ABC Bends the Knee, Removes Kimmel

Thursday, September 18, 2025

Disney's ABC said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late-night show off its schedule "indefinitely" after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the U.S., Nexstar Media, said it intended to pre-empt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

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So much for free speech ehhhhhhhh. Come on Jeff. Defend this.

#1 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-17 07:00 PM

The Trump administration is using the death of a hate monger to censor comedians.

Republicans don't want freedom of speech.

They want the freedom to be able to vomit up hate.

I didn't see this headline.

I like mine better.

Kimmel canceled

I read Kimmel's comment was saying Kirk was actually killed by "one of their own" and now trying to blame it on the left.

I said nobody wants to be connected to ---- like this.

ABC is terrified of tolerating that kind of thing

-The Trump administration

ABC is scared of their advertisers and viewers.

IOW, you and me.

ABC is scared of you and me.

I read the FCC pressured Disney and ABC.

" ABC is scared of their advertisers and viewers."

Nonsense.

The suits at Disney realize a win in public would lead to A LOT of losses on paper ... which is all that matters. Paramount's payoff was a rounding error in its merger.

Meanwhile, the current POTUS is shaking down corporate America, and Republicans are fine with that.

Further proof: Trump isn't expecting to get $15 Billion from NBC. He's expecting them to spend a lot of money, against his unlimited budget.

Is that the Republican ideal? Or are we dealing with a cult?

I'm saying advertisers and viewers are all of it.

Just part of it.

Dan,

People who want comedy instead of politics are going to be happy

-I read the FCC pressured Disney and ABC

Link?

Nevermind ... ... widely reported.

My bad ... ..

Our country is ------.

---- all magat scum

Lewzer did say Kimmel would be next.

"The MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said."

Facts will not be tolerated by the Trump Propaganda Police!

Kimmel was either misinformed or simply lying regarding the motive of th3 shooter. His edits to make Trump seem like he didn't give a rip about Kirk's death was kind of offensive and IMO not funny, but so what? Comedians are supposed to be edgy. I didn't see anything that, from my POV, warrants a suspension of his show.

Colbert will probably have Kimmel on his show and give him the Emmy he won the other day.

Well, if Colbert is allowed to have a show again.

" Lewzer did say Kimmel would be next.

#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2025-09-17 08:45 PM | FLAG: "

He's Nostradamus 2.0.

"Obama condemns horrific' Kirk shooting, but defends the right to criticize the founder of Turning Point USA

The former president suggested Republicans have deepened the nation's polarization in response to the killing.

"We can also, at the same time, say that I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake," he continued.

"I can say that I disagree with the suggestion that my wife or Justice Jackson does not have adequate brain processing power. I can say that I disagree that Martin Luther King was awful."

"When I hear not just our current president, but his aides, who have a history of calling political opponents vermin, enemies who need to be targeted, that speaks to a broader problem that we have right now," Obama said.

"When we have the weight of the United States government behind extremist views, we've got a problem," he added."
excerpts

www.politico.com

Bell,

My concern is that we're sliding from comedy into a kind of speech-policing that feels uncomfortably McCarthyesque.

I'm not saying I believe this to be true, but I do wonder who's next.

He's Nostradamus 2.0.

He's giving the orders. His authority is ultimate. It has to be.

...but I do wonder who's next.

Jon Stewart.

He's Nostradamus 2.0.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger

Censorship = Bad

Censorship = Good

in just 9 months!

And this time its REAL censorship on a HUGE scale.

Bell,

That being said, I'm not going to miss him.

These late night shows are tanking in the ratings and it's no wonder why.

We need another Johnny Carson.

Sam Kinnison is rolling in his grave right about now.

Whatever happened to Arsenio Hall?

I liked his energy.

This is wrong. Period.

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

We need another Johnny Carson.

A Medal of Freedom winner!

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Evidence to the contrary. Speak not ill of the King.

#5. You are such a lame troll. I've already denounced this. You cheered the Biden censorship regime.

#21 Antenna TV (on Xfinity and a TV antenna) has Johnny Carson at 11pm EST.

Wouldn't this be why Howard stern was glad he moved to satellite?

Laura.

You liked Sam Kinnison?

His voice grated on my nerves.

I liked the antics of Judy Tenuta.

She was funny and had a soothing voice.

This is wrong. Period.

Which part?

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.
#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Why?

Why can't a corporation decide it would rather stay out of the political speculation rotation, and just be a comedy late night show?
It would have perhaps been fine he wasn't so serious, but it really wasn't even a joke.

I have never been around when the late night shows were supposedly great, IMO they have always been poor political humor.

My concern is that we're sliding from comedy into a kind of speech-policing that feels uncomfortably McCarthyesque.

I recall a rodeo clown in a Obama mask got fired, I guess this was the beginning of the end for comedians.

"We can also, at the same time, say that I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake," he continued.

I always find these sorts of replies funny, they avoid the points that Charlie was making. I was always sold Obama a wise man, maybe its his cadence, but this really is just tiktok reponse.
Thanks for showing me that part of Obama, Corky.

I LOVED Sam Kinnison. Loved him loved him. Especially his skit on Married with Children. He rocked.

Sam Kinnison
Richard Pryor
Andrew Dice Clay
Johnny Carson

Etc etc

The FCC shouldn't be policing the accuracy of Kimmel's comments.

Laura,

This is the way comedy is meant to be.

Judy Judy Judy

www.youtube.com

- they avoid the points that Charlie was making.

Completely clueless Chinese... what will they think of next? Bringing back the queue?

Kirk was a nasty piece of work who denigrated every non-white male nationalist category of people he possible could for years and years. He would have likely spit on you if he saw you.

The 'out of context' meme is stupid and complete nonsense... one notices you have no comment on Kirk's description of Michelle and Justice Jackson.

You are an embarrassment to professional morons everywhere... you'll likely lose your membership card.

" I LOVED Sam Kinnison. Loved him loved him. Especially his skit on Married with Children. He rocked.

#31 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-09-17 09:45 PM | FLAG: "

Did you see the movie Back to School?

He was brilliant as Professor Turgeson.

" 35 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2025-09-17 10:04 PM | FLAG: "

I didn't follow him while he was alive. Yeah, I saw clips here and there on YouTube and whatnot but didn't actively follow him. Since he was murdered I e watched and listened to him a ton. None of your characterizations even remotely resemble what I've observed. Almost polar opposite.

Meanwhile Fox continues to condone their hosts calling for the imprisonment and murder of homeless and mentally ill people for simply existing.

Since he was murdered I e watched and listened to him a ton.

Pretty much Mother Thresa selling her cookies online, wasn't he?

" 38 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2025-09-17 10:21 PM | FLAG: "

One host. Kilmeade. But yeah. I hear ya.

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Watch the entire thing - don't read what people are reporting he said, or interpreting it. It's so innocuous it's ridiculous. And the Republican FCC guy was absolutely verklempt over it. Well, it was bs acting and indignation to be honest.

What Kimmel said was nothing compared to Kilmeade.

#40 - Don't lie. I saw the segment. It was all three. Jones said they should "be locked up in jail." Kilmeade said or "involuntary lethal injection...just kill them" To which Jones responded "yep" and Earhardt replied "Yeah, Brian." The other two never showed any sign of disagreement.

He was probably losing $40 Million per show anyway. Solid financial decision.

"#40 - Don't lie. I saw the segment. It was all three."

I only saw the Kilmeade piece. But yes, sound advice and echoed by Yav. Watch/listen firsthand and draw your own conclusions.

Thank you for that.

One host. Kilmeade

Kilmeade piled on with the "involuntary lethal injection" after Jones said lock them up in prison if they don't comply. Earhardt wasn't phased and asked, "Yeah, Brian, why did it have to get to this point?"

Kilmeade's apology was pathetic and inadequate. What a POS.

"Kilmeade's apology was pathetic and inadequate."

I said approximately the same thing on that thread.

"don't read what people are reporting he said, or interpreting it."

I don't watch him.

Nor did I Kirk

But it's obvious that's the case with Kirk. Everyone pretending to be offended over stuff they never heard Kirk say.

Thats how it works. People pretending to be offended at things not heard. Just "interpreted"

#44 - I watched the Kilmeade exchange completely in context - and it was obvious it was going off the rails before Kilmeade jumped in. Also I watched the Kimmel monologue - and he was dead on with it. The problem was he was criticizing the massive right-wing machine immediately (just like happened on here) blaming "The Left" before anything was really known. Contrary information started to appear, but it was early and things changed. The point he was making was still dead on. No one should be blaming others until we know WTF is going on. At least not at the level of President, DHC, FBI, and DOJ levels.

I knew when Kirk was killed it was just too sweet and too juicy an opportunity for Trump to go after his enemies, so he had to turn the full us government to that task, and set the message before we knew what really happened. If he was wrong, he still accomplished what he wanted. If he was right, he accomplishes what he wanted and he can point and say "see how dangerous these leftists are!"

I was so hoping America would make it to 250 years as a Democratic, Constitutional Republic.

Like I said. Kimmel is allowed to get it wrong.

BTW - read that 2nd paragraph in #48 and watch Kimmel. You'll see exactly what I'm saying perfectly illustrated by Trump's response to the Press about Kirk's murder.

" Thats how it works. People pretending to be offended at things"

You've read his quotes about blacks, especially black women. Would you be offended if he claimed those types of things about you?

I mean, you only have your job because you're white, male, and a Republican nepo baby. No qualifications whatsoever.

Right?

Insulting, or is the lie okay with you?

play-lh.googleusercontent.com

-You've read his quotes about blacks, especially black women.

Yep. I've seen both the direct quote in entirety and the interpreted summaries.

Have you actually read or seen what he actually said?

Because you might have given it away that you haven't.

" on. No one should be blaming others until we know WTF is going on. At least not at the level of President, DHC, FBI, and DOJ levels." - Yav

I agree. However this problem of jumping the narrative has been far more pronounced from left sources than righty sources on this issue from what I've observed.

" Have you actually read or seen what he actually said?"

Yes; I'm aware of the mis-quotes.

You seem to be unaware of the actual quotes.

Jimmy is allowed to get it wrong.

Fox News guys are allowed to get it wrong.

Clownshack is allowed to get it wrong.

Even I'm allowed to get it wrong.

But not here.

-You seem to be unaware of the actual quotes.

Nope

But you're offended by them?

Here are ACTUAL quotes.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Black women "do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Do you believe all "offended" claims are legit?

" But you're offended by them?"

The actual quotes? Yes.

My guess is you disbelieve the majority of the 14 DIRECT QUOTES in my link.

" Do you believe all "offended" claims are legit?"

I believe the quotes are quotes. You?

You believe he was talking about all black women?

100% of them aren't deserving their position?

Maybe think before you answer ... ...

-The actual quotes? Yes.

I don't think you are.

" You believe he was talking about all black women?"

You believe he wasn't?!?

Feel free to point out his caveat. At this point, you're pretending there is one.

BTW, you might want to read my link before embarrassing yourself.

"I don't think you are."

Tell me you didn't read the link without using those specific words.

Pointing out the obvious mis-quotes and misinformation regarding of Kirk is not a defense for his actual quotes.

There are plenty of them. Legit and real

" Pointing out the obvious mis-quotes"

I linked to actual quotes.

Why you can't deal with that is beyond me.

