Sunday, February 02, 2025

Trump Tells Americans His Tariffs Will Cause 'Pain'

A day after signing steep new tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China, President Donald Trump acknowledged what economists, members of Congress and even some of his own aides -- in their previous lives -- have been saying all along: Americans may find themselves paying the costs.

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"THIS WILL BE THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA! WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!)," Trump posted, in all capital letters, on his Truth Social platform.

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Thanks, Trumpers!

(I just can't thank you all enough!)

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 11:47 AM

So.. the price of eggs groceries and gas are definitely NOT coming down. Not until we feel the "pain"?

Gee ... Thanks for nothing.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-02-02 12:03 PM

What do you know, A second Biden administration after all.

Absolutely nothing.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-02-02 12:22 PM

A second Biden administration after all.

Planes weren't crashing left and right under Biden.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 12:26 PM

... Americans may find themselves paying the costs. ...

Nearly everyone besides the MAGA folk have understood that all along.


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 12:27 PM

Inflation came way down under Biden.
These tariffs are going to drive prices up.
Deporting immigrants is going to drive prices up.
Trump used grocery prices to get elected, saying he'd fix everything.
He lied.
Now he's finally saying what anyone with a brain always knew.
Americans are going to pay the price. Bigly.

Does this mean he's doing away with his plans for the idiotically named and conceived "External Revenue Service" (ERS) to "collect tariffs" from other nations? (Let that utter stupidity sink in...)

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 12:35 PM

Now he's finally saying what anyone with a brain always knew.

Promises made, promises broken.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 12:43 PM

IDIOT'S GUIDE TO TRUMP'S TARIFFS

US President Donald Trump keeps talking about the "billions and trillions of dollars" that countries such as China will be paying his government in tariffs he imposes. In this monologue, Post managing editor for content, Yonden Lhatoo, explains why it does not work like that at all.

www.youtube.com

3 mins from China... where the Red MAGA hats are made.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 01:17 PM

HOW BOUT THOSE EGG PRICES!!

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-02-02 03:07 PM

Trump is an idiot.

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2025-02-02 03:34 PM

MadSci is still on top of things!

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 03:36 PM

Always Wrong': White House Rages At Wall Street Journal For Op-Ed Criticizing Trump's Tariffs On Canada And Mexico
www.mediaite.com

... President Donald Trump's White House released a statement raging at the Wall Street Journal for slamming the tariffs newly-placed on Canada and Mexico.

On Saturday, Trump fired off his first tariffs against Mexico and Canada with a 25% border tax. Meanwhile, China received a 10% tariff on all energy products along with an additional 10% on all imports from China.

The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board penned an article calling the tariffs "the dumbest trade war in history" while slamming the president for the "economic assault on the neighbors."

"None of this is supposed to happen under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement that Mr. Trump negotiated and signed in his first term," the board wrote. "The U.S. willingness to ignore its treaty obligations, even with friends, won't make other countries eager to do deals. Maybe Mr. Trump will claim victory and pull back if he wins some token concessions. But if a North American trade war persists, it will qualify as one of the dumbest in history." ...


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 03:36 PM

POSTED BY MADSCIENTIST

Oh shht!

Look who the cat dragged in.

Sup Mad!

:)

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-02-02 03:51 PM

I set the over/under on how long King Dotard II blames Diamond Joe for anything, from a loud fart to the impending cancellation of SS checks at four years ...

#14 | Posted by catdog at 2025-02-02 03:54 PM

As to Old Orange Julius's financial acumen, understandings, and behaviors please consider the following: of the six businesses he drove into Chapter 11 bankruptcy three were ... wait for it ... yuuuge gambling dens where the house cannot lose (until Mr. Stable Genius showed up). This mook has no idea what he's doing, other than grifting and thieving,

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-02-02 04:05 PM

MAD! Yes!
Good to see you!

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2025-02-02 04:12 PM

Trump Orders Tariffs on Trade Partners
www.dtnpf.com

... Rep. Angie Craig, D-Minn., ranking member of the House Agriculture Committee, criticized the tariffs for potentially driving up costs for a range of imported products.

