Wednesday, September 10, 2025

Charlie Kirk Felled by Assassin

Charlie Kirk, a close ally of President Trump and the founder of the nation's pre-eminent right-wing youth activist organization, was fatally shot on Wednesday while speaking at a campus event at Utah Valley University, his spokesman Andrew Kolvet said. Law enforcement officials are still looking for the shooter

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Charlie Kirk was shot at an event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah on Wednesday.

Bystanders report seeing Kirk shot near his neck during a Q&A with students.

www.deseret.com

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 02:44 PM

Thoughts And Prayers.
Nothing Can Be Done about the Video Games that caused this.
Because of the Second Amendment for Video Games.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 02:46 PM

"Stupid video games!'

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-10 02:49 PM

Looks bad

x.com

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 02:51 PM

A despicable nasty hatemonger received an involuntary injection of lead in the neck area.

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-10 02:58 PM

Does anyone have any thoughts and prayers I can borrow for Charlie?

I burned through all mine.

#6 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 02:59 PM

I just want to highlight the optics of having college dropout Charlie Kirk speak at a college.

Now, if he were a Bill Gates, who chose an emerging industry over college, that would be something else.

Charlie Kirk chose being an Influencer and a Community Organizer over finishing college.

He's a tool, a mouthpiece for Christian White Fascism. One of the many tells is he refers to liberal ideas like equal rights as "poisoning our youth with anti-American ideas" and his support for "America-first education."

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:02 PM

Well that settles it.

I'm a liberal but this kind of violence is outrageous.

I'm making a $100 donation to Hollow Point USA.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:03 PM

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-09-10 03:00 PM | Reply

Get bent you useless Trumper.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 03:04 PM

Lets get to the important questions.

Was the shooter trans?

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 03:04 PM

Well that settles it.
I'm a liberal but this kind of violence is outrageous.
I'm making a $100 donation to Hollow Point USA.

Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:03 PM | Reply

LMFAO That's hilarious.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 03:05 PM

Get over it.

~ Pedo 47 ~

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 03:08 PM

#7 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES AT 2025-09-10 03:00 PM | REPLY

Just soulless.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:09 PM

1 shot, 200 yards, what seems to be a definite hit to the neck. Somebody practiced for this one.

Is left wing terrorism as contagious as right wing terrorism? Probably.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 03:14 PM

This one's gnarly

x.com

Kirk is a husband and father.

#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 03:14 PM

#7 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

You don't need to play the "bargaining" game here.
You've always been in favor of camps.
Nothing changed because of the Second Amendment.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:15 PM

Kirk is a husband and father.
#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent

So is your mom.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:17 PM

"It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

~ Charlie Kirk ~

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 03:17 PM

"The shooting was quickly condemned by the California governor, Gavin Newsom, who said "the attack on Charlie Kirk" was "disgusting, vile, and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form."

www.theguardian.com

If this had been Rosie O'Donnell shot, the shooter would already have a Pardon.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:19 PM

Will ------- send the National Guard into Orem Utah?

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:19 PM

This one's gnarly

There is no way he survived that...

Great. The political violence portion of this nightmare will get its full kickoff for Charlie f*&^ing Kirk.

Here I figured it would be someone taking a shot at a NG member or an ICE agent during a raid...

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:20 PM

They have helmets and move around.

Charlie Kirk is a pro troll that sits in the open, surrounded by tall buildings. It's an easier shot than JFK in a car.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 03:22 PM

As said before, thoughts and prayers.

#24 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-09-10 03:22 PM

I will and would NEVER condone violence.

I will point out a certain immunity from consequences many fascists on the right think they can have.

This is just an example that fascists are as human as the rest of us.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:22 PM

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Chickens coming home to roost.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 03:22 PM

A suspect is in custody, according to a UVU alert sent to students.

Looked like a Boomer, aged white male balding..

#27 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 03:25 PM

America has several power centers-the White House, Congress Supreme Court, etc.

These people forget that there is another power in this country.

They act corruptly, immorally, with a self-perception of immunity.

They think they can exact unending pain upon the citizens.

They think they can impose fascism on us.

They think they can lie and disenfranchise the citizens.

Because they think they hold all of the power.

But there is another power that exists, actually multiple powers

And at the very basic is the violence of the individual who can change the course of history and enact radical change

They can inflict pain on those in power.

Those in power think they are immune from this.

They are not

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:26 PM

Some of you people are truly sick, sounding like he got what he deserved.

Very reminiscent of the health insurance CEO being gunned down.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 03:27 PM


Very reminiscent of the health insurance CEO being gunned down.
#29 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

This doesn't sound like that at all, other than they both used guns.

One is political, the other was personal.

#31 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 03:29 PM

This is just awful.

As someone who loathes Charlie Kirk ... this is not the way.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:29 PM

Close up vid is out. He's dead. There is no surviving that.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 03:30 PM

"I think it's worth it to have the cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have our 2nd Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty."

~Charlie Kirk, 2023.

#34 | Posted by bartimus at 2025-09-10 03:32 PM

So is your mom.

Well, she was a virtuous saint compared to you. She'd be concerned about the young wife and daughters. Charlie Kirk can say what he wants. He was just robbed of his liberty. As an American, that's sacrilegious.

#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 03:33 PM

Close up vid is out. He's dead. There is no surviving that.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Nope. Probably dead before his full muscle contracted body hit the floor.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:33 PM

This is just awful.
As someone who loathes Charlie Kirk ... this is not the way.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:29 PM | Reply

True that.

#37 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 03:34 PM

Charlie Kirk can say what he wants. He was just robbed of his liberty. As an American, that's sacrilegious.

#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent

I loathed Kirk but this is completely correct.

I'm genuinely afraid of what's behind the door that was just opened.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:35 PM

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights" - Charlie Kirk, 2023

www.mediamatters.org

Karma's a bitch as they say. That said, he didn't deserve to be shot. Sincere prayers for him & his family. This doesn't bode well for our country.

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:35 PM

I won't link the video, its traumatizing, but the bullet hit the carotid artery. Its unlikely he will survive.

#40 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 03:36 PM

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just STFU, you turnip-brained raetard. #28 tells us all we need to know about you.

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-10 03:36 PM

BTW this is CLEARLY god's retribution for Kirk supporting -------- 2020 election lie

Deuteronomy 17:8-12 instructs that difficult legal cases, too hard for local judges to resolve, should be brought to a higher court at the place the Lord will choose. There, they were to be decided by Levitical priests and the presiding judge, and their verdict was final and mandatory, with disobedience resulting in death.

In 2024, Kirk cited Leviticus 20:13 ("If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them") as "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters"

So, it is CLEAR that Kirk is an advocate for strict reading of the bible.

Since Kirk went against the courts over -------- 2020 election fraud claims, it is clear, BY HIS OWN BELIEFS, that he should be put to death.

I suppose god does work in mysterious ways, this time in the hands of an old man and a rifle.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:36 PM

Some of you people are truly sick, sounding like he got what he deserved.
Very reminiscent of the health insurance CEO being gunned down.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger

his own belief system says he should be put to death.

Who am I to disagree?

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:37 PM

So, a Tim Walz wannabe can't win a debate with Charlie so he takes his cowardly ass 200 yards away and kills him.

#44 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-10 03:37 PM

Ginning up political hatred and violence in this country is always going to have consequences, especially when it comes from the very top.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:37 PM

This is the path to Hell. Political violence hurts us all.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:37 PM

Karma's a bitch as they say.

No you say, you typed it, of all the things you could type, take responsibility for your words.

In your opinion, people deserve to die (karma) because they support their view of the constitution.

#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 03:38 PM

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:26 PM | Reply | Flag:
Just STFU, you turnip-brained raetard. #28 tells us all we need to know about you.

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds at

What exactly is wrong with what I posted, It is a simple fact that fascists like Kirk THINK they are immune from violence. They are not.

That is ONE reason why fascists should think twice about being fascists

I am not ADVOCATING for violence.

I condemn violence, always have always will.

I AM pointing out a simple fact

I get it, truth hurts

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:39 PM

So, a Tim Walz wannabe can't win a debate with Charlie so he takes his cowardly ass 200 yards away and kills him.

#44 | Posted by lfthndthrds

All I've seen is reports that he was captured. No info about who he is.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:40 PM

So, a Tim Walz wannabe can't win a debate with Charlie so he takes his cowardly ass 200 yards away and kills him.

#44 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yet, ------- can murder 11 Venezuelans against all recognized laws.

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:40 PM

David Hogg
@davidhogg111

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Horrifying news that Charlie Kirk has been shot. Gun violence and political violence have to ------- stop. Charlie, his family, and all the students who had to witness the shooting are in my thoughts.
We have disagreements, but we all agree something has to change.

#51 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:41 PM

Some of you people are truly sick, sounding like he got what he deserved.
#29 | Posted by BellRinger

What he deserved?
No. What he wanted.
He wanted this.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights" - Charlie Kirk, 2023

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:41 PM

In Charlie Kirk's opinion, (some other) people deserve to die (karma) because they support their view of the constitution.
#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 03:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

FTFY

#53 | Posted by bartimus at 2025-09-10 03:41 PM

I think we need more guns on campus to discourage these soft target attacks.

#55 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-09-10 03:41 PM

Corky is part of this?

Your obsession is showing.

#56 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:42 PM

This one's gnarly
#16 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT

Wow! That looks awful.

There's too much hate in America. This country is falling apart.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump use this as a reason to declare martial law.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 03:42 PM

"I am not ADVOCATING for violence."

Indeed.
That's what makes you different from Charlie Kirk.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

For decades, Republicans like Charlie Kirk have ensured that Americans have the right to own firearms and that we receive the finest healthcare with the most optimal medical outcomes, so I'm sure Charlie Kirk will be fine after this.

Sources:

www.sltrib.com

utahnewsdispatch.com

www.deseret.com

#59 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

Runt, is Kirk a crisis actor?

#60 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

#54

What I said is a well-established fact... what you said is moronic obfuscation as per usual.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

Karma's a bitch as they say. That said, he didn't deserve to be shot. Sincere prayers for him & his family. This doesn't bode well for our country.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:35 PM | Reply

He did hitch his wagon to the side that promoted violence as a solution. You're spot on about Karma is a bitty. I doubt it will reduce the violent rhetoric from the right wing side of politics. In fact it will probably exacerbate it.

#62 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

Charlie Kirk can say what he wants. He was just robbed of his liberty. As an American, that's sacrilegious.

#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent

NW

#63 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 03:43 PM

Yet, ------- can murder 11 Venezuelans against all recognized laws.

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

You really going to make that a comparison? You're a lunatic.

#64 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-10 03:44 PM

Edit #64

Not just a comparison, no no no A justification.

#65 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-10 03:45 PM

Shot came from a Campus Building 200 yards away, and Kirk traveled with prof security.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:45 PM

Listening to some guy on MSNBC talking about a recent firing of an FBI counterterrorism agent in the Salt Lake City field office because DEI bad, very bad (emphasis mine):

High-ranking FBI job losses disproportionately hurt women, people of color

Leaders are undertaking an unprecedented campaign to force senior officials off the job.

An unprecedented campaign by FBI leaders to force senior bureau officials out of their jobs has disproportionately hit women and people of color, according to public records and an unofficial tally by current and former FBI officials.

In the most recent example, FBI leaders last week forced the resignation of a decorated female Pakistani American counterterrorism agent who was appointed in February to run the Salt Lake City field office, one current and two former FBI officials tell MSNBC.

www.msnbc.com

#67 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:46 PM

Political shootings: "hold my beer school shootings"

#68 | Posted by 2020Rocks at 2025-09-10 03:46 PM

69!!!!!!!!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 03:47 PM

One is political, the other was personal.
#31 | POSTED BY ONESHEEP

What makes you think this isn't personal?

If anything. This was extremely personal.

This wasn't just a random spray of bullets in a crowd.

It was an assassination.

For the shooter, it was everything.

Charlie Kirk spent his life spreading hate, looks like one person had enough of it.

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 03:48 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump use this as a reason to declare martial law.

#57 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Donald Trump, the man who recently blew eleven unidentified civilians to hell for reasons, bemoans the shooting of Kirk.

Yes, he'd be more than glad to declares martial law and kill a lot more people.

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 03:48 PM

He was just robbed of his liberty.
#35 | Posted by lee_the_agent

By an American, exercising their the Second Amendment Liberty.
You wouldn't have it any other way.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:50 PM

Unbelievable:

Wow, eyewitness said Kirk had just be asked a question about mass shootings and 60 to 90 seconds later he was shot.

per MSNBC interview

#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:50 PM

Say crazy ----, and allow crazy people access to guns this is what you get, and really, suprisingly it's not even more common.

Where the hell are we headed now?

Hope he's going to be ok.

#74 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 03:50 PM

ALEXANDRITE is right. This is the road to Hell.

No matter how ironical this shooting is, that good 2nd Amendment bargain as Kirk put it, the man didn't deserve this.

#75 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 03:51 PM

#69

Yur incorrigible!

I s'pose it's way too soon to note that these Epstein File Distractions are getting out of hand.

#76 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:51 PM

Some of you people are truly sick, sounding like he got what he deserved.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger

It's just another school shooting.

Hell, there is another school shooting today besides this one.

Since when have you or the GOP cared about school shootings?

#77 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 03:51 PM

Yet, ------- can murder 11 Venezuelans against all recognized laws.
#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:
You really going to make that a comparison? You're a lunatic.

#64 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You simply don't understand what is happening.

The POTUS is acting lawlessly and violently.

He is murdering people, against all laws

He is grabbing people off the streets and rendering them to concentration camps or to war zones

He is assaulting America's freedoms in a thousand ways.

There WILL be blowback. You can only push people so far before they push back.

People have power. This shooter had power and used it. It is the foundation of the right's wrong thinking about the 2nd Amendment, that each individual American has the right to thwart tyranny with violence.

I am decidedly not advocating for such violence, I am saying it is an inevitable reaction to the implementation of fascism.

You strip people of power and dignity and you give them no choice, they WILL react violently.

------- is quickly pushing the American people into this choice.

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:51 PM

Hope he's going to be ok.
#74 | Posted by brass30

That would be a miracle judging from the amount of blood pouring out of his neck.

#79 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:52 PM

Update: He is in critical condition and it does not look good.

The shooter apparently is an old guy. There is video of him being taken away.

#80 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 03:52 PM

There's another video. He dead.

#81 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 03:52 PM

blaming Trump.
#54 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Trump has spent 10 years in the political Spotlight spreading hate.

Trump isn't personally responsible for the actions of the shooter.

But he is responsible for helping increase division and hate in America.

Mostly because it's been beneficial for him to do so.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 03:52 PM

Sad - read how the Democrats and radical leftists have always believed they have an unfettered right to control society and assassinate and control politics and take out any political opposition. How many times have we seen it happen at institutions and to others such as Trump. This is a bad omen to those in society who have come to believe they have this unfettered right of power like the riots of 2020 and shooting the CEO health insurance and allowing criminal trash to run rampant and harm others. The stupid political hyper leftists radicals of society have been doing it globally since Lincoln assassination. Even Sen Fetterman has had enough of the wild eyed Democrats and their hate of others. Democrats have lost their way. No one will in our lifetime ever accept their philosophy.

#83 | Posted by Robson at 2025-09-10 03:53 PM

By an American, exercising their the Second Amendment Liberty.
You wouldn't have it any other way.

#72 | Posted by snoofy

Maybe you can point me to the section that gives one a right to homicide?

#84 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:53 PM

Kirk had just be asked a question about mass shootings and 60 to 90 seconds later he was shot.

#73 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I wonder if the shooting was not premeditated.

Maybe Kirk triggered, no pun intended, a survivor?

#85 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 03:53 PM

"the man didn't deserve this."God will be the judge and he works in mysterious ways so this is likely part of the plan, heathen.

#86 | Posted by Scotty at 2025-09-10 03:54 PM

Wow, eyewitness said Kirk had just be asked a question about mass shootings and 60 to 90 seconds later he was shot.
per MSNBC interview
#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Did they follow up with a question about a single target shooting?

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:54 PM

By an American, exercising their the Second Amendment Liberty.
You wouldn't have it any other way.
#72 | Posted by snoofy

Maybe you can point me to the section that gives one a right to homicide?
#84 | Posted by jpw

Read Kirk's comment on how the Second Amendment is worth a few homicides.
Charlie Kirk is smarter than you on guns. That should make you feel stupid.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:55 PM

That would be a miracle judging from the amount of blood pouring out of his neck.
#79 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Miracles do happen:

Conservative activist Charlie Kirk in critical condition after being shot at Utah college event

www.msnbc.com

#89 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:55 PM

Sic Semper Tyrannis someone said once

People forget that this is an actual state motto

Live Free or Die is another one.

