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We can condemn political violence and Kirk's murder while also condemning Charlie Kirk for the rotten, vile hatred he fomented.

True dat.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-14 12:49 PM | Reply

It's absolutely absurd the way he is being canonized. In my area folks are organizing candlelight vigils and motorcycle runs for him. They're treating him like he was MLK and JFK and Ghandi rolled into one.

#2 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-09-14 01:56 PM | Reply

Ask Stephen King how that rhetoric is working out for him...

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-14 02:35 PM | Reply

King had the good grace to apologize and delete his posts.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-14 02:37 PM | Reply

Not Martin Luther King.

Horst Wessel...this is Nazilke Cult Idolatry.

Disgusting...

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-14 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Charlie the martyr bussed filth-smearing cop killers into DC on J6.

www.businessinsider.com

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-14 05:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I hope Chuck Rests In Piss.
He was a very evil --------.

#7 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-14 11:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

**** VPOTUS JD Vance Will Fill in for Charlie Kirk's Podcast on Monday ****

thehill.com

The beatification of a good-for-nothing, spiteful, hatemongering college dropout continues. And the ever-vacationing VPOTUS has nothing better to do? Americans are paying the VPOTUS salary so he can spew hatred for several hours on Monday.

#8 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-15 12:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So Vile': MAGA Maniacs Go After Black Professor After She Says Charlie Kirk and His Followers Terrorized Her for Months

Something that's apparent in the abuse Patton and many other educators have endured over the years at the hands of Turning Point and the MAGA faithful, if they were labeled by Kirk and his followers as advancing "leftist propaganda."

"For weeks, my inbox and voicemail were deluged. Mostly white men spat venom through the phone: ------,' ---,' n****r.' They threatened all manner of violence," Patton described.

"They overwhelmed the university's PR lines and the president's office with calls demanding that I be fired," Patton said. "The flood was so relentless that the head of campus security reached out to offer me an escort, because they feared one of these keyboard soldiers might step out of his basement and come do me harm."

atlantablackstar.com

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-15 07:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Worth a read:

My Statement to the American People on The Death of Charlie Kirk
Michael Fanone

Democracy doesn't survive in that environment. Free speech doesn't survive. We don't survive.

Charlie Kirk's death doesn't make him a martyr. It doesn't redeem his politics. But it does mark another line we've crossed in this country"a line that should never have been crossed in the first place.

I'll say it again: violence is not politics. And if we don't reclaim that principle right now, we're going to lose the very thing that makes this place worth fighting for.

michaelfanone.substack.com

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-15 09:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#4

He absolutely should not have done that. The post was 100% accurate, Kirk wanted gay people killed. That he called for it with a dog whistle is not relevant.

King should apologize for apologizing now.

#11 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-09-15 09:36 AM | Reply

Ask Stephen King how that rhetoric is working out for him...

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds

What, where the folks who used to bitch and moan about cancel culture are now taking cancel culture to the extreme?

As usual, the right takes an actual grievance, accelerates it under the guise of "but they ddiiiiiiiid it toooooo" and is far worse than anyone or anything they previously criticized.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-15 10:20 AM | Reply

How long until the Roundups of "Leftists" begin?

The Repression is just beginning. First the Tears.

Then the Firings of people who "didn't love Charlie".

Then the dismantling of any political organizations the MAGA deem hostile. Legal or not.

Then the labeling of political dissent as "Terrorism" with long prison terms attached, all greenlit by the SCOTUS.

Open resistance will be violently put down by the Military.

Fun Times.

If you're a Dictator looking to consolidate control.

Was Charlie Sacrificed so Trump could become a Real Dictator?

It looks somewhat like It.

#13 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-15 10:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ask Stephen King how that rhetoric is working out for him...

#3 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

When will YOU apologize for any of your hateful rhetoric?

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-15 11:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"We can condemn political violence and Kirk's murder while also condemning Charlie Kirk for the rotten, vile hatred he fomented."

Oh no the hell we can't. Liberals already normalized attacking people with different opinions. Liberals already normalized destroying someone's life because they don't have the same ideologies. Burying your head in the sand when it's your party being violent but then pointing fingers when it's someone else is absolutely why this country won't survive, or at least will become just like religious countries who kill each other over belonging to different sects. And I'm not saying liberals started this, just that liberals aren't innocent in any way and have behaved just like cons...and vice versa.

Reps have condemned for quite some time now all the murders, rapes, etc. that occur because liberals want open borders. That is fomenting rotten, vile hatred. Any objective person can see this and any intelligent person can see how they are the EXACT SAME THING. Dems and Reps have done this for so long now that neither side can even see anything different. That's just how our country is and it won't change. Case in point...

"As usual, the right takes an actual grievance, accelerates it under the guise of "but they ddiiiiiiiid it toooooo" and is far worse than anyone or anything they previously criticized."

What about gerrymandering Dems did in the 90s but now they are whining and crying that Reps are doing it to the significant level they did back then? What about liberals who cry about police and then pay top dollar for security? What about Dems crying about if you don't cater to trans then "the blood is on your hands" but when Reps cry about not catering to illegals who rape, kill, etc. you all of a sudden don't understand English.

