Trump Selects J.D. Vance as Running Mate

Monday, July 15, 2024

Former President Donald Trump named Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate for the 2024 presidential ticket, just days after an assassination attempt at a rally in Pennsylvania.

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... The announcement came Monday as members of the party gathered in Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention. Trump's campaign revealed little about the presumptive GOP nominee's top considerations until then, saying anyone who claimed to know specifics was "lying unless that person is named Donald J. Trump." ...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-15 03:12 PM | Reply

Bad pick. JD Vance brings nothing to the ticket.

#2 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 03:16 PM | Reply

"JD Vance brings nothing to the ticket."

It will bring out the rural Ohio voters. If you're honest, you'll acknowledge this will be an aggressive, attack dog ticket.

There were definitely contenders who brought less to the ticket, like that governor from ND.

#3 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-07-15 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#2 ... JD Vance brings nothing to the ticket. ...

Well, there's the beard. ;)

If elected, he'll be the second VP with a full beard.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-15 03:29 PM | Reply

JD Vance?

And here I was thinking he'd choose someone to appeal to more moderate Republicans.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-15 03:39 PM | Reply

second VP with a full beard.

After William T. Riker?

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-15 03:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Hammer him.

But watch out for...

youth
military service
ivy league
modest upbringing public school

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 03:46 PM | Reply

"Vance has said that, had he been vice president in 2020, he would have carried out Trump's scheme for the vice president to overturn the election results."

WELL! Talk about your Qualified Candidate to do what's Necessary this year if Trump loses yet again.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

JD Vance is kinda vile. He loathes Trump in private but kisses his ass now.
Vance also used his book to throw the single mother that raised him under the bus because shes an addict. Terrible way to treat your own mother for her mental illness.

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump picking Vance is a giant middle finger to conservatives, but they should be used to it by now.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-07-15 03:51 PM | Reply

The Hillbilly Elegy movie is basically 2 hours of "my mom is a junkie whore" by JD Vance. Its painfully bad.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 03:55 PM | Reply

You can go from comparing Trump to Hitler in 2016 to his VP nom in 2024.

Didn't see that coming.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-07-15 03:59 PM | Reply

It will bring out the rural Ohio voters.

Republicans must be so relieved they'll finally do well with ... rural Ohio voters.

I know when Kamala was selected I exclaimed BIDEN JUST WON CALIFORNIA!

#13 | Posted by rcade at 2024-07-15 04:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

This only plays to the MAGA republicans. He was going to win them anyway. It really is going to come down to the undecided, low information voters.

#14 | Posted by byrdman at 2024-07-15 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In a 2021 speech to the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Vance blamed "the childless left" for America's woes. He praised conservative Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbn for encouraging married couples to have children and said that parents should "have a bigger say in how democracy functions" than non-parents.

Well he should do well with women voters

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 04:09 PM | Reply

#14

This is true... it's Indies that will decide.

I thought he might have chosen The Skirt, but I guess he feels he needs to keep the Base in line.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 04:09 PM | Reply

In September 2021, while speaking at Pacifica Christian High School in California, Vance said, "This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, 'well, OK, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that's going to make people happier in the long term.'"[91] Vice wrote that Vance "seemed to suggest that in some cases, 'even violent' marriages should continue.

Well, isn't that special

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 04:10 PM | Reply

So there will be no attempts to "cool it".

Or unite the country.

Just more:

Stand back and stand by.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-15 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Vance opposes abortion and he has indicated that he may support a federal ban on abortions after 15 weeks. He has more recently said that abortion laws should be set by the states.[66][67] When asked whether abortion laws should include exceptions for rape and ------, he said, "two wrong[s] don't make a right.

A RAPE BABY ENFORCER!!

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Tim Scott got married for no reason.

#20 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-07-15 04:14 PM | Reply

Well, that's the GOP gone Full Crazy Fascist Mode.

"Trump's VP pick is a naked authoritarian

The thing to understand about J.D. Vance is that he doesn't believe in democracy.

Vance has said that, had he been vice president in 2020, he would have carried out Trump's scheme for the vice president to overturn the election results.

He has fundraised for January 6 rioters. He once called on the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation into a Washington Post columnist who penned a critical piece about Trump.