Kirk is a living embodiment of this sentiment.

For the record I do not nor will I ever advocate for violence

I am putting information out there.

#90 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:55 PM

This is bad. I can't stand Charlie Kirk, but I condemn political violence in any form.

#91 | Posted by cbob at 2025-09-10 03:56 PM

#83 | Posted by Robson

And here comes a stupid piece of s*&^ like Robson to insert his lunacy and act like this is a sanctioned action that is in any way normal.

GFY s(*&bag, along with anyone else on the flip side of this who are celebrating it.

#92 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:56 PM

83 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Go to hell, ROBSON.

I have to put up with the open-carry maniacs when I go out to eat dinner and wonder at each passing minute what sort of seething demons roil in their minds that might make them turn and shoot me and my wife.

What happened to Kirk underscores all the nasty contradictions of the MAGA gun fetish.

This is the world you people have created.

#93 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 03:56 PM

I wonder if the shooting was not premeditated.
Maybe Kirk triggered, no pun intended, a survivor?
#85 | Posted by Zed

That's what I wonder too, especially if the shot came right after someone asked him mass shootings.

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

Props to the lefties on this thread who are commenting with decency.

#95 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

In the rwing news version, he was just ax'd a question about, 'trans shooters'.

There's also a shooting in a High School in Colorado, at least two students shot outside of Denver.

#96 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

Shame Zatoichi isn't here for this. I think he would have really liked it.

Happy Extinction!

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

#88 | Posted by snoofy

I don't give a s(*& what Kirk said about guns.

The only stupid person here is you using this to get your bulls*&^ ignorant rants up and running again by using the words of a demogogue.

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

By an American, exercising their the Second Amendment Liberty.
You wouldn't have it any other way.

#72 | Posted by snoofy
Maybe you can point me to the section that gives one a right to homicide?

#84 | Posted by jpw

Look no further than Virginia's motto.

Is there any doubt that ------- is well on his way to being a tryant?

Would that not make his sycophants little tyrants?

Just asking questions

#99 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

RFK Jr: "The old guy probably has an Instagram account and played a ton of Minecraft. That's the cause of all shootings!"

#100 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

The left is the party of murder, and snoofy makes tranny jokes while larry m is sitting right there.
so easy, so tedious.

#101 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-10 03:57 PM

Thoughts and Prayers

#102 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 03:58 PM

"I'm horrified to hear that Charlie Kirk was shot at an event in Utah. Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence. Mark and I are praying for Charlie's recovery." -- Gabi Giffords

#103 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 03:58 PM

Any idea who the shooter is? I saw one video of an old white guy that some claimed was the shooter, but no verification on that.

#104 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 03:59 PM

#101 | Posted by easy_meat

The left isn't even close to matching the level of violence perpetrated by the right.. ..yet.

#105 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 04:00 PM

"The left is the party of murder"

How much murder?
Because your boy Charlie was adamant that "some gun deaths every single year" is what we need in this country.
And see, that's more murder than we want. Being a Democrat, I like to do No Murders On A Leap Year. Just for diversity.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 04:01 PM

He hasn't actually been murdered yet. It's still Attempted.

#107 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 04:01 PM

"Critical Condition"

#108 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 04:01 PM

I seriously hope this doesn't open a big can of worms. The guy had a big following.

#109 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:01 PM

"Gabi Giffords"

Hands still covered in blood from Trump's decapitated head... [...]

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 04:03 PM

"The left is the party of murder"

Most domestic terrorism shootings are rwing white nationalists:

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According to extensive data from multiple sources, far-right and white supremacist extremism consistently accounts for a majority of domestic terrorist incidents and related fatalities in the United States. White supremacists have been responsible for more extremist-related murders than any other category in most years.

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#111 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:04 PM

That's Kathy Giffords.

#112 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 04:05 PM

Jeff Sharlet
@jeffsharlet.bsky.social

If I have any credibility with you from 20 years of reporting on rightwing & fascist movements, please listen when I beg you not to celebrate Charlie Kirk getting shot. Leave aside morality: this isn't a match in dry grass, it's a torch. We do not want what this could ignite & we would not win.

I've been writing about what I call "slow civil war" for some years now. This won't tip us into the fast kind but it could bring us much closer. & friends, nobody would win that war. Nobody.

This is not some kumbaya "go high" ----. It's me telling you when I've had a gun pointed at me"literally, not figuratively"it wasn't the time to posture. Fascism's guns are at the ready. Think before you spout off. Winning the struggle against fascism is what matters.

#113 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:05 PM

I seriously hope this doesn't open a big can of worms. The guy had a big following.

#109 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

5.2 million just on Twitter.

#114 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-10 04:05 PM

Hands still covered in blood from Trump's decapitated head...

You're thinking of Kathy Griffin.

#115 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:05 PM

Question before Kirk was shot was about mass trans shooters, according to reporter who was there and is being interviewed on MSNBC right now.

#116 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:06 PM

Gabi Giffords was shot in the head with a pistol during an assassination attempt on her, but survived.

Kathy Giffords held up Trump's severed head.

#117 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 04:06 PM

That's Kathy Giffords.
#112 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Oh, you're right!
Imagine being less famous that Kathy Giffords.
Then again, all Gabi did was be one of the people Charlie Kirk says it's worth to get shot so we can have guns.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 04:06 PM

Griffin lol. jfc.

#119 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 04:06 PM

I seriously hope this doesn't open a big can of worms. The guy had a big following.

Seems we are unavoidably headed there, particulary in the next three years.

Social media and Trump, it's the perfect storm. There's little to no resistance to what happens and crazy/unstable people - regardless of which side they're on or whatever - are going to just lose it.

#121 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:08 PM

Oh f--k, one of Kirk's kids was at the event with him, but reporter doesn't think he was on stage when the shooting happen. I really do pray his child didn't witness the shooting.

#122 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:10 PM

They're not even sure that the guy arrested was the shooter...

#123 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:10 PM

I seriously hope this doesn't open a big can of worms.
#109 | Posted by BellRinger

There's a fair chance that's exactly what someone had in mind.

#124 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 04:11 PM

I'm horrified to hear that Charlie Kirk was shot at an event in Utah. Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence. Mark and I are praying for Charlie's recovery." -- Gabi Giffords

Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 03:58 PM | Reply

WTH?? Our country was founded upon political violence. From our inception our violence is what freed us to the violence of characters such as Aaron Burr to the killings Lincoln,McKinley to the assassination attempt of Teddy Roosevelt to Kennedy and Reagan. We've always had political violence. It's our bread and butter sadly.

#125 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 04:11 PM

Nobody deserves to be targeted by political violence. As happened several times in the 1960s, assassinations cause terrible damage to the psyche of this country.

This is true today and was true when prominent people on the right made a joke out of the savage attack on Paul Pelosi, including one who called on a "midterm hero" to bail out the attacker.

#126 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:12 PM

Trump will make a big to-do about this, no doubt. Republican politicians already blaming Democrats' rhetoric. Hello? Everyone needs to look in the mirror. Everyone from Trump on down.

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:12 PM

One might note that there was barely even a blink or nod, especially from this WH, when the two Dem elected Reps were shot to death in Michigan.

But this time it's a disaster of major proportions.

#128 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:15 PM

#125 | Posted by LauraMohr

An insanely ignorant view of American history, but OK...

#129 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:15 PM

They're not even sure that the guy arrested was the shooter...

The guy being shown under arrest kept mumbling "I have the right to remain silent" over and over.

He wasn't in a building, though. Video of Kirk throwing hats to the crowd before he sat down shows a two- or three-story building to his right close to his location and dangerous from a security perspective.

#130 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:15 PM

Dem elected Reps were shot to death in Michigan.

Minnesota.

And that's perfectly in line with their faux victim complex, "never let a crisis go to waste" mentality.

#131 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:16 PM

One might note that there was barely even a blink or nod, especially from this WH, when the two Dem elected Reps were shot to death in Michigan.

I think I'm pretty news savy, did I miss this?

#132 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:17 PM

Remember when a few politicians were killed in Minnesota and Republicans couldn't care less.

Yet, looking at this thread, Democrats (for the most part) have put politics aside to acknowledge the tragedy of the situation.

Trump is really gonna stir up some hate and violence in response to this.

Things would've been way worse had this happen in a blue city or a blue state.

#133 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 04:17 PM

Just the News, a far-right media outlet founded by John Solomon, claims he has died.

justthenews.com

#134 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:18 PM

As for the fan of worms I mentioned we don't even have a motive at this point.

#135 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:18 PM

oh yes - Minnesota. State reps.

And good point, did the WH even chime in?

#136 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:18 PM

when the two Dem elected Reps were shot to death in Minnesota.

Slight correction.

#138 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 04:18 PM

- As happened several times in the 1960s, assassinations cause terrible damage to the psyche of this country.

When I was in elementary school, I watched JFK murdered a few miles from my house. Then a few years later it was MLK and RFK murdered in the streets.

And you're right, it was traumatizing each time, for individuals and the nation.

#139 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:19 PM

"And you're right, it was traumatizing each time, for individuals and the nation."

Okay, Boomer.

We're desensitized to that now.
I refer you to Charlie Kirk's own words on the subject.

#140 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 04:20 PM

As for the fan of worms I mentioned we don't even have a motive at this point.

#135 | Posted by BellRinger

Doesn't matter. Unless this was highly personal (ie Kirk was abusing the guy's daughter or something...), motive won't mean a damn thing.

I'm sure there are more than a few out there who were just looking for the excuse after Trump was shot at.

#141 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:20 PM

Nice knowin ya Snoof.

#142 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 04:21 PM

Suspect NOT in custody... CNN. The mid-aged man not the shooter.

#143 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:21 PM

Epstein File Distractions

They're all in cahoots!

#144 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 04:21 PM

- Okay, Boomer.
We're desensitized to that now.

Obviously one of us is...

SUSPECT still at large, btw.

#145 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:23 PM

Okay, Boomer.
We're desensitized to that now.
I refer you to Charlie Kirk's own words on the subject.

Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-10 04:20 PM | Reply

Don't forget that Charlie Kirk parading around Kyle Rittenhouse as a conservative celebrity. He lionized him as well. Just sayin

#146 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 04:23 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if he died.

But I would also be cautious believing an outlet that wrote this with a straight face...

Video footage showed Kirk speaking under a tent to a large crowd outdoors before being blown out off his stool.

#147 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:23 PM

"The mid-aged man not the shooter."

Let me guess ... he spoke Spanish?

#148 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-10 04:23 PM

"The police have determined that a person who was taken into custody after the shooting was not actually the shooter, according to Scott Trotter, a university spokesman. The university had earlier said a suspect was in custody."

www.nytimes.com

#149 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:32 PM

Is left wing terrorism as contagious as right wing terrorism? Probably.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg

But this guy will be prosecuted instead of pardoned like the jan 6 terrorists.

Laws are for liberals not fascists.

#150 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 04:32 PM

YUP HE DEAD

#151 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 04:34 PM

I refer you to Charlie Kirk's own words on the subject

You blame Charlie Kirk for getting shot?

Just a general reminder, it is illegal to shoot unarmed people. Murder is also illegal.

#152 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 04:34 PM

Kirk: "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

If he dies, he'll die exactly what he believed in (I assume).

#153 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:34 PM

I think it's notable that Kirk was spewing hatred towards trans people as the shooting happened.

#154 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 04:34 PM

As for the fan of worms I mentioned we don't even have a motive at this point.

#135 | Posted by BellRinger

I mean anyone black, gay, or anti christofascist has motive.

#156 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 04:35 PM

#155 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Trump's cult acting offended by inappropriate speech is my favorite thing.

#157 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 04:36 PM

think it's notable that Kirk was spewing hatred towards trans people as the shooting happened.

#154 | Posted by Whatsleft a

you're a gd liar like all the rest.

I follow him and he has never even hinted at this
BS lie from you worthless effing liars.

#158 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-09-10 04:36 PM

BS lie from you worthless effing liars.

#158 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Who won the 2020 election?

#159 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 04:40 PM

think it's notable that Kirk was spewing hatred towards trans people as the shooting happened.
#154 | Posted by Whatsleft a
you're a gd liar like all the rest.
I follow him and he has never even hinted at this
BS lie from you worthless effing liars.
#158 | Posted by shrimptacodan

That's because you think Trans people are evil and dangerous.

So anything bad said about them, including they should be killed, isn't hatred.

#161 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 04:41 PM

You blame Charlie Kirk for getting shot?
Just a general reminder, it is illegal to shoot unarmed people. Murder is also illegal.

#152 | Posted by lee_the_agent

I mean... MAGAts blame rape victims for being raped... so...

#163 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 04:42 PM

Look out righty tighties... kitt-eh's got clawz...

#165 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-10 04:42 PM

Shots and slayers.

Just another day in America, sadly.

#166 | Posted by anton at 2025-09-10 04:43 PM

" I mean anyone black, gay, or anti christofascist has motive.

#156 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2025-09-10 04:35 PM | FLAG: "

Of course the shooter had a motive. We just don't know what it is yet. Most people assume it was over political differences. We need to be careful about jumping to conclusions. Gifford's ahooter was political. He was a crazed, obsessed stalker.

#167 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:44 PM

He's dead.

#168 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 04:44 PM

Trump tweet confirming he's dead.

#169 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:44 PM

Video footage showed Kirk speaking under a tent to a large crowd outdoors before being blown out off his stool.

#147 | Posted by jpw

More like he had the stool blown out of him.

#170 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 04:45 PM

Giffords shooter wasn't political.

#171 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:45 PM

Trump just posted that Kirk has died.

#172 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:45 PM

Videos circulating on social media showed an attender asking Kirk: "Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?" In response, Kirk says: "Too many," as the crowd clapped.

In a follow-up question, the attender asks: "Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?" Kirk replies: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" Seconds later, Kirk could be seen struck in the neck as he falls back in his chair.

www.theguardian.com

#173 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:45 PM

ust a general reminder, it is illegal to shoot unarmed people. Murder is also illegal.
#152 | Posted by lee_the_agent

Tell that to -------

#174 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 04:45 PM

Of course the shooter had a motive. We just don't know what it is yet. Most people assume it was over political differences. We need to be careful about jumping to conclusions. Gifford's ahooter was political. He was a crazed, obsessed stalker.
#167 | Posted by BellRinger

True.

#175 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:46 PM

"STAGED!!!"

-Half of the fuqwits on this site

#176 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 04:47 PM

"The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!"

-Trump

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115181934991844419

#177 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-10 04:48 PM

If the Shooter gets away, this may be be one of Kash Patel or Pete Hegseth's buddies; a Pro who's providing a Distraction.... and a Martyr for the Cause who was close to the Trump family.
(I can do Conspiracy Theories, too!)

There's neighborhood lockdown as they search for a suspect.

#178 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:48 PM

Gifford's shooting wasn't political?

Huh?

#179 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 04:48 PM

"STAGED!!!"

-Half of the fuqwits on this site

#176 | Posted by eberly

Actually this illustrates what a NON staged shooting looks like. If it was staged they'd have made sure to move photographers into position first.

#180 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 04:49 PM

"STAGED!!!"
-Half of the fuqwits on this site

#176 | Posted by eberly

Kirk actually had a wound and about a liter of blood gush out of his neck before he fell off the stool.

Try again.

#181 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:49 PM

Giffords shooter wasn't political.

Being an anti-government conspiracist is political.

#182 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 04:50 PM

180

This guy's not running for president.

The only difference is a fraction of an inch where the bullet hit.

It's actually illustrates how absurd the notion that the attempt on Trump was not staged.

but you're too ------ deranged to realize it.

#183 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 04:51 PM

do we have the shooter?

#184 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 04:52 PM

The only difference is a fraction of an inch where the bullet hit.

You don't actually know what happened, do you?

#185 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 04:52 PM

#177. That sure doesn't sound like stirring up hatred.

#186 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 04:52 PM

Is MAGA going to lose their ---- instead of trying any rational thought?

I'm thinking some of them will.

#187 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 04:53 PM

Was the shooter trans?

We've got to do something about all of this crime! Where is the National Guard?

#188 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2025-09-10 04:53 PM

Giffords shooter wasn't political.
Being an anti-government conspiracist is political.
#182 | Posted by rcade

I stand corrected for agreeing with BR on that point.

