her identity, at all.
#179 | Posted by truthhurts"

Other than being a woman. She could not run on being black as she isn't and the Indian voting block does not support her.

#180 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:16 PM

You can't fix stupid but you can message to it.

Dems refuse to do it.

#158 | Posted by Sycophant

Oh, they message to stupid.

It's just they message stupid ---- like Kamala is the first half black half south asian woman who prefers the strawberry part of Neapolitan ice cream to potentially be POTUS.

#171 | Posted by jpw

Nope. They don't. That's not a message to stupid people.

Harris had virtually no messaging on taxes, jobs, inflation, or immigration.

Policies? Yes. Messaging? No.

Ironically she moved right on everything, tried to stay above the fray, and lost. If she won, we'd be hearing she won by breaking with the Woke crowd and by being a uniter rather than a divider. Instead that's why she lost according to the data.

She needed progressive messaging that spoke directly to what people are worried about. And she didn't do that.

Dems really are that stupid.

#181 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 11:16 PM

Your party should have thought about that before you anointed her without a primary. People don't forget

#173 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Laura is the part who chose Kamala? That's news to me...

#182 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:17 PM

Matt Drudge is kissing hardcore Trump ass right now lol.

I don't think Drudge runs that site any more.

#183 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:17 PM

What made the Democrats foisted her on the body politic today?

Biden had far less chance to win this election than Harris.

#184 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:18 PM

------- will have added at least 5 SC justices on the Court.

Our country is destroyed for the next 100 years

#185 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:19 PM

"Harris had virtually no messaging on taxes, jobs, inflation, or immigration.
#181 | Posted by Sycophant"

How can she message when she is directly responsible for the disaster on all those fronts? If she trashes Biden, she is indirectly trashing all the incumbent down-ballot Dems.

#186 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:19 PM

Nope.

Sorry to tell you, but pandering to progressives as much as they do is the problem.

Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:12 PM | Reply

Her paling around Liz Cheney says you're wrong on that.

#187 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:19 PM

---------------, her campaign simply did not run on her identity, at all.

#179 | Posted by truthhurts

As they shouldn't have.

But it's all the talking heads on BBC keep blathering on about.

#188 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:21 PM

Her paling around Liz Cheney says you're wrong on that.

#187 | Posted by LauraMohr

That doesn't rebut my comment one bit.

#189 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:21 PM

Listen carefully, there will be plenty of people to blame

progressives
biden
garland
harris
institutionalists
antifa
blacks
hispanics

enjoy the infighting, cause that is all you will have

#190 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:21 PM

Harris had virtually no messaging on taxes, jobs, inflation, or immigration.

She messaged more on the economy, jobs and taxes than Trump did the final three months -- and her support for the bipartisan immigration bill Trump torpedoed was a strong message.

If she loses it is because America wants more of Trump demonizing "enemies," talking a big game, creating lots of mean-spirited distractions and accomplishing nothing he says he is going to accomplish.

#191 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:23 PM

Dems really are that stupid.

#181 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-05 11:16 PM | Reply | Flag

I tried to tell you that when your party appointed a candidate that had less that 2% when she primaried in 2020. Bad gris gris... you should have listened..

#192 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:24 PM

Polymarket is projecting Trump to be the popular vote winner (89%) - that would be shocking.

#193 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:25 PM

------- with a Republican Senate, Republican House, Republican SC

We are in for some serious pain

Abandoning Ukraine
Giving Israel carte blanc to genocide palestinians
tariffs destroying the economy
15+million people kicked from the country
A nationwide abortion ban
destruction of the administrative state
climate change

Oh and soon to be axed?
Same Sex Marriage
Trans protections
No fault divorce
contraception

oh and for the soon to come protests? Expect violent action from the US armed forces

I guess I am glad I am not Adam Schiff or Liz Cheney or Hunter Biden.

------- will let the DOJ go wild

#194 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:26 PM

-------- soon to be head of homeland security said he will deport us citizens who are family members of undocumented workers (who have been here for decades)

#195 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:27 PM

If she loses it is because America wants more of Trump demonizing "enemies," talking a big game, creating lots of mean-spirited distractions and accomplishing nothing he says he is going to accomplish.

#191 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:23 PM | Reply | Flag

Come on man.. that's not why she's losing and you know it.

#196 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:27 PM

"and her support for the bipartisan immigration bill Trump torpedoed was a strong message.
#191 | Posted by rcade"

If you thought that was a strong message, you need to get out of the echo chamber. Maybe it played well with low information voters (the Democrat base) but everyone who understands the issue is happy that it was killed. What Kamala, and Joe, could never explain is that they CAUSED the problem through EO and 'fixed' it via EO without needing any GOP support. They could have fixed from day 1 but waited 3.5 years because it was not a problem for them until deep blue city mayors started crying.

#197 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:28 PM

She needed progressive messaging that spoke directly to what people are worried about. And she didn't do that.

What progressive position was she going to bring on any of those?

She needed to message on those period.

Inflation is back to normal. Jobs are what I would expect for where we are economically and aren't a negative.

Taxes...what would be the message? They would increase? Stay the same?

Immigration was always going to be an anchor around her neck. They thought avoiding it would make it go away. They were wrong.

#198 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:28 PM

enjoy the infighting, cause that is all you will have

#190 | Posted by truthhurts

Infighting? I'm being vindicated, sport.

Nominating and supporting a turd like Harris in what should have been a slam dunk election is going to get some noses rubbed in some piles.

#199 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:30 PM

What did I say oh so so many times ... Abortion wouldn't be the issue (sorry ketchup bottle cosplayers) It was Inflation and Illegal Immigration. Looks more and more like some Mass Deportations are on the horizon and not a moment too soon.

#200 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 11:31 PM

Come on man.. that's not why she's losing and you know it.

You should comment less often if your comments don't even attempt to make a point. Nobody gives a ---- when all you contribute is "You are wrong. I disagree."

#201 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:31 PM

They could have fixed from day 1 ...

Trump didn't fix immigration the first time and he won't fix it the second. Too many Republican employers need the workforce. Trump himself hired undocumented immigrants all the time. He is manipulating stupid people who won't bother to look at what he actually does.

#202 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:33 PM

Infighting? I'm being vindicated, sport.

Nominating and supporting a turd like Harris in what should have been a slam dunk election is going to get some noses rubbed in some piles.

#199 | Posted by jpw a

You don't realize that infighting is exactly what you are doing?