Once again, pointing fingers while ignoring all the bad your own party has done is terrible. We NEED to be two separate countries at this point solely because of people like you. You have just as much right to spew your ideologies and opinions that Reps do but people like you can't live with others who don't accept your ideologies and opinions. Which, even a 10-year-old can understand how that just makes things worse.

Your statement is unbelievable when there are so, so, soooooooooooo many examples of Dems doing the same exact thing you are whining about. All of this is part of documented history...much of it recent. You can't argue it without being seen as illiterate. You can't say what you said without being a hypocrite. So, why are you choosing to spread hate and misinformation instead of working to solve the negatives your party does that are just like the other party?

#15 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-15 12:01 PM | Reply

Does anyone read humtake's walls of words?

What a waste of time his life is!

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-15 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh no the hell we can't.

Oh yes we can. It is critical to do so. This is the very reason the First Amendment was written. So we CAN do that. Because it is required for our form of government to exist. Otherwise we get what you really want which is anti-democratic.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-15 12:08 PM | Reply

Does anyone read humtake's walls of words?

No.

Don't need to.

It's always "both sides.. blah blah blah".

Or

"But democrats.. blah blah blah."

Always the same stuff just a different day.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-15 12:13 PM | Reply

#18 - yep.

Always.

So blind, so willfully ignorant, so filled with self-righteousness

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-15 12:20 PM | Reply

"We can condemn political violence and Kirk's murder while also condemning Charlie Kirk for the rotten, vile hatred he fomented."

These are interesting words considering he was murdered for apparently hatred far-left Hitleraraians fomented.

Its strange to me seeing "Lumpers" trample/laugh/harass Charlie memorials, and at the same time claim they are condemning his murder.

The facts don't match the rhetoric.

LyinYav, LiesHurt, and DonorBot have been fomenting hatred for right wing people as long as I have been here. They are in part why Charlie was murdered. Yet ironically they claim they are the "tolerant" ones, the peaceful ones. I just don't see it, you lie, you call people names, you call everyone Hitler. Its just so comical.

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-15 12:33 PM | Reply

Charlie Kirk spent years spreading hate and anger amongst America's most poorly educated.

That's why Trump loved him so much, Kirk pitted Americans against each other, distracting from the fact billionaires are robbing our nation.

Fact is, Charlie Kirk was a hate monger inspiring millions to hate.

In the end, he inspired someone to kill him.

Which is inspiring more hatred.

All while Trump pours gas on the entire situation.

No president has preached anger, division and hate as much as Trump has.

Trump's endgame is the complete collapse of the United States of America.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-15 12:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

LyinYav, LiesHurt, and DonorBot have been fomenting hatred for holding right wing people accountable for their intolerance as long as I have been here.

FTFY


Pull up yer pants ... Your hateful divisive agenda is showing again foreign agitator.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-15 12:58 PM | Reply

Aw. That's so cute! I'm still getting under ilttle ol' OneNut's skin? I had no idea! /s

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-15 01:18 PM | Reply

What, where the folks who used to bitch and moan about cancel culture are now taking cancel culture to the extreme?

As usual, the right takes an actual grievance, accelerates it under the guise of "but they ddiiiiiiiid it toooooo" and is far worse than anyone or anything they previously criticized.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-15 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

People dont HAVE to buy his books or watch his movie.. He's currently having a Bud Light moment... And you're still and idiot.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-15 01:19 PM | Reply

"What, where the folks who used to bitch and moan about cancel culture are now taking cancel culture to the extreme?"

Fair point.

I'm seeing on Facebook a post that identifies the cities that did not observe a moment of silence for Kirk at their NFL games. Then, the subsequent posts attempt to compare this to whether or not they did the same thing for George Floyd.

Nobody wants to be on the "I hate Charlie Kirk" side of this issue

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-15 01:28 PM | Reply

What, where the folks who used to bitch and moan about cancel culture are now taking cancel culture to the extreme?

Well I recall the lefties would cancel people for donating $25 to a GoFundMe, or an Obama mask as a clown.

IOW a difference of political opinion.

There's a big difference between a political opinion, and figuratively "dancing on someone's grave".

It's not complicated, even as a liberal I really don't want to be associated with those people.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-15 01:38 PM | Reply

Quoting Charlie Kirk is now Hate Speech... ROFL!

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-15 01:41 PM | Reply

Nobody wants to be on the "I hate Charlie Kirk" side of this issue
- eberly

Given your complaints about my generalization about Universites.

I find the "nobody" hilarious, just look at this thread.

"far worse than anyone or anything they previously criticized."
- jpw

Well the "crime" is worse

#28 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-15 01:43 PM | Reply

Quoting Charlie Kirk is now Hate Speech... ROFL!
#27 | Posted by Corky

Quoting out of context is. I don't make the rules.

They were made by Lumpers like yourself.

Many people have quoted him actually quoting someone else, and him responding to it with kindness is ignored.

#29 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-15 01:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Liberals already normalized attacking people with different opinions.

Stopped reading this dumbf*&^'s screed right here.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-15 02:05 PM | Reply

Its strange to me seeing "Lumpers" trample/laugh/harass Charlie memorials, and at the same time claim they are condemning his murder.
The facts don't match the rhetoric.

No, you're just a stupid pile of s*&^ taking the actions of the minority and applying them to others despite their expression of a contrary opinion.