#189 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:54 PM

-You don't actually know what happened, do you?

the shooting or the hysterical aftermath from folks who insist it was staged?

the only proof of course was that "well, trump would pull something like this"

#190 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 04:54 PM

There's neighborhood lockdown as they search for a suspect.

#178 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag:PPPFFFTTTT

Start at the Osmonds... work your way west to the Romney's Estate... there are so dang many gun totin' republicl0wns in Utah to choose from... might take a bit.

#191 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-09-10 04:55 PM

#177. That sure doesn't sound like stirring up hatred.
#186 | Posted by BellRinger

Give him time. If I'm wrong and Trump never politicizes the shooting, I'll be gratefully surprised.

#192 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 04:57 PM

- folks who insist it was staged?

Name them, all of them....

#193 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 04:57 PM

"STAGED!!!"

-Half of the fuqwits on this site
#176 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Look at Beverly, doing his best to troll!

Hey sweet cheeks, do us all a favor and post the comment from anyone on this thread saying this shooting was staged.

What a dumb ------- troll you are.

#194 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 04:59 PM

193

why? nobody else is held to that standard and i didn't name you specifically.....so......why?

I can name some right away....but if you're worried I'm accusing you......well, your name doesn't come to mind.

still care if I name them, all of them?

#195 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 04:59 PM

Trump's shooter used a .223, which was an objectively poor choice for that shot. I think Trump owes his life, in part, to that choice.

Today's assassination was a 200 yd shot and, judging by the video, was definitely not a .223.

I think this contrasts a person who didn't know much about guns to this case where I think the shooter is much more familiar.

#196 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 05:00 PM

If Big Balls was the impetus for the National Guard, what will Kirk be?

Agreed with Gal - let's see where this goes w/ Trump.

#197 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 05:00 PM

the hysterical aftermath from folks who insist it was staged?
#190 | POSTED BY EBERLY

There's 194 comments at the time I'm posting this.

Feel free to post any stating this shooting was staged.

Or just admit you got nothing and you're a stupid troll who came here looking for attention.

#198 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:00 PM

#195

No, deary, you are the one that thinks everything is about you, not I.

#199 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:01 PM

194

see, there is one raising his hand right now.

Of course, nobody thinks this shooting was staged.

Nobody thinks the Trump shooting was staged either. They just pretend to believe such tripe because they are trolling for attention.

They feel pretty stupid right now...........and their anger is going to be obvious......

#200 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:01 PM

- I think this contrasts a person who didn't know much about guns to this case where I think the shooter is much more familiar.

Exactly. That's not an amateur's shot, that's a pro's shot.

#201 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:03 PM

-Being an anti-government conspiracist is political.

Yes...but I think where folks get tripped up on the term "political" is where they think that means "partisan"

#202 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:03 PM

"Nobody thinks the Trump shooting was staged either."

Nobody that looked at his ear. You're a clown, of course that was staged.

#203 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 05:03 PM

#190 | Posted by eberly

Who said it was staged?

I just searched this thread for the word "staged", and you were the first to say it.

#204 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 05:03 PM

nobody thinks this shooting was staged.

Nobody thinks the Trump shooting was staged either.
#200 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're so desperate for these to be the same.

But they're not.

Your boy Trump staged an event to make himself look like a victim and a hero.

Charlie Kirk got shot on the neck.

Here you are trying to spin them to be the same thing.

Really pathetic.

#205 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:04 PM

And looking at the blood pouring out of ol' Charlie's neckbone. Now that wasn't staged.

BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP IDIOT MAGATS FROM BLAMING THE SHOOTING ON DEMOCRATS, NOW DOES IT.

#206 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-10 05:04 PM

-Feel free to post any stating this shooting was staged.

you ignorant wretch......that's not I was saying.

sucks....doesn't it?

#207 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:05 PM

Death is unfortunate. I will not mourn someone who, as is documented, justified gun violence.

I will say this:

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES

#208 | Posted by RevDarko at 2025-09-10 05:05 PM

#204

Bev is going to make this about other posters here, not about the subject of the thread. That's his shtick, always.

#209 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:06 PM

Nobody thinks the Trump shooting was staged either.

#200 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I think it was staged.

I could be wrong.

But I really think it was staged.

#210 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 05:06 PM

I just searched this thread for the word "staged", and you were the first to say it.
#204 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Eberly is a troll.

He showed up to deflect from the topic of conversation and turned this into a discussion about poor poor Trump.

But he promises he didn't vote for Trump, you'll just have to believe him.

#211 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:06 PM

If Big Balls was the impetus for the National Guard, what will Kirk be?
Agreed with Gal - let's see where this goes w/ Trump.
#197 | Posted by brass30

Yesterday after the SC ruling about ICE stopping people because they look Latino, speak Spanish, etc,. I texted some friends:

First it was driving while black. Now it's working while Latino. Next it will be protesting while Democrat.

We are one step closer to the latter.

#212 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:06 PM

I'm sad that this world (especially right-wing rhetoric) has made me so calloused that I feel no shock or sympathy at all.

#213 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 05:07 PM

Ironic this occurred 1 day before the 24 anniversary of 9/11. Just sayin

#214 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:08 PM

The Trump assassination attempt was clearly staged. Just watch the video, you can literally see he's standing on a stage.

#215 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 05:09 PM

LOL.....I was really thinking this thread would move so fast you'd all skip over it and see it for what it was..........an extremely minor point.

But them I remember how this place is fueled.......

#216 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:09 PM


I just searched this thread for the word "staged", and you were the first to say it.
#204 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

You can't read can you? No wonder you blame the right-wing for your dysfunction.

#217 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 05:10 PM

Giffords shooter wasn't political.

#171 | Posted by BellRinger

The Giffords shooter believed the Obama admin was trying to brainwash America...

Wonder where he got that idea...

#218 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:13 PM

I agree with more than one post above: what matters with Kirk's death is what Trump does with it.

What a sorry state for this country to be in when so much depends on the reaction of one mentally ill old man.

#219 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 05:13 PM

217

Oh...let it go. Let the half wits wallow in their loser fest.

#220 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:14 PM

-what matters with Kirk's death is what Trump does with it.

what do you think he's going to do?

#221 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:15 PM

The Giffords shooter believed the Obama admin was trying to brainwash America...
Wonder where he got that idea...

Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:13 PM | Reply

True that in triplicate spades.

#222 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:16 PM

Justin Baragona
@justinbaragona.bsky.social

Elon Musk, helping as always.

The left is the party of murder.

southpaw
@nycsouthpaw.bsky.social

people on the right don't tend to wait for any information about the motivations of the shooter before blaming the left. But Kirk had enemies on the right too; some of them surely live in Utah. And as with any shooting, the shooter's motivations may not map onto any coherent politics at all.

bsky.app

#223 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:16 PM

That's not an amateur's shot, that's a pro's shot.
#201 | Posted by Corky

a professional assassin?

Oh....that's a think ball of yarn

#224 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:17 PM

Is MAGA going to lose their ---- instead of trying any rational thought?
I'm thinking some of them will.

#187 | Posted by horstngraben

My facebook feed is already filling up with claims that "the left" has made it clear they will shoot any "conservative" they don't like...even though "the left" is also, simultaneously, anti-gun and anti-2A gun grabbers...

All sorts of talk about civility and polite discussion being done and now it's FAFO mode blah blah blah.

So, no, I don't think they will think through their reaction.

#225 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:17 PM

Not the obituary I wanted to read today

#226 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-09-10 05:17 PM

what do you think he's going to do?
#221 | Posted by eberly

Let's hope he doesn't retweet Musk.

#227 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:18 PM

Charlie Kirk dies. Eberly makes thread about himself.

#228 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 05:18 PM

"But Kirk had enemies on the right too"

Before the ---- crows 3 times....someone is going to say Trump did this.

#229 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:18 PM

Kinda hard to feel bad for someone who claims empathy is a liberal plot.

#230 | Posted by Tor at 2025-09-10 05:19 PM

#220 | Posted by eberly

Who said it was staged? Liar

#231 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 05:20 PM

the shooting or the hysterical aftermath from folks who insist it was staged?
the only proof of course was that "well, trump would pull something like this"

#190 | Posted by eberly

Hardly.

In any case, you're clearly having a bad day so I'll leave you to it.

Might want to start thinking about how to respond to and prepare for political violence instead of whining about something entirely irrelevant.

#232 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:23 PM

231

You're gonna keep this up?

what level of stupid were you born from?

I said "STAGED" as a jab to those of you who believed or even still believe that Trump's assassination attempt was staged.

This was not staged and nobody is saying that.

I embellished the count by saying "half" of this place which is truly --------....but you took the bait. wonder why?

But you're still trying to get caught up to that?

Geez........

#233 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:23 PM

- a professional assassin?

Always the Troll, even when he has to add words.

When you do that, you create a Strawman that even you can handle.

It was an expert, pro-level shot. Period. You had to add the 'assassin' so you whine.

#234 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:24 PM

Trump's shooter used a .223, which was an objectively poor choice for that shot. I think Trump owes his life, in part, to that choice.
Today's assassination was a 200 yd shot and, judging by the video, was definitely not a .223.
I think this contrasts a person who didn't know much about guns to this case where I think the shooter is much more familiar.
#196 | Posted by horstngraben

.223/5.56 is perfectly capable out to 200 yards.

What makes you think it was something else?

#236 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:25 PM

I'm sad that this world (especially right-wing rhetoric) has made me so calloused that I feel no shock or sympathy at all.

#213 | Posted by Whatsleft

It's hard to care about a guy like Kirk who claims and supports others who claim trans people are evil, gay people are evil, Dems are evil, Muslims are evil, and immigrants are evil. And then he and the people he supports literally support the killing of people in these groups.

It's hard to care when the very actions that could prevent these shootings like gun control are completely opposed by Kirk and his ilk and he says these shootings are acceptable.

It's hard to care when Republicans who demonize everyone suddenly talk about toning down the rhetoric but at the same time fill their ranks with people like Lara Loomer who claim all Dems should not be arrested after Kirk's shooting.

It's hard to care when Republicans, especially MAGAts, tried to first pretend the assassin of the Minnesota lawmakers was a Democrat then simply ignored it when that story proved untrue.

I will give Charlie Kirk the exact same support he gave school children shot and killed: Nothing.
I will give Charlie Kirk the exact same support he gave minority groups he supported killing: Nothing.

Is it good Charlie Kirk is dead? No. But ---- him and may he rot in hell.

#237 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:25 PM

Hardly.

poor italics management aside......you believe Trump's deal was staged? Honestly, outside of Zed and Clown and sucksoftly.....wasn't sure who else.

I guess we can count you and anybody else here who leaned in with their chin like you did..

#238 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:26 PM

I predict that this won't stop the violent rhetoric from the right wing side of the aisle. In fact I predict it will probably exacerbate that rhetoric 100 fold.

#239 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM

#233

So you're simply trolling, as usual. Got it.

#240 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM

Blah blah blah They just pretend to believe such tripe because they are trolling for attention.
blah blah blah

#200 | Posted by eberly

Happy hour started early today, eh?

#241 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM

Who said it was staged?
#231 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Eberly definitely wanted to draw comparisons between this shooting and Trump's dramatic performance.

The only idiot who agreed with his is our "open borders, liberal, Chinese immigrant Californian", who sometimes can vote, and sometimes can't vote, depending on what thread hes commenting on.

#242 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM

That's not an amateur's shot, that's a pro's shot.
#201 | Posted by Corky

I asked if it was an assassin. YOu could have just said "no...didn't say that". done...problem solved.

but you have so much drama to spew......let it out, MAN!!!

#243 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:28 PM

Maybe the shooter was inspired by Sarah "Don't retreat, reload" Palin or Sharron "Second Amendment Remedy" Angle.

#244 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 05:30 PM

what do you think he's going to do?

#221 | Posted by eberly

Use it as a metric ton of gasoline to throw on a highly charged political environment.

Please, you think he's going to call for calm and to let the shooter be caught and prosecuted?

I'm already seeing people say this is "the left" and it's time to "beat the left at their own game."

You're a fool if you think this doesn't have significant ripples.

#245 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:31 PM

-Happy hour started early today, eh?

JPW stole your line....sorry.

#246 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:31 PM

"This shooting is the same as the Trump shooting."
-Eberly

"Who said anything about this being like the Trump shooting!"
-also Eberly

"The Trump shooting was a real assassination attempt!"
-also Eberly

#247 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:31 PM

And as with any shooting, the shooter's motivations may not map onto any coherent politics at all.
bsky.app

#223 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

I would say with most shootings.

You have to be a little off your rocker already to go to this extreme.

#248 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:32 PM

It was an expert, pro-level shot.

I'm not so sure. I doubt he hit where he intended to.

#249 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-10 05:32 PM

-Use it as a metric ton of gasoline to throw on a highly charged political environment.

I think the only thing worth arguing about is how long he waits before he does exactly that.

But how does he do it? Not just rhetoric on X or whatever......what does he do from the Oval Office?

a new EO being drafted? Call on Congres to........fill in the blank______?

#250 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:33 PM

Anyone seeing evidence of this?:

Radley Balko
@radleybalko.bsky.social

When a right-wing man murdered Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota, progressives asked MAGA to tone down the rhetoric to prevent more violence. Within hours of Kirk's murder, motive still unknown, the right is demanding that the government wage a campaign of violence against their enemies.

#251 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:34 PM

It is as likely the shooter was QAnon, Kirk was all about releasing the Epstine files until about two weeks ago, when Dotard told him to change his tune. Then Kirk was completely opposes to the release the files. The QAnon crowd is far more violent than the left. Release the Epstine Files!

#252 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-09-10 05:35 PM

I guess we can count you and anybody else here who leaned in with their chin like you did..

#238 | Posted by eberly

The only thing I've said on that was that it was, IMO, the more likely explanation given what little information was ever released and, most importantly, the mountain of information that was never released.

It was a hugely strange ordeal that just *poof* went away once Trump was done wearing the ear gauze at the convention.

Far far too quick and quiet a matter considering it was an attempted assassination of a former POTUS who was the current candidate and who is, by their nature, a constant seeker of the limelight.

In any case, STFU about it. Go enjoy your bourbon.

#253 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:36 PM

"A spokeswoman for the university said the shooter fired at Mr. Kirk from the Losee Center, a building about 200 yards away."

www.nytimes.com

That's a lot further away than the building I mentioned earlier. There's a map at the link.

#254 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 05:39 PM

I think the only thing worth arguing about is how long he waits before he does exactly that.
But how does he do it? Not just rhetoric on X or whatever......what does he do from the Oval Office?
a new EO being drafted? Call on Congres to........fill in the blank______?

#250 | Posted by eberly

You're asking me to predict the next actions of a man whose sole goal in life is to create chaos for opportunity and profit?

#255 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:39 PM

Anyone seeing evidence of this?:
Radley Balko
@radleybalko.bsky.social
When a right-wing man murdered Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota, progressives asked MAGA to tone down the rhetoric to prevent more violence. Within hours of Kirk's murder, motive still unknown, the right is demanding that the government wage a campaign of violence against their enemies.

#251 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

See Lara Loomer

#256 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:40 PM

"There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now," Biden said in a post on X.

"Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk's family and loved ones."

"We don't yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie's family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children," Obama wrote on X."

#257 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:41 PM

Trump has ordered flags set to half staff for Charlie Kirk.

Did he do this for the Minnesota lawmakers one of his MAGAts assassinated? Of course not.

#258 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:41 PM

-Go enjoy your bourbon.

Yeah..I'll bet you want me to let it go.

You can't even believe yourself when you type that.

#259 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:42 PM

Republicans were giddy when the Minnesota politicians were murdered and Trump ignored them.

Expect to see rage and fury from the White House about this shooting.

#260 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:43 PM

See Lara Loomer
#256 | Posted by Sycophant

I'm no longer on X, so I don't know what she is saying.

#261 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:43 PM

NO firearm found at the scene, search for suspect continues per CNN.

#262 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:44 PM

Is it good Charlie Kirk is dead? No. But ---- him and may he rot in hell.

#237 | Posted by Sycophant

Good grief

#263 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:44 PM

Yeah..I'll bet you want me to let it go.

You give your butthurt little self far, far too much credit, ----------.

It's only wednesday. I hope your week improves.

#264 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:44 PM

I'll bet you want me to let it go.

That hole you're digging yourself into?

I commend you and suggest you continue at full speed.

Always enjoyable to watch you kick and flail in desperation for relevance.

#265 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:44 PM

-The only thing I've said on that was that it was, IMO, the more likely explanation given what little information was ever released and, most importantly, the mountain of information that was never released.

you still going with that?