I told you so is going to about as common as piss in a ------- diaper

#203 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:33 PM

"Looks more and more like some Mass Deportations are on the horizon and not a moment too soon.
#200 | Posted by Bluewaffles"

Seems GOP will have House, Senate, President, and USSC if this continues. Hard to see it not being implemented unless the GOP was never serious about it to begin with - and that would lead to a backlash like we have never seen before.

#204 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:33 PM

Trump didn't fix immigration the first time and he won't fix it now. Too many Republican employers need the workforce. Trump himself hired undocumented immigrants all the time.

#202 | Posted by rcade

Trump is no longer restrained by silly things like business owners and, silly things like the law

#205 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:34 PM

What did I say oh so so many times ... Abortion wouldn't be the issue (sorry ketchup bottle cosplayers) It was Inflation and Illegal Immigration. Looks more and more like some Mass Deportations are on the horizon and not a moment too soon.

#200 | Posted by Bluewaffles

You will be crying numerous tears when your orange juice triples in price and can no longer buy eggs at any cost

#206 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:35 PM

We could have 55 Republican Senators, ------- with a popular vote win, control of the House and 6 Supreme Court justices, a DoJ that is no longer independent.

It will be incredibly difficult to even confront him, let alone stop him.

#207 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:37 PM

Trump is no longer restrained by silly things like business owners and, silly things like the law.

Trump is not restrained by anything. He thinks the Supreme Court gave him immunity to break any law he likes.

#208 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:38 PM

Fox News just said the Harris campaign sent out an email saying they were calling it a night ... They must know something we don't ... oh wait we do ...

#209 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 11:38 PM

"control of the House and 6 Supreme Court justices"
#207 | Posted by truthhurts"

Control of the Senate and POTUS allows them to slot in a Thomas replacement. Hopefully someone about 45 years old and to the right of Thomas.

#210 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:39 PM

You should comment less often if your comments don't even attempt to make a point. Nobody gives a ---- when all you contribute is "You are wrong. I disagree."

#201 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

OK I'll bite

Immigration
Inflation
Interest rates
Second amendment
wages

What else do you want? You were told

#211 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:40 PM

You don't realize that infighting is exactly what you are doing?

You really expect me to just smile and play nice with people who let Donald Trump win again because they stupid, incompetent morons?

Nah. F&^% that.

#212 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:41 PM

If she's losing on message, can someone please tell me what TFG's message was other than revenge?
Americans would rather the country go down in flames than elect a black woman POTUS.

#213 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-05 11:41 PM

Looks like Trump wins. Now how will two men be able to have a baby?

#214 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2024-11-05 11:41 PM

We could have 55 Republican Senators, ------- with a popular vote win, control of the House and 6 Supreme Court justices, a DoJ that is no longer independent.

It will be incredibly difficult to even confront him, let alone stop him.

Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:37 PM | Reply

Thank the Democratic party elites who foisted Kamala Harris upon us for that. They are the ones to blame for this.

#215 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-05 11:41 PM

The ones to blame for this are the imbeciles who voted for Trump. Democratic voters had much more enthusiasm for Harris than they would've had for Biden.

#216 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:43 PM

Democratic voters had much more enthusiasm for Harris than they would've had for Biden.

#216 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yet Biden smoked her in the 2020 primary.. That's not a good look.

#217 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:45 PM

She got less that 2% of the vote

#218 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:46 PM

Looks more and more like some Mass Deportations are on the horizon and not a moment too soon.
#200 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Gonna be the first point of pain.

First, is when citizen get caught up in those drag nets and "constitutional conservative patriots" begin rationalizing the violation of their rights..that's a major step down a dark road.

Second will be when prices of good and services rise and everyone suffers. We either eat it or government gets far more involved economically than it has up to now...which is another dark road to go down.

We're in for a whole lot of pain and the GOP isn't even trying to hide it.

#219 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:46 PM

If Trump does win this - is there any way we can speed up the inauguration date so we actually have someone running the country? We all know Biden is not doing it and the voters will have spoken on Kamala.

#220 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:46 PM

Yet the DNC latched onto her for the candidate without a single primary vote...

#221 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:47 PM

Prediction ... Jack Smith leaves the country. Ole Liz Cheney will kiss the ring. Trump will leave the Biden's be. With that said ... I'd expect a few Dems and members of the FBI to be running scared because he will be going after them. I really really wouldn't want to be Adam Schiff.

#222 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 11:48 PM

Fox News just said the Harris campaign sent out an email saying they were calling it a night ... They must know something we don't ... oh wait we do ...

#209 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Those with critical thinking skills know we're ------.

Idiots like you are the ones on our knees smiling like a moron not realizing an eye full of ---- is in your future.

#223 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:49 PM

Harris will be off to political irrelevancy to never be heard from again.

#224 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 11:49 PM

If Trump does win this - is there any way we can speed up the inauguration date so we actually have someone running the country? We all know Biden is not doing it and the voters will have spoken on Kamala.

#220 | Posted by deadman a

just had discussion about that on ....I think nbc......Jan what's her name ...former PS for joe....said that yes.....

she thinks there will be a discussion on getting biden to go ahead and step aside....

#225 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 11:50 PM

#222 | Posted by Bluewaffles

You realize you're cheering the reelection of a former POTUS who stole boxes of documents and did god knows what with them, right?

You're cheering what is commonly known as espionage.

Don't ever call yourself a patriot you vile POS.

#226 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:50 PM

or step down ....would be more correct.

#228 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 11:51 PM

Yet Biden smoked her in the 2020 primary.

Biden in 2020 isn't the person he is today. He's 81 years old and four years in the White House has aged him a lot more than that, like the job usually does.

I love Biden more than anybody here, but he wasn't going to do better tonight than Harris is doing. She was able to make millions of voters enthusiastic and fired up to support her. Biden was never going to be able to recover from the major media hammering him for an entire month for being older, softer-spoken, and less rhetorically sharp.

If the mainstream press had covered Trump the same way, instead of the double standard where his age, confusion and nonsense didn't matter, tonight would be different.

#229 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:52 PM

I hope you all hurry up and leave the U.S.A.

#231 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-05 11:53 PM

before CA is counted.....dt is winning pop vote...that's before CA is added...and most of the west coast..

so I guess if that holds....no more talk of doing away with EC.....right ??

yeah,...right.

#232 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 11:53 PM

Waffles you have no ability to comprehend the personal pain that YOU will suffer.

At a minimum, you will be suffering from an economic collapse.

It is inevitable

#233 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:54 PM

she thinks there will be a discussion on getting biden to go ahead and step aside....

This speculation is deranged. Biden's going to serve out his term, as he should.

#234 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:54 PM

"she thinks there will be a discussion on getting biden to go ahead and step aside....
#225 | Posted by shrimptacodan"

They need to for the good of the country. Chances are very high Iran will launch True Promise 3 in the next couple of days and we need a level headed person making decision for the USA.