-You believe he wasn't?!?

He was referencing 2 successful black women who claimed they were the beneficiaries of AA.

You're pretending to be offended by that.

You're not.

" He was referencing 2 successful black women"

And then made it about Black Women.

It's pretty damned clear, to anyone but a water-carrier.

Did you read the quote, or is FoxNews filtering it all for you?

-I linked to actual quotes.

Yes, that's fine.

I'm attacking those quotes.

To be honest, if history says Kirk claimed black women are worthless and can't do ---- on their own ... ... that's how it goes.

Kimmel can live in the same judgmental world.

" You're pretending to be offended by that. You're not."

You're clueless.

Of course I'm offended; I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity.

More to the point, why are you endorsing behavior you'd try to eliminate if it was your son making these ugly statements?

Are you trying to he no different from clown and donner?

Fox News and water carrier?

You're done? Thrown in the towel this ---- fast.

I'm not that good. That smart.

Stop treating me like I am.

Danforth,

Do you believe Kirk advocated the stoning of homosexuals?

This is not a gotcha

-why are you endorsing behavior

I'm endorsing someone's behavior?

Clueless? No ----.

" To be honest, if history says Kirk claimed black women are worthless and can't do ---- on their own ... ... that's how it goes."

If? YOU WERE GIVEN THE DIRECT QUOTE.

And if you want to deny facts in front of your face ... that's how it goes.

Right?

" I'm endorsing someone's behavior?"

You're soaked from trying to carry all that water.

You even used the word "IF" when referring to A DIRECT QUOTE.

"Of course I'm offended; I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:44 PM |"

How do you feel about this comment:

"I'd offer condolences to his wife and kids but they are better off without him."

Not a gotcha

" Do you believe Kirk advocated the stoning of homosexuals?"

Why else would he call stoning "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters"...?

Feel free to tell us "what he REALLY meant" by that.

" How do you feel about this comment:"

It's cold and unfeeling. It lacks empathy.

Remind us how Charlie felt about empathy. Do you need a direct quote?

"Feel free to tell us "what he REALLY meant" by that.

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-17 11:52 PM"

Do you know what selective editing is?

I have on multiple threads posted contextual video clips that blow that BS out of the water. Perhaps you missed it - you don't live here so it's likely.

Dan,

"I'm a human being who believes others deserve to be treated with dignity"

Is that all people or just the ones who think like you?

" Do you know what selective editing is?"

Sure I do. Do you know what quotes around a phrase means?

Explain how Kirk didn't mean the actual words that came out of his mouth.

" Is that all people or just the ones who think like you?"

Everybody.

Even your wife.

-You're soaked from trying to carry all that water.

Im the unbiased one in this discussion.

Doesn't guarantee me to be right.

You've been emotional about Kirk for quite some time.

So ... ... .carrying water? I can endeavor to be objective and still fall short.

But I'm trying to be objective.

-Do you know what quotes around a phrase means?

Does it sting you have to pretend to be this dumb?

" Im the unbiased one in this discussion."

You couldn't even admit a direct quote was a direct quote.

That's sloshing-over-the-brim water-carrying.

Somebody give this man a towel!!!

#78 Dude.

Are you going to cherry-pick EVERYTHING?

The problem with this discussion is you are taking what you've been spoonfed (Leviticus) and narrowing it down to an 18-second clip where he is abruptly cut-off.

I am OK providing you contextual video clips if you are GENUINELY interested in seeing them. If you are not - if your mind is made up - then say so. I won't waste my time.

Dan,

"Feel free to tell us what he really meant."

Sure...if you take one line out of context, you can spin it however you like.

But if he's claiming to speak as a Christian, it matters that Jesus directly opposed stoning saying "let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

I'll leave it up to you to tell me what you think Charlie Kirk really meant.

" You've been emotional about Kirk for quite some time."

Quite some time?!? Wtf??? 20 posts, all above.

Do you have me confused with someone else?

Dan,

You sure don't treat people on this site who you disagree with, with a great deal of dignity.

-You couldn't even admit a direct quote was a direct quot

I can read.

-Quite some time?!?

Yeah. 5 years at least.

He's been addressing homosexuality for at least that long.

Nobody escapes your vision on that issue.

" I'll leave it up to you to tell me what you think Charlie Kirk really meant."

He said it, directly: stoning gays is GOD's solution.

Make no mistake: if the Charlie Kirks of the world got what they're advocating, the NEXT group will be gays who married straight people.

The Kirks of the world don't care who gets hit, as long as they're the ones throwing the stones.

-You sure don't treat people on this site who you disagree with, with a great deal of dignity.

LOL ... .compared to who?

" Yeah. 5 years at least."

I never posted a single thing about Charlie while he was alive.

Who are you confusing me with?

-I never posted a single thing about Charlie while he was alive.

Here? If you say so. You're saying you haven't been following him for at least the past 5 years?

"I never posted a single thing about Charlie while he was alive.
Who are you confusing me with?"

Yet you appear to be completely convinced he 100% was in favor of executing homosexuals.

The absurdity of that is astounding.

You sure don't treat people on this site who you disagree with, with a great deal of dignity.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-18 12:06 AM | Reply

Politics is a blood sport. If someone isn't rankling your feathers it's been done wrong. Just sayin

"He said it, directly: stoning gays is GOD's solution.
Make no mistake: if the Charlie Kirks of the world got what they're advocating, the NEXT group will be gays who married straight people.
The Kirks of the world don't care who gets hit, as long as they're the ones throwing the stones. - Danforth

I guess It's a total waste of my time to provide context, other contrary statments in full context that are contradictory 100% opposite to that characterization...

What is the point? You seem to have already discerned his view on this based upon an 18 second clip that was timed perfectly...

Are you interested in discussion or argument? If it's the former, demonstrate your intent in good faith. If it's the latter, I'm out and wish you enjoy the rest of your evening.

" You sure don't treat people on this site who you disagree with, with a great deal of dignity."

Sure I do.

But if they lie, or can't prove their claims, I'll take them to task. And if they claim to be Christians, while condemning someone like Laura Mohr, I won't hesitate to call them out for the blasphemous hypocrites they are.

But if you remember, that day you were in the dumps and questioning your faith, I leaped in with words of encouragement, insisting you not give up, and not let folks (including folks like me) get to you.

There's a world of difference between that, and challenging a lie you still can't prove after five years.

"Politics is a blood sport. If someone isn't rankling your feathers it's been done wrong. Just sayin

#97 | Posted by LauraMohr"

Sad but true. Well said.

" you appear to be completely convinced he 100% was in favor of executing homosexuals."

I'm 100% convinced he said what he said.

You're pretending he said one thing, but meant something else entirely.

" Are you interested in discussion "

With folks who can't even admit a direct quote is a direct quote?

No.

" I guess It's a total waste of my time to provide context"

Carry all the water you want.

Next, you'll be explaining how Kilmeade didn't mean THE ACTUAL WORDS HE UTTERED.

I never posted a single thing about Charlie while he was alive.

I'd actually never heard of him when he was alive.

Dan,

What are your qualifications to decide if someone is a hypocrite?

Exactly which topics are you an expert?

" What are your qualifications to decide if someone is a hypocrite?"

If someone claims to be a Christian, but has no problem bearing false witness, that's an obvious hypocrite.

If someone claims to be a Christian, but commits blasphemy by telling another poster you "won't be seeing them" in the afterlife, that's an obvious hypocrite.

And when they pretend to be a Christian, but support a candidate who breaks the majority of the Ten Commandments, and has the majority of the earmarks of the Anti-Christ ...

... obvious hypocrite.

Agreed?

Next, you'll be explaining how Kilmeade didn't mean THE ACTUAL WORDS HE UTTERED.

#103 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 12:25 AM | Reply

He already did that a few days ago saying something like he didn't know what was in Kikmeade's mind.

Then it was (paraphrasing) haven't you ever said things in anger you've regretted.

#103

I already ripped Kilmeade

Please keep up.

As for The Kirk quote you are fixated on....Sadly, you've confirmed my lowest expectations for you. Your mind appears to be made up off a single 18 second clip that was amazingly cut off right at the point where it needed to be. I've searched but haven't been able to find the clip beyond the 18-second sound bite. Maybe it captured the essence of his view (other, longer contextualized comments show the opposite). Maybe it's deliberately deceptive. Your mind appears to be unwaveringly made up. Do you know what was said following where that 18 second clip deliberately cut him off? What about the dialogue that preceded that 18 second clip?

"#107 | Posted by Alexandrite"

Are you attributing that to me?

My apologies for not being clear.

Dan,

Are far as hypocrisy, all Christians are.

But lucky you.

I guess you don't have that burden.

When Mary Magdeline was about to be stoned to death and Jesus stopped it by saying, "Those of you who have never sinned shall cast the first stone" the execution was halted. Had Danforth been there he would have demolished her with a boulder launched from a catapult.

x.com

KEY to the story about ABC suspending Kimmel's show: Nexstar and Sinclair, two big owners of ABC-affiliated stations, both need FCC approval for pending deals. With a lot of $$ on the line, both have reason to curry favor with the Trump admin. Both decided to yank Kimmel's show.

Had Danforth been there he would have demolished her with a boulder launched from a catapult.

Not before Lewzer whacked her with a Hellfire from a drone.

" I've searched but haven't been able to find the clip beyond the 18-second sound bite."

How convenient.

" Do you know what was said following where that 18 second clip deliberately cut him off?"

No. And it looks like neither do you.

But the Bible also says boys who sass back at their parents should be stoned. Kirk never mentioned THAT as "God's solution". Why?

Is it because he knows gays are safe targets for his listeners?

" Had Danforth been there he would have demolished her with a boulder launched from a catapult."

What a riot.

Kirk would condemn Jesus for his empathy.

More water, Gunga Bell!

Nexstar and Sinclair, two big owners of ABC-affiliated stations, both need FCC approval for pending deals. With a lot of $$ on the line, both have reason to curry favor with the Trump admin.

" Are far as hypocrisy, all Christians are"

Some A LOT more than others.

For example, do you have ANY evidence of your swiped-ballots scheme after five years, or are you willing to tell the truth and admit you have ZERO EVIDENCE, even after all this time?

"" I've searched but haven't been able to find the clip beyond the 18-second sound bite."
How convenient."

Amazing, right? But not for the reason you think.

"No. And it looks like neither do you."

Are you at all curious?

----

I can easily link multiple contextual videos that clearly eviscerate any notion he wanted gays to be executed.

I am not going to waste my time if your mind is 100% solidified based upon an 18 second clip.

www.lehmans.com

Something Jeff aught to get

"#117 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-18 12:58 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)"

My point flew over your head. I can clarify if you'd like.

" lucky you. I guess you don't have that burden."

I'm not the one posting lies.

If you don't want the burden from posting lies, stop posting lies.

"Something Jeff aught to get

#122 | Posted by LauraMohr"

I know what it is in a physical sense. I don't get how it pertains to this discussion. My guess is you were using it metaphorically. Sadly, it flew over my head.

"My point flew over your head."

No it didn't. Mainly because it's manure.

Charlie Kirk would mock Jesus for being woke with empathy.

And you're carrying water, even when presented direct quotes.

" I can easily link multiple contextual videos"

All existing proof to the contrary.

And why TF would I watch anything you post, when you can't be bothered with my link of DIRECT QUOTES? It undercuts ALL your "context".