#266 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:47 PM

But Democrats are to blame?

New rules for firearms on campus

Utah lawmakers updated state law governing firearms during the 2025 General Session.

Under the changes in HB 128, which went into effect on May 7, individuals who are 18 years old or older and have a current Utah concealed weapon permit (CWP) may carry a weapon on campus, including in an "open" fashion.

"Our highest priority is preserving public safety on campus," said Keith Squires, chief safety officer. "As a subdivision of the state, the University of Utah enforces state law, including weapon rules. Equally important is our role in educating members of our campus community about how to responsibly carry a firearm on campus and how to engage with roommates, professors and others to avoid conflicts and misunderstandings."

Utah has been an open or "constitutional carry" state since 2021. Prior to the passage of HB 128 during the 2025 Utah Legislature, those who wanted to carry a firearm on campus were required to keep it concealed. The new law makes it clear that Utahns 18 years or older, who have a concealed weapon permit, may carry a firearm concealed or openly on campus. University of Utah Police will confirm that those carrying openly on campus have a concealed weapon permit.


publicsafety.utah.edu

#267 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:47 PM

you still going with that?

#266 | Posted by eberly

Has any new information been released? Has anything changed?

#269 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:47 PM

See Lara Loomer
#256 | Posted by Sycophant
I'm no longer on X, so I don't know what she is saying.

#261 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

She basically called for all Left wing organizations to be arrested.

Remember she is PART of the Trump admin.

#270 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:47 PM

Is it good Charlie Kirk is dead? No. But ---- him and may he rot in hell.
#237 | Posted by Sycophant
Good grief

#263 | Posted by eberly

Why do you ignore all of the ---- Kirk preached?

#271 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:48 PM

#268 | Posted by boaz

Because that's all you want to see.

Refresh your memory of who the shooter was in Minnesota, idiot.

Oh, and f*&^ you for saying that s(*&.

#272 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:48 PM

See Lara Loomer
#256 | Posted by Sycophant
I'm no longer on X, so I don't know what she is saying.
#261 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday
She basically called for all Left wing organizations to be arrested.
Remember she is PART of the Trump admin.
#270 | Posted by Sycophant

Fox News Jesse Waters is already calling for violence: "They are at war with us. What are we gonna do about it?"

#273 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:48 PM

Posted by boaz at 2025-09-10 05:47 PM | Reply

You lie like a rug Boaz.

#274 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:50 PM

*shrug*
He was a shadowy provocateur; he lived to enrage people and sprout propaganda.
Sooner or later, he was going to enrage the wrong person.
From the sounds on the video, to me at least it sounds like a weapon with a suppressor at relatively close range.

Of course, this will inflame the same people who were screaming "second amendment remedy" at Obama and Biden for the last seventeen years.

#275 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-09-10 05:51 PM

Here you go, Eberly.

Is this the kind of reaction you think is too far out there?

x.com

More people will be murdered if the Left isn't crushed with the power of the state.

Calls for arrest and prosecution of people simply based on political standing. Not even actual standing, just the caricatured "left" used by people like Loomer.

#276 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:51 PM

256 | Posted by Sycophant
I'm no longer on X, so I don't know what she is saying.
#261 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday
She basically called for all Left wing organizations to be arrested.
Remember she is PART of the Trump admin.
#270 | Posted by Sycophant
Fox News Jesse Waters is already calling for violence: "They are at war with us. What are we gonna do about it?"

#273 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

I predict that this won't stop the violent rhetoric from the right wing side of the aisle. In fact I predict it will probably exacerbate that rhetoric 100 fold.

#239 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

#277 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:52 PM

Major B DEFINITELY does NOT hate to say it.... he loves to say it.

#278 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 05:53 PM

Well...as ol' Charlie hisself noted: "It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment."

Ces't tragique.

#279 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-10 05:53 PM

you still going with that?
#266 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're still going with Trump dodge bullets and then fist pumped heroically without fear?

And there are no photos of injury to his ear because Trump was being modest?

And there is no signs of damage because his ear grew back?

And even though he got shot in the ear, the photos of him have beautifully drawn lines of blood on his cheeks and face?

What a gullible moron you are.

#281 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:53 PM

#280 | POSTED BY FISHPEDO

Why?

No one cares.

#282 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:54 PM

#280 | Posted by fishpaw

There was what, two?

And rcade has been moderating this thread more than any I've seen in a long time.

Face it, you'll claim this is "the left" no matter how little of "the left" speaks positively about this or how much of "the left" says it shouldn't have happened and is a dangerous road we're heading down.

#283 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 05:55 PM

I just heard that Katie Miller, wife of Stephen, has said Dems have blood on their hands because of the ------, Nazi rhetoric used by Democrats with regard to Trump et al.

#284 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 05:55 PM

-Why do you ignore all of the ---- Kirk preached?

because I didn't follow him much at all.

But hey.......if you think that's appropriate then stick with it.

#285 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:55 PM

-Has any new information been released? Has anything changed?

"yes" would have been sufficient.

#286 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:56 PM

www.huffpost.com

Three People Critically Wounded In Shooting At Suburban Denver High School, Authorities Say

Already another one.

#287 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 05:57 PM

Why do you ignore all of the ---- Kirk preached?

In the end. He's a trumper defending the cult.

#288 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 05:57 PM

archive.is

#289 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-10 05:57 PM

-Why do you ignore all of the ---- Kirk preached?
because I didn't follow him much at all.
But hey.......if you think that's appropriate then stick with it.

#285 | Posted by eberly

Ah so you didn't follow it, so it doesn't matter and definitely didn't affect anyone.

Such a genius. Everyone applaud!

#290 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 05:58 PM

-Is this the kind of reaction you think is too far out there?

someone suggesting we arrest folks for promoting violence?

Been seeing that suggestion for years.......and it's fair game.

I was talking about actual actions.....not internet posts from that person.

#291 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 05:59 PM

Yikes:

Adam Schwarz
@adamjschwarz.bsky.social

My main observation from the last few hours of monitoring US social media is that Democrats are universally denouncing political violence and calling for calm while MAGA are escalating language and openly lusting for retribution against broad categories of people they identity as their enemies.

#292 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 06:00 PM

But ---- him and may he rot in hell.

#237 | Posted by Sycophant

Everyone applaud!

#293 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:01 PM

What makes you think it was something else?

#236 | Posted by jpw

It didn't look like a solid shot (his body took all the energy) to me and I think the shooter got a little lucky.

The wound and his response makes me think 60-70 grains at that distance is on the lighter side.

I probably shouldn't have said definitely, lol.

#294 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 06:01 PM

- because I didn't follow him much at all.

Perhaps is you read the thread as much as you typed on it....

"I think it's worth it to have the cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have our 2nd Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty."
~Charlie Kirk, 2023.

#34 | Posted by bartimus at 2025-09-10 03:32 PM | Reply | Flag:
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#295 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:01 PM

" you believe Trump's deal was staged?"

I keep trying not to, but the unanswered questions abound:

When seen without the tea bag, there never appeared to be any damage. Wounds don't heal that fast.

Additionally, cartilage doesn't grow back.

The presiding doctors never had a press conference. After an assassination attempt?!? That's never happened in ANYBODY's lifetime.

SS scurried photographers into place.

A crane LOWERED an American flag.

SS violated protocol by allowing the subject to stand, and get back in the line of fire.

To all those facts: Why? What's the explanation?

#296 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-10 06:02 PM

My main observation from the last few hours of monitoring US social media is that Democrats are universally denouncing political violence and calling for calm while MAGA are escalating language and openly lusting for retribution against broad categories of people they identity as their enemies.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 06:00 PM | Reply

I predict that this won't stop the violent rhetoric from the right wing side of the aisle. In fact I predict it will probably exacerbate that rhetoric 100 fold.

#239 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 05:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

I told you so.

#297 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 06:02 PM

"yes" would have been sufficient.

#286 | Posted by eberly

Believe is too strong of a term.

I know you can't understand someone having open and meh opinions on something because it doesn't make a big of sense, but it is possible.

Now go cry in your bourbon about whatever butthurt bulls*&^ has you whinging here about an irrelevant topic.

#298 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:03 PM

Adam Schwarz
@adamjschwarz.bsky.social
My main observation from the last few hours of monitoring US social media is that Democrats are universally denouncing political violence and calling for calm while MAGA are escalating language and openly lusting for retribution against broad categories of people they identity as their enemies.

#292 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 06:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's true. FB and Threads are exploding with violent rhetoric. As is fox news.

#299 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 06:03 PM

But ---- him and may he rot in hell.
#237 | Posted by Sycophant
Everyone applaud!
#293 | Posted by eberly

Read what Kirk preached then get back to us.

You already admitted you have no idea what he told his followers.

So why are you here?

#300 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:03 PM

How rough and controversial was Kirk?

Public Universities allowed him on campus.......they've refused a lot of other folks....so I assumed Kirk wasn't all that harsh.

But as I admitted upthread....I didn't follow him that much.

#301 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:04 PM

-Read what Kirk preached then get back to us.

I'm trying....but the internet is busy with another news event regarding Charlie Kirk at the moment.

#302 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:04 PM

someone suggesting we arrest folks for promoting violence?
Been seeing that suggestion for years.......and it's fair game.
I was talking about actual actions.....not internet posts from that person.

#291 | Posted by eberly

Nice selective reading.

The call was for targeting "leftist groups" who organize "radical protests." From that person, the word radical is meaningless and can be taken to mean all protests she deems from "the left."

But keep trying to ignore what's unfolding in front of your face, big guy.

#303 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:05 PM

Trump ordering flags at half mast until Sunday for Charlie Kirk.

#304 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 06:05 PM

Read what Kirk preached then get back to us.
~ SYCOPHANT

Does it matter?

So much for free speech and due process.

So why are you here?

Conservatives are claiming you are evil. I come here to perhaps see that you aren't, sadly I am disappointed..

#305 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 06:07 PM

-But keep trying to ignore what's unfolding in front of your face, big guy.

what am I ignoring?

what's going to happen that I'm of the belief isn't going to happen?

#306 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:07 PM

Conservatives are claiming you are evil. I come here to perhaps see that you aren't, sadly I am disappointed..

#305 | Posted by oneironaut

Conservatives are calling for violence.

That's evil.

Conservatives are ALWAYS calling for violence.

That's pretty damn evil.

#307 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:09 PM

-So why are you here?

well, not to express my gratitude a husband and father of 2 was shot to death and hundreds and hundreds of college kids are traumatized due to the fact it happened live right in front of them.

That's apparently why you are here.

Everyone applaud for Sychopant!!!

#308 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:11 PM

-Read what Kirk preached then get back to us.
I'm trying....but the internet is busy with another news event regarding Charlie Kirk at the moment.

#302 | Posted by eberly

I'll give you a hint:

Kirk was too stupid and lazy to get into Westpoint but when he got rejected, he was a crybaby. He got his start by publishing in his school newspaper an opinion piece saying he didn't get into West Point because some black girl took his spot. Evidence presented? None.

Breitbart took it and ran with it.

That's how the Kirk BS machine started and never stopped. Hate Trans, Hate Gays, Hate Minorities, Hate Dems, Hate Immigrants. It was the Kirk hate machine.

#309 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:12 PM

The only difference is a fraction of an inch where the bullet hit.

It's actually illustrates how absurd the notion that the attempt on Trump was not staged.

but you're too ------ deranged to realize it.

#183 | Posted by eberly

Trump was not hit by a bullet. His ear was unmarked 2 days later. He was examined by the same doctor who said he was the healthiest president in history.

#310 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 06:12 PM

Corky, earlier you asked me to name names........they all showed up and pointed to themselves.

Did you not think they existed?

#311 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:14 PM

Stop feeding ----------.

He started happy hour early and just wants to whinge.

#312 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:14 PM

Man, Trump was bleeding out of his whatever.

Nasty!

#313 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 06:14 PM

I don't wish this type of death on anybody. That being said, I am not sorry he is dead.

#314 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-10 06:16 PM

"Hate Trans, Hate Gays, Hate Minorities, Hate Dems, Hate Immigrants"

and public universities let him speak anyway?

a little ironic.....

#315 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:19 PM

#311 | Posted by eberly

You've become a One Trick Troll, er, I mean, Pony. Like one of those in Tiajuana.

You ONLY attack other posters. That's it. Nada else. Most people do a bit of that, including me. But it's not our only trick; we also comment on the merits of the subject itself. I posted Kirk's quote in #295.

You didn't comment on that, because that's not what you do.

#316 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:20 PM

-Trump was not hit by a bullet. His ear was unmarked 2 days later.

I'll play for a minute....

and the blood?

and the dead victims, and the dead shooter?

the Secret Service, local and state police? literally hundreds of people in on this conspiracy to commit murder.

#317 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:21 PM

and public universities let him speak anyway?

I don't recall him ever being invited by the university to speak, but by conservative student groups.

The universities themselves probably hated it when he was invited because it was guaranteed bad press.

#318 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:22 PM

-You ONLY attack other posters

good grief.....you don't HAVE to roll around on the ground crying.

#319 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:22 PM

and the dead victims, and the dead shooter?

Were dead spectators and a dead shooter.

Anymore stupid questions.

#320 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:22 PM

I hate to do this to you JPW....and I've pushed work back for a while now...but I have a board meeting.

I'll be sober later. Promise.

#321 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 06:25 PM

Charlie Kirk on FB:

www.facebook.com

#322 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:25 PM

Kash Patel posts that the SUSPECT is in Custody.

#323 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM

and public universities let him speak anyway?

If a campus group invites somebody to speak on campus, public universities are extremely reluctant to interfere with that. Particularly at this time, I don't think a university is going to reject right-wing speakers.

Richard Spencer, an avowed white nationalist, was allowed to speak at UF a few years ago.

#324 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM

Charlie Kirk calling Democratic leaders fascists:

bsky.app

#325 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 06:27 PM

Incredible, you think this guy deserved it ....

I disagreed with Charlie Kirk on just about everything. But, we shared an opposition to "gender identity" and the abolition of sex.
He once had me on his show to discuss it. He was polite, outgoing, and funny.
During the interview, I said something about the "TQIA." He exclaimed, "I don't know what any of that means!" I said, "Don't worry, nobody does."
He and his entire audience laughed.
I am not a Republican, and I am certainly not MAGA. But I am grieving his death in part because he was a human being, in part because he leaves behind a wife and two children, and in part because of what this says about American society.
I will not take any part in any political violence, and I will stand with anyone, wherever they stand on the political spectrum, who will denounce it.
I hope America can recover from this.
#RIP

EDIT: I will block anyone who comes on here to glorify violence.
x.com


You ONLY attack other posters.
~ CorkyDaPosterAttacker.

This is just insane.

#326 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 06:27 PM

"Hate Trans, Hate Gays, Hate Minorities, Hate Dems, Hate Immigrants"
and public universities let him speak anyway?
a little ironic.....

#315 | Posted by eberly

Some. There were some who didn't.

Free Speech after all.

#327 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:27 PM

It's a pathetic man whose final words are spent on spreading fear and hate. That's exactly what Kirk was doing when he was shot. He was demonizing trans people.

#328 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 06:27 PM

It's a pathetic man whose final words are spent on spreading fear and hate. That's exactly what Kirk was doing when he was shot. He was demonizing trans people.

#329 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 06:27 PM

Or Not:

"New York Times reporting: The New York Times reported that Patel posted the update confirming the shooter was in custody but later, multiple law enforcement sources indicated the suspect was still at large.

CBS News reporting: In a live update, CBS News confirmed that no suspect was in custody and that a search was still underway, citing three sources familiar with the investigation. This contradicted earlier reports from the university and Patel's social media post."

www.google.com

#330 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:28 PM

I will block anyone who comes on here to glorify violence.

#326 | Posted by oneironaut

No one on here is doing that. Not a single person has said it was justified.

Get off your soap box and stop white knighting.

But much of your MAGAt scum leaders are glorifying violence. Loomer, Jesse Waters, etc.

So shut up, hypocrite.

#331 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:29 PM

Kash Patel posts that the SUSPECT is in Custody.

Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM | Reply

Probably some middle aged white male who wanted to make a name for himself.

#332 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 06:30 PM

- insane.

#326 | Posted by oneironaut

That's a legal term, not a psychological one. You need to fire your Engrish teacher.

#333 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:30 PM

" #309 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-09-10 06:12 PM | REPLY"

I never followed him. My brother listens to his podcasts (I just learned this today).