After last week's assassination attempt on Trump, he attempted to whitewash his radicalism by blaming the shooting on Democrats' rhetoric about democracy without an iota of evidence.

This worldview translates into a very aggressive agenda for a second Trump presidency.

In a podcast interview, Vance said that Trump should "fire every single mid-level bureaucrat" in the US government and "replace them with our people."

If the courts attempt to stop this, Vance says, Trump should simply ignore the law."

www.vox.com

"Ignore the Law!" is likely to become the new MAGA chant.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's not the GOP anymore. That party is dead. It's all MAGA. They call it RNC for tax purposes.

#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-07-15 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They proved that RNC stands for, Red Neck -----.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dude sold his soul for this pick.

He's gonna get obliterated once the opposition research starts playing his own clips and statements.

But watch out for...
youth
military service
ivy league
modest upbringing public school

#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Don't forget hedge fund manager with naked authoritarian views.

As already mentioned, this appeals to the MAGA morons only. He's likely going to be a turnoff for middle voters looking for someone to temper Trump.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-15 04:37 PM | Reply

-As already mentioned, this appeals to the MAGA morons only.

That's what you can say no matter who Trump selects.

Because it's Trump's selection.

Obviously we want Trump to lose so I hope you're right and he is a turnoff for middle voters

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump should have picked Nikki to grab some of her voters.

Vance is a bland pick.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 04:42 PM | Reply

Vance looks like an evangelical so the Christian Nationalist will be happy.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-15 04:44 PM | Reply

Worst possible ticket ever!!

Might as well be Vader/Dooku 2024

#28 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-07-15 04:45 PM | Reply

Vance is ambitious to the point that he might declare trump mentally unfit.

#29 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-15 04:53 PM | Reply

It will bring out the rural Ohio voters. If you're honest, you'll acknowledge this will be an aggressive, attack dog ticket.

#3 | Posted by sentinel

Translation - 2 loud liars.

Trump just needs someone who is cool with having an authoritarian king and won't ever turn against him. Loyalty is the most important aspect of any criminal enterprise.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-15 04:54 PM | Reply

-Loyalty is the most important aspect of any criminal enterprise.

It's an important aspect of many enterprises.

You think Biden doesn't require and expect Kamala Harris's loyalty?

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 04:57 PM | Reply

Yep... JD becomes a Made Man in Mafia Don's Trump Family Crime Syndicate.

All he had to do was promise to be the anti-Pence and help to illegally overthrow an Election if necessary.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Hair/The Beard 2024!

I understand the Hair and the Beard are having, 'sleepovers'.

It's kinda disturbing, really.

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 05:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Why didn't PO1135809 just bring Mike Pence back on the ticket? Why would his original VP not run with him again?

JD Vance on PO1135809:

"My god, what an idiot..."
"You're an idiot if you voted for PO1135809..."
"He might be America's Hitler..."
"I can't stomach PO1135809..."
"Mr. PO1135809 is unfit for our nation's highest office..."
"...he's a cynical -----..."
"Obnoxious"
"Reprehensible"
"Cultural heroin"

Another upstanding Republican with moral clarity and conviction of conscience...

#34 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-07-15 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think for purposes of a national election it was a stupid choice. For purposes of having a VP who seems to most think like Trump, it makes perfect sense.

#35 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-07-15 05:02 PM | Reply

I dunno... part of JD's new job description is to stand next to Trump during all Rallies.

You know, in case there are any more trigger-happy disgruntled Republicans out there.

The Beard must protect the Hair at all times!

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 05:06 PM | Reply

It's an important aspect of many enterprises.

You think Biden doesn't require and expect Kamala Harris's loyalty?

#31 | Posted by eberly

Biden didn't fill his white house with his kids and promote his former bodyguards into jobs where they make a half million dollars to stay quiet.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-15 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Doesn't mean Biden doesn't expect and require loyalty.

and people don't understand loyalty....it has to be bought. Not just expected.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:12 PM | Reply

and maybe you're confusing loyalty with nepotism.

www.washingtonpost.com

I see that as nepotism.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:14 PM | Reply

Have the noxious orange pedo's supporters threatened to hang Vance yet?

#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-15 05:19 PM | Reply

and people don't understand loyalty....it has to be bought. Not just expected.

