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#139 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-09-03 03:29 PM
This is a lie...
Only if you kept your eyes and ears closed or avoided news programs that were shown even in Santa Clara, San Francisco and Marin Counties at the time. You can check 2024 news archives... or you can believe whatever you want.
Talk about incompetence.
You're confirming exactly what I said.
Imagine being more incompetent than Trump, and yet still supporting Biden/Harris.
Or... keep watching utter incompetence, corruption and stupidity "at the highest level" doing possibly irreversible damage to the sections of country's economy, military, foreign relationships etc., bordering on treason... "yet still supporting Trump."
When people are faced with two bad choices (i.e., a question of "who is worse" not "who is better"), like we were "blessed" with in the last 3 elections, courtesy of having our choices decided by extremist idiots in the primaries they will usually choose one (not voting is also a "choice") - ... but given what we already knew about Trump, I would choose (not "support") simple "incompetence" (surrounded by reasonably competent professionals instead of "pretend-competent" TV personalities) every time.
This is false because CNN did a ride along with Obama's ICE deporting people right off the streets of Chicago. [ICE] agents go searching for undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes while in the U.S. illegally.
Again confirming exactly what I said - no drama ride-along targeting illegals with criminal records, instead of deliberate militarized "wide net" show of force roundups of "suspicious" brown people and people without criminal records who had been here legally and in process of extending legal temporary or establishing legal permanent resident status.
There was no quota, no "in your face" militarization of ICE, no drama...
You can't possibly not see the difference, especially being well aware of Trump's "China Initiative" that only benefits China (or other countries), not the USA.
#136 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-09-03 02:29 PM
... our economy is doing fine. Our economic troubles are tied to Trump's stupid tariffs and war with Iran.
Well, "talk about incompetence"... and "yet still supporting Trump".
You sound almost like a few people here (who no longer post - Hans, TonyRoma, etc.) before 2024 elections. They kept reciting official NUMB3RS about inflation, GDP, and worrying about unemployment rate few months into November... even though I kept trying to explain that these don't represent the "economy" that > 2/3rds of the people see and experience, and besides, there are ["culture war"] issues they simply refused to see or acknowledge as relevant.
Yet now you're trying to defend objectively worse economic conditions for even larger segment of people.
Trump admin and followers are in exactly the same kind of self-denial - liar Bessent is arguing what economy shape is K- or C-... as if anyone cares:
www.zerohedge.com - The Return Of Economic Gaslighting
|------- ... According to nearly all the big economic indicators and aggregates, the economy was doing quite well...
... the Republicans are faced with the exact same choice the Democrats had been faced with before 2024. And, notably, they have decided to adopt the same strategy that helped torpedo the Democrats last time around. ...
The figures and specific talking points may differ, but the formula remains the same.
This kind of cyclical economic gaslighting is infuriating. But it isn't surprising. ...
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@#1 ... Wise wrote. "In the United States, free speech, including the freedom to criticize the government and its leaders, is not a sign of our democracy's fragility. It is evidence of its strength. That strength is diminished when members of our society -- citizens and noncitizens alike -- must self-censor and behave' or suffer the government's retaliation." ...
Yup.