Is it your position he wasn't ALWAYS cruel, so he wasn't these times either?!?

You carry the water for Trump. I was just trying to make it easier for you to carry that water.

Cherry-picked quotes while ignoring ALL other quotes that are contrary to the narrative you are trying to erect...

This is where your demonstrated intelligence betrays you - you are trolling out of boredom. Your better half is likely in blissful slumber and you are dealing with a bit of insomnia and are going into Snoofy mode begging for attention.

You are not currently interested in any kind of good faith discussion. You are trying to bait anyone you can find into an online verbal fight. I am not in the mood for it tonight.

So, I big you adieu.

Now, go back to your ideological bretheren and start chanting, "I'm glad Charlie's dead!!!" Do it loudly and proudly and then go set a Tesla on fire.

" go back to your ideological bretheren and start chanting, "I'm glad Charlie's dead!!!"

Never have, never will.

Why does lying give you such comfort?

" You are not currently interested in any kind of good faith discussion."

Posts the water-carrier who can't even address direct quotes directly.

It's like the comedy writes itself!

" You are trying to bait anyone you can find into an online verbal fight. I am not in the mood for it tonight."

What a riot.

YOU were the one who leapt into the posts between Eb and me.

Got historical revision???

Dan,

"Charlie Kirk would mock Jesus for being woke with empathy."

You're sick.

Or possessed.

Not sure which.

Dan,
"Charlie Kirk would mock Jesus for being woke with empathy."
You're sick.
Or possessed.
Not sure which.

#133 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-18 01:30 AM | Reply

It's true. Look it up. It's biblically true.

For some reason Danforth reminds me of the Safelight Auto-glass audio slogan.

Charlie Kirk would deport Jesus.

Cancel your Hulu Disney account
Boycott Disney parks

" You're sick. Or possessed."

Oh , look ... ANOTHER poster who didn't bother clicking my link of actual, direct quotes.

Google "Kirk" and "empathy."

Charlie mocked the type of empathy Christ invoked regarding Mary Magdalene.

Attempting to transform Kirk in death into something he was not in life is a fool's errand.
That said, in MAGAtland, there is a glorious abundance of the foolish and gullible.
Just check the wallets.

This needs context. The Chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr, a rabid MAGAt POS called Kimmel's words "the sickest conduct possible" and said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way" demanding "these companies" comply with their view. This is the same man that was ranting and out of control crying out about the danger of censorship by Biden over misinformation on public health issues.

www.newsweek.com

This is the retribution Trump promised, and Bellringer salivates over for their perceived slights of "free speech" that weren't even close to this level of censorship, cancel culture, and authoritarian demands to comply.

"their view" is the Trump administration's view, for those that need that extra help.

"their view" is the Trump administration's view, for those that need that extra help.

Well the Administration is there to uphold the law.

For those that need extra help, like LyinYav .. heres the law the FCC is referring too.

73.1217 Broadcast hoaxes.
(a) No licensee or permittee of any broadcast station shall broadcast false information concerning a crime or a catastrophe if:

(1) The licensee knows this information is false;

(2) It is foreseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm, and

(3) Broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm.

(b) Any programming accompanied by a disclaimer will be presumed not to pose foreseeable harm if the disclaimer clearly characterizes the program as a fiction and is presented in a way that is reasonable under the circumstances.
www.law.cornell.edu

He could have phrased it better and gotten away with it. But he didn't, he just isn't clever or funny enough.

But I have seen these videos of him .... why are you sticking up for a guy that does black face, and oggles women?
Is this funny Yav? Do you consider this humor?
x.com

One day Trump will be dead and his psychotic reign will be over. But the abject failure of our lawmakers, the media, law firms, universities, and businesses to do even the bare minimum to help defend the American Experiment is something from which it will take a very long time to recover.

"I already ripped Kilmeade
Please keep up."

Klimeade's words are exactly what he meant. I don't see any reason to try and interpret it away as though he didn't really say what he said.

And I think most of what Kirk said is the same. word for word.

I was talking about the "black women are inferior" line.

It was narrowed to the women he was specifically referencing. He was pointing out their admissions that they were the product of AA.

Now, with that said....this misunderstanding is really Kirk's fault. well....not anymore.

If he never walked that back or clarified it......it's on him. How he really felt about black women? I'll let others speculate.

I don't know how Biden really felt about his VP. It doesn't matter.

My concern is that we're sliding from comedy into a kind of speech-policing that feels uncomfortably McCarthyesque.
I'm not saying I believe this to be true, but I do wonder who's next.

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson

Your last line is contradictory.

It is happening. This is actual government censorship that people like ballwasher always claimed to be against.

And it's yet another example of Trump being exactly what we said he would be while you idiots convinced yourself he wouldn't be and voted for him.

" For some reason Danforth reminds me of the Safelight Auto-glass audio slogan."

What a coincidence.

You remind me of that guy in the Rudyard Kipling poem.

So the FCC chairman made his public remarks as to his opinion of Kimmel's comments.

"Carr, whose FCC regulates the networks, piled pressure on broadcasters when he openly criticized Kimmel for the comments and said on right-wing influencer Benny Johnson's podcast that licensed local stations taking the content need to "step up" against "this garbage.""

He talked on a podcast.

What did he formally do with regard to ABC, Sinclair, Nexstar, etc?

He's Nostradamus 2.0.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger

No, he's just an authoritarian/fascist that you gleefully voted for and enthusiastically support even now.

Have you started wiping your a*& with pages from your beloved pocket Constitution yet? You're doing it figuratively; you might as well start doing it literally.

Asking twitter to follow its own use rules is censorship to the retort's resident lying piece of ----

ABC/Disney needs Trump's blessing to complete a merger. Kimmel has been sacrificed to please the souless bloodsuckers.

He talked on a podcast.
What did he formally do with regard to ABC, Sinclair, Nexstar, etc?

#147 | Posted by eberly

And for my next trick, I'm going to act as if the head of the FCC making pointed statements about networks and who they support isn't seen as a warning to be acted upon by people whose only concern is shareholder value!

-ebtuse

Your reichstag is burning..

Geez....you can really be a hysterical cooze with almost no effort. That should scare you.

I think the public statements are a big deal coming from the head of the FCC.

I simply asked (I write in English I assume you can understand the words I use) if he did anything besides make the public comments.

Now, go back to being a hysterical cooze.

Dan,

"Charlie Kirk would mock Jesus for being woke with empathy."

I don't actually follow Kirk but apparently a lot of people do.

Your comment that Kirk would mock Jesus strikes me as hyperbole.

And frankly, anything written by you is suspect to being something taken out of context.

I would have to become familiar with everything Kirk has said and not just read one line.

Jesus would never have empathy for sin, which is probably the area of dispute here. What is "sin"?

He would have empathy for the sinner.

Kimmel was either misinformed or simply lying regarding the motive of th3 shooter. His edits to make Trump seem like he didn't give a rip about Kirk's death was kind of offensive and IMO not funny, but so what? Comedians are supposed to be edgy. I didn't see anything that, from my POV, warrants a suspension of his show.
#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-17 09:02 PM

Do you know what Discord is?

You obviously do not know what a groyper is.

What about Trump's response to questions about Kirk's death seems inoffensive? "I'm doing great" is very similar to how Netanyahu responded.

Kimmel is cancelled yet Kilmeade gets to skate free after seriously suggesting "involuntarily euthanize the homeless" says everything about your sensitivity to "offensive" language.

I am sure all the rightwads that cried over Biden removing revenge porn from the internet will cheer this because it fits their narrative.

The snowflake in chief cannot be criticized and all dissent must be squashed.

This is a just another stab at the heart of democracy.

Cancel Hulu and Disney+

150 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Kirk worshipped the Mean Jesus.

Kirk has now entered Mean Heaven.

That's his theology in a nutshell.

Jpw,

"It is happening"

Not necessarily. Not sure about that yet.

I was just mentioning the possibility.

It's not like liberals haven't gone through similar phases.

I mean, "woke" was already well on its way to becoming McCarthyesque before Trump.

"woke"

#153 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I've never seen MAGA define that.

Intentional?

Already cancelled Hulu, Disney+ and ESPN Unlimited.

I've already denounced this.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

On an anonymous site, from your basement? Your so brave!

Andrew Dice Clay

He had one bit that grew old real fast.

"woke"
#153 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON
I've never seen MAGA define that.
Intentional?

They can't. They don't understand what it is. They are told to hate it and blindly follow orders like good little sheep.

-Kilmeade gets to skate free after seriously suggesting "involuntarily euthanize the homeless"

Yeah, kill them but only if they reject our help.....

:-)

#6 | Posted by BellRinger

TARGETED

-On an anonymous site, from your basement?

should he do it from your basement?

Nixon,

"They can't. They don't understand what it is. They are told to hate it and blindly follow orders like good little sheep"

I feel the same way about "MAGA".

What exactly is a MAGA?

"Woke" and "MAGA" are both fairly subjective and mean different things to different people.

What exactly is a MAGA?
"Woke" and "MAGA" are both fairly subjective and mean different things to different people.

#157 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-18 10:57 AM | Reply

OMFG You don't know who you are?? You're MAGA Trumper for Pete ske.

"What exactly is a MAGA?"

If you have to ask you probably are one. If you don't know who the racist bigot is in your family it's you.

If you wear a maga hat and self identify as maga then you are definitely maga. If you argue for and support maga ideologies but don't wear the hat yet then you are a wannabe maga maroon.

Once the "civil war" and the Purge is declared and you come to my "foxhole" wearing a "maga" hat I'll plug ya right between the eyes.

GuaranGodDamnteed. So you better figure it out quick friend.

MAGA - Make America a White Christian Nationalist's Nation under the rule of King Donald.
Thou shalt not take the name of Donald in vain.
Thou shalt not speak poorly of Our King and Savior.
All will submit to our definition of morality, speech, of behavior, of comedy.
For those that do not comply, retaliation will be meted out.

All hail D! All hail D!

WOKE was clearly understood by those that used it well before The Ministry of Truth under MAGA (see above) redefined it so people like you could hate others and be victims. You'd do yourself a service to find out what it meant before it was coopted and redefined. It's historical use, why it was so powerful and relevant - and why it was viewed as so dangerous to the White "Christian" Nationalists, Republicans, and MAGA.

But you won't. That takes just a little work. It's easier just to be spoon-fed ---- you swallow without questioning. Truthiness.

"What exactly is a MAGA?"

I can recite the definition of fascism to you.

Sad trombone.

#18 | Posted by visitor_

Another "constitutional conservative" piece of s(*& weighs in.

Kimmel was 100% accurate - Right wing is attempting to deny "ownership" of this assassinator.

Richardson was a groyper - and they feel that MAGA is too liberal.

Conveniently, not one member of that Discord chat were interviewed by even the FBI.

Get a f'n clue, stupid misled MAGA.

"Our country is ------.
---- all magat scum

The ONLY reason, and it's not debatable or unclear, that this even became a thing was because of cancel culture. If you don't like people being canceled because of what they say, liberals shouldn't have been fighting so hard to do it. Out of all the liberal hypocrisy that is ruling your party today, THIS is by far the most egregious. To ignore the last 10+ years of liberals canceling every single person they could find that said things that didn't agree with liberal ideology is just absolutely absurd. Someone like Trump gets elected almost solely because of liberal actions.