#38 | Posted by eberly

It's hard for people without morals to conceive of that they are like.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-15 05:21 PM | Reply

*what they are like

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-15 05:21 PM | Reply

"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical ------- like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler," he wrote privately to an associate on Facebook in 2016.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 05:22 PM | Reply

@#6 ... After William T. Riker? ...

Schuyler Colfax
www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org

#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-15 05:23 PM | Reply

and maybe you're confusing loyalty with nepotism.

www.washingtonpost.com

I see that as nepotism.

#39 | Posted by eberly

You can't tell the difference between someone hired in an irrelevant job as a personal hookup vs someone hired to serve beside the president because they'll keep their mouth shut?

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-07-15 05:24 PM | Reply

It's hard for people without brains to conceive......well....anything.

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:26 PM | Reply

" people don't understand loyalty....it has to be bought. "

What a sad little world you inhabit.

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 05:27 PM | Reply

-someone hired to serve beside the president because they'll keep their mouth shut?

Again....a standard job requirement for most reasonably successful organizations.

Are you employed? Have you ever been employed?

You've previously proved you've never actually voted.

maybe you're completely worthless........can you confirm any facts?

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:28 PM | Reply

loyalty can't be expected without something in exchange.

It doesn't have to be monetary.

It can be anything you value....

job security
fun and fufilling environment
future opportunities

it can't just be for nothing. Which one of you would be loyal to a company or it's leader without something in return?

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:30 PM | Reply

Vance is an example of ------- moving from the building consensus (Pence) phase of governance to enforcing his will (Vance) phase of governance.
this pick should scare the American people

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-15 05:40 PM | Reply

"Vance also used his book to throw the single mother that raised him under the bus because shes an addict. Terrible way to treat your own mother for her mental illness."

I didn't read the book, but if she was an addict, she likely threw her children under the bus. Most addicts do. I just read a review, which said that she was often violent and abusive and that he and his sister had 15 "stepdads" growing up. Terrible way to treat your own children. Do you expect mothers to protect their children? Or do you expect children to stay silent to protect their mothers? Today she is 6 years sober, a journey that began after the book led her to the realization of how her behavior impacted her children, so maybe "throwing her under the bus" wasnt such a bad move.

#51 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 05:42 PM | Reply

The Hillbilly Elegy movie is basically 2 hours of "my mom is a junkie whore" by JD Vance. Its painfully bad. #11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag:
Then why did you watch it? Are junkie whores your thing?

#52 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 05:43 PM | Reply

That's what you can say no matter who Trump selects.
Because it's Trump's selection.
Obviously we want Trump to lose so I hope you're right and he is a turnoff for middle voters

#25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

No, I say that because I see his X content daily and I know that once his statements and views are widely disseminated, he's going to take a hit. Or, I should say, I hope he takes a hit.

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-15 05:44 PM | Reply

"I see his X content daily"

Fair enough and maybe I'm no longer able to determine what pain Trump feels...because it doesn't seem to afflict him the way it afflicts most politicians.

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 05:55 PM | Reply

#17

That will definitely get Harrison Butker's vote.

#55 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-07-15 05:56 PM | Reply

@#38 ... and people don't understand loyalty....it has to be bought. ...

Apparently you don't understand loyalty either.

Loyalty has to be earned, it is not bought.

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-15 05:56 PM | Reply

You can go from comparing Trump to Hitler in 2016 to his VP nom in 2024. Didn't see that coming.
#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Maybe Trump took it as a compliment.

#57 | Posted by censored at 2024-07-15 06:02 PM | Reply

You're wrong about everything you typed. Yes...all of it.

I do understand it.

Loyalty, much like trust....is given. It can be earned or not. But the most significant action of loyalty is given...not earned. Earned just makes it seem right in people's eyes.

But you and I both know of individuals who have been given trust and loyalty...that didn't deserve it nor did they earn it. But someone GAVE it to them regardless.

We also know folks who have EARNED loyalty....and still didn't receive it from the folks they believe owed it to them.

People don't understand loyalty or trust. They wrongly believe that it's earned....because sometimes that's actually true.

But the real determining factor in loyalty is whether or not it's given

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 06:03 PM | Reply

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

... Vance has also called for dismissing scores of federal workers to replace them with Republican loyalists, saying in a 2021 interview he would "fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people."