#235 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-05 11:54 PM

#230 | Posted by Bluewaffles a

Waffles, you will suffer along with the rest of us.

Tariffs and kicking out 15 million people will destroy the economy, and right quick and those are his top priorities,

#236 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:55 PM

www.nbcnews.com

Exit Polls

Interesting that Kamala is winning amongst those with family incomes of $100k to $200k and also over $200k. Trump winning with those whose family incomes are $30k to $100k. Kamala also wins with those under $30k.

I would have bet everything that Trump would be winning by far with the upper income groups.

Anyways there's a lot of other demographic data available at the Web address above. I'm also surprised by the numbers Trump is pulling amongst minorities.

Yesterday,I thought we would be seeing a blue wave across the country this election.

#237 | Posted by Idependant97 at 2024-11-05 11:55 PM

dt is winning home county of Walz.........

that has to hurt.

#238 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 11:55 PM

Personally, I think Biden should consider sending Seal Team 6 after a well known insurrectionist.

He has the perfectly legal authority to do so.

#239 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:55 PM

Sit down and shut up.

Nobody is going to be telling Democrats to shut up or go away on a Democratic website.

Keep it up and get reacquainted with the banhammer.

#240 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:56 PM

Well, since all of our lives are likely to be much -------- in the near future, I decided to at least make the best of tonight and tomorrow.

I've got a gorgeous set of beef short ribs currently braising and my house will smell like delicious caramelized onions, seared beef and thyme/rosemary.

Enjoy life while you can the next few months since I don't think anyone can predict the ripple effects gutting the US government will have on non-government jobs/roles. Certainly can't predict how willfully making unemployment jump many percentage points will influence broader markets.

#241 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-05 11:56 PM

I will be encouraging my daughter to take her great talents to Europe or Canada.

#242 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:57 PM

Oh and one last thing ... I told you all the dumbest thing you could do was go after Trump in the courts and that it would backfire in spectacular fashion. This was the Democrats biggest mistake. This was the moment you lost and I saw it from a mile away.

#243 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-05 11:57 PM

Biden in 2020 isn't the person he is today. He's 81 years old and four years in the White House has aged him a lot more than that, like the job usually does.

I love Biden more than anybody here, but he wasn't going to do better tonight than Harris is doing. She was able to make millions of voters enthusiastic and fired up to support her. Biden was never going to be able to recover from the major media hammering him for an entire month for being older, softer-spoken, and less rhetorically sharp.

If the mainstream press had covered Trump the same way, instead of the double standard where his age, confusion and nonsense didn't matter, tonight would be different.

#229 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-05 11:52 PM | Reply | Flag

If she loses you still have to reconcile the fact that your party didn't have a primary for a popular candidate.. That's not on me, it's on your party. Sorry, not sorry..

#244 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-05 11:58 PM

Bluewaffle will be SHOCKED when he finds himself on the unemployment line and begging for welfare.

#245 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:58 PM

This speculation is deranged. Biden's going to serve out his term, as he should.

#234 | Posted by rcade

tell Jen Psaki that..

I don't care...if things hold like they are.

#246 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-05 11:58 PM

If she loses you still have to reconcile the fact that your party didn't have a primary for a popular candidate.. That's not on me, it's on your party. Sorry, not sorry..

#244 | Posted by lfthndthrds a

That will have had zero to do with the fact that 50% of American chose -------. Zero.

Own the pain you will cause our country.

#247 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-05 11:59 PM

Is it too early to ask: Biden got 81M votes last election. How many will Kamala get? 74/75M? Was this lower participation or the final proof that 2020 was stolen?

#248 | Posted by deadman at 2024-11-06 12:00 AM

going back and forth between the 'big three"........NBC is kicking the other's ass on coverage and "smart" looks at the details...

#249 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-06 12:01 AM

Rcade, I'm in too good of a mood to get into it with you tonight.

#250 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 12:03 AM


Thank the Democratic party elites who foisted Kamala Harris upon us for that. They are the ones to blame for this.
#215 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

I said this the very first day.

RCADE laughed, who is laughing now.


The ones to blame for this are the imbeciles who voted for Trump. Democratic voters had much more enthusiasm for Harris than they would've had for Biden.

#216 | POSTED BY RCADE

BS take some responsibility, Harris was a terrible pick, going through an open process would have been WAY better outcome. Pete probably would have won.

Pete/Shapirio! Victory is ours

#251 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-11-06 12:03 AM

If she loses you still have to reconcile the fact that your party didn't have a primary for a popular candidate.

There's nothing to reconcile because your scenario isn't serious.

Nobody makes a serious primary challenge against an incumbent president of the same party who is seeking re-election. It is a strategy that always weakens the incumbent so much that he loses re-election.

#252 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:03 AM

Biden in 2020 isn't the person he is today. He's 81 years old and four years in the White House has aged him a lot more than that, like the job usually does.

Which is why I said then what a stupid, shortsighted choice Bide and Harris was.

I love Biden more than anybody here, but he wasn't going to do better tonight than Harris is doing.

Nope. But the Dems should have planned for a one term Biden admin. That had to have known 4 years would render Biden incapable of a second term...or, at least planned for it. Planning for it would have meant a better pick than a mediocre, back of the pack 2020 candidate from a solidly blue state that brought nothing to the table beyond shallow identity politic --------.

She was able to make millions of voters enthusiastic and fired up to support her.

That's yet to be seen. Last I saw, both were in the 50 million something vote range with zero large states left and significant portions of votes already counted. I'd be genuinely surprised if vote counts increase by enough to support your assertion above.

If anything, it seems like the same people who could be relied upon to vote just voted earlier.

Biden was never going to be able to recover from the major media hammering him for an entire month for being older, softer-spoken, and less rhetorically sharp.

If the mainstream press had covered Trump the same way, instead of the double standard where his age, confusion and nonsense didn't matter, tonight would be different.

#229 | Posted by rcade

Coulda shoulda woulda. Again, the contingency planning should have been for beyond 2020. Dems have showed, yet again, why they're a sad excuse for an opposition part to the absolute pile of garbage and bulls*&^ that is the GOP.

#253 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:04 AM

trump still ahead in Buck's county PA.....

that stays and Pennsylvania is trumps

#254 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-06 12:04 AM

RCADE laughed, who is laughing now.

I didn't laugh at the prospect of Biden dropping out and letting Harris seek the nomination in his place. I said originally it wouldn't work.