Forgot to finish that post with a quote I've been saying for years here and anyone who has been here long enough has seen it...

"What one party does, so will the other...it's only a matter of time."

This has been true ever since I was old enough to understand politics. Those 4 decades have proven me right over and over again.

" Your comment that Kirk would mock Jesus strikes me as hyperbole."

You didn't bother to read the link where Kirk trashes empathy, did you?

What a coward.

Donner,

"If you have to ask you probably are one."

That is perhaps one of the stupidest comments I've seen in awhile.

I have yard work to do.

I'd rather pull weeds than read more of this hatred from people who claim they don't hate.

btw...my fall last winter where my hip and SI joint were wrecked pretty bad has shown major improvement.

Every Trump supporter right now applauding Trump threatening ABC with consequences unless they suspend Jimmy Kimmel must also applaud when a Democratic president in 4yrs threatens Fox News with consequences unless they suspend Greg Gutfeld.

#20 | Posted by humtake

"Buuuttttt theyyy did it toooooooooo"

What a f*&^ing moron.

"Jesus would never have empathy for sin"

He protected Mary Magdalene from the judgment of others.

Kirk would call that empathy.

Seriously, try clicking my link before embarrassing yourself further.

" this hatred from people who claim they don't hate."

All I hate are lies, cowardice, and ignorance.

If that's you ... that's on you.

I pay for Netflix, but I cannot afford anything else much beyond basic cable.

Kimmel was 100% accurate - Right wing is attempting to deny "ownership" of this assassinator.
Richardson was a groyper - and they feel that MAGA is too liberal.
Conveniently, not one member of that Discord chat were interviewed by even the FBI.
Get a f'n clue, stupid misled MAGA.

#162 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2025-09-18 11:35 AM | FLAG:

Did you know there was Japanese soldier still fighting the war 30years after it was over?

Don't be this guy.

Cancel culture is not a thing you rancid turd

What you are referring to is people expressing their opinions at noxious and vile speech and behavior

People are allowed to have opinions

People are allowed to express their opinions by boycotting those nasty people

But no powerful person has been cancelled

Bill Maher has gotten rich and still has a show

Louis ck and Kevin spacey and Gina Carano still get work

Jk Rowling is still writing books

Cancel culture is a lie you have swallowed by right wing professional victims

What is happening now IS actual censorship

You're too ------- stupid to understand the difference

"What one party does, so will the other...it's only a matter of time."

You really are just a One Trick Pony aren't you?

Both parties are not the same. This is just another maga lie.

The lie goes kinda like this:

Since everyone in politics is corrupt and ineffectual, you might as well vote for the corrupt and ineffectual candidate who will troll on your behalf, espousing your culture-war arguments, because at least you will have the satisfaction of driving the other side crazy.

This is the lie you want democrats and liberals to believe.

Because if liberals come to believe that both parties are the same then there's no point in voting, then a small margin of committed ideologues is enough to swing an election rightward.

And, of course, this is exactly what has happened so if a lie works keep doing it right Mr Both Parties are the Same?

Accusations of cancel culture are the right wing's effort to prevent you from having an opinion you don't like

The left doesn't like a pundit posting racist ----? You point it out- you're canceling him

The right doesn't like a beer company giving a trans person a can of beer BOYCOTT and that's just fine

Right wing scum are forever victims

The -----

An opinion THEY dont like

- hatred from people who claim they don't hate.

Which is the problem with Charlene Kirk.

Kimmel was 100% accurate - Right wing is attempting to deny "ownership" of this assassinator.
Richardson was a groyper - and they feel that MAGA is too liberal.
Conveniently, not one member of that Discord chat were interviewed by even the FBI.
Get a f'n clue, stupid misled MAGA.
#162 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2025-09-18 11:35 AM
Did you know there was Japanese soldier still fighting the war 30years after it was over?
Don't be this guy.
#167 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-18 12:08 PM

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Do you know what any of that means or is referencing?

I'll bet that you don't have a clue.

Here's that [LINKY].

Don't be this guy.

#167 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Did you know foreign agitators can easily be designated as terrorists by Dear Leader?

Don't be THAT guy.

Dan,

"He protected Mary Magdalene from the judgment of others.
Kirk would call that empathy.
Seriously, try clicking my link before embarrassing yourself further."

Modern scholars believe the woman about to be stoned was not Mary Magdalene.

Regarding this story, Jesus was protecting the stone throwers from committing the sin of judgment.

And to the woman Jesus said, "go and sin no more".

Jesus was protecting the stone throwers from committing the sin of judgment.

#172 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

And protecting the woman fro being stoned.

So Jesus had empathy for everyone involved.

What am I missing?

You're missing the fact that MAGA has declared a war on empathy.

People like BullJohnson would spit on Christ.

That is perhaps one of the stupidest comments I've seen in awhile.

You should read what you write!

Jesus would never have empathy for sin, which is probably the area of dispute here. What is "sin"?

How stupid is this!? Your God does not get to define what a sin is for me. Only my God gets to do that.

I'd rather pull weeds than read more of this hatred from people who claim they don't hate.

Best go pull those weeds then and quit whining. You are accomplishing nothing here that's for sure.

And to the woman Jesus said, "go and sin no more".

#172 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Or just stop believing in a Bronze Age myth and you won't be a "sinning" no more!

- a Bronze Age myth

Is a myth...

www.reddit.com

Oh you pedantic putz

Bronze era myths is short hand for believing in crap derived from pagan ignorance

Myths based on a very limited understanding of life and nature

Of course they had understanding about f some things of even some complex concepts

But they also didn't know about microbes and viruses thus the need for a law to not mix dairy with seafood or hooved animals or whatever

Or laws on how to treat slaves-it took a few more centuries for mankind to kind of accept that all humans have inherent value (many still need to learn that even today)

Or that cutting a lambs throat was an actual sacrifice. Because food was limited. So killing a lamb (ie a food source) was an actual sacrifice of a necessity. Today when food is abundant killing an animal to get closer to god would be pointless since there really isn't a scarcity so giving up an abundant resource is no sacrifice

So yeah your point is just dumb

Conservative Christians aren't Christians, they're hate filled pieces of shht using religions to hurt and attack others.

Clown,

"Conservative Christians aren't Christians, they're hate filled pieces of shht using religions to hurt and attack others."

Indeed, there are absolutely Christians who weaponize their faith.

But there are also plenty who actually live by its principles of compassion, forgiveness and humility.

Condemning all conservative Christians as hateful makes you sound just like the people you're criticizing.

#177

Yet it stands unrefuted by your hateful rants; what is called a Bronze Age myth occurred in the Iron Age, was the point you missed.

Truth,

"Because food was limited."

I've read most sacrificed animals were eaten except for burnt offering.

#179

MAGA white nationalist 'Christians' have unfortunately become the face of Christianity in this country as they are manipulated and used by a political movement, Trumpism, based on fear and hatred.

180

You do realize the era of the myth is irrelevant right?

"There are none so blind as those who will not see" br />
With the truthhurts codicil "unless thst person is a religionista avoiding plain logic "

ABC/Sinclair/NextStar have a right to fire someone who is not meeting their standards of employment - have no issue with that.

The issue is - Trump has both on video and social media talked about "Kimmel is next". Long before the Kirk assasination.

Then the FCC chair says we can "do it the easy way, or the hard way".

We also know NextStar is trying to acquire other stations and needs FCC approavl (much like the CBS/Paramount/Skydance/Colbert fiasco).

Kimmel fired.

If the government is putting their finger on the scale, that's wrong. And dangerous.

Conservative Christianity is a perversion of the teachings of Christ.

Emperor Trump is making sure no one questions him.

Donner,

In my case I have stopped simply "believing" in God.

I am absolutely positive there is something out there. My life experiences have convinced me of that.

And the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only faith I know of that seems to have a real purpose to it.

Having to explain religion to people who supposedly believe in it

What did Jesus do?

He sacrificed himself to take away the sins of the world

He did that by suffering and dying as the sacrificial lamb

People get closer to god by eating the flesh and blood ie the ritual cannibalism

But they must also sacrifice. Sacrifice is part of the process. They must not eat on Friday they must fast they must give up something for lent. Some faiths scourge themselves

Sacrifice is part of the process of communion with god either through ones own sacrifice OR by eating the
class and drinking the blood of the creature that gave up its life

Kind of sick that a creature has to give up its life for a person to feel closer to god shoot to feel anything

and yet to you reject the most important teachings of Jesus

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

How many of these are an essential part of maga?

"Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me."

Where in magat doctrine that you follow is the above implemented?

MAGA isn't Christianity:

antichrist45.com

see #14

We are now officially a fascist government.

Texas and Florida have already been there for some time. I predict Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Oklahoma will quickly follow.

---- all magat scum

Posted by truthhurts

then he
...proceeds to preach

Texas and Florida have already been there for some time.
-G1

Same with CA, voters have been denied their wins by the fascist government.

One Struck down by the State courts, and
The other Newsom won't fund it.

Fascist!

Corky,

"MAGA isn't Christianity"

Whoever said they are?

MAGA is secular, not a religion and not part of the government.

However people "maga" are free to incorporate parts of (pick and choose) Christianity as they so choose since its not actually a government office or adhering to any particular church doctrine.

And include secular ideas having nothing to do with biblical teaching.

It was narrowed to the women he was specifically referencing. He was pointing out their admissions that they were the product of AA.

Of course he prefaced that by commenting on a black customer service rep who is "mornonic" - and how did she get there.

And this wrap up that "they're coming out and they're saying it for us ... You do not have the brain processing power" is not what pro-AA are saying about it. That's what he's saying. That's Kirk's view.

And its reasonable to infer that his net encompasses more than just those three.

#224

You are in denial BJ

AI Overview

It is inaccurate to claim that MAGA is secular and not part of the government. In reality, the movement has a close and complex relationship with both religion and government.

While MAGA itself is a political movement rather than a religious institution, a core component of its base is rooted in a specific strain of Christian nationalism, and its influence extends deeply into the structures of the U.S. government.
more

www.google.com

Corky,

"In reality, the movement has a close and complex relationship with both religion and government."

And so do athiests and atheism as an organized group.

Been that way for years.

Well...so NOW its a problem claiming religious beliefs are influencing the government.

Corky,

I found several atheists groups that exist for the sole purpose of pushing an agenda to influence the government.

That's not what you said, which was:

'MAGA is secular, not a religion and not part of the government.'

"But, but... atheists do it, too!" is a Whataboutism.

Pls name me the last atheist President?

I mean other than the evil bastard we have now.

Corky,

And don't play dumb claiming atheism isn't functionally a religion.

The religion of the ... scientific method.

if atheism is a religion who are atheists praying to? Idiot.

'MAGA is secular, not a religion and not part of the government.'

That was your claim, now it's a Whataboutism... as if two wrongs make a right.

Corky,

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Are you in denial that your side plays the exact same game when it's convenient?

#234

Admission of your sin is good for your soul, my son. Go now, and try to sin a little less.

Or, continue with the, "But, Mommy, little Johnny did it, too!" nonsense.

Corky,

Religious groups lobby, sue, and organize to shape policy.

So do atheists and secular groups.

Right? Wrong?

Thats just how it works.

Now its bad that young people are listening to Charlie Kirk and liking what they hear and from a professing Christian.