Those remarks echo proposals in Project 2025, a blueprint being crafted by some of Trump's closest former advisers that calls for shuttering some federal agencies and replacing civil servants with officials deemed more loyal to the former president.

...

"Here's the deal about J.D. Vance. He talks a big game about working people. But now, he and Trump want to raise taxes on middle-class families while pushing more tax cuts for the rich," Biden said in a post on X.

The president's campaign also noted Trump's falling out with his last running mate, former President Mike Pence, over his refusal to block the certification of Biden's election win. Protesters in the mob of Trump supporters who marched on the US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 chanted "Hang Mike Pence."

Biden campaign chair Jennifer O'Malley Dillon said Trump tapped Vance because he "will do what Mike Pence wouldn't on January 6: bend over backwards to enable Trump and his extreme MAGA agenda, even if it means breaking the law." ...

#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-15 06:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Then why did you watch it? Are junkie whores your thing?

#52 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2024-07-15 05:43 PM | REPLY

Because someone recommended i watch the movie? youre a dumb person.

#60 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Loyalty has to be earned, it is not bought.

POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-07-15 05:56 PM | REPLY

Loyalty can be bought absolutely. Money talks and BS walks.

#61 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-15 06:13 PM | Reply

Miranda- vance made his political career by becoming famous for a book trashing his mother. its a bad look.

#62 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:13 PM | Reply

Money talks and BS walks.

#61 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Oh? What would it cost Trump to buy your vote?

#63 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-07-15 06:21 PM | Reply

Oh? What would it cost Trump to buy your vote?

POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2024-07-15 06:21 PM | REPLY

I'd off myself before that happened. Just sayin

#64 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-15 06:24 PM | Reply

-Because someone recommended i watch the movie?

Is there a specific scene you think is a bad look?

#65 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 06:37 PM | Reply

His mother getting thrown out of her boyfriends
place and he calls her a whore.

even if that were true i would never write an autobiography that made my mother look bad. the whole book and move are both a pity party.

#66 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:45 PM | Reply

Miranda- vance made his political career by becoming famous for a book trashing his mother. its a bad look. #62 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe he didnt know you'd be lookin', just sayin.
Look, I don't know much about this guy, Your #1 comment, which appeared to victim-blame a child for their exposing their abusive mother triggered me. Seemed kinda odd since just yesterday you were victim blaming the guy murdered at the Trump Rally who threw himself over his wife and daughter. You criticized a dead man for bringing his "child" to the venue. (His daughter is an adult)

The thread is still up, there is still time if you want to redeem yourself and show how compassionate you are towards this family (and call out people like you who "trash" parents even after they are dead). Scroll on down to #732, bring your friends.

drudge.com

#67 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 06:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"yesterday you were victim blaming the guy murdered at the Trump Rally who threw himself over his wife and daughter. "

no i wasnt.

i said children dont belong at political rallys where the candidate espouses violence. you are completely mischaracterizing what i said.

As to JD Vance ... if my mother shacked up with dozens of random dudes to get a drug fix i wouldnt put that in my autobiography, especially if she were still alive. its distasteful.

#68 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:52 PM | Reply

"calls her a whore."

www.youtube.com

be nice.......

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 06:54 PM | Reply

"Look, I don't know much about this guy,"

then go learn. im not here to play your willfully ignorant game.

#70 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:54 PM | Reply

Distasteful? Pot meet kettle. A recap in case you are too lazy... Somehow your response to my post is inconsistent with someone who wouldn't speak ill of a Parent:

His name is Corey Comperatore. He died after throwing his body over his wife and daughters to protect them. He was a volunteer firefighter who was the first to run into a burning building, and a supportive "cheer dad" for his daughters who taught him how to do a cartwheel for a parents mock competition.
He was a big Trump supporter, but friends who are Biden supporters spoke out, saying their friendship transcended politics, and they didn't let their differing political views come between them.
Two people remain in critical condition. Maybe you could take the time to look up their names yourself.

#697 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-14 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would never have taken any of my kids to a political rally when they were still children. (theyre all grown now)
It's inappropriate, especially if its a politician that speaks of violence often, like Trump does.