After seeing the campaign Harris ran and the enormous enthusiasm it generated with large swaths of the Democratic base, I recognized that I was wrong. Harris was stronger than Biden.

As for the idea that an open mini-primary could've happened between Harris, Newsom and others, I think that's extremely far-fetched. There was no time. There was no calendar for that to take place.

#255 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:06 AM

Biden should have arrested trump on January 20, 2021

Schumer should have held an actual impeachment trial

Garland should have actually done something.

These were the original sins.

#256 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:06 AM

Waffles is gonna be crying in his soup when ------- outlaws porn on the internet

#258 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:09 AM

I'd be genuinely surprised if vote counts increase by enough to support your assertion above.

I was talking about the millions of voters in the Democratic base, not the general election. I think you should be able to admit that Harris generated enthusiasm among a lot of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. There was not equal excitement for Biden this time, even before the major media hammered him for a month after his raspy debate.

#259 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:09 AM

Oh and one last thing ... I told you all the dumbest thing you could do was go after Trump in the courts and that it would backfire in spectacular fashion. This was the Democrats biggest mistake. This was the moment you lost and I saw it from a mile away.

#243 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Except there's exactly zero evidence that that's the case here.

#260 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:09 AM

Nobody makes a serious primary challenge against an incumbent president of the same party who is seeking re-election. It is a strategy that always weakens the incumbent so much that he loses re-election.

#252 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag

Really? Then deal with the consequences, because they had plenty of time to make it happen.Biden could have bowed out and the DNC could have ran a primary. Lord knew he wasn't running again..

#261 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 12:10 AM

Bluewaffle will be SHOCKED when he finds himself on the unemployment line and begging for welfare.

#245 | Posted by truthhurts

Or he'll believe the rhetoric telling him it's his neighbor's fault instead of his dumbass self.

#262 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:11 AM

Was this lower participation or the final proof that 2020 was stolen?

#248 | Posted by deadman

No.

Anymore stupid questions?

#263 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:12 AM

As for the idea that an open mini-primary could've happened between Harris, Newsom and others, I think that's extremely far-fetched. There was no time. There was no calendar for that to take place.

#255 | Posted by rcade

they picked ....2020....a bad time to alter super delegates...

#264 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-06 12:12 AM

Then deal with the consequences, because they had plenty of time to make it happen.

Trump is in more cognitive decline than Biden. Republicans had plenty of time to get him to bow out.

They didn't. Nobody does that. It would take magic hindsight powers and a time machine.

Stop focusing on stupid scenarios that were never going to happen.

#265 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:13 AM

Anymore stupid questions?

Deadman won't be asking any more questions.

#266 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:14 AM

Rcade, I'm in too good of a mood to get into it with you tonight.

#250 | Posted by Bluewaffles

You shouldn't be. For multiple reasons.

The major one being the global order that gave boomers and older Gen X the prosperity they've become accustomed to is about to come crashing down. Your greed made you stupid and we're all going to pay for it.

A second one being the economic pain isn't going to be relieved. In fact, they've already told you it will get worse.

I don't think you have a clue what you're unleashed upon not only the US but the world.

#267 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:15 AM

Or he'll believe the rhetoric telling him it's his neighbor's fault instead of his dumbass self.

"Careful, mate. That foreigner wants your cookie."

reddit.com

#268 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:16 AM

JPW ... I'm a Millennial.

#269 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 12:17 AM

AND THERE IT IS>...

" the country is not ready for a black woman potus.

give me a break....that's why she was picked to be VP....

#270 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-06 12:17 AM

Victory is ours

#251 | Posted by oneironaut

Ours?

Nobody believes you're a dem, -------. Drop the act.

#271 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:17 AM

Yeah that act is getting old.

#272 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:17 AM

I was talking about the millions of voters in the Democratic base, not the general election. I think you should be able to admit that Harris generated enthusiasm among a lot of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents.

If a song makes you run faster in place, does it actually help you?

If cardio is your goal, yes. If distance is your goal, no.

Increasing enthusiasm among people who were going to vote for you anyway is meaningless. Much like running in place faster is meaningless if distance run is your objective.

#273 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:22 AM

JPW ... I'm a Millennial.

#269 | Posted by Bluewaffles

So you have less of an excuse to be this stupid.

#274 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:24 AM

Increasing enthusiasm among people who were going to vote for you anyway is meaningless.

A lot of people don't volunteer, don't canvas and don't vote without enthusiasm. In a tight race the lack of enthusiasm for Biden was going to wreck his chances.

#275 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:26 AM

Cool JPW, I'm off to celebrate. Enjoy the next 4 years!

And Gal, Lamp, Clown and Censored, if you read this keep your heads up.

#276 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 12:27 AM

A lot of people don't volunteer, don't canvas and don't vote without enthusiasm.

#275 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

I did. I did with Clinton, Kerry and Obama. What did that get me? Nothing. Actually, it cost me. We lost the majority of out automotive sector to Mexico.Pipe and steel had already been shipped too Japan and China. I came from a family who voted on family values according to who took care of them and their livelihood. I watched jobs disappear. I went on to go back to school in the early 90s and went to work for a large oil company as a QA manager but I was one of the lucky ones. the rest of my compatriots had to deal with it. Someone explain to me why I should keep traveling the same road.... And do it without silly politics...

#277 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 12:40 AM

A lot of people don't volunteer, don't canvas and don't vote without enthusiasm. In a tight race the lack of enthusiasm for Biden was going to wreck his chances.

#275 | Posted by rcade

You're missing the point. More enthusiasm among people you didn't need to convince is meaningless. Those people talking to people they can't convince is equally as meaningless.

If vote totals come in below 2020 numbers it will be, yet again, another giant swing and a miss by the media.

Probably because they don't hire people who can think.

#278 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:43 AM

Someone explain to me why I should keep traveling the same road.... And do it without silly politics...

How about you tell us what you think Trump is going to do that actually helps any of that?

Trump is not interested in helping you. He only wants to help fat cats like himself. The same kind of people who closed plants and let all those jobs go overseas.

#279 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:43 AM

Cool JPW, I'm off to celebrate. Enjoy the next 4 years!

You're an idiot if you think the next four years will be good.

I'm banking on reading nothing but excuses from you on why the ---- show we get is exactly what you "wanted."

#280 | Posted by jpw at 2024-11-06 12:44 AM

My grandfather chartered a union and was a key component in John Julian McKeithen's tenure as governor in Louisiana. He and my Grandmother attended several gubernatorial balls.

I tried to follow his footsteps. Problem is, they disappeared on me.

#281 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 12:45 AM

My county in Wisconsin flipped from Trump to Kamala.