- Charlie Kirk

Was kid-baiting hater who's in context quotes describe a racist, Chauvinist, misogynist hater who distorted the Word to demean others.

Or, son caught with hand in the cookie jar. "Honestly, Mom, I wasn't taking it out. I was putting it back in."

Now its bad that young people are listening to Charlie Kirk and liking what they hear and from a professing Christian.

#236 | Posted by BillJohnson

It's bad that those young people never learned what fascism is so that they would know where it leads.

SP's are a religion.

-Scientologists.

do you see how ridiculous you sound, bill?

It wasn't Christianity that made Charlie Kirk say terrible things, theres good things in the bible too. imo its a mixed bag and religion is a tool.

how you use it shows everyone who you really are.

#241

I am not religious, but I would be you can't pick and choose your rules and morals, like a taco Bell menu

#242 | Posted by oneironaut

Your entire party ignores every thing jesus ever said, under the justification that abortion is the most important thing to them, even though jesus never mentioned it.

" from a professing Christian."

A "professing Christian" who not only treated "certain others" as the least of his brethren, he went out of his way to CREATE the least of his brethren.

#14) The Antichrist is revealed by the falling away " 2 Thessalonians 2:3

A remarkable and yet often overlooked meaning behind this verse is that the "falling away" " or those that leave the faith " will be tied in with the revealing of the man of sin.

In other words, these two events are related, as those who fall away from the faith will fall TOWARDS the man of sin.

Thus, it is the falling away that reveals the Antichrist, as we simply need to look at those who have fallen away from the faith and see WHO they are gravitating towards.

It's not simply a falling away for the sake of leaving the faith, but a falling away FROM Jesus Christ and TOWARDS the Antichrist.

This is exactly what we've seen over the past few years with many Christians and their love affair with Trump. While Trump's vileness would have been repulsive in any other politician, strangely Christians not only embraced him, but started talking about him as if he was a man of God.

Even worse, some Christians now consider Trump as the savior of America, putting him on the same level as Jesus.

But to those of us who are watching, their falling away from the faith helps us identify who the Antichrist is, as we simply need to observe WHO they are embracing instead of Jesus."

antichrist45.com

It's an interesting video (and transcript), yesterday even Heliumrat loved it!

" can't pick and choose your rules and morals, like a taco Bell menu

POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-09-18 03:43 PM | REPLY

thats exactly what anyone who is not a bible literalist actually does.

Here's Kimmel's quote:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

.
You know, you could interpret that quote as Kimmel himself not denying the shooter isn't MAGA, but that MAGA will go to any length - factual or nonfactual - to not be associated in any way with the killer. And there is proof of this from social media posts and podcasters, which can be looney.

An example would be "Obama and the deep state are behind this because Kirk was a Presidential candidate".

Corky,

I've said this before and now repeating myself.

If you are going to accept and believe that the antichrist is real, then you must believe Christ is real.

Atheism isn't an organized movement.

Conservative Christianity is a perversion of Jesus Christ's teachings.

Christianity has been used as a tool of oppression and violence by conservatives ever since they killed Christ.

#248

Hmmm... deep thought. So, what did you think of the video you didn't watch?

I've said this before and now repeating myself.

If you are going to accept and believe that the antichrist is real, then you must believe Christ is real.

#248 | Posted by BillJohnson

If you believe christ is real why do you ignore all his teachings and support a leader who does the exact opposite?

#251 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-18 04:52 PM | Reply

THIS SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Obama urges media companies to 'start standing up' to Trump after Kimmel suspension

Former President Barack Obama took to social media to urge media companies to stop giving in to the Trump administration after ABC suspended late-night talk show "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk's fatal shooting.

"After years of complaining about cancel culture, the current administration has taken it to a new and dangerous level by routinely threatening regulatory action against media companies unless they muzzle or fire reporters and commentators it doesn't like," Obama wrote in a post on X on Sept. 18.

"This is precisely the kind of government coercion that the First Amendment was designed to prevent " and media companies need to start standing up rather than capitulating to it," Obama said in a follow-up X post, linking to a New York Times article about the firing of Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah, who said she was let go for her comments on social media after Kirk's death."

www.usatoday.com

Meanwhile:

"Trump floats pulling licenses if networks are against' him after Jimmy Kimmel suspended"

www.cnbc.com

Orange Adolph, indeed.

"Disney's ABC said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late-night show off its schedule "indefinitely" after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the U.S., Nexstar Media, said it intended to pre-empt airings of the program"

Priceless!!!

"President Donald Trump cheered the suspension, while Hollywood unions warned it set a dangerous precedent for free expression. Kimmel, 57, has not commented publicly, though sources told The Post he is "absolutely f"king livid."

They call it Karma....-----

#255 | Posted by Javelin

Karma would imply he did something to deserve it. Can you name what that is or do you just bark at whoever your master commands?

You can't expect people who didn't graduate from high school to understand the words they're using.

Karma would imply he did something to deserve it.
~ SpeaksWithForkedTongue

You need to ask Gal about this, she seemed to feel Charlie Kirk getting assassinated was "karma".

#258 | Posted by oneironaut

Well in that case it would apply. Since he was the one saying shootings are worth it, and that children should witness public executions.

Now what did Kimmel say or do that would make his firing "karma?"

Speak,

"If you believe christ is real why do you ignore all his teachings and support a leader who does the exact opposite?"

Why do you think I should get the blame for what someone else does?

I'm responsible for my actions, not his, and not yours. Just mine.

There's no blaming someone else for my faults, like some people like to do.

You're confusing secular politics and Christian faith.

Speak,

"If you believe christ is real why do you ignore all his teachings and support a leader who does the exact opposite?"

Why do you think I should get the blame for what someone else does?

I'm responsible for my actions, not his, and not yours. Just mine.

There's no blaming someone else for my faults, like some people like to do.

You're confusing secular politics and Christian faith.

#260 | Posted by BillJohnson

I didn't say the word blame or discuss the topic of blame.

I asked why YOU empower a man to lead us who is the exact opposite of everything christ taught?

The only blame I'm placing is on you. You're the one choosing to ignore everything jesus ever said.

I have noticed more and more the major network news sections are very carefully choosing how they word their reports so as not to upset Trump. I no longer trust them to give news and will hunt the independent news sites for daily information. You can not get the gist of what is happening in the world when you are only presented one side. At present we no longer have free speech. In his latest bout with networks he's told them to get rid of all their late night hosts and shows. Comedy is usually about people but Trump can't stand anything that puts him in a negative light. Threatening networks with the FCC cancelling their broadcast license is really bad news. The networks will cave to protect their income and that is why they can no longer be trusted anymore than the major lawyer houses that bowed to his demands to give him free legal representation or go to court over slander and the like. Democracy is a whimper to what it once was.

- will hunt the independent news sites for daily information.

Try Ground News, maybe.

I guess Kimmel can join Tucker in Satan's B-hole.

Speak,

"You're the one choosing to ignore everything jesus ever said."

Obviously it went over your head.

I am not responsible for the behavior of anyone but me.

Yea...there are some pretty strict Christians who claim I should only vote for someone who professes to be a Christian.

So you're dishing out that same sanctimonious nonsense.

I can vote for whomever I want.

"I am not responsible for the behavior of anyone but me."

Sounds strangely like Am I my brother's keeper?!?

How'd that turn out for Cain?

... Disney's ABC said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late-night show off its schedule "indefinitely" after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the U.S., Nexstar Media, said it intended to pre-empt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. ...

Yeah, Nexstar is seeking FCC approval for its $6.2 billion merger with Tegna.

So, is this looking like a (possibly illegal?) quid pro quo by Pres trump's FCC?

The $6.2 billion deal that could reshape local TV across America (August 21, 2025)
www.washingtonpost.com

... TV watchers in Indianapolis may soon flip through the local news channels and find three of them owned and their broadcasts produced by the same company. Nexstar, the largest TV station owner in the United States, already owns two of the city's top stations, CBS 4 and Fox 59. Under a proposed deal to buy a smaller rival, Tegna, it would own NBC affiliate WTHR, too. ...

" If you are going to accept and believe that the antichrist is real, then you must believe Christ is real."

Fair enough.

Name two aspects of the Anti-Christ which don't apply to Donald Trump.

Dan,

"Sounds strangely like Am I my brother's keeper?!?"

So you're not just qualified to call out hypocrites.

You're an Old Testament prophet too.

Did the Lord personally beam this revelation to you, or are you just freelancing as His spokesman?

You know...there's actually a name for people with that kind of delusion of grandeur.

They call it a Messiah Complex.

@#269

Trying to dismiss and demote the messenger, instead of gainsaying the message?

Speak,

"You're the one choosing to ignore everything jesus ever said."

Obviously it went over your head.

I am not responsible for the behavior of anyone but me.

Yea...there are some pretty strict Christians who claim I should only vote for someone who professes to be a Christian.

So you're dishing out that same sanctimonious nonsense.

I can vote for whomever I want.

#265 | Posted by BillJohnson

Exactly. And YOU CHOOSE to ignore jesus' teachings and elect a leader who is the opposite of everything jesus ever taught.

YOU are responsible for that choice and you will have to explain that choice when you try to plead your way into heaven. I doubt st peter is going to play your semantic games.

" you're not just qualified to call out hypocrites."

You're just embarrassed your hypocrisy is soooooo frickin' obvious.

Feel free to name two Commandments Trump embodies.

If you can't, have the class to tell the truth.

" Did the Lord personally beam this revelation to you, or are you just freelancing as His spokesman?"

Wow. You'll just spit on the Bible rather than tell the truth.

" You know...there's actually a name for people with that kind of delusion of grandeur."

Yeah.

BillJohnson.

Pretends to be holier-than-thou, but it turns out he's just a skid row guttersnipe.

I can vote for whomever I want.

So you chose an adulterous convicted criminal, who has also been found guilty of sexual assault and who was best friends with Jeffery Epstein.

You really are a conservative Christian.

"I've already denounced this."

Until your next trip to the voting booth, where you'll trade denouncing for enabling.

" I can vote for whomever I want."

True.

But you can't pretend to be a Christian, and vote for the candidate who regularly breaks 80% of the Commandments.

Of course, that's assuming anyone can name two Commandments Trump FOLLOWS.

" Dan hath spoken."

Prove me wrong. You've heard that before, right?

But go ahead, rub my nose in the truth.

Name Two Commandments Trump follows, and two aspects of the Anti-Christ which don't apply.

If you can't (and clearly you can't, since you already would've if you could) then have the Christian fortitude to admit as much.

You know ... tell the truth for a change, instead of deflect away from it.

After 20 years of posting on this site thinking I was protected by the first amendment, republicans have dragged the country so far from its principles that I now realistically have to be worried about retaliation for years of speaking the truth about trump. Not that my words have any affect on the world, but that fascist AI will be sent to dig through everything anyone has ever said, any mistake on a tax return or loan application, any stolen netflix subscriptions, and use that to prosecute their enemies. In the larger purpose of scaring everyone into submission because they know they could be next. Now we're russia. Now we are a place where you can't criticize the ruler without fear of retribution.

How does that feel trumpers, knowing you have brought america to this place? This is literal fascism in action. You're sick of hearing the word fascism? That's your fault for being fascists. When it's raining I'm going to call it rain, not "water from the sky."