#732 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-14 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

I find it telling that instead of expressing compassion towards this man's family, instead you (and several others) jump to criticize him for taking his "children" to the rally. His daughters are adults. Victim blame much?

www.google.com

#748 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-14 11:43 PM | Reply | Flag:
| Newsworthy 1

Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 06:54 PM | Reply

#71 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 06:57 PM | Reply

POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-07-14 09:16 PM | REPLY

Thats what i actually said. Its not "victim blaming" to have that opinion.

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 06:57 PM | Reply

Oops, theres your context. Still waiting for you to show some compassion

#73 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 06:58 PM | Reply

-vance made his political career by becoming famous for a book

The Yale Law Degree might have had something to do with his political success.

#74 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Compassion? I already said the assassation attempt was terrible for our country.

if thats not enough for you i dont care. if you want to continue to lie thats on you.

#75 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:01 PM | Reply

-Still waiting for you to show some compassion

don't wait....because it's not there.

partisanship trumps everything else especially compassion.

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:02 PM | Reply

The Yale Law Degree might have had something to do with his political success.

#74 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2024-07-15 07:00 PM | FLAG:

the book/movie made him a household name.

#77 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:02 PM | Reply

" don't wait....because it's not there."

another liar sniffing my ass.

#78 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:02 PM | Reply

-Compassion? I already said the assassation attempt was terrible for our country.

plenty of people are openly saying it's terrible because it's good for Trump.

not because someone got shot and killed.

#79 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A former US Marine, Yale University Law School graduate, and NYT best-selling novelist who once called Donald J. Trump "America's Hitler," is the GOP VPOTUS candidate.

Fly "Old Glory" upside down once again.

I can only wonder what my old USMC buddies are thinking right now.

Source:

www.theatlantic.com

#80 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2024-07-15 07:04 PM | Reply

" plenty of people are openly saying it's terrible because it's good for Trump."

its terrible because it was an attempt on a mans life, a former president, and innocent people died. The shooter died too and we may never know why. violence has no place in our political process, and i have been very clear with my disgust for twinpacs comments that its "too bad" the shooter missed. (paraphrasing)

#81 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:07 PM | Reply

Compassion? I already said the assassation attempt was terrible for our country. if thats not enough for you i dont care. if you want to continue to lie thats on you.
#75 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Exactly, YOU DON'T CARE. You said the assassination attempt was bad for OUR COUNTRY. To (or about) the family of this man who died protecting his daughters you said, "I would never have taken any of my kids to a political rally when they were still children. (they're all grown now)
It's inappropriate" That is literally ALL you have said. Please don't attend any funerals. You don't have a compassionate bone in your body.

#82 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 07:09 PM | Reply

-the whole book and move are both a pity party.

so?

It's about life growing up in Appalachia

#83 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:09 PM | Reply

-i have been very clear with my disgust for twinpacs comments

does anybody believe you?

#84 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:10 PM | Reply

its self indulgent crap. Vance makes himself look good and his family bad.

so heroic!

#85 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:10 PM | Reply

Maybe you dont have the aptitude to believe people, eberly.

#86 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:11 PM | Reply

#81 Just saw this. Thank you It is really all I was looking for to restore a little faith in humanity. Moving on now, didn't intend to hijack the thread.

#87 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 07:11 PM | Reply

-Vance makes himself look good and his family bad.

Is any of it a lie?

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fair enough and maybe I'm no longer able to determine what pain Trump feels...because it doesn't seem to afflict him the way it afflicts most politicians.
#54 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Nah at this point there isn't really pain. It's all about that tiny sliver of voters in the very middle and they're not likely to see Vance in a positive light IMO.

#89 | Posted by jpw at 2024-07-15 07:12 PM | Reply

I'd be embarrassed to be his family.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-15 07:13 PM | Reply

" You don't have a compassionate bone in your body."

spare me the faux outrage. you dont sell it very well.

#91 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:13 PM | Reply

-a little faith in humanity

You made him say that, Miranda.

He didn't want to but you guilted him into it.

He doesn't give a flying ---- about that man getting killed and AGREES with Twin that it's too bad he missed.

and he's pissed at you for making him act like he is actually "compassionate".

LOL....because he's not.