No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing. You are either lying or trollling and pissing on his grave while his body is still warm is about as vile as it gets.

#334 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 06:30 PM

I guess there is such a thing as a second amendment solution? Who knew?
One less MAGA voter.

Oh and MAGA, you built this. No crying about what happened today.
Own it.

#335 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 06:32 PM

I'll play for a minute....

and the blood?

and the dead victims, and the dead shooter?

the Secret Service, local and state police? literally hundreds of people in on this conspiracy to commit murder.

#317 | Posted by eberly

You wouldnt cut your ear to change your fate from rotting in jail to being king of america and making billions of dollars?

Would you demand to put your shoes back on if someone was shooting at you? Would you stop to pose for a picture?

Would your ear be totally healed 2 days after being "shot?"

You wouldnt need hundreds in the conspiracy and you know it. It's hilarious how repubs beleive the most insane conspiracy theories yet totally ignore the most obvious ones that are true.

#336 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 06:32 PM

Kash Patel posts that the SUSPECT is in Custody.

Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM | Reply
I read that wrong. I thought it read Kash Patel in custody. Damn.

#337 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 06:33 PM

" #309 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-09-10 06:12 PM | REPLY"
I never followed him. My brother listens to his podcasts (I just learned this today).
No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing. You are either lying or trollling and pissing on his grave while his body is still warm is about as vile as it gets.

#334 | Posted by BellRinger

He was literally saying it as he got shot...

#338 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 06:34 PM

Kash Patel posts that the SUSPECT is in Custody.

Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM | Reply
I read that wrong. I thought it read Kash Patel in custody. Damn.

#339 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 06:34 PM

Pure evil does die, who knew?

#340 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 06:35 PM

I am not a Republican, and I am certainly not MAGA. But I am grieving his death in part because he was a human being, in part because he leaves behind a wife and two children, and in part because of what this says about American society.
#326 | Posted by oneironaut

Right you're just a regular guy who parrots whatever propaganda comes from maga and attacks the enemies of trump.

Kirk said empathy "is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage" so you should honor him by not feeling sorry for anyone.

#341 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 06:35 PM

#337

No one could have predicted that Kash would F up something like this so badly so quickly.

#342 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:35 PM

- Kirk said empathy "is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage"

Jesus would have told him to get a life. He may be doing so at the moment.

FLASH - NEWS presser says ONE person IS in Custody.

#343 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:38 PM

This happens 2 days after Epstein letter and drawing from birthday book' released?? And this guy was calling for the release of the Epstein files up until Trumpy and team had a little talk with himn 2 weeks ago? So they distract from Trump/Epsteid nastiness, Set an example of this guy for any other unfaithful, and rally/distract the mob against a perceived enemy (the dems). Damn, well done!

#344 | Posted by igashosparks at 2025-09-10 06:40 PM

"I am not a Republican, and I am certainly not MAGA."

LOL!

Got a walkin', talkin', duck here!

#345 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-10 06:41 PM

Supposedly there are frames from video footage showing a shooter profiled on the roof edge. All black with no identifiable features.

I guess we'll see.

#346 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:45 PM

They're showing the portion of one rooftop with yellow tape and officers posted on it... so looks like they have the shooter's crime scene marked off.

#347 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 06:48 PM

Is it too soon for jokes?
No? Cool.

Charlie Kirk was right to be skeptical of vaccines.
It turns out it was a shot that killed him.

#348 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 06:49 PM

Fox News is certainly playing it up.

Dubbing Kirk an "American Martyr" and the substory of "Charlie Kirk's assassination latest case of conservatives being targeted for murder."

I'm curious what their coverage of the Minnesota shootings was. Probably focused on the shooter being a Waltz "appointee"...

#349 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 06:53 PM

I follow some right wing political Facebook accounts and they are calling Charlie Kirk a modern day martyr. They've already started with their rhetoric.

#350 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 06:54 PM

#234- you're over your head; in the deep into the pool

AI Overview

No, a 200-yard shot with a high-powered rifle is not rare for experienced shooters and hunting scenarios; it's a common and achievable distance for which rifles are often tested and zeroed, as even a basic understanding of ballistics shows the rifle is capable of this accuracy.

#351 | Posted by homerj at 2025-09-10 06:54 PM

Kirk said empathy "is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage"

#343 | POSTED BY CORKY

We have to be better than this man or his movement.

His murder gives us a taste of what he and his movement mean.

#352 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 06:55 PM

#334 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 06:30 PM | Reply

You are either lying or trollling and pissing on his grave while his body is still warm is about as vile as it gets.

Do you remember I suggested you should change your user name to Grave Dancer on the Melissa Hortman thread? Maybe you should sit this one out, hippocrite.

#353 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-09-10 06:56 PM

No, a 200-yard shot with a high-powered rifle is not rare for experienced shooters and hunting scenarios

#351 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

So was the murderer a Liberal or a Real Man?

#354 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 06:57 PM

This definitely isn't any worse than any of the other shootings I've become desensitized to.

I mean, not even any little kids were killed, so this is one of the more tame ones imo.

#355 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 06:57 PM

Anybody who went through basic training should be able to make that shot.

The person circulating as the suspect based on tweeting about Charlie Kirk and saying something would happen, the day before it happened, is @NarjaGalvz who might be trans but just looks like an '80s androgynous musician to me.

#356 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 06:57 PM

Probably focused on the shooter being a Waltz "appointee"...

That was the go to talking point. Kinda like "But Biden" for the Epstein files coverup.

#357 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-09-10 06:58 PM

It's worth noting that the decomposing------------------- choked out Charlie's TPUSA co-founder.

www.businessinsider.com

#358 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 06:59 PM

No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing. You are either lying or trollling and pissing on his grave while his body is still warm is about as vile as it gets.

#334 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 06:30 PM | Reply

Unfortunately, Charlie Kirk has said pretty awful things about trans people.

#359 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 06:59 PM

Unfortunately, Charlie Kirk has said pretty awful things about trans people.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 06:59 PM | Reply

Yeppers he was notorious for that. He showed disdain for us on the regular.

#360 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 07:03 PM

He was quite literally in the middle a debate about trans Mass shooters when somebody who might be trans shot him in the neck.

#361 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-09-10 07:04 PM

Is it too soon for jokes?
No? Cool.
Charlie Kirk was right to be skeptical of vaccines.
It turns out it was a shot that killed him.

#348 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag

I saw a brutal joke on Threads.

Charlie Kirk changed his pronouns to was/were.

Gallows Humor.

#362 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 07:05 PM

#331
Perhaps the Military should be hiring Trans rather than kicking them out, eh?

#363 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 07:07 PM

I saw a brutal joke on Threads.
Charlie Kirk changed his pronouns to was/were.
Gallows Humor.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 07:05 PM | Reply

I'm a horrible human being because I found that funny.

#364 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 07:08 PM

Sycophant is that guy who blames the rape victim for getting raped.

Go on, Sycophant.

Say some horrible things about his widowed wife and young children. You know you want to.

#365 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:10 PM

The big question is, is Orange Adolf going to send the national guard to Utah to defeat the crime wave there? Too soon?

#366 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 07:10 PM

I will proudly never shed a tear for the death of a fascist.

Good riddance to bad trash.

Charlie Kirk was partially responsible for the fascist takeover of our country.

---- him. He should have been raised better.

I do not now, nor will I ever, advocate for violence.

I am glad a magat scum is dead to no longer to sow his hate upon our society.

What really bothers me is his death will be used by the fascist scum to act more fascistically.

Throughout history this type of violence inevitably accompanies fascism and authoritarianism, like the dawn follows night.

So, no matter who the shooter is, or what his motivations were, the person most responsible for this is our president, from attempting a violent coup, to a decade of violent divisive rhetoric to his fascistic takeover of the government to all of the authoritarian moves he has done over the past 8 months.

HE, and no one else, lead us here.

#367 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:11 PM

" Do you remember I suggested you should change your user name to Grave Dancer on the Melissa Hortman thread? Maybe you should sit this one out, hippocrite.

#353 | POSTED BY CHANTRESSE AT 2025-09-10 06:56 PM | FLAG: "

You have me confused with someone else.

#368 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:14 PM

No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing.

This is a weird way to deny something. You didn't listen to Kirk and you don't know what your brother heard when he did. Your certainty is completely unearned. You have no idea how harsh Kirk was in his rhetoric against transgender people. They were a subject he talked about a lot.

#369 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 07:14 PM

No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing. You are either lying or trollling and pissing on his grave while his body is still warm is about as vile as it gets.

#334 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025

Shut the ---- up snowflake, you and your kind built this! This was a second amendment solution you gouls are always cheering for.
Deal wait the consequences of your actions comrade!

#370 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 07:14 PM

Say some horrible things about his widowed wife and young children. You know you want to.

#365 | Posted by BellRinger

His widowed wife and children are objectively better off now.

They may not realize it and I am sure they will go through a lot of pain.

But they won't have a hate filled spouse/father in their lives. they have a chance at a better life.

#371 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:15 PM

So Truthhurts says he doesn't advocate violence but cheers that this guy was murdered in cold blood.

#372 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:16 PM

#368 No, I do not. You came in there dancing all over her grave before they were even in the ground. I called you out on it.

#373 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-09-10 07:16 PM

Sycophant is that guy who blames the rape victim for getting raped.

#365 | Posted by BellRinger

WTF are you talking about?

Like this isn't a good attempt at trolling from the party of "Well, she was dressed like she wanted it to happen!"

But what do you expect from Pedo Supporters?

#374 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 07:16 PM

This is a weird way to deny something. You didn't listen to Kirk and you don't know what your brother heard when he did. Your certainty is completely unearned. You have no idea how harsh Kirk was in his rhetoric against transgender people. They were a subject he talked about a lot.

Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 07:14 PM | Reply

He wanted us dead. Gays as well. We were seen as the enemy within and that our deaths were celebrated by Him.

#375 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 07:17 PM

The fact is Charlie Kirk spread a lot of hate and misery.

Should that have resulted in him being shot? No.

Should Democrats and liberals be shedding tears for him?? Again no.

Did Trump assassinate Charlie Kirk for challenging his Epstein narrative??? Probably.

#376 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 07:17 PM

No way my brother would ever listen to anyone who says the types of things you are characterizing.
This is a weird way to deny something. You didn't listen to Kirk and you don't know what your brother heard when he did. Your certainty is completely unearned. You have no idea how harsh Kirk was in his rhetoric against transgender people. They were a subject he talked about a lot.

#369 | Posted by rcade

Why you're taking at face value anything that lying piece of ---- posts is beyond me.

#377 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:17 PM

This is what the Utah governor gad to say about this:

" "If anyone ... celebrated even a little bit at the news of this shooting, I would beg you to look in the mirror and to see if you can find a better angel in there somewhere."
"I don't care what his politics are. I care that he was an American."

#378 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:18 PM

So Truthhurts says he doesn't advocate violence but cheers that this guy was murdered in cold blood.

#372 | Posted by BellRinger

Were you happy when Osama Bin Laden was killed?

I have stated my feelings about the assassination of Kirk. He decidedly cannot do more harm to the country I love.

Sorry you are sad over the death of a scum bag.

It really makes me wonder about your morality.

#379 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:20 PM

Riddle me this... does Bev do JeffyBelle troll impressions, or is it the other way around?

Twins, joined at the lip?

#380 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 07:20 PM

This is a copy of a text my brother sent me, my wife and one of our cousins who we are close with:

" I listen to his podcasts most every day"

My cousin's response:

" I listen to a lot of his stuff as well"

#381 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:22 PM

" Were you happy when Osama Bin Laden was killed?"

That's Snoofy level of false equivalence.

Face it, you hate anyone you disagree with politically.

#382 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:24 PM

Just came to say thoughts and prayers. He was okay with people dying to preserve 2A as the far right sees it so I am sure he is good with this ending. RIH.

#383 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2025-09-10 07:24 PM

Face it, you hate anyone you disagree with politically.

#382 | Posted by BellRinger

Nope just magat scum, like you.

#384 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:25 PM

" #368 No, I do not"

Yes you do. I don't cheer the deaths of people who have different political views from myself.

#385 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:26 PM

The News Media is having a tough time of this... showing actual quotes from Mr Kirk is treated like attacking him by rwingers.

Of course, the quotes are pretty awful and apparently just as plentiful.

His friend, former Pol Joe Walsh I think it is, was talking about how much he liked the guy and that he had mentored him in attack politics, but that Kirk never gave that up and was very divisive; not really debating people, but drawing them into confrontations at events like this one.

#386 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 07:26 PM

Remember when ------- mocked Nancy Pelosi's husband after being attacked?

I do.

#387 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:27 PM

Yes you do. I don't cheer the deaths of people who have different political views from myself.

#385 | Posted by BellRinger

You mocked Pelosi's husband, ---- you lying ----.

#388 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:27 PM

" Nope just magat scum, like you.

#384 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 07:25 PM | FLAG: "

You toss around MAGA and apply it to everyone you politically disagree with.

#389 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:27 PM

You have me confused with someone else.

#368 | Posted by BellRinger

Or maybe one of your past usernames

#390 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 07:28 PM

You toss around MAGA and apply it to everyone you politically disagree with.

#389 | Posted by BellRinger

That's because the entire republican party has been taken over by the maga cult. But you still play the "well I don't support THIS part of his policies" while serving as a loyal cult member.

#391 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 07:29 PM

" You mocked Pelosi's husband, ---- you lying ----.

#388 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 07:27 PM | FLAG: "

No. I mocked the conspiracy theories that it was a gay tryst.

Once the police bodycam video was released I praised how cool, calm and collected he looked during what was obviously a very terrifying situation.

#392 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:29 PM

This is a copy of a text my brother sent me, my wife and one of our cousins who we are close with:
" I listen to his podcasts most every day"
My cousin's response:
" I listen to a lot of his stuff as well"

#381 | Posted by BellRinger

Says a LOT about your cousin. None of it good.

#393 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 07:31 PM

You hoped for the children of Republican voters to die of cancer so you can mock their parents' grief.

#394 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:32 PM

" 393 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-09-10 07:31 PM | FLAG: "

You never met him and know nothing about him.

#395 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:32 PM

Don't feel bad about this at all. This is the type of thing MAGA has been wanting all along.

#396 | Posted by byrdman at 2025-09-10 07:34 PM

If you aren't against the Cult, you are for them; you enable them and obfuscate for them.

And it's a Cult where the Leader is a Traitor, according to his own Staff, a convicted finger-rapist who just lost 83 mil for disparaging the victim... a Bus Fraud convicted 34 times, and the World's Most Proficient Liar.

Not to mention the Wingman for the Mastermind of a Child Trafficking Ring.

;;
Try not to feel bad when people think you are either really really amoral, and or really really stupid... especially when you talk about how bad other people are, when they aren't anywhere near your Cult Leader's class of pure evil.

#397 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 07:37 PM

#39; was directed at Twoothy.

#398 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:39 PM

393 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-09-10 07:31 PM | FLAG: "
You never met him and know nothing about him.

#395 | Posted by BellRinger

I know he listens to a transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexist -------- who advocated rounding up anyone he didn't like and throwing them in prison or killing them.

That's enough.

#399 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 07:39 PM

You hoped for the children of Republican voters to die of cancer so you can mock their parents' grief.

#394 | Posted by BellRinger

You LOVE making up scenarios in your head.

Is that your only coping mechanism? Pretty sad. Even for a Pedo Supporter.

#400 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 07:39 PM

Listening to Megyn Kelly's podcast as I'm about to mow the lawn. It's gut wrenching listening to her try to hold it to hold it together. He was a pretty good friend of hers.

#401 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:43 PM

No. I mocked the conspiracy theories that it was a gay tryst.
Once the police bodycam video was released I praised how cool, calm and collected he looked during what was obviously a very terrifying situation.

#392 | Posted by BellRinger

So, let me get this straight.

You're initial reaction was to mock him for an aleged gay tryst until days/weeks later you saw the actual video of the situation and had an "aw ----" moment.

This is YOUR characterization btw.

You're not a good person

#402 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:46 PM

You toss around MAGA and apply it to everyone you politically disagree with.

#389 | Posted by BellRinger

Nope, I have a very specific definition for magat scum

Magat scum is anyone who voted for ------- in 2024 AND ANY currently serving Republican politician, until such time as that Politician reveals himself to not be part of a cult-to date not one currently serving Republican politician is NOT magat scum

So, stop lying about what I say. I am usually VERY precise with my language.

Example. I have numerous political disagreements with many of the folk at The Bulwark, but THEY are not magat scum.

You?