"No one wins in a trade war. The last time President Trump started a trade war, costs went up for America's family farmers and consumers," Craig said. "The same will happen today. The cost of imported goods like oil, lumber, avocados, tomatoes, bell peppers, lettuce, broccoli, cucumbers, onions and mushrooms and other fresh food are likely to go up for Americans. At a time when farmers are struggling with high input costs and the American people continue to struggle with the cost of groceries, these tariffs will make it more expensive for farmers to grow food and for consumers to buy it. Additionally, when American farmers face the inevitable retaliatory tariffs from our trading partners, their profits take a hit. This action is especially questionable since President Trump's previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA -- with Canada and Mexico."

Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development (MDARD) Director Tim Boring said he had "extensive conversations with farmers and other stakeholders" who raised concerns about tariffs.

"While there are still a lot of unknowns, it's important to remember two things: Canada and Mexico are our biggest export destinations, and the last time this happened, retaliatory tariffs specifically targeted agriculture," Boring said.

Mark McHague, president of the Nebraska Farm Bureau, noted his state's reliance on exports, which accounts for roughly one-third of farmers' income. Nebraska's exports to the top five agricultural products accounted for over $3.5 billion in 2024. Those sales helped support the largest segment of Nebraska's economy, which hit a rough patch in 2024, falling 17% as compared to 2023, he noted.

"Today's announced tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China, some of Nebraska agriculture's most important trading partners, only adds to the economic uncertainty which remains the top concern at dinner tables on farms and ranches across our state and nation," McHague said.

McHague also pointed out that U.S. farmers rely on Canada for 80% of the potash fertilizer used, as well as imported crop-protection tools and energy. ...


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 04:18 PM

All those red state farmers, when you go belly up, stay the ---- out of California this time. You weren't welcome in the 1930s, you aren't welcome now.

#18 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 04:33 PM

Obviously, (1) these tariffs are the dumbest move in history and (2) we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders.

So, my question is, who is going to blink first?

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 04:38 PM

All those red state farmers, when you go belly up, stay the ---- out of California this time.

#18 | Posted by dibblda

Donald is going to give them all direct welfare payments to compensate for the failure of his economic aggression, just as he did last time.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:43 PM

So, my question is, who is going to blink first?

#19 | Posted by Twinpac

No one is going to blink at all.

1) If the Mexicans and Canadians roll over on this they may as well surrender to Donald permanently. The Chinese, of course, are just laughing their asses off.

2) Donald's pride won't allow him to back down from something like this. He's going to ride this stupid flaming pile of ---- right into the ground.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:46 PM

Welcome to the MAGA Age of Stupid.

In their stupid world, each MAGA is king.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:48 PM

Ummm well at least he acknowledged they will cause pain

But ummm why do them? Had he explained that yet?

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 04:49 PM

Back down how? Wtf is the idiot trying to achieve?

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 04:49 PM

"2) Donald's pride won't allow him to back down from something like this. He's going to ride this stupid flaming pile of ---- right into the ground."

Also the US repeatedly rips up treaties that we signed. Who will do business with us in the future?

#25 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-02-02 04:50 PM

I can see the MAGA hordes now, fighting each other over the last Mexican avocado to get their share of guacamole for the Super Bowl.

As for hamburger? Get used to it, MAGA. If you want protein apart from peanut butter then fry up some of your ignorant home-schooled MAGA babies. It looks like your ban on abortion was good for something after all.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:53 PM

So is Trump admitting he lied? Or is he admitting he's ignorant about such things? Or are MAGA supporters just stupid, and willing to swallow anything he says?

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-02-02 04:55 PM

Or are MAGA supporters just stupid, and willing to swallow anything he says?

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft

They believed Donald when he said that the tariffs would bring unbridled American prosperity.

Now that it won't they're going to be fine with it.

They have cerebral fluid where their brains ought to be.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-02-02 04:59 PM

As for hamburger? Get used to it, MAGA. If you want protein apart from peanut butter then fry up some of your ignorant home-schooled MAGA babies. It looks like your ban on abortion was good for something after all.

#26 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2

Soylent Green is rape babies!

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:03 PM

Obviously, (1) these tariffs are the dumbest move in history and (2) we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders.
- twinpac.

Idk reviewing how it affects China, it's not a bad move.