#92 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:14 PM | Reply

-I'd be embarrassed to be his family.

I'd be embarrassed to be the subject of a book where I'm a loser.

and it being true.....

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:15 PM | Reply

" AGREES with Twin that it's too bad he missed."

you are a gasbag and a liar. you think you can read other people while being unable to regulate your own emotions.

good day, sir.

#94 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:15 PM | Reply

JD VP

The Lincoln Project

(40 secs)

www.youtube.com

#95 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:16 PM | Reply

#90 From the little bit I read, his family should be embarrassed. Apparently the book convinced his mother of just how bad her addiction had impacted her children, and as a result, she finally got sober and is doing well. So I'd guess Vance (and his sister) are "Sorry, not Sorry"

#96 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-15 07:16 PM | Reply

-You said the assassination attempt was bad for OUR COUNTRY.

people saying that really mean it was bad for themselves.

That's how selfish losers like Alex truly are......they found a way to take that event and make themselves the victim of it.

#97 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Does no one pay attention to eberly IRL?

sad little goofball.

#98 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:18 PM | Reply

You don't have a compassionate bone in your body.
#82 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Damn! Let the accusations fly!!!

Best way to debate is to first assign someone a strawman and then attack them for it.

Bravo!

#99 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-15 07:20 PM | Reply

FFS, this guy is the polar opposite of Sarah Palin......but the comments are almost identical.

And you dumfuqs believe you can express your own opinion.

This guy has gone from nothing to something. He's not a Bush or a Trump born on 3rd base......and you're still going to act like he's Sarah Palin.

LOL

#100 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:21 PM | Reply

-Best way to debate is to first assign someone a strawman and then attack them for it.

you should know

#101 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:22 PM | Reply

this guy is the polar opposite of Sarah Palin.

Only as far as the fact that Sarah Palin was a moron and JD Vance isn't.

Otherwise, goals are pretty similar, the continued theocratic control of the party and the nation.

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-15 07:25 PM | Reply

"Vance even criticized Trump while promoting the book, saying, "I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place."

"A few months later, when the infamous Trump Access Hollywood tape came out, Vance warned, "Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us. When we apologize for this man, lord help us."

Throughout 2016 and 2017, Vance liked tweets critical of Trump, including that he committed "serial sexual assault" and was "one of USA's most hated, villainous, douchey celebs."

In a set of since deleted tweets, Vance also criticized Trump's response to the 2017 neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, writing, "There is no moral equivalence between the anti-racist protestors in Charlottesville and the killer (and his ilk)."

But of course, like many other Republicans, the self-described "Never Trump" Republican soon changed his tune on Trump, fully backing Trumpism by the time he began his run for the Senate in 2022..."

newrepublic.com

#103 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:25 PM | Reply

you should know
#101 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Bravo!

Your irrelevance continues undaunted.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-15 07:26 PM | Reply

Jeebus!

You people sound like 5 year olds fighting over a cookie.

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:28 PM | Reply

Why does Corky hate cookies, and America?

; )

#106 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:29 PM | Reply

"But Vance won out in the end thanks to his antiestablishment credentials.

He had the support of Silicon Valley tech moguls like Peter Thiel and David Sacks, and Rubio was opposed by several in the Trump camp, including Donald Trump Jr, whom Vance seems to have successfully buttered up.

One Republican strategist criticized Vance's lack of experience when he was still only on Trump's V.P. shortlist, saying,

"J.D. Vance is a guy who wrote a book and helped with a Netflix show."

Well, now J.D. Vance is the Republican vice presidential nominee, and if Trump wins in November, he'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency."

link in 103

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:31 PM | Reply

Vance is not without charisma and might actually be willing to Rally the cabinet to declare Trump unfit for office.

#108 | Posted by Tor at 2024-07-15 07:32 PM | Reply

104

sorry for punching you in the -----.

#109 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:33 PM | Reply

106 lol

I see threads like this and think of Rogers posting what 10 or so years ago lamenting how people here sound like the, "bitchiest bitching bitches ever".

#110 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-fighting over a cookie.

if I want a cookie, I'll take it from these ------.

#111 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:34 PM | Reply

Sorry, Corky. I have zero compassion for you! Ask Madam Eberly and her tea leaves if you don't believe me. lol

#112 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:36 PM | Reply

-I have zero compassion for you!

