Here's what the Heritage Foundation Website demonstrates.

The plurality of vote fraud doesn't come from the voter: it comes from either Canvassers, Cullers, or Campaigns.

When it IS a voter casting a fraudulent vote, it's almost always ONE illegal vote.

The usual fraudulent vote is the garden-variety type: dead housemate with an absentee ballot; addled elderly moved and forgot; moved and purposely forgot; and if in-person...usually once by mail, once in-person. The rarest is in-person multiple votes at the same precinct.

The ROI for the fraud is ludicrously bad: up to $10,000 and a year in jail PER VOTE. And if you're in America illegally, deportation.

States average about 1 conviction per state per year.

Fraud at scale is self-defeating: the larger the conspiracy, the more impossible to keep secret.

Regarding Presidential elections, it's a foregone conclusion in roughly 80% of the states. A stolen vote in MA or WY would be like a fart in a very large windstorm.

When a reason why is given, the most common answer is, I was convinced the other side was doing it.

"I've never said or implied the word "ONLY"."

I've asked you repeatedly who does it more, and at what percentage more. You've NEVER quantified.

I've even allowed you to choose whatever cockamamie percentage one side does it compared to the other: 120%? 135%? 150%???

Until you quantify, the default is ONLY.

"Then your next paragraph isn't exactly what I've said."

It's exactly your theory.

It's the ONLY way your loser President doesn't lose the Presidency: tens of thousands of stolen votes, and every single victim chooses to remain silent, even after a close, emotional election, and even after January 6th. Every. Single. One. What are the odds?

No really....WHAT ARE THE ODDS???

Every time you get cornered by the math, you pretend it's really something else.

At this point, you can't even come to grips with your own home state's vote fraud records. Nor can you admit every plan of yours prevents more legal votes than prevents illegal ones.

"I said I am less concerned with mailed ballots than I have been but they should be requested so eligibility can be determined before it is mailed."

And I asked if your feelings should supersede the voters in, say, Alaska and Utah?

Because eligibility is already determined before mailed ballots are mailed. WHY ARE YOU PRETENDING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN?

Which Commandment addresses bearing false witness in your sect? I know it's #8 for Catholics.

"You mean requiring people to be eligible to vote to get a ballot?"

Election boards already ensure that happens.

As we've seen repeatedly of late, when folks who shouldn't be on voting rolls are on voting rolls...

a) it's usually a programming or data entry error, and NOT voter criminality.
b) they're usually unaware of being on voter rolls.
c) they rarely vote: Why? They know they shouldn't (plus that deportation thingy...).

"Where did you get the idea I vote by mail?"

It's obviously easy for you to vote.

How long were you in line last time around? My guess is it was about the same amount of time it'd take to fill out an absentee ballot.

And nowhere near, say, 4-6 hours.

"They can still vote from their sofa, but they'll have to at least put in the effort to request a ballot. The information on their request would be checked against their voter registration record, and their eligibility would be verified before the ballot is mailed. If they can't fulfil these basic requirements, they don't get to vote. Is that too much to ask?"

Depends. What if the majority of the voters in that state CHOOSE to have universal mailed ballots? Should you, as a resident of Virginia, be able to override citizens of other states on how to run their elections?

" ever since 2020, the argument seems to be that unless people automatically receive a mailed ballot, their vote is being suppressed."

That's a lie.

Since 2020, you've been pretending mailed ballots are usually purloined, tens of thousands of times at least, but ONLY by Democrats, and ONLY against Republicans, and all those Republican victims NEVER EVER came forward because...they were too patriotic.

If that seems idiotic, you're right.

Your answer, Bill, always, is to suppress more legal votes than you would thwart. Why do you NEVER ADDRESS THAT CENTRAL FLAW in your proposal(s)?

FFS, you can't even use your own home state as an example.

" if someone can't vote from their sofa, we're told they're being disenfranchised"

What excuse did you give last time, so you could vote by mail?

"Yet somehow, if someone can't vote from their sofa, we're told they're being disenfranchised."

If you don't understand ANY further parameters suppress LEGAL votes, you don't understand the concept of macro dials. Also, you're refusing to address the rarity of vote fraud, and the pretense the cases which exist would've been thwarted by stricter Voter ID controls.

You failed all three elementary tests. Sorry, but it's off to the little kids' table for you.

"They have the same right to vote as anyone else and must fulfil the same requirements as everyone else."

Not true. You want to add ADDITIONAL barriers to voting. And you want to pretend they won't be additional barriers to voting.

Can you name ONE SUGGESTION of yours that doesn't suppress more legal votes than thwarts illegal ones?

"Look up the meaning of disenfranchise. No one is denying anyone the right to vote."

Making it harder for the legal voter to cast her or his legal vote is, BY DEFINITION, voter suppression.

A well-placed construction site on the main thoroughfare to the sole remaining voting precinct will suppress more votes IN ONE CYCLE than your home state has had fraudulent votes since records have been kept.

"...the hammer brought down on inadequately verification of mail-in voting.."

Will there be LOTS OF claims, but NO actual examples, as usual?

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Which reminds me: we're almost to the six-year mark. Have ANY victims come forward complaining of purloined absentee ballots in the 2020 election? ANY???

Because if your theory was about anything larger than farting in a windstorm, there'd by hundreds, if not thousands of folks singing your song.

Instead...silence. NOBODY has come forward claiming a housemate stole their mail-in ballot.

Why is that???

"This is completely illogical."

...And I can't wait to enable MORE of this!!!

At least finish the thought honestly: if the election were held today, you'd vote IN FAVOR of Trump's enablers.