See a company from my homeland, can ship into US if under $800.00 no charge, even copyrighted material. On the cheap. Amazon is doing this.

But for a US company to import into US and inventory, and sell. There's a 20% markup in paperwork and labor, regulations.

Seems reasonable to lock this down.

Trump gave Mexico and Canada options, why wouldn't a country and it's allies want to crack down on fentanyl?

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM

Smoot Hawley 2.0. It screwed us then. It will screw us now. Did nobody learn anything from Ferris Bueller's day off??

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-02 05:12 PM

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM | Reply

That's not what's going to save lives nimrod. People will continue to die from drug trafficking as long as people continue to do drugs. Just sayin

#32 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-02-02 05:16 PM

Hate to be here, but isn't saving 100,000 lives worth the extra cost of bacon?

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:06 PM | Reply

What will be the effect on drug use by higher prices, higher inflation and higher unemployment?

Do you have a brain?

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:30 PM

America has been given a long overdue gift. A gift from all of the people around the world it has used, abused and threatened- injured and maimed for the past 180+ years. A gift from the Native American indigenous tribes, the Mexicans, the Cubans, the Palestinians, Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians, Panamanians, Libyans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, Chileans, Iranians, Somalians, Yemenis, Sudanese, Angolans, Lebanese, Cambodians, Haitians, Paraguayans... The gift is a mirror. A special mirror to reflect the stark moral ugliness and ideological brutality of what America now (and perhaps forever) represents. A mirror angled inwards in such a manner as to inflict some of the intense pain and suffering that for so long America has inflicted upon so many other peoples of the world.

The mirror is Donald J. Trump.

#34 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-02-02 05:33 PM


What will be the effect on drug use by higher prices, higher inflation and higher unemployment?
Do you have a brain?
#33 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

What will the affect on drug use be if you do nothing? 100,000 dead which would you prefer?

Do you have any heart?

Because clearly you don't have a brain.

Your theatrics aside, reading about tariffs an interesting problem. Immediately a product you might use will increase. Then US companies will invest in creating a domestic competitor and employ people to make it. Creating jobs, an as competition increases, hopefully lower prices.

That is the point of tariffs.

The US has a tariff on light duty trucks (25%) known as the chicken tax, this tariff employs millions of citizens. In fact it was the only profitable vehicle category in the big 3 carline up. It brought Japanese manufactures INTO the US and Mexico.

Incredible, where its the unemployment from that tariff, truthlies?

Here;s an interesting link describing what I was mentioning in my previous post.
threadreaderapp.com

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:42 PM


That's not what's going to save lives nimrod. People will continue to die from drug trafficking as long as people continue to do drugs. Just sayin
#32 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

It will save lives of people dying of fentanyl,

Limiting the supply most certainly will lower the number of people dying due to Fentanyl.
usafacts.org

How is doing nothing like San Francisco going?

Lumpers only have name calling and gross misinformation, and mischaracterizations.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:45 PM

Here's another thought about who is going to blink first.

U.S border states from Washington to New England import a large percentage their electricity from Canadian grids.

I wonder what would happen if Canada's P.M. hit THAT toggle switch and those border states experienced black or brown outs for a long period of time.

Upsetting the balance of trading electricity between Canada and the U.S. is already being considered by our northern neighbor.

#37 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 05:47 PM


Smoot Hawley 2.0. It screwed us then. It will screw us now. Did nobody learn anything from Ferris Bueller's day off??
#31 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

How is Smoot Hawley different than what Trump has implemented?

If you can't describe the difference, then you clearly don't know what you're taking about.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:47 PM


I wonder what would happen if Canada's P.M. hit THAT toggle switch and those border states experienced black or brown outs for a long period of time.

The US would shut off Canadian oil that runs through the US via pipeline.
x.com

You guys lack even a basic intelligent response to what Trump is doing.

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 05:49 PM

Just a reminder that the US Mexico and Canada had been operating under a trade agreement signed by ... (checks notes) ... -------

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 05:56 PM

IAMRUNT backed the------------- as he killed 1.2 million Americans.

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 05:56 PM

There's a lot of talk about new tariffs into US, but what about existing duties charged by other countries against US goods? Why is that info so hard to find now? I was able to find it before, at least for China. Today, no matter how specifically it's phrased, google only returns the same 'Trump tariff' articles.