#282 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 12:46 AM

How about you tell us what you think Trump is going to do that actually helps any of that?

Trump is not interested in helping you. He only wants to help fat cats like himself. The same kind of people who closed plants and let all those jobs go overseas.

#279 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:43 AM | Reply | Flag

Really? Financially speaking? That's easy I prospered under Trump more than I ever did under the last three democrats.

#283 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 12:48 AM

What specifically did Trump do that made you prosper? I'm going to assume you weren't doing well when he handled the pandemic so incompetently that the entire economy cratered. But what did he do before that?

#284 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:49 AM

It looks like right now it's going well for Trump. That could change. But if Trump does win, try to accept that most of the negative things you have been told about him are not true.

#297 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 12:52 AM

Do we also have to assume that the negative things Trump said and did aren't true? He disqualified himself with his own mouth over and over.

#298 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:57 AM

JPW ... I'm a Millennial.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 12:17 AM | Reply

That explains so much.

#299 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 12:59 AM

Lichtman has already called it for Trump. The math isn't there.

#300 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-06 01:13 AM

What specifically did Trump do that made you prosper? I'm going to assume you weren't doing well when he handled the pandemic so incompetently that the entire economy cratered. But what did he do before that?

#284 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 12:49 AM | Reply | Flag

No, I was making well over $250K (as salary) a year when the plandemic hit. That was the hard part. I had a lot of my personal money tied up in the company in stock options. I was given stock options as an incentive over and above of my salary. In short, I was a partial owner. The stock options plummeted

II hope I never hear from another person who want's to over react to this ---- again

#301 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 01:13 AM

Lots of things were said by both sides in this election that we're just going to have to get past.

#302 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:14 AM

Not a good look for Hariss to not call the evening herself. Is she having a tantrum?

#303 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-11-06 01:20 AM

PA called for DT.

game over.

#304 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-06 01:23 AM

FOX just called PA for Trump. It's over.

#305 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 01:23 AM

Trump got PA

#306 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 01:23 AM

It's done

#307 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 01:24 AM

I'm conflicted.
Trump wins and I can gloat for month but then I have to defend every stupid indefensible thing that happens.
Harris wins and I have to listen to you all gloat, but I can ---- post for four years every time Harris has a misstep.

As far as the actual governing goes, neither one is up to the job ahead.

#308 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:24 AM

This is what happens when the clowns want herd the average Americans into a stall - and we say no...

#309 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 01:28 AM

God have mercy on us all.

#310 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-06 01:29 AM

Apparently Kamala did not show up at her alma mater to watch the election results with her campaign staff and donors. Where was she? At home binge watching Friends for the third time? That's despicable. These people worked hard or gave her large sums of money and she bailed.

#311 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:33 AM

Putin is celebrating! Ukraine loses their most important ally NATO is now in jeopardy. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people! This is not just a total disaster for the United States; this is a disaster for the world.

#312 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-06 01:34 AM

---- the Ukraine.

#313 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:35 AM

"God have mercy on us all." I'd argue religious thinking is why we have trump. Happy election day! Two parties stink.

#314 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-11-06 01:36 AM

---- the Ukraine.

#313 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:35 AM | Reply | Fla

And the politicians sending them money!!!

#315 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-06 01:41 AM

I'm going to bed now. Trump is well ahead. If I wake up to find out he lost like in 2020, I'm declaring shenanigans and we'll have to have a do over of the whole election. No shenanigans.

#316 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:42 AM

#315 Every "crisis" is an excuse for the well connected to raid the treasury.

#317 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:44 AM

If Trump wins the popular vote all of IL, CA and NY electoral votes go to Trump.

#318 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:48 AM

Congratulations to President Trump on a hard-fought victory against all odds!

To all you leftists relax and calm down it's only a four year term....

#319 | Posted by Javelin at 2024-11-06 02:06 AM

For a nation to finally wipe its ass of illegitimate political leadership is a glorious thing.

There were too many legal barriers and not enough restrictions on free speech this time around to steal it again.

The Uglies lost.

Isn't it wonderful?

#320 | Posted by Mao_Feasance at 2024-11-06 02:15 AM

And ---- Ukraine

#321 | Posted by Mao_Feasance at 2024-11-06 02:16 AM

---- the Ukraine.

Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 01:35 AM | Reply

God you people are so stupid.

#322 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 02:21 AM

Eat ---- libs!

#323 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-11-06 02:21 AM

"---- the Ukraine."

Only ignorant Americans still refer to that nation as the Ukraine! The neme of that nation is Ukraine, though now that Puyin's bitch is going to be President iy will just be a part of Russia and I guess the bitch's supporters will celevraye the demise of a democratic Republic.Hey, freedom is highly overrated! But as Ukrainians lose theirs I hopr Republicans are honest enough to take responsibility. Hey, who am I kidding? They'll deny it snd just preyend they didn'y ally with our enemy. This is the ind of night that eventually comes back to bite you in the ass!

#324 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-06 02:25 AM

The government of the Ukraine was installed by the American CIA. Most of the aid to the Ukraine was used to line the pockets of the politically connected in the US. Let the war end and the region heal.

#325 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 02:30 AM

Congratulations Danni, our State did it. I am so proud!

#326 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-11-06 02:43 AM

And in the end, America chose Hate and Authoritarianism over Decency and Common Sense. Don't say you were not warned...

4 more years until retirement...
4 more...
Maybe 2......

#327 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-11-06 03:49 AM

Visitor brought it up but ... this may end up being a 400+ blowout thanks to this ... en.m.wikipedia.org

Now let's see if you Dems hold up to state laws your own party put into law.

#328 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-11-06 03:51 AM

Drop o bunker buster on the Kremlin at this point.

I'm sure they had their fingers all over the election results. That and racist fascists.

What a stupid country we live in. We reelected a demented obese racist conman, who's nothing but a self serving -------.

Hoping Dark Brandon finds a remedy to what happened tonight.

If only that scared little bunny Merrick Garland would have acted a year sooner in the Trump investigations instead of dragging his ass.

#329 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-11-06 04:48 AM

As a democracy we get the government we deserve. God Americans are stupid.

#330 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-06 05:51 AM

And the thing is I mostly feel sorry for the folks who let their hate and greed allow them to be hoodwinked and brainwashed by such lies.

#331 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-06 05:59 AM

So, Does JD Vance get to appoint Don Jr. as VP when the time comes?

#332 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-11-06 06:09 AM

As a democracy we get the government we deserve. God Americans are stupid.

But the rest of the world doesn't deserve the leadership we deserve. Especially the ones living in poverty and oppression that are frequently the recipients of American bombs or crippling sanctions.
The American Empire won last night- just as it had won in the election before that, and before that, and before that.