You're magat scum.

oh and a piss poor debater

and a lying piece of ----.

#403 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:50 PM

You hoped for the children of Republican voters to die of cancer so you can mock their parents' grief.

#394 | Posted by BellRinger a

See, there you go, lying again.

I NEVER hoped for the children of magat scum to die of cancer.

I SAID and I stand by it, is that magat scum who have children with cancer will see those children die, as a direct result of their voting for people who took away the medical care their children received.

I would be happy to see the magat scum parent suffer the consequences of their actions.

But, if I had my druthers I'd want the kids to get all of the care they need.

I support politicians who would do that. magat scum voted for politicians who took that away,

that make me more caring for magat scum parents.

You've been informed and educated

Be a better person

And stop lying about me, you lying piece of ----.

#404 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 07:53 PM

Listening to Megyn Kelly's podcast as I'm about to mow the lawn. It's gut wrenching listening to her try to hold it to hold it together. He was a pretty good friend of hers.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:43 PM | Reply

Who cares. She wouldn't shed a tear for the deaths caused by Charlie Kirk's hate filled rhetoric now would she??

#405 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 07:54 PM

MAGA are escalating language and openly lusting for retribution against broad categories of people they identity as their enemies.

#292 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

And therefore they will murder some people. Countdown begins now....

#406 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-10 07:57 PM

www.youtube.com

#407 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-10 07:58 PM

400 comments on a single-victim school shooting.
I don't think the hateful and bigoted God Charlie worshiped exists, but if He does He must be a fan of irony to have him gunned down on a campus.
Though I didn't wish for his death, I look forward to reading his obituary.

Meanwhile, four kids took a bullet today in a Colorado school.
The Tree of Liberty is well nourished.

#408 | Posted by BluSky at 2025-09-10 08:00 PM

#405 | Posted by LauraMohr

How does it make you feel when leftists make disparaging trans references in attempt to comically insult people?
Honest question.

#409 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-10 08:01 PM

You hoped for the children of Republican voters to die of cancer so you can mock their parents' grief.

#394 | Posted by BellRinger

You vote for cancer research to be cut so billionaires can be richer.

#410 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 08:02 PM

Listening to Megyn Kelly's podcast as I'm about to mow the lawn. It's gut wrenching listening to her try to hold it to hold it together. He was a pretty good friend of hers.

#401 | Posted by BellRinger

She should take kirk's advice and lose her empathy. He says it does too much damage.

#411 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-10 08:03 PM

Listening to Megyn Kelly's podcast as I'm about to mow the lawn. It's gut wrenching listening to her try to hold it to hold it together. He was a pretty good friend of hers.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 07:43 PM | Reply

You are hilarious.

I don't know if you're stupid or also a psychopath.

Charlie Kirk was a psychopath. Megyn Kelly is a psychopath.

Psychopaths don't have friends. It's not possible because they don't see other people as human beings, only as play things.

#412 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-09-10 08:08 PM

Charlie Kirk believed some gun deaths were inevitable and an acceptable price to pay for unfettered 2nd amendment rights: "It's worth to have a cost o a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

He also didn't believe in empathy: "I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage."

Charlie Kirk did not deserve to die for speaking out about his political beliefs, but I can't help but wonder: Would he think his own death was prudent and rational? Would he think people shouldn't have empathy for his wife and children?

I don't think his death was either prudent or rational, and I do have empathy for his family. May they find comfort in their grief, and may he rest in peace.

#414 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 08:10 PM

I don't care what his politics are. I care that he was an American."

#378 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I'll be looking for this sentiment from you and your side when the next Dem gets killed ...

#415 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 08:12 PM

*was

#416 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 08:18 PM

Kirk is a husband and father.
#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent

*was

#417 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 08:18 PM

Though I didn't wish for his death, I look forward to reading his obituary.
#408 | Posted by BluSky

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." - Mark Twain.

#418 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 08:23 PM

Stephen.

Where are you....

Someone wants a "word" with you.

About your favorite Constitutional Amendment...

#419 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 08:26 PM

Elon Turns Charlie Kirk Situation Scary

www.youtube.com

See what he reposted on his account at 7 min in.

#420 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 08:40 PM

See what he reposted on his account at 7 min in.

#420 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 08:40 PM | Reply

More racist garbage from Elon Musk. Apartheid was too good for his family.

#423 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:43 PM

#422 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:42 PM | Reply | Flag

Like anyone here respects you. LOL. GTFO.

#424 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:43 PM

#422 | Posted by oneironaut

Be sure to take your barf bag with you when you leave.

#426 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 08:45 PM

They released the original Suspect they had in custody... and they didn't even ship him to Zimbabwe!

Say they are 'back to square one' on the shooter.

#427 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 08:46 PM

two people is "this bad"?

OKAY.

#428 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:46 PM


Like anyone here respects you. LOL. GTFO.
#424 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I don't care what people think of me, I don't relish people to be killed like this thread has by so many posters.

If you are part of that you are evil. Just plain evil.

#429 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:46 PM

Read my comments. There's no IF. I'm not down with assassinations.

#430 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:47 PM

Remember when ------- mocked Nancy Pelosi's husband after being attacked?

I do.

Same.

If this was a democratic politician who was shot right wingers would be mocking the dead and blaming the Democratic Party for it.

Just like the did with the Minnesota killings.

Make a mistake, MAGAts love dead Democrats.

#431 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 08:47 PM


two people is "this bad"?
OKAY.

#428 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Look at the thread dude, look at the way these people skirt around their cheering and clapping, take the blinders off.

#432 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:47 PM

I don't care what people think of me,

Good, because you're a lying douchebag.

#433 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:48 PM


I'm not down with assassinations.
#430 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Given your defense of the bad actors, and not condemnation, I'd say deep inside you're happy about it.

#434 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:48 PM

CHARLIE KIRK SAYS A PATRIOT' SHOULD BAIL OUT ALLEGED PAUL PELOSI ATTACKER

www.rollingstone.com

This is who IAMRUNT worships,

#435 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 08:48 PM

I'd say deep inside you're happy about it.

#434 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag

See? Lying liar. This is why no one likes you.

#436 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:49 PM


Good, because you're a lying douchebag.
#433 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Perhaps, but I am not an evil person like you, Gal, Corky et al the idiots in this thread.

#437 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:49 PM

Deep down I'm thinking "---- you, fake liberal". I hope you feel that.

#438 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:49 PM

- toss my rice.

He means it... the wedding photog gig isn't werking out for him.

He tried to join ICE, but they have those stupid height standards. He has the same problem with roller coaster rides.

#439 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 08:49 PM


See? Lying liar. This is why no one likes you.
#436 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

I don't think I am lying. Show me where you called out TruthHurts, or you're the liar.

#440 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:50 PM

I don't have to call out truthhurts.

I'm not his daddy, and I'm not your monkey. --

#441 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:50 PM


Deep down I'm thinking "---- you, fake liberal". I hope you feel that.
#438 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

You're soul is in the devils hands. Corky should know.

#442 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:51 PM

My money is on the shooter being a Trumper, who was sent on a mission by Trump.

It's no coincidence Charlie Kirk was killed, he was speaking out against Trump's pedophilia and also coincidentally Chuck Schumer was trying to force the Senate into releasing the Epstein files.

This is all a distraction and a big win for Trump.

#443 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 08:51 PM

Show me where you called out bluewaffles for saying libs need to be put in camps like 100 times.

You haven't, because it's not your job.

#444 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:51 PM

#441 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE A

I rest my case.

Calling out evil isn't a monkey's job, its a mans job, and you aren't a man.

#445 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:52 PM

You're soul is in the devils hands.
#442 | POSTED BY ONESHEEP

You don't have a soul.

#446 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 08:52 PM

A man tells the truth. That's not you Chinese open borders liberal. You cannot even tell the truth about yourself.

#447 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:53 PM

Perhaps, but I am not an evil person like you, Gal, Corky et al the idiots in this thread.
#437 | Posted by oneironaut

You think I'm an evil person? Nah. I'm not a perfect person by a long shot, but I'm not an evil person either.

#448 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 08:53 PM

Funny thing is the president has an opportunity for greatness. He can use this killing as an opportunity to unite the country, disavowing violence and authoritarianism, he can radically change his rethoric.

He could

but he won't

#449 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 08:54 PM

Calling out evil isn't a monkey's job, its a mans job, and you aren't a man.

#445 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 08:52 PM | Reply | Flag

Okay, so call out bluewaffles for gleefully imagining liberals in camps.
Call out Gacy amazed for being racist and gushing over Black on Black violence in Chicago, and calling Michelle Obama a Silverback Gorilla.

#450 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:55 PM

Listening to Megyn Kelly's podcast as I'm about to mow the lawn. It's gut wrenching listening to her try to hold it to hold it together. He was a pretty good friend of hers.

Posted by BellRinger

I was watching this and laughing my ass off. It was funny AF.
Hurry up and it him in the ground, I have a full bladder.

#451 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 08:56 PM

" who advocated rounding up anyone he didn't like and throwing them in prison or killing them"

Liar.

#452 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 08:56 PM

- I'm not your monkey. --

1Nut's monkey left their Organ Grinder Act as soon as they go offa the boat in CA.

Took the organ with him... and his balls, too, apparently. Or at least one of them.

#453 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 08:56 PM

Talk ----, sometimes people take you at your word.

Sometimes they Do Something about it.

This guy was a gasbag who didn't realize some people have No sense of Humor about condoning Murders.

Especially Of Children.

Frankly I'm surprised Something like this hasn't happened sooner.

He was a Hitler Jugand mold our Youth Psycho.

No Violent deeds... yet, but creating a space for violence by proxy.

A ChickenHawk poisoning young minds.

Someone shut him up.

#454 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 08:58 PM

Well, there you have it.

Trump's first video attacks the Left.........not exactly a calming influence.

#455 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 08:58 PM

IAMRUNT is the --------- who cheers for this.

www.nbcnews.com

#456 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 08:58 PM

slate.com

#457 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 08:59 PM

" You LOVE making up scenarios in your head"

Twoothy said precisely that.

#458 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 08:59 PM

POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

It's a pleasure seeing you post again. Sorry it's under such circumstances and not happier times, like Trump's death.

One day we will celebrate.

#459 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-10 08:59 PM

Funny thing is the president has an opportunity for greatness. He can use this killing as an opportunity to unite the country, disavowing violence and authoritarianism, he can radically change his rethoric.
He could
but he won't
#449 | Posted by truthhurts

That would definitely help him get to heaven and win the Nobel Peace prize, but, no, he won't do it.

#460 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 08:59 PM

#418
I was paraphrasing, and I think it was Clarence Darrow.

To paraphrase another great writer - Too bad no one gave Charlie Kirk an enema before he died, we could have buried him in a match box.

#461 | Posted by BluSky at 2025-09-10 09:00 PM

Terrible.

#462 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:00 PM

Funny thing is the president has an opportunity for greatness. He can use this killing as an opportunity to unite the country, disavowing violence and authoritarianism, he can radically change his rethoric.
He could
but he won't

Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 08:54 PM | Reply

You have to have a soul first and he doesn't have a soul. Just sayin

#463 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 09:00 PM

#459 | Posted by ClownShack

Hey, Clown, good to see you too. I had to come back here to vent.

#464 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 09:00 PM

Oneironaut,

If you scroll way up you will see Alexandrite's first post was on point and human.

#465 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:01 PM

Hey MAGA'ts. You troglodytes up for gun control yet now that one of your deity's died of lead poisoning?

#466 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 09:01 PM

To paraphrase another great writer

Hitchens on Falwell.

#467 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:01 PM

Steve Bannon is saying, "We are at War with them!", now.

He and Herr Musk are on the same Racist Page.

I hope the shooter turns out to be either one of Kash Patel's best friends, or a trans black man who immigrated here to eat cats and have abortions.

#468 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:02 PM

If you scroll way up you will see Alexandrite's first post was on point and human.

#465 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm beyond tired of American's shooting each other. it's like we don't even care anymore.

#469 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:02 PM

If a campus group invites somebody to speak on campus, public universities are extremely reluctant to interfere with that. Particularly at this time, I don't think a university is going to reject right-wing speakers.
Richard Spencer, an avowed white nationalist, was allowed to speak at UF a few years ago.

#324 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 06:26 PM | Reply

Take note of this, morons. This is a reasonable response to a reasonable question.

It's how 2 civil adults converse.

Now.....look in the mirror and admit this is a bridge way way way way way too ------ far for you.

Thank you RCADE. Way to be an example for the kids.

#470 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:02 PM

trans black man who immigrated here to eat cats and have abortions.

LOL.

Jokes aside the shooter seems former military to me.

#471 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:03 PM

" I'll be looking for this sentiment from you and your side when the next Dem gets killed ...

#415 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-09-10 08:12 PM | FLAG: | "

I can only speak for myself. You won't see that vile crap from me when the next Democrat who dies.

#472 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:05 PM

I will block anyone who comes on here to glorify violence.

#326 | Posted by oneironaut

So one can assume you will be blocking yourself first comrade?

#473 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 09:07 PM

I don't relish people to be killed like this thread has by so many posters.

It's been like two.

By tomorrow morning s^*%bags like you will be talking about it as if every "liberal" here was dancing bananas.

#474 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:07 PM

You wouldnt cut your ear to change your fate from rotting in jail to being king of america and making billions of dollars?
Would you demand to put your shoes back on if someone was shooting at you? Would you stop to pose for a picture?
Would your ear be totally healed 2 days after being "shot?"
You wouldnt need hundreds in the conspiracy and you know it. It's hilarious how repubs beleive the most insane conspiracy theories yet totally ignore the most obvious ones that are true.

#336 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

You're saying the attempted assassination wasn't staged....just the part where Trump embellishes the extent of the injury?

You're saying it wasn't planned....but rather Trump took the opportunity to fake the extent of the injury?

The dead shooter, the dead victims......those weren't staged?

#475 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:08 PM

I'm beyond tired of American's shooting each other. it's like we don't even care anymore.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:02 PM | Reply

It's hard to feel anything anymore when our country REFUSES to do what is necessary to end gun violence. We've become too desensitized to gun violence because it happens way too frequently. I don't know what to do about it. It's beyond my power.

#476 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 09:09 PM

I will block anyone who comes on here to glorify violence.
#326 | Posted by oneironaut

Don't threaten us with a good time, bozo.

#477 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:09 PM

- seems former military to me.

He actually seems more professional all the time he's not being caught. Clean away, no vid, no weapon, no nothing?

Inside job?? Epstein Distraction by Patel, Hegspeth, Bondi??

Eberly in the Kitchen with the pipe?

#478 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:09 PM

Look at the thread dude, look at the way these people skirt around their cheering and clapping, take the blinders off.

#432 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Translation-people aren't acting like my narrative says they are, so I'm going to just pretend they want to and declare broad strokes conclusions from there.

#479 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:10 PM

Trump: Talks about only violence on Republicans - and blames the Left's rhetoric.

Just posted on Truth Social.

#480 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 09:10 PM

Perhaps, but I am not an evil person like you, Gal, Corky et al the idiots in this thread.

#437 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Yeah you lying sack of s^*%, you are the evil one.

#481 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM

" You LOVE making up scenarios in your head"
Twoothy said precisely that.

#458 | Posted by BellRinger

If I posted "precisely that" than post it ----,

You won't cause you;re a lying piece of ----

I can post proof of that

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

A troll lies by definition.

You're a lying ----

#482 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM

I will block anyone who comes on here to glorify violence.
#326 | Posted by oneironaut
Don't threaten us with a good time, bozo.

#477 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:09 PM | Reply

I second that emotion. Please do.

#483 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM

And that's why Trump is not a true leader.

Points the finger just one way.

Have to be bigger than that, sorry.

#484 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM

I can only speak for myself. You won't see that vile crap from me when the next Democrat who dies.

#472 | Posted by BellRinger

No. You'll be busy lying about the killer being trans or a Democrat and then disappear when they prove to be a MAGAt.

It's a story as old as time with you

You said Charlie Kirk couldn't be that bad because your cousin listens to him. Multiple people came with receipts. And you ignored it. Typical Jeff.

