Damning Yemen Group Chat

Tuesday, March 25, 2025

Stephen Collinson: It's one of the most shocking national security indiscretions in years.

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White House acknowledges several top Trump officials plotted Yemen strikes in unclassified group chat that included Atlantic editor.
The group chat appeared to involve key national security figures, including Vice President JD Vance and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, according to the Atlantic.[image or embed]
-- The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) March 24, 2025 at 3:39 PM

What you have to understand about Pete Hegseth copying and pasting war plans into Signal is that it almost certainly means he's got classified documents on his personal UNSECURE devices. Signal isn't on a secure device ... are our war plans on his personal devices? @jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social
-- Fred Wellman (@fpwellman.bsky.social) March 24, 2025 at 5:00 PM

Buttigieg: I know this in my experience, both in the cabinet and as an intelligence officer, you would have to go out of your way to take classified information and move it into an unclassified system[image or embed]
-- Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) March 24, 2025 at 9:28 PM

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It's hard to keep Putin in out top-secret meetings without sharing, accidentally, with our allies too!

#1 | Posted by danni at 2025-03-25 08:57 AM | Reply

I understand that Walz is designated the person to be scapegoated here.

But ALL of the participants knew that they should have been on a SCIF for their little-----------.

Our lives are in the hands of people a lot less competent than most of the people who post on this blog.

Donald Trump will get us into a war and then lose it for us.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 09:20 AM | Reply

Stinky Pete and his stupid pals probably thought it was coolio to text away to each other about this matter, almost like a bunch of 15-year olds who stole some beer and each drank one. I'll wager it nearly certain our Russian friends heard all about the plans, since all on that chat were targets of Russian signals intelligence. The Russkies were probably laughing about how easy it was to get sensitive intel from these American dopes who just about added Vlad the all-seeing to the chat room.

The saddest thing about this matter is that no heads will roll, and the cowardly lions in Congress will do nearly nothing to investigate this breach of national security...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-03-25 09:25 AM | Reply

Proving every day what an embarrassment this administration is. Hegseth trying to shift the blame to the journalist takes the cake. Of course Trump says he didn't know about it, but he didn't mind piling on against the publication that exposed the truth.

#4 | Posted by cbob at 2025-03-25 09:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's what happens when you appoint a drunk frat boy to be in charge of the defense of the nation.
I don't blame Hegseth. He was never qualified for the job anyway. I do blame Trump and all of the Senators who voted to confirm the clown.

#5 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-03-25 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gotta love the New York Times' treatment of this story: static01.nyt.com

Who needs fascist Fox News when there's the "liberal media"?

#6 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-03-25 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans, remember: You asked for this.

Given the choice between a dozen solid conservatives and one Clinton-supporting con artist and game-show host, you chose the con artist.

You chose him freely. Nobody made you do it.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I know this is way off base but I would definitely hit it with that CNN gal.......

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-25 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The whole thing makes you wonder if anybody in charge has ever read a book, or maybe even a cereal box.

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 09:57 AM | Reply

At your age it would be like shooting pool with a rope

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 09:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

WASHINGTON: Amid the outcry over the leaking of top-secret war plans, on Monday millions of Americans called for a breathalyzer to be attached to Pete Hegseth's phone.

In an emotional apology at the Pentagon, Hegseth said that someone in his position "should never drink and text, and so I am giving up texting."

According to national security experts, a journalist was given access to highly sensitive war plans that are normally available only to people using a public bathroom at Mar-a-Lago.

(The Borowitz Report)

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 10:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Go Houthis. Hit the Geniciders.

Giving away the war plans can only help Anwar Allah.

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-03-25 10:10 AM | Reply

ouch!

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-25 10:19 AM | Reply

No harm no foul.

~Blue-Itchy-Nuts

#14 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-25 10:29 AM | Reply

Clinton: Had classified information on a private server in her home that no one else could access.
Republicans: "Lock her up!"

Trump Team: Literally sent classified information through an unsecured commercial third party app and included a journalist on it.
Republicans: *crickets*

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-03-25 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And to think that they're going through all this just to enable a continuing genocide. No genocide, no Houthis targeting shipping, no bombing of Yemen, no need to discuss bombing plans in an unclassified manner. It's quite easy to figure out.