#333 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-11-06 07:01 AM

The 4 year Biden administration was supposed to vanquish MAGA and instead it enabled it to become more powerful.

I had joked about Joe Biden having the same initials as that other brain-addled old white guy POTUS, James Buchanan, but when history looks back on his administration, it will be considered at the same level as Buchanan's- a complete and utter failure that tore the country in two and led to a hot civil war.

So once again, due to stupidity and hubris, America becomes its own worst enemy. And the ones who will invariably pay will be the poor and oppressed around the world.

#334 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-11-06 07:09 AM

Hey everyone!

Just got back online. Did I miss anything?

#335 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-06 07:16 AM

Great news for Censored. An invasion of Iran is back on the table.

#336 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-11-06 07:28 AM

So since the Dotard won, does that suddenly mean there was no cheating?

#337 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-06 07:31 AM

When they dropped Joe they should have picked someone else or just kept Joe. Here's a pro tip for Democrats "next time use democracy to pick the candidate".

#338 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 07:42 AM

Ukraine's war will be over shortly.
Israel will soon have the most beautiful developments rivaling Monte Carol on the west coast of expanded Israel.
Oh - and Palestinians won't be a problem any longer.
We're not going to have Income taxes any longer. Everything will be paid for by tariffs that companies in other nations will pay.
There's going to be a little "bump" as our new bestie China adjusts to the tariffs. Russia and North Korea, though, will immediately be our new besties. Beautiful love letters.
Trump will heal us all. Partly by disappearing those nasty people that have "threatened" him.
And jobs for Americans will be plentiful, a large part of those jobs will be manning deportation camps.
Prices will go back to what they were before inflation. Never mind the way economics actually works - or FVM/PVM concepts. Those are all nonsense perpetrated by "The Elite" of "Economics."

#339 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 07:54 AM

Russia's absolutely giddy this morning.

#340 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 08:06 AM

Orban hails Trump victory in US election as 'much needed' for world

#341 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 08:07 AM

Bolsonaro, Milei and Meloni are tickled to death (that's a thought..) over Trump's win.

#342 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 08:12 AM

Kamala courageously abandoned her supporters last night. Imagine that level of courage when dealing with a crisis. America chose wisely.

#343 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 08:17 AM

So is this the point where we start saying the Pubs cheated because it "feels" like they did?

#344 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2024-11-06 08:23 AM

Trump wins and has both chambers.

Shocked that many people - a mandate for sure - voted for him. Shocking that J6 and just the way he conducts himself and rationalises gets him to this point. America loves a train wreck I suppose. He's Joe Biden on sugar.

I said this before on here, maybe people need to see it really collapse before they realize the damage that can be done having this man in charge.

Musk and Kennedy with prominent positions for good measure.....here we go. Fasten your safety belts..not sure where we are headed.

#345 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 08:23 AM

Ukraine's war will be over shortly. - Never should have started in the first place but when you have a weak Dem leader, them's the breaks.

Israel will soon have the most beautiful developments rivaling Monte Carol on the west coast of expanded Israel. - Or Israel will finally get peace from a group of people that attacked and killed 1200 civilians...oh, and a group of people Israel provided autonomy and independence to years ago but the group of people proved they don't want to be left alone, they want to kill all Jews. The evidence is all out there, you just have to be objective and cut the puppet strings of your party.

Oh - and Palestinians won't be a problem any longer. - For the world's sake, let's hope so. Not that they are killed but that they finally accept Israel wants nothing to do with them and just wants to exist (you know, like liberals are saying Palestinians want but hypocritically do not want that for Israel).

We're not going to have Income taxes any longer. Everything will be paid for by tariffs that companies in other nations will pay. - Thus leading to more jobs in America; the job creation numbers in the last few months don't lie.

There's going to be a little "bump" as our new bestie China adjusts to the tariffs. Russia and North Korea, though, will immediately be our new besties. Beautiful love letters. - You mean having good relations with foreign entities. I am trying to figure out exactly when Dems decided that having good relations with other countries became a bad thing (without injecting made up conspiracies).

Trump will heal us all. Partly by disappearing those nasty people that have "threatened" him. - You mean like the Clinton's have been doing for decades now? Btw, even though both statements are stupid, there is way more evidence proving the guilt of Clinton's than there is with Trump, just saying.

And jobs for Americans will be plentiful, a large part of those jobs will be manning deportation camps. - So getting rid of people here illegally seems to be a worse proposition than turning Americans against each other, e.g. thousands of new IRS agents to ensure we all are controlled as much as possible. Oh, and jobs that solely exist to DEIvide Americans instead of trying to build bridges.

Prices will go back to what they were before inflation. Never mind the way economics actually works - or FVM/PVM concepts. Those are all nonsense perpetrated by "The Elite" of "Economics". - Dems have sat in the POTUS seat the last 12 of 16 years and the economy has been the same beast as it has always been. The only thing truly wrecking our economy are partisan people thinking we live in an economic utopia whenever their party is in the seat, thus not doing anything effective to try to make it actually better.

When you look at the country through objective eyes and not through your puppet masters' strings, things get a lot clearer. I'm not saying anything I've written above is true but they are just as viable as anything you've said. Get rid of your fearmongering and partisan ideology and you will be a much happier person and an American doing what is best for America.

#346 | Posted by humtake at 2024-11-06 08:24 AM

Musk and Kennedy with prominent positions for good measure...

That should be the entertaining part.

#347 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-06 08:28 AM

An Open convention would have possibly prevented this.

Kamala was a weak candidate. They should have had competition for the Nomination. Instead they installed another Loser.

I saw this coming but didn't Want To.

Will the DNC ever learn?

#348 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-11-06 08:39 AM

Musk and Kennedy with prominent positions for good measure...

That should be the entertaining part.

It's on record that Musk will make cuts where needed, while admitting "people will have to suffer for a bit".

That's assuming he even gets this new postition they talk about.

I wonder if they know that's what they signed up for?

#349 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 08:42 AM

That's assuming he even gets this new postition they talk about.

He certainly paid enough for it.

#350 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-06 08:47 AM

Kamala courageously abandoned her supporters last night.

This is stupid. The race wasn't called until 5:30 a.m. No candidate who is trailing would be giving a speech when it was still undecided.

#351 | Posted by rcade at 2024-11-06 08:49 AM

An Open convention would have possibly prevented this.

The mistake was Biden not stepping down much earlier.

My theory. They didn't want this, first, because there wasn't simply enough time. Would have been very chaotic and made the party look bad right up against an election with in-fighting.

