MAGAts: "He's obviously a Democrat!"

Suspect gets arrested: Not registered with a party and has never voted

Odd. None of the usual righty suspects on here...

Maybe because it turned out he wasn't a Democrat?

Of course they are, it couldn't possibly be toxic the university atmosphere.

#81 | Posted by oneironaut

Idiot.

He didn't go to the university or ANY university.

He went to a damn technical college with about 1,000 students.

Why do you even post?

What we now know about the shooter:

It appears he was a 4Chan Groyper possibly a Nick Fuentes follower.

He came from a wealthy conservative family.

The bullet casings are mainly 4Chan Groyper memes:
"Hey fascist! Catch!" with the arrow symbols is from a video game called Hell Divers, it calls in a huge bomb. Popular phrase with the Groyper group
"Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao" is from Hearts of Iron IV, a WWII strategy game, play as Hitler if you like. It's also often wrongly associated with Italian Anti-Fascists. Again popular with the Groyper group
"If you read this, you are gay LMAO" - not exactly something LGBTQ supporters say but again popular on 4Chan message boards
"Notices, bulges, OwO what's this?" - It's literally a 4Chan meme about investigating someone for being trans, popular in the Groyper community

He did wear a Trump costume on Halloween some time back.

He is NOT the same person who donated $200 to Trump's campaign.

TRN on the bullets is the name of the manufacturer. Kash Patel is an idiot.

The memes and Anti-Fascist stuff are directly from Nick Fuentes' groypers group. They are displayed constantly in their message boards INCLUDING calling Kirk a fascist.

Fuentes and his Groypers have repeatedly disrupted Kirk's events and called him fascist for not taking a hard enough stance on Immigration and for being Pro-Israel (Fuentes is a Holocaust denier and Groypers are insanely antisemitic). They believe Kirk is basically controlled opposition to the America First policy to steer people away from a true America First policy and that Kirk is undermining or watering down the policy.

Even the Reddit message boards and some top Republicans have gone from "The Leftists are violent and blood thirsty" to "...we should pray for this individual like Kirk would want us to."

It is highly unlikely this has anything to do with Epstein. These boards don't seem to care that much about it. ...in fact, quite the opposite since many hail from the Incel community...

I don't think all Universities fit the atmosphere described, however, my son is a Senior at Northwestern and absolutely describes it this way. So as with most things different schools different realities.

#113 | Posted by kwrx25

He didn't go to a university.

He went to a one building tech school with only 1,000 students.

So Nick Fuentes is ANTIFA ideology now? "I love Hitler" guy is anti-fascist? The fascist white nationalist is anti-fascist?
...

#112 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Nah. They are fascists too but don't see themselves as fascist because minorities, especially Jews, are considered subhuman in the group.

The cognitive dissonance is amazing I know.

I wasn't saying he did... a few posts above there was discussion about Universities atmosphere's in general. I wasn't claiming it has anything to do with this kid.

#116 | Posted by kwrx25

That's on me. Sorry.

Antifa video game engraving
Antifa theme song
oWo furry
internet troll
Sorry the goyper thing doesn't play. It's desperation attempting to not make it what it is. Unless you can prove that Charlie was cucking him, it's political terrorism executing a right wing activist.

#143 | Posted by sitzkrieg

None of that is ANTIFA. It's pure Groyper memes. Literally its straight from the Groyper pages of 4chan. They call Kirk a fascist constantly quoting Nick Fuentes.

Unless you want to tell us 4Chan is a lefty cult now? And that Nick Fuentes is ANTIFA?

Read #111

Just saw this little diddy,
" jimtreacher.substack.com
@jtLOL
Follow
Three months after @SenSchumer threatened Brett Kavanaugh -- "You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price! You won't know what hit you!" -- someone was arrested for plotting to kill Kavanaugh.
Don't know what made me think of that today."

#169 | Posted by BellRinger

No one claimed there weren't violent left wingers.

They claimed, with facts and hard data, that the violence tends to come from the right. And it's by a very very wide margin.

He appears to have been radicalized by the left. People who are considered "right wing" typically agree with Kirk's views on at least some, if not most, issues.

#150 | Posted by BellRinger

Really?

Nick Fuentes agrees with Kirk?

Is that why he called Kirk a fascist?

Is that why he said Kirk is selling out white America by supporting Israel?

Is that why his Groyper squad routinely disrupts Kirk's events?

Is that why he claimed Kirk is really controlled opposition to America First?

You'd sound a lot smarter if you said nothing.

Holier than thou is a phrase. It means you feel you are morally superior to everyone else.
#184 | Posted by BellRinger
I am objectively morally superior to you -------.
#186 | Posted by truthhurts

Jeff thought Kirk was a normal rightwinger because his Cousin listens to him.

You know, a normal rightwinger who said:
We should stone gay and trans people.
We need to lock up more minorities.
British colonialism was made the world decent.
The guy who assaulted Paul Pelosi should be bailed out of jail
Religious freedom should be terminated
Black politicians are stealing spots from white people
MLK Jr was an awful person
Minorities are systematically attempting to replace white people
WOmen's natural place is under their husband's control
George Floyd had it coming
The Civil Rights ac was a huge mistake
Muslims only come to America to destablize Western Civilization
Palestine doesn't exist and those who support it are like the KKK
School children being gun down is acceptable to protect the 2nd Amendment

Jeff probably believes most of these things and feels morally superior.

What box doesn't Kirk check to meet the purity test of Fuentes regarding White Nationalism?
not anti-semitic enough?
#198 | Posted by eberly

Pretty much

And not hard enough on immigration

" Nick Fuentes agrees with Kirk?"
Fuentes is a radical. And I said, "some, if not most". You make it sound like I said conservatives agree with Kirk 100% of the time.

#195 | Posted by BellRinger

It's a bit more that doesn't agree with Kirk 100%.

It's more akin to how ANTIFA views Trump.

Fuentes hated Kirk and saw him as an enemy that is actively fighting the America First movement. And he viewed Kirk as basically being foreign controlled or controlled by the Jewish community.

Why do you down play this?

I found a number of sources who accused him of saying something like that but couldn't find actual quotes. One source would copy/paste maybe a full sentence usually less and then fill in the blanks with no links to his quote in full context. That raises a big flag for me. The other sources on the first page and a half assigned positions without any actual quotes at all. One source said he referenced Leviticus 20:13 in the Old Testament. Now, if one were to read the actual text and only the text, I can see how it would apply to gay people (the text doesn't even imply trans). Anyone who spent some time studying religion understands that the reason the various Christian sects beyond the Bible itself exist is because the Bible is not a literal document. Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, etc are all religious institutions not just a book.
This is what AI says:
" Interpretations of the verse:
Timeless divine law: Some interpret the passage as establishing a universal and enduring moral standard from God.
Cultural/historical context: Others see it as a cultural artifact reflecting the specific societal norms of ancient Israel, suggesting that it may not be directly applicable today.
Reinterpretation: A third perspective suggests reinterpreting the passage within more inclusive theological frameworks."

#209 | Posted by BellRinger

Damn. How can you twist this much to defend Kirk? It's amazing.

It wasn't hard to find. Took less than a minute.

Other interpretations are pointless. We are talking about what KIRK said he believes and should happen.

You act like ALL people who support Trump agree 100% with what he says and does. It's in part because you live in a bubble and in part because out of ignorance you unwittingly engage in the very bigotry you claim to oppose. Some of Trump's biggest proponents have been skewering him over Epstein.

#222 | Posted by BellRinger

Until he told them to stop...and then it's "I don't care about Epstein" and "It's a hoax."

Exhibit #1: Charlie Kirk