#42 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:05 PM

#35 | Posted by oneironaut

You don't understand how a. drugs work, b. tariffs work and c. capitalism works.

When in the past 50 years has America been able to stop or slow the importation of drugs?

Here is the impact of tariffs in the real world:

1. Price on imported goods increase
2. Price of domestic good that is equivalent increases because supply of said good increases.
3. Since we are mostly talking raw product and/or parts there is no equivalent capacity or ability of domestic industries to match imports. Where are the trees and mills that will make up for the lost imports? Where are the farms that suddenly will grow fruits and vegetables that do not grow in our climate? Where in our country is the type of crude oil we import? How is transportation of oil and gas to the areas that need it (Northeast and north west) factored in?
4. Domestic corporations in similar industries to those impacted by importation WILL increase their prices, cause they can
5. Retaliatory tariffs will cause our industries/farmers to not be able to sell their crop. They grew a crop for export, that crop is not needed here. Those farmers will need to be bailed out.

These are simple commonly known concepts of tariffs, EVEN ------- has finally admitted it.

To what purpose?

Fentanyl will NOT stop flowing into America.

Here is a basic fact-supply and demand. If there is a demand a supply will find a way.

And again, what will be the impact on drug use/abuse by higher prices, lower buying power and higher unemployment?

Hint, drug use/abuse will skyrocket, like it did the last time ------- was in office and ------ up the covid response.

I really am tired of stupid people

You have been informed and educated. Be a better person.

Truth Hurts

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:10 PM

I'll also point out the 'retaliatory tariff' non sequitur- that is, according to TDS logic, 'tariffs only hurt Americans', so would the retaliatory tariffs only hurt the citizens of the countries imposing them?

"Oh, you hurt yourself! Now I'm going to hurt myself to get back at you!"
"How d'ya like that, lil' Donnie?"

#44 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:11 PM

here's a lot of talk about new tariffs into US, but what about existing duties charged by other countries against US goods? Why is that info so hard to find now? I was able to find it before, at least for China. Today, no matter how specifically it's phrased, google only returns the same 'Trump tariff' articles.

#42 | Posted by bootyhunter

ummm who is the CEO of google? Now see the relationship of that person with Trump.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:12 PM

Really we should have never allowed duty-free access to ANYONE, because NO ONE allows duty-free access to us.
I expect the architects of this system did it as a corrupt action for personal gain of some sort.

#46 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:15 PM

'Here is a basic fact-supply and demand. If there is a demand a supply will find a way.'

Which is EXACTLY why gun laws don't work.

#47 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-02-02 06:16 PM

Which is EXACTLY why gun laws don't work.

#47 | Posted by gracieamazed

Funny how they work fine in other countries.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-02-02 06:24 PM

Trump promised is that foreign nations would be paying the tariffs, not Americans. Was he lying? He's never been known to lie to us before.

#49 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-02-02 06:50 PM

According to the shills American tariffs will only hurt American citizens and thanks to the powers of shill magic, tariffs from other countries will also only hurt American citizens.

#50 | Posted by bootyhunter at 2025-02-02 06:52 PM

According to the shills American tariffs will only hurt American citizens and thanks to the powers of shill magic, tariffs from other countries will also only hurt American citizens.

#50 | Posted by bootyhunter

PSST

Tariffs will hurt people of both countries.

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 06:54 PM

Amid Trump Tariffs, Farm Bankruptcies And Suicides Rise
www.forbes.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Daddysfist approves.

#52 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 06:55 PM

1Nut, most unsurprisingly, missed the part where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants.

Also, Canada will be targeting Red States, they say.

'
And Mad Scientist strikes again!

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 07:07 PM

Trump uses blackmail (tariffs) as a tool. Any clue as to what concessions he wants from Canada and Mexico.

#54 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-02-02 07:49 PM

@#19 ... we all know Trump isn't banging on all 8 cylinders. ...

I remain to be convinced that "we all know that."



#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:05 PM

@#20 ... Donald is going to give them all direct welfare payments to compensate for the failure of his economic aggression, just as he did last time. ...

Yup.

From the #17 article ...