So again, it all comes back to Israel, America's bestest friend ever.

#16 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-03-25 10:51 AM | Reply

What you have to understand about Pete Hegseth copying and pasting war plans into Signal is that it almost certainly means he's got classified documents on his personal UNSECURE devices. Signal isn't on a secure device...are our war plans on his personal devices? @jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social

Put an unqualified confederacy of dunces in cabinet positions and this is what you get. WTG Trump.

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-03-25 11:01 AM | Reply

Government of Dunces

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-03-25 11:09 AM | Reply

Once again the boy who cried "Trump" has made nothing out of nothing. It's more likely it was a "water supply on Midway" to out another Republican for Harris working for the administration.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-25 11:12 AM | Reply

Pickled rapist Hegseth is almost as useless as visiturd.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 11:18 AM | Reply

The only water supply is the water Visitor carries like a loyal lackie for Trump!

#21 | Posted by danni at 2025-03-25 11:22 AM | Reply

Norice that Trumpworld reaction is *yawn*.
What would be the reaction if Obama or Biden administration had bungled this badly?
***
Oh silly me. That could have not happened, since the Biden and Obama administrations were mostly stocked with people who were qualified for their jobs.

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-03-25 11:23 AM | Reply

Somewhere in China and Russia:

"They made it so simple for us to gather top secret intelligence! Kim Jung Un was right. Trump is a dotard who hires fools."

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-03-25 11:25 AM | Reply

House Republican on war plans chat: There's no doubt that Russia and China saw this stuff'

thehill.com

It's a given that Team Dotard funnels this intel to America's adversaries.

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The only water supply is the water Visitor carries like a loyal lackie for Trump!

#21 | Posted by danni

Too much mercury in his water supply.

(Mercury is a heavy metal that can accumulate in the brain, causing neurological damage)

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-03-25 11:28 AM | Reply

Once again the boy who cried "Trump" has made nothing out of nothing

#19 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Really?

Then I guess that Trump won't have to PARDON Hegseth for a crime, as he is panning on doing?

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 11:32 AM | Reply

It's more likely it was a "water supply on Midway" to out another Republican for Harris working for the administration.

#19 | POSTED BY VISITOR

I love the way that you people make every single flaming stupid act by Trump and his people another example of N-dimensional chess.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 11:34 AM | Reply

Look, two chances out of three that Hegseth was drinking or drunk when he did this thing.

Also two out of three that one or more of the other chat mates were, too.

These people are such goofballs.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 11:37 AM | Reply

It's more likely it was a "water supply on Midway" to out another Republican for Harris working for the administration.

#19 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

lol you stupid f*^s still think they're playing 4D chess.

But guess what, idiot, if that was the plan you wouldn't include a f^*%ing reporter on the chat.

Idiot.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-25 11:39 AM | Reply

It's a given that Team Dotard funnels this intel to America's adversaries.

#24 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Ive assumed from the beginning that this was a ploy to claim plausible deniability.

"Oppps it was an "accident"" is harder to charge with espionage than stealing and passing directly to adversaries.

Make it public-ish in an absurd way.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-25 11:41 AM | Reply

What does Tulsi have to say?

bsky.app

#31 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 11:43 AM | Reply

Karoline Leavitt already said no war plans were discussed, so what are you all talking about?

#32 | Posted by eightfifteenpm at 2025-03-25 11:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

"Lock her up! Lock her up!"

"Tulsi Gabbard Clamps Down on Leaks to Media With Unhinged Threat"

www.yahoo.com

But now it happens and what is she doing about it? Nothing, that's what!

#33 | Posted by danni at 2025-03-25 11:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The "hearing" that's going on right now is cringeworthy because of Gabbard and Ratcliff squirming and twisting. Kelly's crushing them.

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 11:48 AM | Reply

"Karoline Leavitt already said no war plans were discussed"

Karoline Leavitt is the bastard daughter of Baghdad Bob and Sean Spicer. Word is, her godfather was Roy Cohn.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 11:50 AM | Reply

Witkoff was in Moscow during the group chat. *chef's kiss*

#36 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 11:52 AM | Reply

Maybe handing over national security to a bunch of treasonous ---- weasels was not a good idea after all. I am not even including Pete's BAC at the time.