GFY you piece of s*&^.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-15 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Well the "crime" is worse
#28 | Posted by oneironaut

There is no crime.

And the rebuttal to the previous cancel culture wars was that no matter how reprehensible the speech, if it doesn't break known case law it's protected.

So again, go f*&^ yourself you stupid pile of s(*&.

It's not complicated, even as a liberal I really don't want to be associated with those people.

#26 | Posted by oneironaut

You're not a liberal, dumbf*(&. Just STFU and f*&^ off.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-15 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- Quoting out of context

There are liars and there are shameless liars, you are the latter.

drudge.com

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-15 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Quoting out of context is. I don't make the rules."

Thank the Gawds for that foreign agitator!

And Umm. No it's not a rule.

What rule is that and who made it up?

If you don't want to be "quoted out of context" don't say things that can be "quoted out of context".

If you want to be an "influencer " be careful what you say. It can and will be used against you in a court of public opinion.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-15 02:10 PM | Reply

Kirk was a racist, misogynistic, homophobe, and he did it all to dull people's shock of his words. Over time, he took the sting out of what he was saying, and in the next five years, I believe Reichwing media will regularly and flagrantly us the "N" word when referring to black folks. I wonder though about our silos. Those of us on Earth One know Kirk for what he was, a low-rent Limpbag, but on the Reich they're talking about him going into the lions den armed with only a microphone and a Bible. So does the algorithm stop these folks from seeing all the hate and lies, or is the racism, misogyny, and homophobia so baked in that it's now just part of the MAGAt brand?

#35 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-09-15 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#35
Evidently.

#36 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-15 03:29 PM | Reply

When the dog finally catches the car it has been chasing, what does it do then?

#37 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-15 03:31 PM | Reply

wow, I can't believe Donner is so against freedom of speech, to the point of threats!!!

He just said... "careful, don't say things ... will be used against you"

I can't believe it's acceptable to say that!!!

#38 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-16 10:54 AM | Reply

You really can't differentiate between the State controlling and punishing versus what Donnerboy said? Seriously?

This is why the "right" is a cancer. www.theguardian.com

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-16 10:57 AM | Reply

wow, I can't believe Donner is so against freedom of speech, to the point of threats!!!

I can't believe it's acceptable to say that!!!

#38 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Better get your believer fixed. If you are employed by a maga maroon there is no such thing as free speech.

"We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."

-Pam Blondi

"There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there's no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie."

-Pam Blondi

And employers, you, have to have an obligation to get rid of people. You need to look at people who are saying horrible things. And they shouldn't be working with you. Businesses cannot discriminate. If you wanna go in and print posters with Charlie's pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let them do that. We can prosecute you for that.

-Pam Blondi

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-16 11:18 AM | Reply

not even getting that I quote-quoted-quote you out of context... sigh.

#41 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-16 12:12 PM | Reply

Re 41

It was so obvious I ignored it.

Quoting someone out of context is not a crime.

It's gone way beyond quoting someone out of context when the U.S. AG is threatening to use the power of the U.S. Government to target people who say things that they do not like.


#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-16 12:24 PM | Reply

who was talking about the AG?

you said about Charlie Kirk: If you don't want to be "quoted out of context" don't say things that can be "quoted out of context".

And my point is that is a ridiculous statement. Some of his quotes, are him repeating a statement and then arguing against it. Like him, hate him, but to say the above about him is ridiculous. Anything can be taken out of context, context means everything.

#43 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-09-16 12:38 PM | Reply

The same Pam Bondi who says that people protesting Genocide should be deported for exercising first amendment free speech on college campuses?

Get The ---- Otta Here.

#44 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-16 12:51 PM | Reply

The 'taken out of context' meme is lame as hell.

drudge.com

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-16 12:51 PM | Reply

"Anything can be taken out of context, context means everything."

What you did was take snippets. No even full sentences.

And maga maroons are very practiced at it. I can see why you would get annoyed if someone stole your tactics and turned them against you.

Again. As a public speaker you should be very careful not to say things that can be taken out of context. Everything you say can and will be held against you in a court of public opinion.

That's why getting someone under oath is so important.

I see now that most public speakers and even comedians will recognize when they are saying something controversial in order to make a point. And they preference it by pointing it out that this will probably be taken out of context. Even Trumpy does it.

Maybe you can be more specific as to which of Charlie's statements are being "taken out of context".

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-16 01:09 PM | Reply

On the subject of whether somone doesn't want to print a poster of Kirk - it seems many conservatives online are mad at Bondi (and Matt Walsh I believe) wants her to resign.

He makes the statement that 'we have fought this, and won where you can deny services'.

What exactly is he taking about? The SC said you can do this - I think - if it's religious beliefs - but would Kirk fall into this?

#47 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-16 01:38 PM | Reply

I never listened to Kirk but was aware of him and his following.

The response in other countries has surprised me. His message must have resonated with a lot of people.

Dems sure don't have anyone like that unless they promise more government goodies.

#48 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 02:54 PM | Reply

Dems sure don't have anyone like that unless they promise more government goodies.

#48 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump is raining government goodies on anyone who supports fascism. Red state farmers are getting bailouts from the economic collapse he's causing for them, billionaires are getting tax cuts that your kids will be paying for, and anyone who gives him a big enough bribe gets a pardon for any crime.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-16 02:58 PM | Reply

Dems sure don't have anyone like that unless they promise more government goodies.
#48 | Posted by BillJohnson

Dems don't preach hate.