[dems did it first!]

No they didn't. Dems prosecuted idiots and fascists who stormed the capitol.

Dems asked social media companies to stop spreading russian propaganda - defending the nation from foreign attack. That enraged republicans because russian propaganda helps them so much.

Look at what you've become.

Now a dictator, the tech billionaires, the media billionaires, the bank billionaires, and the oil billionares have all teamed up, and you're ------- rooting for it.

And then you whine that we shouldn't call you stupid.

@#278 ... Dan hath spoken. ...

So, admitting you have nothing in response, implicitly admitting that the post is correct?

Dan,

"tell the truth"

Immigration, identity politics, parental rights, along with crazy Joe, Cackles and anti-American policies such as attacking Constitional rights and more, is what put Trump in office.

Dems put Trump in office.

Immigration, identity politics, parental rights, along with crazy Joe, Cackles and anti-American policies such as attacking Constitional rights and more, is what put Trump in office.

Dems put Trump in office.

#282 | Posted by BillJohnson

No fascist propaganda about those topics put trump in office. Hammered into your soft brain by the same billionaires who are now leaching off the king of corruption.

Immigration, identity politics, parental rights, along with crazy Joe, Cackles and anti-American policies such as attacking Constitional rights and more, is what put Trump in office.
Dems put Trump in office.

#282 | Posted by BillJohnson

You just described everything Trump is ------- up.

And he's a Pedo.

Congrats on smearing your brand.

Dan,

There's your truth.

I have no desire to take anyone's bait.

Dems ran a lousy campaign and 2 lousy candidates.

Not to mention people actually liked what Trump was saying. He said what they wanted to hear and is doing many things they wanted to see done.

I could care less about his personal life.

@#284 ... You just described everything Trump is ------- up.

And he's a Pedo.

Congrats on smearing your brand. ...

You noticed that also?

Taking a step back here, why does the Christian Right seem to be so enamored with Pres Trump, when he seems to act contrarily with nearly all they espouse?

Is the apparent membership in the MAGA cult more important to those Christians than the Christianity they seem to espouse?

Dems put Trump in office by running a hollow campaign with hollow candidates.

Face it.

Maybe next time have something to say.

"Dems ran a lousy campaign and 2 lousy candidates."

Repubs ran a lying campaign and 2 lying candidates. And the lies and the liars won. Go figure.

@#287 ...Dems put Trump in office by running a hollow campaign with hollow candidates.

Face it....

That looks like an unsubstantiated opinion.

So, what else yer alias got?

Gal,

It's no lie the Dems had no message beyond "Kamala good, Trump bad."

She could barely get into specifics.

Maybe because she had to wait for her orders and instructions. Other people were clearly in charge with Biden and would have been with her too.

Her off-the-cuff interviews? Weak at best.

Repubs ran a lying campaign and 2 lying candidates. And the lies and the liars won. Go figure.

How did they lie? Trump has done everything he said he would do. I got what I voted for....

No lies here.

worried about retaliation for years of speaking the truth about trump.

That's rich coming from the cancel culture group. No one gives a rats ass how you feel about Trump.

You can not get the gist of what is happening in the world when you are only presented one side.

Jesus BBQ, the entire media complex was only presenting ONE side, which was liberal, which is why you had no problem with it.

Now, some are presenting from the other side and you are uncomfortable with it.

Welcome to our world for the last 10 years.

Repubs ran a lying campaign and 2 lying candidates. And the lies and the liars won. Go figure.

#288 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-18 09:06 PM | Reply

This so much this. If truth be told. Trump shouldn't have been able to run again much less assume office again. Our country is ------ up.

- was only presenting ONE side, which was liberal,

News that doesn't glorify Donald Trump is always Fake News.

Here he is today, telling Lie after Lie after Lie:

www.cnn.com

David Letterman Drops SURPRISE KIMMEL BOMB On Trump

www.youtube.com

@ 3 mins in

@#295 ... News that doesn't glorify Donald Trump is always Fake News. ...

So... I'm not the only person to observe that?

Jefferson Airplane - Today (1967)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...
genius.com

...
[Verse 1]
Today, I feel like pleasing you more than before
Today, I know what I wanna do, but I don't know what for
To be living for you is all I want to do
To be loving you it'll all be there when my dreams come true

[Verse 2]
Today you'll make me say that I somehow have changed
Today you look into my eyes, I'm just not the same
To be any more than all I am would be a lie
I'm so full of love I could burst apart and start to cry

[Verse 3]
Today, everything you want I swear it all will come true
Today, I realize how much I'm in love with you
...

OK, a song from more than a half-century ago.

But the lyrics seem to describe AG Bondi's relationship with Pres Trump, and why she seems to endeavor to please him at every turn.

" There's your truth."

Why nothing about Trump? Why can't you name two Commandments he follows, or two aspects of the Anti-Christ Trump DOESN'T embody?

Your "truth" was either name the two, or admit you can't.

You couldn't even be that honest.

Dan,

"Why nothing about Trump? Why can't you name two Commandments he follows, or two aspects of the Anti-Christ Trump DOESN'T embody?
Your "truth" was either name the two, or admit you can't.
You couldn't even be that honest."

You wanted truth.

Didn't I already say I don't care about his personal life?

You sure are arrogant, expecting me to jump just because you say "frog."

And calling me "dishonest" just because I don't play your little game?

You're also manipulative. It's gaslighting dressed up as moral superiority.

" And calling me "dishonest" just because I don't play your little game"

I called you dishonest because you won't admit you can't name Two Commandments Trump follows, or two aspects of the Anti-Christ he DOESN'T embody.

You can't even admit your own truth.

" You're also manipulative. "

I'm telling the truth.

If you feel manipulated when confronted with the truth, that's YOUR problem.

" Didn't I already say I don't care about his personal life?"

Which part?

The raping kids, the ripping off workers, or the compulsive lying?

Or do you support him BECAUSE he lies?

@#299 ... It's gaslighting dressed up as moral superiority. ...

Project much?

"How did they lie?"

Were they eating the dogs and cats in Ohio?

And did JD Vance claim he'd KEEP LYING when confronted?

Why, yes he did!
www.yahoo.com

Dan,

You handle the worrying.

I'll focus on my 401K and the price of eggs.

Deal?

"Deal?"

Thanks for admitting you have nothing, as usual.

Can't even FACE the truth.

" I'll focus on my 401K"

Be sure to include the dollar's double-digit drop in value.

If you can suddenly handle the truth, of course.

Dan,

That's the point of retiring.

Let other people fret for a change.

Thank God I'm not having to listen to Kamala's voice and laugh.

Trump's voice is a little irritating which is why I mostly read.

But Kamala's weird nervous laugh. Aaaahhhh...

" But Kamala's weird nervous laugh."

Trump's lies didn't bother you, but Kamala's laugh DID?!?

Just admit strong women frighten you.

"That's the point of retiring."

Your purchasing power just dropped thru the floor. You think that won't affect you???

That's the point of retiring.
Let other people fret for a change.
Thank God I'm not having to listen to Kamala's voice and laugh.
Trump's voice is a little irritating which is why I mostly read.
But Kamala's weird nervous laugh. Aaaahhhh...

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-19 12:36 AM | Reply

That's a ---- of a reason not to vote for her. Because of her laugh. You're scared of her aren't you??? You're a real misogynist aren't you?? Yeah w know you are.

Trump's voice is a little irritating

I'd call it "whiney".

Boaz you seem to forget people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Mark Levin, all of who were right wing commentators. The left didn't call for their dismissible because they didn't like the message. My point being there were two sides of an issue and it was discussed over the public air waves. When there is only one side, it's no longer news, it becomes propaganda.

That's not the case now is it, with the firing of Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel? Both had government pressure plus hidden agendas by their parent companies to get mergers or buyouts approved.

Who feels sorry for ABC?

They are victims of government overreach, right?

This is clearly a violation of free speech and probably other constitutionally protected rights.

ABC shouldn't have a gun to it's head.

So why doesn't ABC tell the FCC to go ---- themselves? Lawyer up and accuse the government of exactly what they are guilty of?

Kimmel can join or he can just sue his employer for ------- him over on his show.

Why is everyone cowering in the corner and allowing it to happen?

Fear, Big Stinky FEAR.

Of being sent to Uganda if they stand up to Trump on Anything.

You'll see Trump Lover, pull your head out of your Ass.

The World had Turned.

The kid gloves are Off.

No more freedoms.

They're for Suckers and Losers.

You voted for and support this.

Dumbass.

-Of being sent to Uganda if they stand up to Trump on Anything.

You think ABC is worried about that?

www.businessinsider.com

This is what this about. The word you're searching for is "greed".

Greed is winning here. Trump and the FCC are clearly taking advantage of it. ABC will grin and bear it and Kimmel will be paid well.

Now.....go back to your dolls, you worthless little maggot.

Eb,

"Who feels sorry for ABC?
They are victims of government overreach, right?
This is clearly a violation of free speech and probably other constitutionally protected rights"

Corporations do not have "constitutionally protected rights".

Court cases have extended rights to corp but the Constitution doesn't protect them.

Corporations can't be offended so it must go to court.

This is controversial just how freedom of speech would come into play here.

Maybe Kimmel could sue?

-Maybe Kimmel could sue?

unless he's paid well and signs an NDA in exchange for the very large severance.

At least I didn't vote for Trump TWICE and Lie about it.

Fool me once Shame on You. Fool me Twice..Shame on Me.

Fool.

This is controversial just how freedom of speech would come into play here.

Maybe Kimmel could sue?

#317 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT

This stupidity is a symptom of why we're doomed

The federal government in the form of the fcc goes on a podcast and threatens abc over their license and an affiliate merger unless the do something about Kimmel over a joke Kimmel made that was objectively not offensive and within hours Kimmel is yanked from the air

But it is controversial how freedom of speech comes into play

The level of stupidity to reach that conclusion is simply awe inspiring

-Fool me once Shame on You. Fool me Twice..Shame on Me.

Oh, so it's not YOUR fault you voted for Trump the first time?

Who is the "You"? Who fooled you, Femininetrumpvoter?

"the fcc goes on a podcast and threatens abc over their license and an affiliate merger unless the do something about Kimmel"

And ABC is going to go along with it, clearly.......greed wins.

" What are your qualifications to decide if someone is a hypocrite?"

If someone claims to be a Christian, but has no problem bearing false witness, that's an obvious hypocrite.

If someone claims to be a Christian, but commits blasphemy by telling another poster you "won't be seeing them" in the afterlife, that's an obvious hypocrite.

And when they pretend to be a Christian, but support a candidate who breaks the majority of the Ten Commandments, and has the majority of the earmarks of the Anti-Christ ...

... obvious hypocrite.

Agreed?

#112 | Posted by Danforth

If someone claims to be a Christian, but is gay or Trans, that's an obvious hypocrite, the bible even tells them so.

Agreed?

The bible says something about trans people?

Ahh I temporarily forgot the creation myth

The bible says something about trans people?

nah, God can still see what he created you to be, even if you lop off body parts or wear a dress.

Truth,

"The bible says something about trans people?"

Deuteronomy 22:5

"A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."

Texas A&M President just resigned.

www.msn.com

The bible says something about trans people?

#324 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Not really. But Christians in general have issues with all forms of sex.