But secondly, I don't think they wanted to expose really good candidates in such a short period of time. That's why Newsome or Shapiro, etc. wanted no part of this. They rolled the dice with Harris and lost. Those guys will be formidable in 2028 esp if a Trump regime goes as I suspect.

#352 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 08:50 AM

#351 Rcade that's pure BS. Her supporters were gathered and expected the person they supported to support them. Kamala didn't need to concede, she needed to graciously thank them for their efforts and support. She's a cowardly piece ----- terrible person. I feel bad for the people that worked so hard for her and gave her financial support (not the billionaires, the 5 and 10 contributors).

#353 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 08:56 AM

I am very afraid for many people in our country, individually and collectively. I do not believe in the Trumpian utopia some of you are predicting. I would love to be proven wrong, and God does often work in mysterious ways, but I do not foresee that happening.

My game plan is to live the healthiest life I can, mentally, physically, emotionally and spiriitually, for as long as I can. I'm not sure how long that will be if Trump tanks the economy as Musk says he intends to do and if he puts RFK Jr in charge of healthcare. I will always be grateful for the country that offered the medical care that allowed me to overcome Stage 3B ovarian cancer and that gave my significant other a second chance at life through the miracle of a new kidney.

For those of you who educated me, made me laugh, gave me hope and offered empathy, I thank you.

My friend Herman, who grew up in Nazi Germany and moved to America in his early 20's, had a Germany music program at a local radio station late in his life. His signature sign off was, "Be very kind to each other and remember who loves you."

#354 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-06 08:57 AM

Let the finger pointing begin:
Biden
Harris
Progressives
Moderates
Independents
DNC
Garland
Schumer
Young voters
Women voters
Muslim voters
The media
Bragg
Black voters
Messaging

When the simple fact of the matter is 50% of Americans chose the monster. They chose to destroy our country. They chose the economic collapse. They chose the deportation of millions. They chose corruption on an epic scale. They chose a nationwide abortion ban. They chose Project 2025. They chose a banding Ukraine. They chose a conservative Supreme Court for the next 60 years. They chose the destruction of the administrative state. They chose stripping women of their rights. They chose the military to put down dissent with the military and violence. They chose marching the us military into cities. They chose a DoJ pursuing a madman's agenda

They chose chaos

During a time of prosperity

They willingly believed lies.

American voters have no excuse to not know what that man is. None zero

May the American voter get everything they voted for

#355 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 08:58 AM

Yes, it is time to abolish the Department of Education with it's 50% failure rate.

#356 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2024-11-06 09:08 AM

"My game plan is to live the healthiest life I can, mentally, physically, emotionally and spiriitually, for as long as I can."

NW

#357 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-06 09:14 AM

#346 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2024-11-06 08:24 AM | FLAG:
And that is why we are going to get what we so richly deserve. Awesome.
Where do I send my "Thanks!"?

#358 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 09:15 AM

In the end, I think immigration doomed this current administration. Those TV ads I am sure played a major role in the vote.

They waited way too long to address it (via the OK Senator's potential bill), and I know the right didn't exactly play fair along the way - but you needed to make it look like you wanted to help make it better. Not even solve it - but at least take away a huge talking point from the right.

#359 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 09:16 AM

Grow up Gal, we're not Nazis.

#360 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 09:18 AM

"we're not Nazis"

Kind of failed that test last night. You are just ignorant of history.

#361 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 09:20 AM

(Also it doesn't help prove your point when Gal didn't say that but you still yelped...)

#362 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 09:25 AM

Exactly, Yav. My friend wasn't a Nazi either despite the fact that he was forced to be part of the Hitler youth program.

#363 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-06 09:53 AM

Gal brought up Nazis, why? Grow up. Quit calling us racist, misogynist, homophobic and Nazis. Accept that we won this time and work with us and we'll all be happier.

#364 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 09:58 AM

270
Gal brought up Nazis, why? Grow up. Quit calling us racist, misogynist, homophobic and Nazis. Accept that we won this time and work with us and we'll all be happier.

Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 09:58 AM | Reply

MAGA Is racist, misogynistic homophobic and their leader idolizes Hitler. It is what it is. Own it.

#365 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 10:01 AM

She brought up having a friend that came from Germany when the Nazi party was just starting, closed it off with a phrase he used that was loving.

You yelped for being called a Nazi.

You figure it out.
Or don't.

#366 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-06 10:01 AM

A dog whistle sounds like what?

#367 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-11-06 10:05 AM

Kamala and OBAMA have been thoroughly rebuked. I have renewed faith in the collective wisdom of the American people.

#368 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 10:26 AM

Kamala and OBAMA have been thoroughly rebuked. I have renewed faith in the collective wisdom of the American people.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 10:26 AM | Reply

Kamala yes. Obama not so much.

#369 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 10:29 AM

Obama was calling the shots and Biden/Harris was his 3rd term.

#370 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 10:51 AM

Obama was calling the shots

Looks like the dumbest of the six jeffs is logged on.

#371 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-06 10:53 AM

That is what I observed, Alexandrite.

#372 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 11:03 AM

So, do we nuke the filibuster now? With a Senate majority should Trump add seats to SCOTUS?

These are two questions that i will occasionally ask until someone on the left addresses it.

#373 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 11:10 AM

Go ahead, it doesn't matter. The ------- Supreme Court will harm our country for the next 100 years. More justices means that there is more likely to be deaths that can replace the justice by a dem president (if we actually have presidents in the future).

You no longer have to ask this stupid question.

#374 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:17 AM

Jeff, what stated ------- policies do you think will benefit Americans?

Please limit yourself to actual stated policies.

#375 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:18 AM

A much more secured border, for openers.

#376 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 11:30 AM

Xenophobia won the day. You mean Jeff.

#377 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 11:32 AM

A much more secured border, for openers.

#376 | Posted by BellRinger

what is the likelihood that ------- will get a better border security bill out of congress than the one Biden negotiated?

Are you aware that border crossings were already low? What will ------- do to improve on that?

Since the secured border cannot be separated from mass deportation, how will mass deportation impact Americans?

#378 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:33 AM

A much more secured border, for openers.

#376 | Posted by BellRinger

How will Americans benefit from having many many fewer low wage workers?

What effect will that have on prices?

Do you know? Do you understand?

What will be the effect on prices of kicking out the majority of, say, seasonal agricultural workers? Will prices to Americans rise or fall?

#379 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:35 AM

This country will thrive on a reduction of illegal border crossings. It will also translate to a reduction in human and sex trafficking as well as a reduction in fentanyl trafficking.