Charlie Kirk promised government goodies. He promised their lives would be perfect if they got rid of certain groups of people.

Do Dems have people like Kirk minus the hate? Absolutely. Hasan Piker, John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, etc.

#50 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-16 03:03 PM | Reply

Syc,

'BillJohnson
Dems don't preach hate."

No...they just practice it.

Let's see...who was bragging about holding me in "contempt"?

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 03:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

BullJohnson personally spews hate on the DR for democrats, liberals, and the LGBTQ on a regular basis.

There's one thing common to all republicans, they're ignorance wrapped in hate.

I don't expect much from BullJohnson, he regularly exposes his hypocrisy and ignorance.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 03:29 PM | Reply

What a riot.

BillJohnson can't name two Commandments Trump embodies, nor can he name two aspects of the Anti-Christ Trump doesn't embody.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-16 03:29 PM | Reply

No...they just practice it.
Let's see...who was bragging about holding me in "contempt"?
#51 | Posted by BillJohnson

I'll speak for myself

It is a great lie that it is a virtue not to judge others

Judging others for their actions is righteous if you have the wisdom, integrity and morality to pass righteous judgement

I judge the current president as a horrible human being.

I judge the current president is an autocrat actively destroying what I believe is great about America-liberal democracy.

I will judge HARSHL anyone who supports him in that endeavor

And yes, I hold in contempt those that are destroying America.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-16 03:31 PM | Reply

Clown,

"BullJohnson personally spews hate on the DR for democrats, liberals, and the LGBTQ on a regular basis."

Liar liar pants on fire...

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 05:04 PM | Reply

Shut up stupid.

You constantly attacked homosexuals for wanting marriage equality.

You were one of our biggest critics.

You constantly cried about gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage.

You're a liar. One of the DR's biggest pieces of shht.

Fuck you.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 05:10 PM | Reply

Clown,

"You constantly cried about gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage."

That was back when Christian bakers were refusing to participate in gay weddings and being sued for it.

I take offense to that.

I do believe gay couples can have ceremonies where they make a commitment vow before God. But claiming those marriages are sanctified by God is, I believe, a mockery.

I'm not hating anyone.

#57 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 05:28 PM | Reply

-You constantly cried about gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage.

I hate to stand between you and someone you're spitting on ... ... but ...

That statement accurately describes many people who support same-sex marriage today.

The vast majority of people over the age of 40 evolved at some point.

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 05:33 PM | Reply

That was back when ...

... you were talking shht about homosexuals.

I don't care about your excuses or justifications.

All you posted was hate and ignorant statements.

I take offense to that.

I took offense to your hatful comments.

I do believe gay couples can have ceremonies where they make a commitment vow before God. But claiming those marriages are sanctified by God is, I believe, a mockery.

Homosexuality is sanctified by God. It's as natural as life itself.

You're blinded by hate and ignorance.

I'm not hating anyone.
#57 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

You're an idiot.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That statement accurately describes many people who support same-sex marriage today.
#58 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Hate fueled by ignorance is still hate.

I'm glad society has become more tolerant of homosexuals.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 05:52 PM | Reply

Eb,

Clarify yourself please.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 06:32 PM | Reply

He was saying it's okay you hate homosexuals because you're an idiot.

I'm saying being an idiots doesn't excuse hate.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 06:38 PM | Reply

Clown,

"I'm glad society has become more tolerant of homosexuals."

Really?

You think that's what's happening?

I have a very realistic attitude about the situation.

Here's a question.

How many straight couples have said, "I sure hope little Jr turns out gay"?

Don't kid yourself.

"Tolerance" is not "acceptance".

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 06:41 PM | Reply

I'm saying that there are plenty of folks today that support same sex marriage, but they didn't have that position their entire lives. They were once against it until they changed and evolved.

BTW, here is a dirty secret........a lot of them are democrats.

#64 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:43 PM | Reply

Clown,
"You constantly cried about gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage."
That was back when Christian bakers were refusing to participate in gay weddings and being sued for it.
I take offense to that.
I do believe gay couples can have ceremonies where they make a commitment vow before God. But claiming those marriages are sanctified by God is, I believe, a mockery.
I'm not hating anyone.
#57 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 05:28 PM

A mockery? Like how advancing genocide is fulfilling a sacred vow?

Your people are disgusting.

Separate and unequal is your guiding principal.

Deliberate ignorance is offensive.

Kirk was groomed since 18.

#65 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-09-16 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-How many straight couples have said, "I sure hope little Jr turns out gay"?

roughly the same number of couples who say, "I sure hope little Jr turns out autistic or disabled"

But if any of my kids turned out gay, or disabled......I like to think I would more than just tolerate them. I would completely accept it.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:46 PM | Reply

BTW, here is a dirty secret........a lot of them are democrats.

#64 | Posted by eberly

And a lot MORE of them are republicans. And in 2025, it's purely republicans who are still trying to drag gay acceptance backwards.

I guess the liberal brain is capable of evolving and the conservative brain isn't.

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-16 06:49 PM | Reply

Clown,

My eyes are wide open.

With my age and life experience, I see this from more than one angle.