It's not natural to be different. I don't think Christians even believe we are a part of nature. They think we are here just to rule and dominate nature. So we should not be doing "natural" things.

But who really cares what the Bible has to say about it? Do we care what the Koran says about it?

Our laws and policies are not based on or derived from the Bible or the Koran nor should they be.

God can still see what he created you to be

Intersex people are born with sex characteristics (such as sexual anatomy, reproductive organs, hormonal patterns and/or chromosomal patterns) that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies. In addition to intersex people, there are those that have Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, adrenal hyperplasia, to name a few other "not so black and white" examples.

But like you said, god must've known what he was doing and what be was creating...

"A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."

#327 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Your god (who should know the future as well as the past) needs to be a little more specific.

Cross dressers are not the same as being a trans.

What's the difference you say?

About 2 years.

Also a cross dresser can't wait to get home and put on a bra.

A trans can't wait to get home and take it off.

It's fascinating watching people debate Christianity and quote the Bible as if they've been personally appointed by God to speak on His behalf.

What's often missing in those conversations is Christ Himself.

The Bible is not a replacement for God. It's a book. I've seen it used as a substitute for Jesus, almost like an idol. But the Bible doesn't offer salvation, redemption, or grace. That comes through faith and from the heart.

Christianity is bigger than a single verse. The real challenge is fitting scripture together into a living faith and not using isolated passages as weapons or a crutch.

Donner,

I'm afraid I can't speak from experience about wearing women's clothes.

Nor am I going to attempt to explain the Bible verse I quoted.

Get out of it what you will or choose to ignore it.

Can someone explain to the idiots the difference between trans and transvestite?

Btw the author of that deuteronmy verse definitely got crying games at some point in their life

How does that verse relate to gf "borrowing " their boyfriends hoody?

Donner,

"I don't think Christians even believe we are a part of nature."

Christians believe we were created in God's image.

However, does that mean physically or spiritually?

Genesis says that when Eve ate the fruit, "their eyes were opened" and they became aware. They became aware of their humanity, their nakedness, and of sin itself.

So my opinion is yes, humans are part of nature.

That being said, that's the reason so much of the Bible is teaching us how to behave appropriately and how to worship God with our whole being.

Get out of it what you will or choose to ignore it.
#333 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I can't ignore it when you keep shoving it in my face as though it was some kind of authority on the subject. When it is not.

But as far as the rule of law and our democratic institutions yes, we should absolutely be ignoring the Bible.

...

Christianity is bigger than a single verse. The real challenge is fitting scripture together into a living faith and not using isolated passages as weapons or a crutch.

#332 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

It's a flawed philosophy like so many others and has no special place with me. But it's not so much the philosophy that is the problem. It is those who misinterpreted it. Sometimes on purpose. With the intention to deceive or use to gain power over others.

So I place it where it belongs with all the other religions of the world. Religions who also struggle to speak about the same things. I am not comforted by it. But many of these other cultures have found better words. And I can speak to those religions and myths as well as I can speak about Christianity. Can you?

It just embarrasses me as a human that people are still so close minded that they need to believe in only one particular Myth above all others and still try to force that belief onto others who want nothing to do with it.

And finally. It is my belief that Christians who believe in these ancient ("Bronze Age") myths not as metaphors for things we cannot speak but as literal truth beyond questioning are a danger to us all.

Just as our Founding Fathers believed.

" so much of the Bible is teaching us how to behave appropriately"

Tell us again how mail-in ballots were stolen from tens of thousands of voters in 2020, and why no one has come forward confirming it.

Intersex people

0.0001% of humanity.

I'm talking about the other 99% of humans.

And even then, intersex people usually know what their sex is.

Donner,

"It's a flawed philosophy like so many others and has no special place with me."

Wouldn't your first sentence have been adequate?

Boaz,

Personally, I wonder when men who dress as women started believing they actually become a genuine female.

Throughout history those people have existed but did they or anyone else believe they actually transformed into a woman?

And everyone else is expected to pretend they do.

Dan,

Didn't you know?

I have the God given authority to update the 10 Commandments into the 11 Commandments.

Who are you to say I'm a liar or don't have that right?

#11 Thou shalt not use mail-in ballots for voting, lest the election be stolen by Democrats.

"Christians believe we were created in God's image."

Christians created a God in Man's image. Using Man's words.

God is thought. Created by Man.

So my opinion is yes, humans are part of nature.

Man is an animal with an animal nature but with a fully functional consciousness (well some humans have a fully developed consciousness). And so we can reflect on our own existence and behaviors. This does not separate us from the planet from which we have evolved.

And gay sex and even different sexual "expressions" exist in nature.

The animal kingdom exhibits phenomena like sex-changing (sequential hermaphroditism) and sex-expression differences, such as male birds with female plumage for survival, which are biological adaptations rather than conscious gender identities.

Animals like spotted hyenas display high testosterone, affecting their appearance and behavior, and while these biological traits differ from the typical binary, they are not considered analogous to human transgender identities but they are natural.

Regardless (all ethics and moral judgements aside) if man truly is a part of nature then anything man does is actually "natural".

Wouldn't your first sentence have been adequate?
#341 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I don't require ANY sentences to understand me or reality.

To explain reality to you requires volumes apparently.

Donner,

Are you saying anything that naturally exists should be accepted by society?

Or should we be running it by you first?

"Are you saying anything that naturally exists should be accepted by society?"

---- you are dense.

I am clearly saying that the Bible is not the authority on what is natural or not or what is an "abomination " in our society.

I am say we should not be running our laws or polices by the Bible or Christians for approval.

Donner,

I see I'm going to have to create number 12.

#12 Thou shalt not declare all things "natural" just because it feels good.

-I am say we should not be running our laws or polices by the Bible or Christians for approval.

I agree but everyone is allowed their bias on election day or when they write a check to a candidate or a PAC.

Christians (some....the evangelicals particularly) are a group of voters who are demanding to be pandered to.

So are folks of the Jewish faith, BTW.....and they ---- sure get listened to.

Imagine you're a candidate for state rep or the US House of Rep........and 75% of your district is Christian, many strong right leaning. Whoever represents this district is going to have to listen to these people if they intend on getting elected or re-elected. How do they avoid "running laws/policies by them for approval"?

Intersex people
0.0001% of humanity.
I'm talking about the other 99% of humans.
And even then, intersex people usually know what their sex is.

The range is, based on definition, .018%-1.7%.
You brought god into this to justify your bigotry.
Now you drop god right out and say your hate and bigotry is justified because there's so few intersex people. What do they matter? You then think you can speak for them. You.

How come these "0.0001%" matter so much your entire party that it spends ridiculous amounts of time making them out to be deadly enemies and perversions of nature? The very nature you just said your god created them in..

This according to CNN:

" According to one of the individuals familiar with the situation, Kimmel was prepared to deliver his monologue on his show Wednesday night and planned to address the right-wing backlash to his
remarks made earlier in the week regarding the politicalization of Kirk's
killing. This individual describes Kimmel's planned monologue as "very
hot," taking aim at the MAGA base"

So, while emotions were still high he makes a completely false statement that caused serious backlash to his employer. And he was planning on doubling/tripling down on it. My initial thought was the FCC pressure played a significant role in this. Now, I'd say Kimmel's own actions are primarily what did him in. He did this to himself.

How do they avoid "running laws/policies by them for approval"?
#349 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I am not a politician thank the gods. I'll leave that to them. It's always been a dilemma. If I was a politician I'd do much like my representative Jerad Hoffman currently does. Bother in one of those districts and declare myself a humanist and run on common sense issues and vote using logic and reason.

But fortunately I don't have to figure out dilemmas like that.

Personally I am still trying to figure out just how we can deal with Trumpy and the Liberals Conundrum when the Purge goes into full swing.

," taking aim at the MAGA base"
So, while emotions were still high he makes a completely false statement that caused serious backlash to his employer. And he was planning on doubling/tripling down on it. My initial thought was the FCC pressure played a significant role in this. Now, I'd say Kimmel's own actions are primarily what did him in. He did this to himself.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-19 12:59 PM | Reply

There's nothing Trump could that you won't excuse or vehemently defend is there??

Re 352

"Bother" should have been:

"don't run ... " "in one of those districts."

#353. What are you even talking about? How about you rebut what I posted?

So, while emotions were still high he makes a completely false statement that caused serious backlash to his employer.

Making "completely false statements" is not a crime. Trumpy does it several times an hour.

Where did the "backlash" to his employer come from?

...

He did this to himself.

Posted by BellRinger

The victim is responsible. Again.

Got it.

By this logic all the charges and "Lawfare" against Trumpy and his trials and tribulations were his own fault. He brought it upon himself by his own actions. Yes?

Not to mention people actually liked what Trump was saying. He said what they wanted to hear and is doing many things they wanted to see done.

I could care less about his personal life.

#285 | Posted by BillJohnson

Being a pedophile is "his personal life?"

If this is the rightwing response to Kirk's death, then I gotta say that Charlie Kirk was real and complete of ----. You hear that Trump? Kirk mush have been a complete contemptible piece of ---- and we should all celebrate his death. And yours as well when you finally kick the bucket!

MAGA can go **ck itself.

" Making "completely false statements" is not a crime"

He hasn't been charged with a crime. Given that, everything that followed is null

" If this is the rightwing response to Kirk's death"

Kimmel didn't get shot and killed. He is indefinitely suspended. Kimmel is the same guy who celebrated in a big way when Tucker Carlson got fired.

Your post is incoherent.

Did the US Senate just unanimously pass a resolution giving Charlie Kirk his own day?

Unanimously?

How many people here have openly called Kirk a POS?

Call your senator.

58 Democrats voted against honoring the racist pos.

www.foxnews.com

He hasn't been charged with a crime. Given that, everything that followed is null

#359 | Posted by BellRinger

He's being punished for mocking the dictator's cult by losing his income.

Honest question - Do you think the USA should become more like russia, or less like russia?

Kimmel is the same guy who celebrated in a big way when Tucker Carlson got fired.

Your post is incoherent.

#360 | Posted by BellRinger

Quote him "celebrating in a big way" or else you're a liar.

In the Ongoing Politics Makes Strange Bedfellows category:

"Ted Cruz compares FCC Chair Carr to Mafia boss in Jimmy Kimmel warnings

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas sharply criticized Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr for his comments related to late-night host Jimmy Kimmel shortly before ABC pulled his show off the air.

Cruz said he took issue with Carr threatening to cancel ABC's broadcast license over Kimmel's remarks about the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

"He says, We can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way,'" the senator said of Carr in the latest episode of his podcast, "Verdict with Ted Cruz," which aired Friday morning.

"And I gotta say, that's right out of Goodfellas,'" Cruz said, referring to the classic mob film.

"That's right out of a mafioso coming into a bar going, Nice bar you have here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it,'" he said."

www.cnbc.com

For when you are too Fascist for people like Ted Cruz and Billy F'n Krystol.

So, I don't read him, but tell me if Jbellicose is now right of Ted Cruz?

Speak,

"Quote him "celebrating in a big way" or else you're a liar."

I didn't watch all of it. You guys verify it.

www.hindustantimes.com

Carlson was fired by FOX. Kimmel was fired by the FCC on behalf of POTUS. These are not the same.

Tucker Carlson was fired because he spread lies about Dominion Voting Systems that ended up costing Fox News $787 million dollars.