You think you're joking but if Corky switched parties...then you'd rather see him hit by a bus than ever post here again.

#113 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"... Donald Trump Jr, whom Vance seems to have successfully buttered up."

Beard Bros??

www.toledoblade.com

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:40 PM | Reply

That butch built body 'ho is spreading her filth for the Convention right now.

Early on the first day best spot you could get? Not a good sign, Marge.

#115 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 07:46 PM | Reply

-Otherwise, goals are pretty similar, the continued theocratic control of the party and the nation.

I see. The "R" after his name is all that matters.

And I'm not disagreeing but it sort of makes any discussion specific to Vance worthless.

None of it really matters anyway but you're going to invent reasons to be afraid of this guy.

The "R" is enough........

#116 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 07:50 PM | Reply

" if Corky switched parties"

I have a hypothetical too. What if Eberly stopped pretending he was psychic? discuss.

#117 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Bad pick. JD Vance brings nothing to the ticket.
#2 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-07-15 03:16 PM"

How can you say that?

All they have to do is over-write the first two letters and they can use their leftover 2016 yard signs.

#118 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2024-07-15 08:03 PM | Reply

-What if Eberly stopped pretending he was psychic? discuss.

You'd still be a moron.

I don't make you a moron, Alex. I just get you to admit it.

#119 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-15 08:13 PM | Reply

Vance and Bunker Bitch have matching Putin knee pads.

#120 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-15 08:37 PM | Reply

J.D. Vance was born in 1984.
He hated Trump, even saying he'd vote for Hillary Clinton rather than Trump.
He called Trump "Hitler."

What happened? Did torture turn Vance as that inflicted by O'Brien turned Winston to The Party?
Or was it the appeal of "a boot stamping on a human face - forever" prove too powerful? Too desirable? Too cathartic?
Was this the path, finally, to stomp on his mother's face forever?

#121 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-15 08:40 PM | Reply

#11. The Hillbilly Elegy movie is basically 2 hours of "my mom is a junkie whore" by JD Vance. Its painfully bad.

So how then would the son or daughter of HUNTER BIDEN describe his sex and drug addicted drunken child molesting dad? Or a dad that never admits he has a young daughter. Vance seems like a pretty good guy that 30 years ago would be a Democrat.

#122 | Posted by Robson at 2024-07-15 08:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't give a ---- about Hunter Biden in the context of this thread. Thanks.

#123 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-15 08:42 PM | Reply

Trump called him JP Mandel at a rally, video at link:

Acyn
@Acyn
Just a reminder, Trump couldn't even remember Vance's name at a rally

x.com

#124 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-15 09:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sadly generations of grandparents are raising kids in America because Joe Biden has welcomed addicting drugs that ended the productive life of addicted parents. And the media and Democrats are happy with this and their Biden open borders.

#125 | Posted by Robson at 2024-07-15 09:20 PM | Reply

JD Vance DM to his friend, where he admits he could never get elected to the Senate in Ohio in a Republican primary if voters knew he thought Trump was "a moral disaster." So he just lied to them and created MAGA JD.

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#126 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-15 09:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"JP, right? JD. JD Mandel."

Way to recover, tRumpty.

#127 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-15 09:21 PM | Reply

He may have been thinking of Howie Mandel.

#128 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 09:39 PM | Reply

I see Robson is still mad at Trump for never getting Mexico to pay for a Wall.

rofl!

#129 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-15 09:48 PM | Reply

Is JP Mandel fully on board for a unified reich?

#130 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-15 09:52 PM | Reply

Vance looks like a stand-in for Jerry Falwell Jr. Vance's wife's name will be a mouthful for the MAGAts.

Pool boy stories at 11.

#131 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-07-16 12:15 AM | Reply

Tim Scotts fake girlfriend is really disappointed.

All that ass kissing wasted.

"Trump called him JP Mandel at a rally, video at link:

Acyn
@Acyn
Just a reminder, Trump couldn't even remember Vance's name at a rally"

It's clear that based on this Biden should step down.

- The Corporate Media.

#132 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-16 07:25 AM | Reply

The first thing that JP should do is up his life insurance coverage.