... In 2018-19, Trump's trade disputes with China led to $23 billion in aid payments to farmers under the Market Facilitation Program. ...

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:07 PM

1Nut, most unsurprisingly, missed the part where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants.
- CoryDaIdiot

That's because it's a myth. The stat is from PoE. Why do you imagine they use US citizens at PoE?

Why would a US citizen NOT use a PoE.

Corkythebigot slurps up statistics that match her bigotry with considering why that stat exists.

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 08:14 PM

Tariffs will hurt people of both countries.
#51 | Posted by truthhurts

Depends upon the tariff, and how long it's implemented.

Also is the tariff on a monopoly of a resource.

It's blanket statements like this that put TruthNLies at the bottom of the intellects here on the drudge.

#58 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-02-02 08:17 PM

@#53 ... where 80 percent of drugs coming into this country illegally are brought in by US Citizens, not immigrants. ...

That got me curious.

Here's what I found ...

American citizens smuggle more fentanyl into the US than migrants, data show (August 2024)
www.kpbs.org

... At a recent campaign stop in the swing state of Pennsylvania, Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance talked about the efficacy of border walls.

"Look, no one has ever said a wall keeps out 100% of illegal aliens," Vance told a cheering crowd. "But if it keeps out 98%, I'd say we're doing pretty good. And that means less fentanyl, less drugs, and less crime coming into our communities."

The idea that more border walls and tougher enforcement on illegal immigration will stop illegal drugs from flowing into the United States has long been a political talking point. But it's become a dominant election-year theme since Donald Trump's ascendance nearly a decade ago.

And not just at the national level. In February, Republican San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond posted a video on social media saying that one of the things that concerns him about, "how people are just able to walk across the border and get here," is fentanyl. The implication is that migrants crossing in remote parts of the border are bringing drugs with them.

But data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other federal agencies show the vast majority of fentanyl comes through legal ports of entry. And the people bringing it into the country are native born Americans.

Approximately 80% of people prosecuted and convicted of federal drug trafficking offenses were U.S. citizens, according to Tara McGrath, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of California.

"They are people who have the ability to cross but also are going to be able to slip under the radar," McGrath said. ....


#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:19 PM

Your post literally makes no sense.

"Also is the tariff on a monopoly of a resource."

Like serious, are you drunk? or high? This makes no sense.

I reiterate. I am tired of stupid people.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-02-02 08:19 PM

It's fake chink MAGAts like IAMRUNT who are responsible for dead American farmers.

www.forbes.com

#61 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-02-02 08:20 PM

@#54 ... Trump uses blackmail (tariffs) as a tool. ...

Yup. But for what end?

... Any clue as to what concessions he wants from Canada and Mexico. ...

I don't. And I suspect that Pres Trump does not either.

But when he gains some simple concession from Canada and/or Mexico, it will be blasted all over the right-wing media as a stunning, awe-inspiring success.

In the short term.

As the Countries who have been our friends for decades may now be looking at us as an unreliable trade partner.

Again, from the article in #17 ...

...This action is especially questionable since President Trump's previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA -- with Canada and Mexico." ...




#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:29 PM

previous administration negotiated our last trade agreement -- USMCA --

Must be why "YMCA" is his extremely gay anthem. He thinks it's the same thing.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 08:33 PM

@#61 ... chink ...

I do not think that such a racial slur is appropriate.


#64 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-02-02 08:34 PM

I do not think that such a racial slur is appropriate.

No. It's "DEI" now.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-02-02 08:37 PM


"US Citizens Were 80 Percent of Crossers with Fentanyl at Ports of Entry from 2019 to 2024. Generated with ElevenLabs AI technology. Many people wrongly believe that immigration is critical to the illicit supply of fentanyl in the United States."

Aug 8, 2024

www.cato.org

"Offender and Offense Characteristics4
82.8% of fentanyl trafficking offenders were men.
41.0% were Hispanic, 37.4% were Black, 19.9% were White, and
1.7% were Other races.
Their average age was 34 years.
86.2% were United States citizens
more

www.ussc.gov

Most Sentenced for Trafficking Fentanyl are U.S. Citizens

www.kff.org

OF all the dumbasses we have around here, 1Nut Trumps all of them.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2025-02-02 08:39 PM

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