#485 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM

I am told that as a state representative this is the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences and then stand in solidarity with those on the other side of the aisle as we condemn political violence and stand unified as one people.
But we aren't "one people" are we?
The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.
We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.
I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.
And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn't bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.
I don't think they realize it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered as the day where we finally woke up to what this fight really is.
It's not a civil dispute among fellow countrymen. It's a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win, and one side will lose.
Charlie tried to win that fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences.
And the other side murdered him.
Not because he was "extreme" or "inciting violence" or any other hyperbolic slur they hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective. Because he was unafraid. Because he inspired others and made them feel like they had a voice, that they were not alone. And he did it at the very institutions which have fomented so much hatred toward conservatives.
I don't want to "stand in solidarity" with the other side of the aisle. I want to defeat you. I want to defeat the godless ideology that kills babies in the womb, sterilizes confused children, turns our cities into cesspools of degeneracy and lawlessness ... and that murdered Charlie Kirk.
Social media is aflame right now with leftist celebration of Charlie's death.
I wonder if any among them understand what has just happened. If there is a Yamamoto somewhere in their midst warning, that all they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.
I doubt it. I think they gave up such introspection and self-awareness long ago.
I don't know exactly what will happen next. I just know that it won't be the same as what has happened in the past.
There will be thoughts and prayers ... Charlie would have wanted prayers. Not for himself but for those left behind and for the country that he loved.
But then there will be a reckoning.
My Christian faith requires me to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me. It does not require me to stand idly by in the midst of savagery and barbarism...quite the opposite.
So every time I feel tired, every time I feel discouraged or overwhelmed, I am going to watch the video of a good man being murdered in Utah ... I will force myself to watch it ... and then I will return to the work of destroying the evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.
Rest with God Charlie, your fight is over.
Ours is just beginning.

State Representative Nick Freitas

#486 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-10 09:12 PM

- and blames the Left's rhetoric.

Of course he does, it's on Page One of his Playbook; accuse the other side of all the vile things you do and say.

#487 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:12 PM

My money is on the shooter being a Trumper, who was sent on a mission by Trump.
It's no coincidence Charlie Kirk was killed, he was speaking out against Trump's pedophilia and also coincidentally Chuck Schumer was trying to force the Senate into releasing the Epstein files.
This is all a distraction and a big win for Trump.
#443 | Posted by ClownShack

If the shooter is a conservative, my bet is on him being a QAnon type who is pissed at Trump for not releasing the Epstein files and at Kirk for changing his tune on that topic and letting Trump persuade him to drop it. If that were the case though, he'd be a dead man walking. He'll never go to trial but will be found hanging in his cell Epstein style.

#488 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 09:12 PM

Thank you RCADE. Way to be an example for the kids.

#470 | POSTED BY EBERLY

lol that's rich coming from you.

#489 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:14 PM

I really didn't know much about Kirk, but the more I learn, the less I like him:

Trump Ally Charlie Kirk Suggests Children Should Watch Public Executions

On his weekly panel discussion, "ThoughtCrime," Kirk was discussing death penalties of those convicted of crimes, adding that not only does he believe there should be public executions, but that children should watch them.

"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked.

Kirk, along with his co-hosts Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Blake Neff, continued to discuss at what age should children watch the public executions, with one co-host pointing out as young as 12 years old.

www.newsweek.com

#490 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 09:17 PM

= "But then there will be a reckoning."

More rwing threats from the likes of Steve Bannon and Herr Musk.

From a guy who voted against raising the Min Wage in his state to $12 an hour, and wonders why people can't live on less money while complaining about crime by low income people.

#491 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:17 PM

" It's been like two"

It's been considerably more than that. But it certainly has not been all of the lefties posting on this thread.

#492 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:18 PM

State Representative Nick Freitas

#486 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Of course, you'd think that pile of room temp IQ, low thought bulls^*% worth posting.

You're just a vile piece of s^*% looking for an excuse.

F^*% you, you unAmerican s^*%heap.

#493 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:19 PM

Israel?

They're violent enough. They have excellent Snipers.

Kirk was somewhat distancing himself from the hard core Zionists.

Netanyahu had a comment about the killing awefully fast.

Just Sayin'

#494 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 09:20 PM

It's been considerably more than that. But it certainly has not been all of the lefties posting on this thread.

#492 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, it hasn't.

You could count them on one hand and still have enough fingers left to help eb's wife get over his-----------.

#495 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:21 PM

And that's why Trump is not a true leader.
Points the finger just one way.
Have to be bigger than that, sorry.

#484 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 09:11 PM | Reply

Sad but true.

#496 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-10 09:21 PM

- Trump Ally Charlie Kirk Suggests Children Should Watch Public Executions

He seems more and more deserving the more ya get to know him. Perhaps the shooter is the Angel Moroni.

;;

BTW, NICE to see you posting, Gal! You bring some class to these pages.

#497 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:22 PM

Does it seems a little odd that the party that violently attacked our capitol is suddenly outraged with political violence?

~ Tea Pain ~

#498 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 09:22 PM

I don't get why Charlie Kirk was targeted in this way. He was a podcaster and conservative activist who had developed a popular shtick acting like a message board troll on college campuses. He had some sway on the right because he was perceived as being a leader of young activists, but that's still a long way from real power. He was one voice among many on the Internet, like Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Chaya Raichik and that Louder with Crowder dude. None of them are important. They're unserious people and constant attention seekers. We know their names because social media rewards that behavior.

We don't know the motive or the shooter, but sometimes stuff like this is done by an obsessed superfan, not someone politically opposed to them. They think that what they do will associate them with the victim forever, like the killer of Chrissie Grimmie.

#499 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 09:23 PM

" 482 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:11 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

You said you wish the children of Trump voters (Republicans by definition) die from cancer so you can laugh at their parents grief.

#500 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:23 PM

"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked.

-Charlie Kirk

Well ain't that a bitch, LOL!

Hope Chuck stocked up on sunblock as it's going to be real hot where he ended up.

#501 | Posted by a_monson at 2025-09-10 09:24 PM

" We don't know the motive or the shooter, but sometimes stuff like this is done by an obsessed superfan, not someone politically opposed to them"

Correct. We do t know what motivated the shooter. Most probable it was partisan but right now we just don't know.

#502 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:25 PM

- an obsessed superfan,

Or like Mark David Chapman, who gunned down John Lennon.

#503 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:26 PM

Remember when boaz said he wanted to take some liberals out back and shoot them?

I do

#504 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:28 PM

Is Kash Patel using grok to track down the shooter?

#505 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 09:28 PM

#502 we don't know. But it's probably what I'm hoping it is anyway.

Ppffftt

When it turns out to be some maga troll who was pissed he was disloyal and pushed the Epstein issue? What then?

#506 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:29 PM

482 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:11 PM | REPLY | FLAG"
You said you wish the children of Trump voters (Republicans by definition) die from cancer so you can laugh at their parents grief.

#500 | Posted by BellRinger a

You're a lying piece of ---- troll

No one respects you

You're a liar

Here is the proof.

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

Now, ----, post proof of your assertion

You won't cause you can't cause you're a lying ----

And, again, NO ONE respects you loser

#507 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:29 PM

This will actually be very embarrassing if the shooter is yet another Republican.... I mean, what will they say this time?

#508 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:30 PM

I just hope it's not a person who is transgender. That wouldn't be a good thing for people like myself. That would just sink us further down the political landscape. It would invite violence against us.

#509 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 09:31 PM

I mean, what will they say this time?

It's a HOAX!

Then they'll kill the libruls.

#510 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 09:31 PM

I don't get why Charlie Kirk was targeted in this way. He was a podcaster and conservative activist who had developed a popular shtick acting like a message board troll on college campuses. He had some sway on the right because he was perceived as being a leader of young activists

Well, I would say he was an up and coming. He had nothing for the left to criticize on. Can you imagine if he ran for office? He would win in a landslide.

I think that's why the left took him out.

#511 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-10 09:33 PM

And as we go back and forth here, the killer is actually still on the loose.

After watching that -------- presser - where if you watched it - you'd have no idea WTF was going on. Had to be the worst informational presser for these situations I have ever seen.

Ironically, we find out the FBI person for that branch of the FBI was fired.

#512 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 09:35 PM

" 495 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-09-10 09:21 PM | FLAG: "

Snoofy
Twoothy
A Monson
Sycophant
Corolioanus

Irony have time to scroll through all these f the comments. My bet is at least one or two more I missed.

#513 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:35 PM

Remember when boaz said he wanted to take some liberals out back and shoot them?

That comment was made in jest. And RCADE knew it was. So much so, it's one of the few he never deleted.

But you are serious in celebrating the death of another human being. You are scum, truthhurts. You really are.

#514 | Posted by boaz at 2025-09-10 09:36 PM

Video of Trump at link. He only mentions violence against the right. No mention of violence against the left:

Aaron Rupar @atrupar.com

Trump: "For years those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism we're seeing in our country & it must stop right now. My admin will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity"

bsky.app

#515 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 09:36 PM

I wonder if the orders came from high up or a lone actor?

#516 | Posted by byrdman at 2025-09-10 09:37 PM

Patricide Jeff ----- on Brian Sicknick's grave every chance he gets.
What a loathsome pos.

#517 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 09:38 PM

#515 - Trump has the chance to do the right thing, and swing and a miss............

He's a disgusting human being.

And on top of that, he's the #1 culprit for spreading ill will on the Left to his supporters.

#518 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-09-10 09:39 PM

But you are serious in celebrating the death of another human being. You are scum, truthhurts. You really are.

#514 | Posted by boaz

Charlie Kirk was actively harming the people I care about

---- him and ---- you.

#519 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:39 PM

------- dines with literal nazis (Nick Fuentes), then wonders why we consider him a nazi

---- him

#520 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:40 PM

" 507 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:29 PM | FLAG: "

You said it this winter. It's a comment too old to even be in your feed. What's insane is you are now lying about having said it.

#521 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:41 PM

Who Radicalized him or was he self radicalized?

He knew he wanted that man Dead.

That's for sure.

This seems like it's in the Mossad wheelhouse.

#522 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 09:41 PM

"Appearing before the United States House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, Charlie Kirk pleaded the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination."

much more

en.wikipedia.org

He was a True Believer, a Loyal Trumper.... not like those Lewzer Trumpers that Trump appointed to the DOJ that ended up spoiling his Coup Attempt and testifying to his crimes.

#523 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:41 PM

I am not lying about it you bag of ----

I don't lie

I stand behind everything I say

I am man enough to admit it and defend it like I am in this very thread about Kirk's death

My opinion is unpopular and seemingly harsh but I stand behind it

U? You're a well known liar

#524 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:44 PM

" And as we go back and forth here, the killer is actually still on the loose. "

I know. And that royally sucks. My fear is the killer will get away with it.

#525 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:44 PM

" Charlie Kirk was actively harming the people I care about"

Oh really? Who did he assault that you care about?

#526 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:46 PM

If He's Mossad he won t be found.

#527 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 09:47 PM

If the Killer was a skilled pro, he might be long gone. Possibly even be out of the country on to his next assignment.

#528 | Posted by byrdman at 2025-09-10 09:47 PM

#524.

It was just after legislation passed capping how much universities could spend cancer research funds on administrative costs to the same level cap

You were on one of your hyper-emotional temper tantrum rants where every other word was either, " ----" ------" or "scum".

#529 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:49 PM

Jeff, question for you

Are you a troll?

#530 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:49 PM

" If the Killer was a skilled pro, he might be long gone. Possibly even be out of the country on to his next assignment.

#528 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN AT 2025-09-10 09:47 PM | FLAG: "

That's the scenario I fear most.

#531 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:50 PM

" Are you a troll?

#530 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:49 PM | FLAG: "

Sometimes, I troll.

#532 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 09:51 PM

If He's Mossad he won t be found.

Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-09-10 09:47 PM | Reply

You have watched too many NCIS shows haven't you??

#533 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-10 09:51 PM

"My money is on the shooter being a Trumper, who was sent on a mission by Trump."

I would have bet on it being twoothy or sucksoftly.

But it's Clown for the win.

It took longer than I thought.

#534 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:54 PM

"Are you a troll?"

Twoothy, are you a man?

#535 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:55 PM

Hey ----

I know exactly what and when I said ----

Last December Musk got the spending bill stopped until Republicans removed spending for kids with cancer. If I recall correctly there were 4 areas removed from the bill including allowing kids with cancer to cross state lines for treatment, lifting restrictions on participation in medicine trials and a couple of other things.

My point then and I stand by it, was that people who voted for Republicans and ----ler voted for this to happen

As a result, kids with cancer will die because they do not have access to the care and medicine they had before the cuts

I drew the logical conclusion that magat scum who are parents to kids with cancer, who voted for ----ler and republicans had voted to have medical care and medicine taken from their sick kids

I am happy that the parents will suffer the pain of the loss of their children while they contemplate what might have been if they supported Harris.

I am horrified that kids with cancer had their medical care stripped from them. I support massive funding for kids with cancer. In fact the president I supported called for a massive fight against cancer.

that is NOT wishing or celebrating the kids deaths. it is pointing out that actions have consequences. That magat scum voted to end medical care for their children

I stand by that. that is what i said then, that is what I say now.

to claim otherwise makes you a liar you ------- ----

#536 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:56 PM

" Are you a troll?
#530 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:49 PM | FLAG: "
Sometimes, I troll.

#532 | Posted by BellRinge

ROFLOL

LOL

You are too stupid to realize you are admitting to being a liar

Too

-------

Funny

Another question, do you wonder why no one respects you?

#537 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 09:57 PM

-Charlie Kirk was actively harming the people I care about

--------. This is just a safe space for the time being to rag on someone like that.

you want the attention. You want the opportunity to express how you really feel.

That you're not really liberal......not even close. You don't aspire to any real liberal values.

You're just a hateful punk begging for attention.

#538 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:57 PM

-- Twoothy, are you a man?

"Don't answer that, TH! The man's a sex maniac.... watch your goodies!"

(apologies to Hawkeye and Frank Burns)

#539 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 09:59 PM

-Another question, do you wonder why no one respects you?

The people not respected here are folks who are largely ignored.

Bell is not ignored. He's got followers like you everywhere all the time.

How many time a day do you log in just to see if Bell is posting?

12? 15? more?

Every day all day..."where is Bell...I'm gonna get that MF!!!"

day after day.

#540 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 09:59 PM

I think I found his killer

"We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk"

www.jezebel.com

#541 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-10 10:00 PM

The ironic thing is that everyone here taking shots at this dead guy will wake up tomorrow and your ------ up worthless lives won't be a single bit better.

In fact......might be worse. You lost someone to blame for your rage and hatred.

I'll bet when Rush Limbaugh died....every ------ on this place thought life would get better.

Well..........did it?

Look at where we are.

#542 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:02 PM

"
#536 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:56 PM | FLAG: "

That's a distinction without a difference. Very much like what you are doing on this thread. "I don't advocate violence, but ... ."

#543 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 10:02 PM

It appears that Bev thinks JeffyBelle is a successful troll, and wants to grow up to be him.

#544 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 10:03 PM

"If I recall correctly there were 4 areas removed from the bill including allowing kids with cancer to cross state lines for treatment, lifting restrictions on participation in medicine trials and a couple of other things."

link?

#545 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:03 PM

544

I certainly wouldn't want him to fail at it. successful sounds better than the alternative.

#546 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:04 PM

"Bell is not ignored"

He lies a lot. You're surprised he gets corrected a lot?

In fact, sometimes he lies ... just to be corrected.

#547 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-10 10:04 PM

#536 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2025-09-10 09:56 PM | FLAG: "
That's a distinction without a difference. Very much like what you are doing on this thread. "I don't advocate violence, but ... ."

#543 | Posted by BellRinger

And yet again, you have to lie. No matter how much you try you cannot make it true that I wanted kids to die. I only point out the inevitable cost of people's actions. Nothing would make me happier if the vast majority of Americans rejected ------- and magat philosophy. But here we are, in the Find out phase.

You have to make ---- up to try to attack me.

You see jeff, the difference between you and me is I was taught at a young age that all a man really has is his word. If he does not have his word, he is nothing. You should have been taught that.

#548 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 10:06 PM

The ironic thing is that everyone here taking shots at this dead guy will wake up tomorrow and your ------ up worthless lives won't be a single bit better.
- eberly

So true. But truthhurts has gone on these tirades before, I see no change.

I hold out hope for Alexa.

Corky while claiming religious is the evil Jesus talks about.

Proverbs 10:19 -
When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent

#549 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 10:07 PM

Ol' Beverly's putting in some serious time on this one while admittedly knowing nothing of Charlie Kirk.

"Concern troll" seems to fit.

#550 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-10 10:07 PM

lol that's rich coming from you.

#489 | Posted by jpw

well, we all know a civil conversation is way out of your league.

and you took it personal when I called anybody out for believe the trump assassination attempt was staged.

which you actually believe....and it pisses you off when you're reminded of that.

so......either stop believing such tripe or get over how ------ dumb you look for admitting it.

maybe just believe it in private.....and let it go.