#133 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-07-16 07:25 AM | Reply

Who cares about VP. That 20 year old nut job handed the election to Trump.

#134 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2024-07-16 07:36 AM | Reply

@#58 ... ut the most significant action of loyalty is given.. ...

But, why is it given? Because it has been earned.

You can buy a man's time; you can buy his presence at a given place; you can even buy a measured number of his skilled muscular motions per hour. But you cannot buy enthusiasm ... You cannot buy loyalty... You cannot by the devotion of hearts, minds or souls. You must earn these. -- Clarence Francis

#135 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-16 10:59 AM | Reply

It really can't be said enough times, but the reason JD Vance is on the ticket is because PO1135809 tried to have his last VP murdered by a mob of his loyal supporters, LOL.

Almost his entire cabinet is either endorsing Biden, under indictment or in prison.

#136 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-07-16 01:18 PM | Reply

Any questions?:

The Intellectualist
@highbrow_nobrow

CBS News: Hungary's Viktor Orbn seized control of universities rewrote the Constitution and neutered the courts. Is that what you're advocating for in the US?

JD Vance: I think Orbn made smart decisions that we could learn from in the US. (June 2024)

x.com

#137 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-16 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Any questions?:

JD Vance (9/2021) : "We need a De-Ba'athification program in the U.S....We should seize the administrative state for our own purposes. We should fire ... every civil servant in the administrative state. Replace them with our people."

x.com

Trump's Project 2025 leader: "We have confirmed news that Senator JD Vance is the Vice Presidential running mate. You will see a broad smile on my face because you may know that we're good friends... [He] was someone that privately we were really rooting for"

x.com

#138 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-16 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In a 2016 article in The Atlantic, "Opioid of the Masses," Mr. Vance wrote: "During this election season, it appears that many Americans have reached for a new pain reliever." He went on: "It enters minds, not through lungs or veins, but through eyes and ears, and its name is Donald Trump."

He went even further in a July 2016 opinion piece for The Atlantic, titled "An Opioid for the Masses," Vance wrote of Trump's big campaign promises, "He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can't. Trump's promises are the needle in America's collective vein ... Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they'll realize it."

people.com

Here's Vance's article from 2016:

Opioid of the Masses

To many, Donald Trump feels good, but he can't fix America's growing social and cultural crisis, and the eventual comedown will be harsh.

What Trump offers is an easy escape from the pain. To every complex problem, he promises a simple solution. He can bring jobs back simply by punishing offshoring companies into submission. As he told a New Hampshire crowd"folks all too familiar with the opioid scourge"he can cure the addiction epidemic by building a Mexican wall and keeping the cartels out. He will spare the United States from humiliation and military defeat with indiscriminate bombing. It doesn't matter that no credible military leader has endorsed his plan. He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can't. Trump's promises are the needle in America's collective vein.

www.theatlantic.com

#139 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-16 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nice article, Gal.

Of course, that was before Mandel, I mean, Vance, needed the Opioid Dealer to the Masses to support his personal power trip, aka his Senate Campaign in backwoods Ohio.

He even said back then that Trump was, leading white workers into a dark place.
.

"He previously wrote in 2016 that he was going to vote for a third party because

"I can't stomach Trump." He told NPR:

"I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place."

In the same month as the NPR interview, Vance penned another op-ed, this one for The New York Times, in which he said that "Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation's highest office."

www.newsweek.com

#140 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-16 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans against Trump
@RpsAgainstTrump

Donald Trump's VP nominee JD Vance: "We are effectively run in this country ... by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. And they want to make the rest of the country miserable too."

x.com

#141 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-16 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But, why is it given? Because it has been earned.
You can buy a man's time; you can buy his presence at a given place; you can even buy a measured number of his skilled muscular motions per hour. But you cannot buy enthusiasm ... You cannot buy loyalty... You cannot by the devotion of hearts, minds or souls. You must earn these. -- Clarence Francis
#135 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-07-16 10:59 AM

Yep...all wrong. all of it.

Loyalty may or may not have been earned.

And you always buy loyalty.

Any person or organization you've ever been loyal to......you were bought every time.

you received something for it.

love
admiration
safety
purpose
money
etc..

you got something for it.

#142 | Posted by eberly at 2024-07-16 11:02 PM | Reply