#37 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-03-25 12:00 PM | Reply

Maybe handing over national security to a bunch of treasonous incompetent ---- weasels was not a good idea after all.

I had to insert that because I'm watching these bozos give (or not give or even open their mouths) responses to basic questions. They are failing.

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 12:03 PM | Reply

Sen. Kelly: "The deliberation as to whether or not we should launch a strike on another country, would you consider that classified information?"

Gabbard: *Refuses to answer*

How pathetic.

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Criminally negligent and incompetent morons doing criminally negligent and incompetent things.

According to their own maga moronic rules:

Lock them up!

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-25 12:16 PM | Reply

Meh, they didn't discuss anything more secret than the stuff in the boxes next to Dementia Donny's Mar a Lago toilet.

#41 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-03-25 12:20 PM | Reply

#40
You left out "Prolly drunk".

#42 | Posted by Wardog at 2025-03-25 12:20 PM | Reply

"House Republican on war plans chat: There's no doubt that Russia and China saw this stuff'"

That's what Republicans voted for.

When are Republicans going to understand that's what they voted for?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 12:24 PM | Reply

Hillary had classified info on an email server in her pants suit closet, but not a peep out of you liberals.

That being said, whoever leaked that info in that chat should be prosecuted.

#44 | Posted by boaz at 2025-03-25 12:28 PM | Reply

"That being said, whoever leaked that info in that chat should be prosecuted."

They won't be prosecuted, and you voted for Trumoers to never be held accountable.

Own it, cowboy.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 12:31 PM | Reply

whoever leaked that info in that chat should be prosecuted.

That would be everyone on the chat.

#46 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-25 12:33 PM | Reply

Boaz probably means, prosecute the reporter, let the Drunk SecDef and his unqualified minions skate.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 12:38 PM | Reply

"Hillary had classified info on an email server "

Which was bad back then.

Why is it okay now?

Of course, it's laughable: you never let go of it...until a Republican did worse. Then, you picked up your water pail, and started carrying.

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-03-25 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

prosecute the reporter

If the reporter was the one that set up the chat and invited himself, sure.

#49 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-03-25 12:40 PM | Reply

May I recommend one of these for the Trump water carriers

www.lehmans.com

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-03-25 12:42 PM | Reply

whoever leaked that info in that chat should be prosecuted.

#44 | POSTED BY BOAZ

That would be great.

Love to see that Hegseth fellow behind bars.

Maybe he could dry out.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 12:43 PM | Reply

It would be great if you actually took a stand here Boaz.

Because while you may not like what you fought for while you were in uniform,

Trump is going to tear it all down.

It's hard to imagine you want it all torn down, after spending 20 years carrying a gun to build it up.

But maybe you're just a ------- ------, I dunno.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 12:46 PM | Reply

BOAZ must have been exposed to too much mercury

(Mercury is a heavy metal that can accumulate in the brain, causing neurological damage)

#53 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-03-25 12:47 PM | Reply

OMG, this is big, even bigger than the missiles that Biden sent to Ukraine ending up in Mexico with the drug cartels.

#54 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-25 12:48 PM | Reply

But maybe you're just a ------- ------, I dunno.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't sell yourself short, you are an expert on being a ------- ------.

#55 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-03-25 12:50 PM | Reply

#54 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

It's pretty good evidence of what flaming idiots you people are, sure.

#56 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 12:50 PM | Reply

an expert on being a ------- ------.

#55 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Hegseth?

Tulsi Gabbard after today, sure.

#57 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 12:51 PM | Reply

OMG, this is big, even bigger than the missiles that Biden sent to Ukraine ending up in Mexico with the drug cartels.

#54 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Of course, this dumbf^*+ jamoke has to jump to the defense with "duhhhhhh bUt BiDeNz!!"

Idiot.

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2025-03-25 12:53 PM | Reply

Fishpud whiffs again.

apnews.com

#59 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 12:55 PM | Reply

The prediction from the beginning was that Trump would lead us into a military disaster.