Perhaps BullBringer can explain how that relates to Kimmel being let go.

I mean.

He won't.

He just lies and then moves on to his next lie.

Like all deplorable Trumping MAGAts.

Trump supporters are the most worthless people in America.

Speak,

I would call that a big way, wouldn't you?

Also, the video had a funny reference to Kimmel getting fired.

Talk about deja vu!

Speak,

I would call that a big way, wouldn't you?

Also, the video had a funny reference to Kimmel getting fired.

Talk about deja vu!

#370 | Posted by BillJohnson

No the quotes that I read were not a celebration. they were making fun of that face tucker always makes where it looks like he smells feces.

Speak,

There's a video. Kimmel was delighted on the video I saw.

Not that I give a hoot.

I see you called out Bellringer and I found something that backed him up.

Take it or leave it.

Kimmel was delighted on the video I saw.

Did Kimmel fire Carlson?

No?

Then shut up, you stupid piece of shht.

Stinky is following his hero's example.

Goebbels Ends Careers of Five 'Aryan' Actors Who Made Witticisms About the Nazi Regime

Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
Feb. 4, 1939,

crooksandliars.com

Who cares?

If Kimmel has an audience that wants to see him, and I suspect he does, he'll do just fine in the future.

"Who cares?"

All Americans shouldcare. But if you are not American I might understand. You don't have the constitutional protections of freedom of speech.

If Kimmel has an audience that wants to see him, and I suspect he does, he'll do just fine in the future.

#375 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

That in no way justifies what Trumpy is attempting to do.

Putin also went after the comedians first.

It's number one in the authoritarian playbook.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Government censorship through intimidation is expanding:

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1.bsky.social
New flag from FCC Chair Brendan Carr: "I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into 'The View' and some of those other programs."

Mrs. Betty Bowers
@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social
And *this* is why "The View" didn't mention Jimmy Kimmel being forced out in violation of the First Amendment, even though it was the biggest news of the day. The hosts' paychecks will always come before informing you.

bsky.app

Andor' Writer Dan Gilroy On Disney Suspending Jimmy Kimmel & Hollywood Facing "Venomous Evil": "This Isn't A Skirmish. It's A Siege" " Guest Column

As one of the writers on the Disney+ drama Andor, we spent six years thinking about a fascist takeover of a galaxy far, far away. Six years thinking about ordinary beings as an authoritarian regime comes in for the kill. Many people saw parallels between Andor and the real world. I see them as well, particularly in the events of the last week.

deadline.com

"You don't have the constitutional protections of freedom of speech."

The government didn't fire Kimmel. Disney did.

If the USG issued guidance prohibiting Kimmel from appearing in any form of media, I'd be in violent agreement. But that's not the case and likely never would be the case. That's not the case even in communist Russia.

The government didn't fire Kimmel. Disney did.

And Disney did it because their business interests were threatened by the government.

"That in no way justifies what Trumpy is attempting to do."

Trump can't do ----. There are in infinite number of mediums that Kimmel could and will use to reach an audience.

Circling back to Trump though...have you watched South Park recently? I mean, South Park mocks Trump and his tiny penis hugely. To the best of my knowledge, USG has not done anything to stem that extremely popular TV show. Maybe because the president likes the publicity?

"And Disney did it because their business interests were threatened by the government."

Disney has more than enough media options that the government can't threaten if they really thought retaining Kimmel was in their best interest.

Bob Iger once stated that he would have never greenlit the movie "The Interview" because it did not align with the Disney brand. Charlie Kirk was very popular with tens of millions of people. For me, he was the only person in politics that was interesting. You can't see how disparaging Kirk might turn viewers off the brand. There was no reason for Kimmel to say what he said. It was politically driven nonsense that had nothing to do with providing the entertainment that Disney is in the business of doing.

Disney has more than enough media options that the government can't threaten if they really thought retaining Kimmel was in their best interest.

What are you basing this on?

Trump controls the FCC.

For me, [Charlie Kirk] was the only person in politics that was interesting.

He was a hate monger. Makes sense you'd find him interesting.

You're late for your white supremacist meeting. Better run along.

If Kimmel has an audience that wants to see him, and I suspect he does, he'll do just fine in the future.
#375 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

He kinda doesn't (129,000 viewers in 18-49), in fact if all the people that are complaining actually watched him, he might. But they won't because obviously the non-stop political humourless show wasn't worth their time.

Really fell
thatparkplace.com

To put in perspective its half as many viewers in Demo as Colbert. Kimmel show was an anchor. It was so bad even DialAgain didn't watch-it.

"And Disney did it because their business interests were threatened by the government."
~ DialAgain

The first order of business for Disney is to make a profit. They weren't doing that with Kimmel or Colbert.

So any reason Kimmel gave them to dump Kimmel was good enough.

I don't understand why comedians can't read a room, isn't that their job? or have any business sense.

"What are you basing this on?"

The FCC doesn't control streaming services. There would be nothing to stop Disney from streaming his program. The FCC controls RF service transmissions...that's it. And I don't know how many people still rely on an antenna to receive TV programming.

"He was a hate monger. Makes sense you'd find him interesting."

Me and tens of millions of other people who enjoyed watching him embarrass extremists such as yourself.

One of my favorite clips I've seen was when Kirk was talking with an Econ major about economists. The only one the kid knew was Keynes.

He was a community college dropout, but knew more about economics than the kid who was majoring in it? Maybe he "woke" that kid up?

"You're late for your white supremacist meeting. Better run along."

I'm gonna miss it. I have a reactionary bourgeoise meeting tonight where I am the presenter.

Yikes. I shouldn't have said that. Am I going to get shot with a Bella Ciao bullet?

Me and tens of millions of other people who enjoyed watching [Kirk] embarrass extremists such as yourself.
One of my favorite clips I've seen was when Kirk was talking with an Econ major about economists. The only one the kid knew was Keynes.

You enjoyed watching his highly edited videos where he only showed the people he could successfully debate?

I enjoyed watching the videos where he got his lunch handed to him and he couldn't respond.

What a stupid fanboy you are.

McVeighbomber found Charlie's call to execute Biden interesting.

"I enjoyed watching the videos where he got his lunch handed to him and he couldn't respond."

I would enjoy those as well. Link?

There would be nothing to stop Disney from streaming his program.

Why would they do that?

Some of you don't know what you're talking about and it's blatantly obvious.

I don't think you're smart enough to know when someone is handed their lunch.

I don't understand why comedians can't read a room, isn't that their job? or have any business sense.
#385 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

The only room they need to read is the Oval Office.

We're living in a dictatorship.

I don't think you're smart enough to know when someone is handed their lunch.
#394 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

I know you're not smart.

You've got a posting history to back up my assertion.

"I know you're not smart."

Would you like to compare academic pedigree?

I didn't think so.

Would you like to compare dick size?

I didn't think so.

"First they came for the socialists.. but MB still thought the Nazis were the socialists."

Me and tens of millions of other people who enjoyed watching him embarrass extremists such as yourself.

How embarrassing that you'd admit to watching him and taking it seriously.

What's even more embarrassing is he doesn't seem to understand how editing works.

"Would you like to compare dick size?"

I'll take that as a no. Smart move.

Yea. Then you'd look stupid and get emasculated.

Back to digging the latrines. Stupid.

"First they came for the socialists.. but MB still thought the Nazis were the socialists."

Ask ya boi Clown.

I am a National Socialist.

"Yea. Then you'd look stupid and get emasculated."

Ready, Send it.

I am a National Socialist.

You?

You're cannon fodder.

Or were.

Now your just dependent on government paychecks.

#405

Posts like that make you look the clown... a case of looks not being deceiving.

Kirk was a hate monger; a thirty something who pretended debates with teens while spewing racist, bigoted white nationalist garbage in the name of the Lord.

Wouldn't want to be him right about now.

Kirk was a hate monger; a thirty something who pretended debates with teens while spewing racist, bigoted white nationalist garbage in the name of the Lord.

MadBomber has admitted this is why he watched Charlie Kirk.

For the edited clips of Kirk spewing anger and hate at teenagers.

doesn't seem to understand how editing works.

It sounds like Kirk was doing the same thing Jordan Klepper does for The Daily Show.

Klepper would go to MAGA rallies, find dumb, gullible people and set them up with loaded questions to make them look stupid.

If the do say stupid things, they get to be on TV. If the don't say stupid things, they don't get to be on TV.

Kimmel actually does the same thing when they "interview" tourists passing by outside his studio.

Kimmel will be back on in a week. No such thing as bad publicity.

Disney has lost $4 billion since letting Kimmel go.

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#26 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-09-17 09:25 PM
These late night shows are tanking in the ratings and it's no wonder why.
We need another Johnny Carson.

Actually, the reason you don't understand "why" is because you blinked and missed the rapidly changing "content creation and delivery" business landscape - "free TV" today is far from what it was when Johnny Carson was "on the air" competing only with a couple of similar OTA networks and a few "cable" news/entertainment channels, mostly CNN and MTV.

Today, number of digital CDNs ("Content Delivery/Distribution Network") is huge (YT / TikTok "channels" etc.) and content more fragmented than 3 or 4 OTA TV networks then, and people don't have to stay up late, especially in Western time zones, to watch "live" late-night network content.

So comparing today's "late night" ratings to old times or any other available content is nonsensical. If networks were really losing money on these shows, they wouldn't keep them on the air - the programmers and accountants there are not idiots and understand "ad and aux revenue" and change shows all the time - if they could make more net $$ doing that they would do it without "input" from Trump and FCC chair.

So maybe we should leave programming and accounting to the networks? We don't have to like or watch it. Or do you really want to be hypocritical and maintain that the reason Colbert and Kimmel are being "cancelled" is because they have "no talent" and their "low ratings," and Trump's clearly stated desires and threats had nothing to do with it?

Q: What were the ratings of the whatever show that replaced Kimmel's this week and how much money DIS made / lost with it?

Q: Do you really want your content choices decided by the Programmer-in-Chief? Be careful what you wish for.

FCC is not the only "weapon" Big Government has. Two largest Disney / ABC local stations owners, Nexstar (NSXT) and Tegna (TGNA), who suddenly refused to retransmit Kimmel show, have recently announced a merger, and are very dependent on FCC (e.g., ownership limits rules - www.lermansenter.com), FTC and DOJ antitrust approval:
"Nexstar to Buy Tegna for $3.5 Billion in Bet on FCC Reforms ... Nexstar-Tegna deal puts Trump move to eliminate broadcast ownership rules to the test - 2025-09-01

Very opportune moment for Trump to exact his revenge, no?

Disney also owns Hulu which is trying to acquire some of the "free / ad-supported / subscription" streaming services like Fubo and Philo, which also will need government approval. How do you think these would go if DIS doesn't indulge Dear Leader?

This is similar to Paramount (CBS) which received miraculously fast approval to merge with Larry Ellison son's company Skydance... just as soon as Sheri Redstone agreed to paying $16M+ to Trump to settle baseless lawsuit.

Q: Do you know of any "media company" that will chance not being subject to some government regulations or decisions affecting their business in next few years?

Using extortion and pretext of "Saint Charlie" Kirk's murder to muzzle "inconvenient" content used to be revolting, regardless of the party and grievances re "the other side."

Nothing like corruption AND an attack on free speech, rolled into one. Brought to us by "scum" who doesn't believe either exists.
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