And here's the bottom line.

Gays today risk overplaying their hand.

#68 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 06:52 PM | Reply

-And a lot MORE of them are republicans.

calm down, little fella. I was referring to folks who support same sex marriage.

Not folks who don't.

you want to revise your hastily written post?

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:52 PM | Reply

I realize sucksoftly is only 14 or 15 years old but it wasn't all that long ago when democrats could openly be against same sex marriage.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:53 PM | Reply

You think that's what's happening?

Yep.

I have a very realistic attitude about the situation.

You and reality are miles apart. Your ignorance is on display for all to witness.

How many straight couples have said, "I sure hope little Jr turns out gay"?

More than there were a few decades ago.

How many couples hope their kids turn out to be hatful morons?

Don't kid yourself.
"Tolerance" is not "acceptance".
#63 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

Don't kid yourself.

Despite conservatives grooming their children to hate homosexuals, the majority of Americans now accept homosexuality as part of life.

Your hateful ideology is going to die off.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 06:54 PM | Reply

-Gays today risk overplaying their hand.

how so?

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:55 PM | Reply

"Despite conservatives grooming their children to hate homosexuals.."

Jesus...shut your faggot mouth!

:-)

#73 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 06:58 PM | Reply

calm down, little fella. I was referring to folks who support same sex marriage.

Not folks who don't.

you want to revise your hastily written post?

#69 | Posted by eberly

Yeah you were trying to play your "dems aren't much better than republicans" game in an era when dems are totally accepting of gay marriage and repubs are still using gay terror to scare people.

#74 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-16 07:00 PM | Reply

I realize sucksoftly is only 14 or 15 years old but it wasn't all that long ago when democrats could openly be against same sex marriage.

#70 | Posted by eberly

Jumping straight to the dick centric insults already? Must have struck a nerve.

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-16 07:03 PM | Reply

Eb,

"roughly the same number of couples who say, "I sure hope little Jr turns out autistic or disabled""

I'm not making this into a major issue but you did just lump being gay in with disabilities.

At least you're being honest how you see it.

In this straight world, being gay has its own challenges.

Family rejection. Fitting in. Feeling deprived of the benefits of being straight.

Let's not kid ourselves.

Being gay is hard and mostly unfair how the world views you.

And there ain't a thing you can do about it but grow some thick skin.

#76 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 07:05 PM | Reply

"in an era when dems are totally accepting of gay marriage and repubs are still using gay terror to scare people."

wrong. I'm doing it in a previous era.

Gee, you're so sensitive and victimized all the time.

everyone not gay had to evolve on this issue at some point.

Former President Bill Clinton formally opposed same-sex marriage during his time in office and signed the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in 1996. However, his stance has since evolved, and he later called for DOMA to be overturned.

not that long ago........

#77 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 07:08 PM | Reply

Being gay is hard and mostly unfair how the world views you.

Especially when cowards like you pretend to be straight and then spend your time attacking homosexuals who have the courage and strength to be open about who they were born as.

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 07:08 PM | Reply

-I'm not making this into a major issue but you did just lump being gay in with disabilities.

lump?

you're funny. my words are clear. and accurate

#79 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 07:10 PM | Reply

Clown,

You have absolutely no concept of the courage it's taken for me to survive and thrive.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 07:18 PM | Reply

-Jumping straight to the dick centric insults already? Must have struck a nerve.

I get called Beverly 50 times a day. I couldn't care less

But "suck" means you struck a nerve?

sure.....whatever.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 07:22 PM | Reply

" You have absolutely no concept of the courage it's taken for me to survive and thrive."

How much courage did it take to send out wedding invitations?

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-16 07:36 PM | Reply

" everyone not gay had to evolve on this issue at some point."

Nah ... I recognized from the jump gays were being treated as second-class citizens.

#83 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-16 07:41 PM | Reply

83

What year?

#84 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 07:47 PM | Reply

It took me a while to evolve ... .

Parents, grandparents, older siblings, neighbors, etc ... ...

Rural farming community.

#85 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 07:54 PM | Reply

You have absolutely no concept of the courage it's taken for me to survive and thrive.
#80 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

Took a lot of courage to pretend you're straight?

I don't know what you've been through, but pretending to be straight while simultaneously attacking homosexuals is deplorable.

Literally.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 08:20 PM | Reply

Clown,

I don't pretend anything.

And I don't attack gays you liar.

GFY.

#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 08:25 PM | Reply

You literally attacked homosexuals on this thread.

You stupid idiot.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 08:28 PM | Reply

Clown,

If you see what I wrote as attacking gays, I pity you.

What I wrote is blunt and honest.

You need to become a thicker skinned adult instead of a wimpy child.

#89 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 08:48 PM | Reply

What I wrote is blunt and honest.

What you wrote is hateful and ignorant.

Why don't you run off and disappoint your wife.

You coward.

You lived your whole life fearing who you are.

You pathetic faggot.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 08:52 PM | Reply

How many straight couples have said, "I sure hope little Jr turns out gay"?

Given social media today, probably more than than you are comfortable with.

#91 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-16 08:52 PM | Reply

You have absolutely no concept of the courage it's taken for me to survive and thrive.

MAGA Christians confuse depriving others all while claiming to be a victim with "courage".