#551 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:08 PM

"while admittedly knowing nothing of Charlie Kirk."

that's true. I didn't say "nothing"...but it's very little.

and yet......

#552 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:09 PM

Charlie Kirk

@charliekirk11
Guns save lives

#553 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 10:10 PM

-In fact, sometimes he lies ... just to be corrected.

you say that...but something tells me you don't really get that.

I agree with you that he wants to be addressed and challenged.

You should enjoy it more.

#554 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:11 PM

#553 - Perfect tombstone.

#555 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:12 PM

You see jeff, the difference between you and me is I was taught at a young age that all a man really has is his word.
- truth lies

Nah he has more than that, he calls out evil.

You are evil. No doubt about it.

#556 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 10:13 PM

"all a man really has is his word"

"---- him. I hope he gets ass cancer"

-Twoothy

#557 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:13 PM

I back my statements with facts

www.thebulwark.com

The slimmed-down version was stripped of language that would have allowed children with relapsed cancer to undergo treatments with a combination of cancer drugs and therapies. (Currently the Food and Drug Administration is only authorized to direct pediatric cancer trials of single drugs.) The bill also didn't include an extension of a program that gave financial lifelines, in the form of vouchers, to small pharmaceutical companies working on rare pediatric diseases. It was also missing earlier provisions that would have allowed for kids on Medicaid or CHIP"that is, poor children"to access medically complex care across state lines.

For political veterans, however, the most striking absence in the revised bill was the language that would have extended funding for the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Program.

The program, named after a 10-year-old Virginia girl who died from an inoperable brain tumor in 2013, was something of a miracle to begin with. When it passed in 2014, the Obama administration and congressional Republicans had been at a standstill over federal spending. Sequestration cuts had taken a big bite out of the budget of the National Institutes of Health. The $126 million that the bill authorized over a ten-year period to help fund pediatric cancer research was minor compared to the $1.55 billion the NIH had lost in appropriations. But it was also the product of painstaking negotiations, with then-House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) expending significant political capital to ensure that the law got passed.

"It was a turning point in pediatric cancer research and I've never been prouder of the entire Congress for rallying behind it," recalled Rory Cooper, a former Cantor aide.

But the funding needed to be extended. And the bill that the current crop of congressional leaders agreed to earlier this week did just that, devoting an estimated $190 million to the program through 2033.

The presumption among the compromise bill's authors and advocates was that it would sail through. Rep. Jennifer Wexton and Sen. Tim Kaine, both from the Miller family's home state of Virginia, put out a press release applauding its inclusion in the continuing resolution. The Facebook page for the Smashing Walnuts Foundation put up a post declaring that the "Gabriella Miller Kids First 2.0" had passed "and will be signed into law!" It was signed by Gabriella's mother, Ellyn Miller. "From the bottom of my heart," it read, "THANK YOU!"

That was December 17. By December 19, the provision had been axed from the bill, after Musk went on an X rampage, tweeting that the bill was a Christmas tree that was antithetical to conservative, small-government ambitions and threatening the primary lawmakers who supported it.

#558 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 10:15 PM

-No matter how much you try you cannot make it true that I wanted kids to die.

One way to not receive such an accusation is to not actually say those things.

which you did....

#559 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:16 PM

You are scum, truthhurts. You really are.

#514 | Posted by boaz

Look in the mirror, dirtbag.

#560 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-09-10 10:16 PM

Yep 4 items for kids with cancer stripped from the bill by DOGE

Congrats magat scum parents with kids wih cancer

You ------ yourselves

#561 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-09-10 10:16 PM

- Corky while claiming religious is the evil Jesus talks about.

lmao!... Doublespeak from an ESL dropout.

- whoever restrains his lips is prudent

Perhaps you should restrain your tiny little Trump-like fingers.

#562 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-10 10:17 PM

-Corky while claiming religious is the evil Jesus talks about.

Corky isn't an anti-religious zealot..

we have plenty here and he challenges them from time to time.

#563 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:19 PM

I saw video of the when he was hit.

wow.....very graphic. not sure it was real.....

#564 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:27 PM

Enrique Tarrio is calling for war.

That weasel's (Stephen Miller) wife is crying out that the "left" has "called us Nazis, you called us racists!. You haveblood on your hands!"

"The Left is the party of murder," - Elon Musk

"It's time for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, & prosecute every single Leftist organization," tweeted far-right activist Laura Loomer. "If Charlie Kirk dies from his injuries, his life cannot be in vain. We must shut these lunatic leftists down. Once and for all."

"The left are evil murdering scum who kill people or let others kill people," tweeted far-right provocateur Andrew Tate. "THEY MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE."

Conservative social media personality Isabella Maria DeLuca similarly wrote, "We don't have a gun problem. We have a Democrat problem."

James Woods, an actor and Trump supporter, posted a photo of Kirk with the caption: "It's not gun violence. It's Democrat violence."

Right-wing podcast host Joey Mannarino called for the Democratic Party to be "classified as a domestic terror organization and their members & leaders treated accordingly."

"Democrats are the party of death and destruction," wrote the conservative political commentary duo the Hodgetwins.

"The left has declared LITERAL WAR on us. DEMOCRATS AND THEIR VlOLENT RHETORIC OWN THIS!" wrote pro-Trump journalist Nick Sortor, sharing a video of a man being detained, who Sortor claimed was the shooter"though it has since been reported that a suspect is not yet in custody.

www.yahoo.com

#565 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:28 PM

But isn't it too soon to politicize this? I mean - isn't that what we're constantly told?

#566 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:30 PM

Can you imagine if he ran for office? He would win in a landslide.

He had a decent shot at political office someday, but I wouldn't say he was guaranteed to win any political race "in a landslide." His rhetoric was preaching to the choir. If he had faced a general election there would have been a lot of voters seeing the harsh things he said for the first time. That often leads to defeat.

#567 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 10:31 PM

Are the MAGA ---------- in congress going to wear their AR-15 pins tomorrow?

#568 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 10:31 PM

I think that's why the left took him out.

#511 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Duhhhh ThE LeFtZ!!

STFU idiot.

#569 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 10:32 PM

seeing the harsh things he said for the first time

Bellringer might even be stunned!

#570 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:32 PM

565

and this is just the beginning.

wait until we have a suspect, learn more details, etc.

wait until we see his widow and kids over the next weeks.

it's going to get much worse.

#571 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:36 PM

Charlie Kirk Felled by Assassin

What is Charlie, a tree?

#572 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-09-10 10:38 PM

#571 - To be honest, it's terrifying.

#573 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:39 PM

#572. Good point
That would make more sense if he was fatally shot in his tibia.

#574 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:42 PM

State Representative Nick Freitas
#486 | Posted by boaz

#571 - To be honest, it's terrifying.
#573 | Posted by YAV

My sister, the one who didn't vote for Trump, posted theatscreed Boaz posted above on FB, which I find both terrifying and heartbreaking.

#575 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 10:44 PM

-But isn't it too soon to politicize this?

not for clown. as predicted, he's already suggesting Trump hired this guy to kill him.

#576 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:45 PM

That's the scenario I fear most.

#531 | Posted by BellRinger

Because the killer will get away?

Or because of the implications that he was assassinated by, most likely, the government or a corporation?

#577 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 10:47 PM

-Or because of the implications that he was assassinated by, most likely, the government or a corporation?

If we don't find the shooter.......who is in a position to suggest that?

#578 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:52 PM

#577 - Yep.
This certainly works for the MAGASphere and for Trump. He's having HUGE problems, HUGE. This definitely helps him a lot.
It certainly works against the Democratic Party and all sane, rational, people with normal to smaller amygdala and greater frontal lobes.

#579 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 10:52 PM

You're just a hateful punk begging for attention.

#538 | Posted by eberly

via GIPHY

#580 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 10:54 PM

#569 give him a break, he hasn't got his talking points memo to call them the "Radical Left" yet.

#581 | Posted by Chantresse at 2025-09-10 10:55 PM

580

Attacks more people than anyone.

But cries when gets punched in the face.

I don't hate on people. Nor do I have to make the most outrageous assertions to get responses.

All I did today was type a single word......and that was enough.

Twoothy could never do that. He has to go after them with hate and wish horrible things on them.

It gets you off, doesn't it?

#582 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 10:58 PM

I just saw this:

" FBI Director Kash Patel

@FBIDirectorKash

Follow
The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi.
We will provide updates when able."

#583 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 10:59 PM

Pretty likely a Trumper was the shooter in a false flag attack organized by a MAGA operative. Anything to get the narrative away from the Trump/Epstein pedophile connection, and back on to hating liberals and Dems.

#584 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-10 11:01 PM

#583 - FBI Director Kash Patel says the subject in custody in connection to the Charlie Kirk shooting has been released after an interrogation with law enforcement, in a post on X. NBC News' Kelly O'Donnell has the details.

So, no.

#585 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-10 11:01 PM

I find both terrifying and heartbreaking.
#575 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

You have no shame.

#586 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-10 11:02 PM

Patel is fucking up right and left.

drudge.com

#587 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 11:02 PM

-Pretty likely a Trumper was the shooter in a false flag attack organized by a MAGA operative

If that's true then the shooter is dead or will be dead very soon.

#588 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:09 PM

Some deranged Republifascist will probably attempt to take out a Commucrat in retaliation.

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

#589 | Posted by willowby at 2025-09-10 11:12 PM

well, we all know a civil conversation is way out of your league.

and you took it personal when I called anybody out for believe the trump assassination attempt was staged.

which you actually believe....and it pisses you off when you're reminded of that.

so......either stop believing such tripe or get over how ------ dumb you look for admitting it.

maybe just believe it in private.....and let it go.

#551 | Posted by eberly

LOL not a single bit of this is true.

You always have a lot of undue confidence in your delusions.

#590 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:16 PM

Video at link:

Denver Riggleman @denverr.bsky.social

I know it's late. Wanted to post a quick video about rage farming/mining and how sourcing is the key to balancing arguments in an emotional and propaganda fueled environment.

Today was a bad day.

bsky.app

#591 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 11:19 PM

I saw video of the when he was hit.

wow.....very graphic. not sure it was real.....

#564 | Posted by eberly

First time seeing what a bullet can do?

#592 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:19 PM

delusions only work if followed up with confidence

it's also how the truth works.

You can put down the rock and stop throwing them.

or keep throwing.......

what are we disagreeing about? do you even know?

I applauded RCADE for civil discourse. I didn't say jack to you nor about you.

but here you come with rocks........maybe be armed with a little more.

or discriminate a little more on what to argue with me about.

I have a gallon of woodford here.....

what do you want to move on to?

#593 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:22 PM

Today from Ezra Klein on the terrifying and contagious nature of political violence:

bsky.app

#594 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 11:23 PM

If we don't find the shooter.......who is in a position to suggest that?

#578 | Posted by eberly

It could have been an amateur who got lucky.

Seems unlikely.

A shooter with evasion training? Probably a small number of people with those skills.

Obviously, we'll never know but it suggests he crossed the wrong person or people.

#595 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:24 PM

" So, no.

#585 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-09-10 11:01 PM | REPLY"

His tweet was at 621 PM and the governor of Utah has also stated that they have the alleged shooter in custody.

#596 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 11:25 PM

BTW, NICE to see you posting, Gal! You bring some class to these pages.
#497 | Posted by Corky

Hi Corky. Good to see you too. Wish it was under better circumstances.

#597 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 11:26 PM

" Pretty likely a Trumper was the shooter in a false flag attack organized by a MAGA operative"

While anything is possible and we don't have the facts yet, that scenario is highly unlikely.

#598 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 11:27 PM

Attacks more people than anyone.

But cries when gets punched in the face.

LOL more delusions.

via GIPHY

#599 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:27 PM

by "amateur" you mean someone not hired by Trump?

because that's the distinction being made by moder8 and some others.

#600 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:27 PM

" Today from Ezra Klein on the terrifying and contagious nature of political violence:
bsky.app

#594 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2025-09-10 11:23 PM | FLAG: "

Ezra Klein had some seriously glaring omissions on that list.

#601 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 11:29 PM

manhunt for shooter still ongoing
By Kathryn Watson, Joe Walsh, Melissa Quinn
Updated on: September 10, 2025 / 10:59 PM EDT

www.cbsnews.com

Shooter is NOT in custody.

#602 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-10 11:30 PM

Ezra Klein's list is all true.

And it's worth pointing out because it's an unacceptable reality.

#603 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:31 PM

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

#589 | Posted by willowby

One ping only, Vasily.

#604 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:32 PM

First time seeing what a bullet can do?

#592 | Posted by jpw

Hold on......is a threat?

#605 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:32 PM

I applauded RCADE for civil discourse.

Condescendingly.

As if you were attempting it but were being denied by the rest of us...

When you've done nothing but troll a thread on a serious and likely historically pivotal topic.

#606 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:34 PM

I have a gallon of woodford here.....

what do you want to move on to?

#593 | Posted by eberly

LOL

#607 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:35 PM

His tweet was at 621 PM and the governor of Utah has also stated that they have the alleged shooter in custody.

Incorrect. Authorities have confirmed there is no shooter in custody.
'
Salt Lake City Tribune as of 11:14 p.m. Eastern:

"A search is ongoing as Utah state law enforcement officials confirmed late Wednesday that no suspected shooter was in custody after political commentator Charlie Kirk was fatally shot Wednesday afternoon on Utah Valley University's campus. Two people were initially taken into custody, according to a Utah Department of Public Safety news release, but "there are no current ties to the shooting with either of these individuals," the release said."

www.sltrib.com

#608 | Posted by rcade at 2025-09-10 11:38 PM

Ezra Klein had some seriously glaring omissions on that list.
#601 | Posted by BellRinger

I don't think he meant it to be comprehensive. The last two paragraphs are the main point.

#609 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-09-10 11:39 PM

-Condescendingly.

yes. But you weren't mentioned.

You can't help to respond because you agree you're guilty of exactly what I'm accusing you of....without even mentioning you.

I work in broad strokes. I managed many of you this night very efficiently.

You all, like the self-righteous zealots you are, did exactly what I knew you'd do.

justify your anger and vitriol.

#610 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:41 PM

I'm surprised Trump didn't have Kirkland pushed out of a window like his BFF usually does. This reeks of a right wing false flag operation to deflect attention.

#611 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-10 11:41 PM

by "amateur" you mean someone not hired by Trump?

because that's the distinction being made by moder8 and some others.

#600 | Posted by eberly

No.

Amateur meaning someone without formal training (be it military, intelligence agency ect) who spent enough time on a range to make the shot.

The neck hit was probably luck, or more accurately, unintentional. Fun fact, when shooting at a downward angle, point of impact is higher than point of aim. Given what info has been released and the maps of the campus, I think it's a good guess that the impact in the neck was because of the downward trajectory of a shot aimed at center mass.

So there's nothing surprising about the shot itself.

But the ability to make the shot on the first round along with the evasion and apparent near lack of evidence left (always possibility it's just not been released to the press...).

To me it says someone who knew what they were doing on multiple levels.

#612 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:43 PM

First time seeing what a bullet can do?

#592 | Posted by jpw

Hold on......is a threat?

#605 | Posted by eberly

You should hold off on the whiskey if you took that for a threat.

#613 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:45 PM

" Shooter is NOT in custody.

#602 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2025-09-10 11:30 PM | REPLY"

CNN is reporting that the FBI interrogated 2 suspects and released them both.

#614 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-10 11:46 PM

yes. But you weren't mentioned.

Ahhhh yes the "I wasn't talking to you" response on a public messaging board. Always a winner.

justify your anger and vitriol.

#610 | Posted by eberly

Who exactly, do I have anger and vitriol towards that I feel the need to justify?

#615 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-10 11:47 PM

-Who exactly, do I have anger and vitriol towards that I feel the need to justify?

literally anybody that's disagreed with you on anything.

doesn't matter the subject. You're equally passionately enraged no matter the subject.

#616 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:51 PM

what are we arguing about?

#617 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:52 PM

It is also amusing, in an ironic way to see the MAGAts playing the role of "victim" for a change. After all the violent authoritarian efforts they have made to attack ordinary Americans via government abuse of Executive power since Trump's first day in office.

#618 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-09-10 11:52 PM

-You should hold off on the whiskey if you took that for a threat.

If I thought it was a threat, then I would have declared it a threat.

I wouldn't have put a ? at the end of that sentence.

You should attend rehab until you learn what a ? means.

#619 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-10 11:54 PM

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