We are starting to see the how and why of that disaster.

The only question left to answer is when.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-25 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fishpud whiffs again.

Total right-wing lie, again.

#61 | Posted by YAV at 2025-03-25 01:01 PM | Reply

OMG, this is big, even bigger than the missiles that Biden sent to Ukraine ending up in Mexico with the drug cartels.
#54 | Posted by fishpaw

That's right, little Fishpaw.
It's bigger than a thing that never happened.
You are so dumb, you don't even realize how dumb you are.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So Much Winning!

A Pentagon-wide email recently went out warning about Signal's vulnerability

A Pentagon-wide advisory went out one week ago warning against using the messaging app Signal, even for unclassified information.

"A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal messenger application," begins the department-wide email, dated March 18, obtained by NPR.

The memo continues, "Russian professional hacking groups are employing the 'linked devices' features to spy on encrypted conversations." It notes that Google has identified Russian hacking groups who are "targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest."
www.npr.org

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 01:18 PM | Reply

The orange pedo is making his superior a very happy man.

gdb.voanews.com

#64 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-25 01:46 PM | Reply

Don't worry, Fishy. The Durham Report will expose all of them!

#65 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 02:47 PM | Reply

Tympani!

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 02:48 PM | Reply

Clear the decks!

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 02:49 PM | Reply

Fire in the hole!

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 02:49 PM | Reply

69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 02:49 PM | Reply

"There is a dispute over whether the term war plans' is being exaggerated," [CNN's Scott] Jennings noted, undercutting the central premise of the Atlantic report.

This is a significant issue. Goldberg has a history of publishing bogus hit pieces against Donald Trump.

#70 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-03-25 03:00 PM | Reply

"There is a dispute over whether the term war plans' is being exaggerated"

Only by people who want to deny that war plans were shared.

www.theatlantic.com
The world found out shortly before 2 p.m. eastern time on March 15 that the United States was bombing Houthi targets across Yemen.

I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-25 03:12 PM | Reply

Why is it that when I was a lowly PFC, that happened to hold a top security clearance, I had a long list of things that I could 'not' do yet, these scumbags broke like 20 of those rules and can just blame it on the magazine editor they mistakenly sent it to? Heads should roll for this as it is boarding on treason giving away plans of an ongoing attack on another country.

#72 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-03-25 03:16 PM | Reply

"Go Houthis. Hit the Geniciders.

Giving away the war plans can only help Anwar Allah.

#12 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER"

I see EFFEORTTRAITOR is at it again with his sucking up to people that would skin him alive and marry off his six year old daughter to an old man with a long beard. How can you call yourself an American? That's right you only pretend to be one as you work for either the Iranians or Putler whom you go down on daily with the --------- you spew on here. You are no American to side with people that shoot projectiles at every single ship that comes near their coast as that would be supporting terrorism you clown.

#73 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-03-25 03:32 PM | Reply

"This is a significant issue. Goldberg has a history of publishing bogus hit pieces against Donald Trump.
#70 | POSTED BY VISITOR"

Really? That journalist was the only person that acted like a professional by not revealing all the details of the time of the attack, which units and which weapons were going to be used. Those facts were released by the administration morons is stunning detail. They do not even deny this fact but here you are lying for those that would never do you the favor.

#74 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-03-25 03:45 PM | Reply

Karoline Leavitt already said no war plans were discussed, so what are you all talking about?
#32 | Posted by eightfifteenpm

It can't be war plans if Congress hasn't declared war. Game, Set, Match, FTW! Take that --------! BOOYAH! Make America Russia Again!

#75 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-03-25 04:05 PM | Reply

The story is, of course, much worse if Goldberg is telling the truth (either he or Hegseth is lying; there's no middle ground). But even if that part of the story isn't true, there is hardly a more sensitive fact that we need to keep secret than that senior American policymakers are discussing a surprise military strike. You carefully guard that discussion, whether or not it includes coordinates, targets, methods, or strike times. This leaves me asking once again the Casey Stengel refrain: Can't anybody here play this game?

#76 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-25 04:14 PM | Reply