Okee. Then y'all put the rage in courage.

#92 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-16 08:57 PM | Reply

"What you wrote is hateful and ignorant."

Specifically list his hateful and ignorant posts on this thread.

Try to avoid posting what you've typed.

Which is what I consider the hateful and ignorant posts on this thread.

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:04 PM | Reply

One,

"Given social media today, probably more than than you are comfortable with."

You tell yourself that.

I can imagine a gay couple raising a child hoping for it but not a straight couple. Most couples hope for grandchildren.

Who would wish such a hardship on a child they loved?

Pretty unlikely.

#94 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-16 09:10 PM | Reply

BullJohnson probably believes Black people want White children in order to have an easier life in America.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:13 PM | Reply

Which is what I consider

No one gives a shht what an interloper considers.

Why don't you go back to your safe, white bread life.

We've already established your white skins and heterosexual Christian lifestyle buffers you from reality.

Besides. Don't you pretend to be a republican amongst your fellow republicans?

Feels safe, doesn't it.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:18 PM | Reply

Black people want White children

Say that three times and jak_se_mao will appear.

#97 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-16 09:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Specifically list his hateful and ignorant posts on this thread, Clown.

You made the accusation.

Back it up

#98 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:23 PM | Reply

-Why don't you go back to your safe, white bread life.

I never left it. WTF are you talking about?

#99 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:26 PM | Reply

Exactly.

Your opinion is worthless.

#100 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:27 PM | Reply

The hateful and ignorant posts, clown.

list them.

You're either lying and deflecting with this disingenuous shit you're throwing at me or you are too embarrassed to admit how thin your skin really is.

#101 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:34 PM | Reply

-Most couples hope for grandchildren.

I hoped for 10 toes and 10 fingers and everything where it's supposed to be and healthy.

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:37 PM | Reply

You thinking I owe you any explanation is delusional.

Read the thread and figure it out.

#103 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:37 PM | Reply

Charlie bit my finger. And it hurts.

#104 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 09:37 PM | Reply

-Read the thread and figure it out.

Obviously I did.

I figured out you lie like a rug.

and you're guilty of exactly what you wrongly accuse others of.

congrats....

#105 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:39 PM | Reply

I'm curious just how many problems you have you blame on Bill Johnson.

Is it more or less than the number of personal problems twoothy blames on Bellringer?

#106 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:40 PM | Reply

Poor Eberly.

He just doesn't get it and feels left out.

So he's throwing a temper tantrum.

You're not gonna get it and I'm not here to hold your hand.

#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:44 PM | Reply

#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:44 PM | Reply | Flag: throws a temper tantrum every single day on the DR

#108 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:46 PM | Reply

I get it buddy, you feel entitled to know what BullJohnson wrote that I feel is hateful.

You need to gate keep whether I'm entitled to feeling offended or whether I'm just overreacting.

Because after all, you're a psychologist.

Not just some guy who sells insurance to farmers and has a high opinion of himself.

#109 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 09:51 PM | Reply

I had to check the thread title again.

I thought it might have said, "Inside Clownshack's Toxic Legacy of Hatred and Division" It appears that before this thread is done....it's going to be more about Clown that Kirk. LOL

Bill is a confused dude and deserves much grief thrown at him.

I asked a clear question about what you consider hateful and ignorant.

You expect to just hurl those accusations with nobody questioning you.

You do. It's obvious. You are entitled to talk to anybody here any way you want.

You're allowed by the boss here if he says so....fine with me.

But I'll reserve my right to challenge the facts. You can piss and moan and tell everyone to Go fuck themselves and blame your problems on them all you want.

You can also just admit Bill never typed anything remotely hateful towards you or anybody else.

#110 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:52 PM | Reply

Eberly! Enough already. Give it a **cking break. Maybe go take a nap or something.

Being on the DR for hours on end has made you irrational and stupid. Come back in a few days.

#111 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"whether I'm entitled to feeling offended or whether I'm just overreacting."

You're usually overreacting. That's not exactly front page news around here.

You're lying about another poster and hiding behind your homosexuality and race to do it.

That's why I'm doing this. Everyone else is just going to treat you like the 8 year old baby they really consider you to be and pretend they don't see you pull crap like this.

I'm trying to keep you being perceived as an adult here with something to contribute. You could just stand up like the man you think you are and fucking act like it.

#112 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

see....Moder8 is begging for mercy from me.

He knows you're 100% wrong........all that's left is a plea for mercy.

He's describing you with the "hours on end" crap. He's really talking to you.

#113 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 09:59 PM | Reply

That's why I'm doing this.

It's been quite enjoyable watching you meltdown.

I'm now doing this for the pure entertainment factor.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 10:00 PM | Reply

"Not just some guy who sells insurance to farmers"

complaining about hatred and ignorance....and the ONLY thing you can argue with are personal insults.

#115 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:00 PM | Reply

Is this divisive?

"You do not belong in this city, Islamophobe! Get out!, you are not welcomed here"
~ Mayor of Dearborn.

#116 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-16 10:00 PM | Reply


Being on the DR for hours on end has made you irrational and stupid. Come back in a few days.
#111 | POSTED BY MODER8

Well it only takes you one post.

