"government support and subsidies helped jumpstart the industry"

Which is what I was referring to.

" structural cost advantages allow brands like BYD to price cars significantly lower than Western competitors"

Is the rest of the answer.

Yes. I failed to give a complete answer. And I'll even apologize for that if it makes you feel any better.

(Thanks SNOOFY for his input)

But are not the structural cost advantages (cost of batteries etc) the fault of the companies and our government not making adequate strategic decisions for the future of those companies??

Decisions which have now come back to bite them.

And who pays for that? The American Consumer.

Gratz America. You built that.

How many jobs are attached the failure of the domestic auto industry?

Same with any industry (banking in 2008) and the ripple effects of a failure.
#81 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Here a novel idea (that I don't expect you to agree with):

How about we "subsidize" the people who buy those cars and those houses.

Instead of the already wealthy CEOs who failed their companies?

You know the answer, and you know it's why the tariffs are bipartisan.

POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Because the Chinese subsidizes their industries.

And because we cannot negotiate with them for a reasonable compromise.

But a %100 tariff? Yeah. Thats just fear.

Americans have always been concerned about competing on an equal playing field.

But a %100 tariff? Thats not even pretending to compete.

Mission Accomplished!

"I'm projecting my own belief onto you?"

Congratulations! You do still have functioning neuron or two!

But actually you were projecting it into everyone.

I was just the one who caught it and pointed it out.

Then you failed your polisci classes.

#79 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Nope.

While it is not true socialism, it is "socialism for the rich".

I.E. "a bit socialist".

The state uses taxpayer money or central bank power to interfere in the market.

Private companies keep their profits during good times, but force the public to
absorb their losses during a crisis.

Aid goes to well-connected corporate elites rather than ordinary citizens.

Crony Capitalism

Or

"A bit socialist."

You can buy all the EVs you want, in the US, from non-American brands like Toyota, BMW, etc.

and you know that, but if there's daylight out, lets complain about stuff that doesn't exist.

#72 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

How long do you think we can protect our auto manufacturers from China and the world? They have already collapsed once. And we had to bail them out /subsidize them already. Are we to always subsidize them?

If all tariffs were removed (slowly if need be) to allow for a more fair market competition would not those (Toyota etc) prices come down too? Are auto industries always to be given some kind of guarantee by our government that they will always be supported and must always succeed? No matter how badly they perform in the market? That seems a bit socialistic to me.

But Oooh woe is me. And all my hateful lies!

You poor thing.....lie after lie.

#83 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Says the guy in denial of his own thoughts.

You gave it away. That's how YOU think. And so naturally you are projecting how YOU think onto others. It even has a name.

Mistaking how you think for how others think is the "false consensus effect".

It is a cognitive bias where people assume that their own beliefs, values, and habits are normal and shared by most other people.

Maybe YOU should seek help for that my friend.

And btw. I ignore most of your nonsense.

I only go in for the low hanging fruit.

I don't need you to agree with me about anything Beverly.

Now that we know how YOU think I do hope you can get someone to agree with you about something today so you can finally be happy.

It's not looking too look good for you so far.

World =would.

Thx Siri!

One of the few things that's bi-partisan, massive tariffs on Chinese EV.

Some Americans are apparently ok with paying exorbitant prices for EVs.

I bet if they were allowed to be sold here more could afford them. And American manufacturers world adjust to the market accordingly.

And that would be just awful.

For the fossil fuels industries.

How far up your colon did you have to reach for that one?

#62 | POSTED BY EBERLY

How far up there were you?

They value agreement. Not honesty. They're not the same thing.

#75 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Speaking for yourself of course. Because you cannot speak for others.

So now it makes some sense.

You are not even trying to be an honest broker but seeking only agreement.

Got it. Thanks for speaking your truth.