#380 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 11:40 AM

Gal brought up Nazis, why? Grow up. Quit calling us racist, misogynist, homophobic and Nazis. Accept that we won this time and work with us and we'll all be happier.
#364 | Posted by visitor_

You must be feeling guilty or paranoid or something. I brought up my friend who grew up in Nazi Germany, who I have mentioned before, because I wanted to quote from his radio show sign off:

My friend Herman, who grew up in Nazi Germany and moved to America in his early 20's, had a Germany music program at a local radio station late in his life. His signature sign off was, "Be very kind to each other and remember who loves you."

And truth be told, visitor, I wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to the people I was thanking and wishing them well:

"For those of you who educated me, made me laugh, gave me hope and offered empathy, I thank you."

#381 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-06 11:41 AM

jeff cant wait to pay 5 times more for strawberries.

because hes a xenophobic idiot that thinks hurting immigrants will help him. the economy is about to go into the toilet again.

#382 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-06 11:43 AM

This country will thrive on a reduction of illegal border crossings. It will also translate to a reduction in human and sex trafficking as well as a reduction in fentanyl trafficking.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-06 11:40 AM | Reply

Your ignorance is duly noted. We thrive on all forms of immigration. The undocumented do the jobs that Americans won't do. As far as Fentanyl. That's not an immigration problem. Do educate yourself before you opine Jeff.

#383 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 11:45 AM

This country will thrive on a reduction of illegal border crossings. It will also translate to a reduction in human and sex trafficking as well as a reduction in fentanyl trafficking.

#380 | Posted by BellRinger

How will America "thrive on a reduction of illegal border crossings". Please be specific. I have presented specific issues. Please address them

As for fentanyl, you are simply wrong

But most fentanyl is being trafficked by American citizens, not migrants. Data from the United States Sentencing Commission shows that 86.4 percent of those sentenced for trafficking fentanyl were U.S. citizens. Among non-citizens, the data includes those lawfully present and undocumented.

www.kff.org

#384 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:45 AM

PS As I said, my friend grew up in Nazi Germany, moved to the US in his early 20's, joined the Marines, became a US citizen, married and raised his family here. He was not a Nazi. He was, however, of German descent, which is why he had a German music program late in his life.

If I wanted to accuse you of being a friggin' Nazi, I would have, but like I said, I wasn't even talking to you. Maybe you're the one who should grow up, eh?

#385 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-06 11:46 AM

www.npr.org

Prosecutors and defense lawyers say Haley's story is typical; the vast majority of illicit fentanyl " close to 90% " is seized at official border crossings. Immigration authorities say nearly all of that is smuggled by people who are legally authorized to cross the border, and more than half by U.S. citizens like Haley. Virtually none is seized from migrants seeking asylum.

#386 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 11:49 AM

Again

"illegal border crossings" are done, primarily, by undocumented immigrant workers.

these immigrant workers perform low paying work in agriculture and construction.

Removing these people from the labor force will cause labor prices to rise. More labor removed, more labor prices increase. that is basic economics, supply and demand.

Labor prices increase will have 2 impacts.

1. a reduction in the supply of those products generated by that labor, i.e. fewer crops harvested-this has already been seen after immigrant crackdowns
2. an increase in the price to produce those products passed onto the consumer

this is all basic basic stuff and something NEVER refuted by anti-immigrant folk

Oh yeah and removing the undocumented workers will result in less spending and lower taxes paid, including tax paid by people that don't qualify for the benefits that those taxes pay for. So basically just a cut in tax receipts

#387 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:51 AM

A dog whistle sounds like what?
#367 | Posted by visitor_

I really wasn't dog whistling you, but if I had been, so what? I have that right, freedom of speech and all, and like the Veep to be said, Don't be so senstive! LOL

#388 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-11-06 11:51 AM

Think how crazy an undocumented immigrant would have to be to smuggle drugs in-they would be putting all of their efforts to get into America at risk.

And think how insane it is that cartels would want to take chances smuggling drugs in with undocumented immigrants.

#389 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 11:53 AM

Jeff cannot and will not answer my questions

#390 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:06 PM

-This country will thrive on a reduction of illegal border crossings

You believe we will see a reduction in that?

This is such a sensitive political topic, it's hard to believe anybody when it's being discussed.

But let me promise you this......we're going to get the labor.

legal or illegal. Take your pick

we're going to get the labor

The Ag and Food processing/distribution industry will see to it.

#391 | Posted by eberly at 2024-11-06 12:17 PM

So ebs thinks ------- won't do what he said he will do.

People should not have voted for him then

Jeff is too chicken to answer

#392 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 12:53 PM

Don't worry, when Trump and company --- up the economy like Republican adminstrations are capable of doing - esp with a guy like Trump running the show - they'll blame they were "handed a mess" and Dems will again bail out the country.

But no worries, the top 1% will truly benefit. The R's are like an alien that sucks the life out of a economy then leaves it behind for cleanup.

#393 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 01:00 PM

You believe we will see a reduction in that?

Who knows, but be damn sure Trump will be out there with graphs and mouthpieces telling us so, and many will believe it without the fact checking.

#394 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 01:02 PM

With a Senate majority should Trump add seats to SCOTUS?

Why not? R's already "packed" the court with their poltical antics involving Garland and Coney Barrett.

I never knew the rule was when a sitting president has the Senate - you just push it right through regardless of an pending election.

But when you don't - you delay it until the next presidential election where the people can decide (eye roll)............

#395 | Posted by brass30 at 2024-11-06 01:08 PM

So I just want to get this straight... the left is advocating to allow the flow of virtual slave labor, to keep prices low?

#396 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-06 01:20 PM

So I just want to get this straight... the left is advocating to allow the flow of virtual slave labor, to keep prices low?

Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-11-06 01:20 PM | Reply

This is a capitalist country. You can deal with the realities of it or not. Your choice of course.

#397 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-11-06 01:22 PM

So I just want to get this straight... the left is advocating to allow the flow of virtual slave labor, to keep prices low?

#396 | Posted by kwrx25

Here, let me lay this to rest quickly.

the left is NOT for allowing the flow of virtual slave labor.

We are for a rigorous and healthy immigration policy that allows for a significant number of workers, who are paid and treated justly.

We are for a secure border allowing immigrants to come in legally, work, pay taxes, have decent working conditions.

-------- plan is NOT that.

You have been informed.

#398 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-11-06 01:28 PM

Game over. America is 6 months away from irreversible s--thole country status.

There's nothing we can do to fix the stupid.

Enjoy the return of polio, everybody!

#399 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-11-06 09:36 PM

Buh-Bye ------- COVID

#400 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-11-07 04:05 PM

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