#117 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-16 10:01 PM | Reply

That's why I'm doing this. Everyone else is just going to treat you like the 8 year old baby they really consider you to be and pretend they don't see you pull crap like this.
I'm trying to keep you being perceived as an adult here with something to contribute. You could just stand up like the man you think you are and fucking act like it.

#112 | Posted by eberly

Thank goodness for Eberly. His intentions are so gallant. Protecting a liberal poster here on the DR from looking like a child. And a liberal poster at that, who has been kicking his ass all over the DR for many months now. So noble.

**cking delusional liar.

#118 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 10:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-I'm now doing this for the pure entertainment factor.

It's entertaining to watch yourself be called a liar to your face and you have nothing to say except personal attacks?

you really are a masochist.

I'm wondering how many other posters here are messaging privately you telling you to get the fuck off this place.......

hopefully none

#119 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-Protecting a liberal poster here on the DR from looking like a child

there are a lot of posters here on both sides who can't be protected from that.

#120 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:04 PM | Reply

It's quite obvious Eberly is use to getting his way or he melts down.

You must be delightful in real life.

#121 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 10:04 PM | Reply

Eberly, you need to learn to walk away. You are embarrassing the rest of us by how stupid you are now sounding. For God's sake, log off.

#122 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 10:05 PM | Reply

-delusional liar.

I'm being very specific at what I'm calling Clownshack a liar for.

why don't you try it.

what am I lying about?

"Protecting a liberal poster"

I actually like Clown. Always have....we've had these kinds of arguments in the past. It's good to clear the air sometimes......

#123 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah Eberly, it sure is good to clear the air by acting like an unfed baby and blubbering idiocy for the whole community to read. Thank you for your service.

#124 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You are embarrassing the rest of us"

I'm sure you wish you had worded that differently.

There is absolutely no way you could be embarrassed at anything I post.

Same goes with Clown.

He's embarrassed at what HE has posted and is being called out for.

which is really why you're begging me to stop pummeling him.

How many more times are you going to ask me to stop picking on him?

#125 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm being very specific at what I'm calling Clownshack a liar for.

You're mostly whining about not understanding my comments directed at BullJohnson.

But he understands what I'm saying.

He understands what he wrote.

Now he's watching you make a fool of yourself.

#126 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 10:11 PM | Reply

Clown can put a stop to this anytime..........

I remember this same thing happening quite a few years ago.

Clown wouldn't stop attacking people personally.....and this was when we had some actual moderation to consider.

The next day......dolts like Moder8 made excuses for him.

He's unemployed, depressed, bi-polar, medicated, etc.

#127 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:14 PM | Reply

-You're mostly whining about not understanding my comments directed at BullJohnson.

You were talking in a larger context? Beyond this thread?

Meaning.....he didn't specifically post anything hateful or ignorant on THIS thread....but he sure does it all the time?

I need to understand that????

#128 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:16 PM | Reply

Why do I need to make excuses for Clownshack? For highlighting your idiocy? Ok then: Clownshack! Stop it! Eberly can't help it that his parents had him lobotomized!

#129 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 10:17 PM | Reply

"But he understands what I'm saying.
He understands what he wrote."

You speak in tongues with him....some other language?

Cut the shit, Clown.

You lied through your fucking teeth. You constantly pretend to be upset and offended even when you're not.

And why? Because this entire goddam blog community allows you to be upset and offended.

They can't attack your minority or sexuality. They're massively too afraid to do it.

So....they all give you a pass when you step over the line like this.

And you're convinced there is no line for you. Everyone else has a line to watch out for.....but not ME!! I'm fucking special!

#130 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:19 PM | Reply

-Why do I need to make excuses for Clownshack?

write that down over and over until you can offer up an honest answer to it.

Because you do...

You're doing it right now.

He's wrong...you know it....and yet here you are....attacking me.

Tomorrow...you guys will tag team Bill again and it will be fine.

He's a glutton for the punishment.

You're too weak to take it....so is clown.

#131 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:22 PM | Reply

-his parents had him lobotomized!

LOL

#132 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:22 PM | Reply

You're too weak to take it...

#131 | Posted by eberly

Yes. It's true. You're my kryptomite.

ROTF LMAO

#133 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-16 10:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Eberly did what he always does

Make excuses for rightwing hate.

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 10:49 PM | Reply

A 2-bit lie you've used a thousand times?

I'm truly starting to pity you

I can see why Moder8 has begged me to stop.

#135 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 10:54 PM | Reply

this thread is an example of why the site died years ago

#136 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-16 11:02 PM | Reply

136

Using your analogy.....when this site was "alive" there were threads like this every day and night.

This thread is an example of when this site was actually alive.

You really just managed to see this from exactly the wrong perspective.

Not a little wrong......but 100% wrong.

#137 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:08 PM | Reply

actually......those threads involved more than just 2 posters...but rather 4-5 posters.

The post count was massively higher back in those days.

But you were complaining all the time back then as well.

And now you're......still complaining.

This place turned into the echo chamber was wanted it to be, Corky. Most of the meanies left and never came back.

You should be elated.

#138 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:13 PM | Reply

The best part of your meltdown, Eberly, is I actually did explain to you what's going on.

You're simply unable to accept my answer.

Which is what's made the rest of this ever so much more entertaining.

#139 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:14 PM | Reply

-I actually did explain to you what's going on.

All you did was deflect.

You didn't explain anything. You deflected from being caught lying.

You're so used to getting away with those tantrums you didn't realize you lie...until someone points it out to you.

Yes, it's entertaining.

But not for corky....who blamed us on killing this tie.

#140 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:20 PM | Reply

You didn't explain anything.

I did. Scroll up.

You deflected from being caught lying.

Lying about what?

it's entertaining.

Absolutely.

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:22 PM | Reply

#136: this thread is an example of why the site died years ago

Hi Corky: You mean there is nothing else in the world to talk about, like Dummkopf Trumpf's support for two brutal invasions (Russia and Gaza), a nefarious plan to destabilize Venezuela, the growing decline in children's vaccination rates nationwide, XJKs, US farm foreclosures, the USAG protecting oligarchs and elites in the Epstein files, school shootings, less safe cruise and air travel for Americans thanks to DOGE cuts, ICE raids and illegal deportations, Felon Musk initiating a race war in the UK, the ever-growing police powers of the Trumpf junta, the continuous pilferage of America's wealth by the Trumpf Crime Family (TCF), or the impact of GOP budget cuts to SNAP, Medicaid, and Medicare on the poor while the superrich lavish in their unneeded tax cuts?

Is that what you mean, Corky?

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#142 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-16 11:24 PM | Reply

Funny........Clown even needs the guy he attacked to save him from me.

But since he's not here......clown thinks it's a permission slip to deflect.

You accused Bill of posting hate and ignorance and literally attacking gays on this thread.

and can't produce a single post of that.

#143 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:27 PM | Reply

-Is that what you mean, Corky?

No, that's not what he means.

He's crying about Clown and me having a fight.

#144 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You accused Bill of posting hate and ignorance and literally attacking gays on this thread.

He did.

If you don't understand what he wrote as an attack on homosexuals, I can't help you.

I already explained this to you.

Maybe ask your kids for help.

#145 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:30 PM | Reply

He's crying about Clown and me having a fight.
#144 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Oh yea, spot on analysis, as always!

#146 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:32 PM | Reply

"an attack on homosexuals,"

I gave you that as an option earlier.

to admit your skin is so thin, you're embarrassed. That literally anything said is an attack, and it's hate and ignorance.

and still.......you can't produce a single post.

Because you're too embarrassed to point to anything he posted that was "an attack on homosexuals".

#147 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:33 PM | Reply

-Oh yea, spot on analysis, as always!

yeah

#148 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:34 PM | Reply

I remember this same thing happening quite a few years ago. Clown wouldn't stop attacking people personally.....and this was when we had some actual moderation to consider.


Are you talking about when you chased me thread to thread posting profanity so I would see how "hateful" my posts were?

That was hilarious. Thanks for the fond memory.

#149 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:35 PM | Reply

149

sounds familiar.

#150 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:38 PM | Reply

I gave you that as an option earlier.
#147 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You "gave me an option"?

Looks like I chose option "mock and ridicule Eberly".

By the way. Do you talk to people in real life like that?

This tough guy act doesn't suit an insurance salesman from middle of nowhere Kansas.

#151 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:38 PM | Reply

funny...corky did a weak drive by earlier but didn't manage to call me a drunk.

#152 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:38 PM | Reply

You should have given him the option to stick around and have fun.

#153 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:40 PM | Reply

-By the way. Do you talk to people in real life like that?

which do you think they'd prefer? The way I talk or the way you talk?

"Shut up Stupid"
"Fuck you"

#154 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Nice. I laughed pretty good.

#155 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:42 PM | Reply

-You "gave me an option"?

Yes. I did.

You're either lying and deflecting with this disingenuous shit you're throwing at me or you are too embarrassed to admit how thin your skin really is.
#101 | Posted by eberly

#156 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:43 PM | Reply

Oh. I guess you missed the sarcasm in that post.

Who gives a shht about your "options."

All you did was cover for BullJohnson so that hateful piece of shht could run away and fantasize about naked men.

#157 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:46 PM | Reply

No. Not sarcasm.

More like mocking tone.

#158 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:48 PM | Reply

-that hateful piece of shht could run away and fantasize about naked men.

Finally you admit what this is about.

It's not what he posted in this thread.

It's him.

#159 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You can't possibly still be serious.

You don't get it.

Get it?

#160 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:57 PM | Reply

What do you mean?

#161 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-16 11:58 PM | Reply

Your biggest mistake, Eberly, is believing your opinion about what BullJohnson wrote matters.

It doesn't.

You're out of your element.

#162 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-16 11:59 PM | Reply

Don't know what you're talking about.

This is a blog. We use words.

We have threads. We read posts. Respond to them.

WTF are you talking about?

#163 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 12:02 AM | Reply

Do you think your opinion matters?

And mine doesn't?

#164 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 12:04 AM | Reply

Do you think your opinion matters?

It matters to me, and possibly you.

And mine doesn't?

You know I like hearing your opinion.

But on the subject of homosexuality, homophobia, and BullJohnson's hate of gay people?

I really don't care if you think I'm over reacting or not.

It's personal for me. It's not personal for you. It doesn't even register for you. Because you don't get it and you can't.

You're not gay. You didn't grow up being gay.

Also my posting history with BullJohnson didn't start today.

#165 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 01:07 AM | Reply

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