Haha ... MAGAdiots on the DR are with Larry:

" DO NOT REPEAT THIS INSIGHT"

The Evangelical pedofascists don't believe in due process or habeas corpus, so it is unsurprising that you'd get a comment like #73 - not knowing the difference between representing a defandant who is a pedophile vs. defending pedophilia.

MSNBC - Epstein emails
CNN - Epstein emails
FOX "news" - Venezuela, UC San Diego report on declining math skills, Harvard struggling to address grade inflation, Congressman Van Orden riding his motorcycle to DC...

Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mara-lago years before Epstein's arrest.

The dates of the emails between Epstein and Maxwell tell a story that conflicts with this assertion - FDT didn't tell Epstein to stop, he told Maxwell to stop. They were in touch when FDT alleges they were not ...

The dog who never barked is from Sherlock Holmes - about the dog not barking when it should have, if the dog did not know the perpetrator of the crime:

Gregory (Scotland Yard detective): Is there any other point to which you would wish to draw my attention?
Holmes: To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.
Gregory: The dog did nothing in the night-time.
Holmes: That was the curious incident.

It sure looks like the rapist felon knew about all of it, keeping his wonderful secrets...

Criticizing someone who objectively reads the emails between sex traffickers and doesn't automatically think, "These are pedophiles, so we can't believe ANYTHING they said to each other," is a pretty clear indicator of how deeply embedded the pedofascists of the DR are in the cult of FDT.

Grijalva just started the timer on releasing the files. The House must vote on it in a week. Gonna be a dangerous week: a cornered narcissist with the nuclear codes and a bunch of Navy ships off the coast of Venezuela is wild. Who knows what he'll do in his panicked state of mind?

Shorter Eberly:

There's no evidence that FDT is in the Epstein files.
FDT's efforts to keep the evidence from the public is merely a sign that he is innocent.
These new bits of evidence aren't credible because they were written by liars and pedophiles.
Ergo, there is zero evidence connecting FDT to Epstein.
LOL

Unlike the Evangelical pedofascists in the MAGA cult, those of us not in the cult are absolutely OK with prosecuting Clinton if he was guilty of raping kids.

That these MAGAdiots think along these lines is telling. Whataboutism on steroids, but still defending the Orange pedo rabidly. Wild.

Repubicans have voted every time to prevent the release of the files.

Democrats have voted every time to release THEM ALL.

Please walk us through how this proves that the Democrats are protecting Bill Clinton. We'll wait.

CLOWNSHACK,

FDT doesn't use email, so you won't find emails between the two. He operates like a mob boss, there will never be an email trail to follow. Otherwise, your points are valid.

The materials, photos, videos, accounts, testimony ... all of it must be mind-blowingly horrible.

But so what?

Only you can answer that question for yourself. You're the one choosing this hill to make your stand, and it explains a lot about you.

I asked for evidence and an email from a Dead guy is what we have so far.

You have access to all the evidence we do.
Convicted felon.
Can't run a charity.
Lost multiple appeals on his sexual assault case.
Bragged about grabbing women by the ----- like it was a common thing.
Bragged about walking in on teenaged beauty contestants, because he could.
Told a 10 year-old girl he'd be dating her in 10 years.
Repeatedly commented about how his daughter was voluptuous and hot and he'd date her if he wasn't her dad.
Hundreds of pictures of the two of them together.
Is fighting tooth and nail to keep the Epstein files out of the public sphere.
28 credible accusations of sexual misconduct.

and on ...

But sure, you keep toeing the line like a good Repubic ... I mean, I guess, Democrat?

Was he friends with Epstein and knew exactly what he was doing...and probably thought it was wild fun. Absolutely.

That right there is enough ...

#178

Excellent demonstration of sealioning. Bravo!

#184

What doesn't matter? You being a sea lion troll? Or you pretending you're not MAGA?

-What doesn't matter?

That Trump actually raped underage girls.

You don't care if he did it or not.
#189 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Ah, You're serving up a straw man with a side of sea lion. Got it. How many more logical fallacies will you grace us with in this matter?

We know FDT is a rapist. We know he perved on teenage girls. We know his best friend for 15 years was a------------. We know he is doing everything in his power to avoid the evidence coming out. If he is innocent, he would logically want the evidence proving his innocence to come out.

I want the remaining, living victims of Epstein and Maxwell to see justice served to their attackers. FDT is, at the very least, complicit. That alone is enough for me ... knowing that kids were being raped and trafficked and looking the other way, or actively protecting the rapists, and the johns that they trafficked to, is just as bad, IMO. Catch em all and lock em up. If Bill Clinton is among them, lock his ass up, too.

Jeffrey Epstein on Donald Trump: "He feels alone and is nuts!!! I told everyone from day one. Evil beyond belief. Mad, and most thought I was speaking metaphorically. It's obvious he could crack. Stormy Daniels? Lies after lies after lies."

i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump. VICTIM spent hours at my house with him , he has never once been
mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there - JE

I have been thinking about that ... - GM

"Of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop," - JE

"I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that, when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime." - Michael Wolff

Oh, that's what you're on about?

It's all, like, my opinion, man.

You think I'm commenting on this blog as a legal scholar or something? WTF's wrong with you? Your completely useless argument makes some sense in that context, but maybe you should reconsider taking your meds again.

All I served up are facts.

Really? Help us all out here an give us the bullet list of facts you served up in this thread.

Hell, just give us 3 facts, if more it too difficult.

You're arguing with yourself in your own head now. Lay out the facts, one sentence each is fine. We don't need any details...

Fine but you've tried selling it as more.

Maybe qualify is as such earlier next time, little fella.

I'm not selling ----, but you sure are working hard to make up the straw man that you can valiantly take down.

All of this is serious, except maybe to you pedoclowns. Keep defending your felonious rapist, and going off on tangents when your fee-fees get hurt or you think you've isolated a gotcha moment, LOL.

I'm on the right side of this issue. The way you're arguing sure does point to how you condone all the horrible things your idol has done. You enjoy cruelty and suffering, but choose to camouflage it with your rhetoric.

I look forward to more revelations- there are 20,000 emails, and more evidence will come out, now that the cat's out of the bag for drumpty. It will be a refreshing change to watch you pivot. Since none of you sociopaths can ever admit you're wrong about anything, we'll be unsurprised when you refuse to accept reality again.

But if all you have is that worthless accusation?

There's that isolated gotcha argument again. What you're doing isn't -------------, it's making up arguments in your head and attributing them to me. Typical not-liberal clown arguments. Pointless.

Upthread, I asked you to bullet-point a few of the "facts" you were "serving." Please give us that list. It will be easy, just scroll up to the top and shoot us a summary of what it is you're trying to say. It's getting too difficult to interpret whatever it is you think you're saying.

I think it's appropriate to admit that, technically, FDT is NOT a pedophile. He's actually an ephebophile (although saying that he'll be dating a 10 year old in 10 years might be an indicator that I'm wrong here). We all understand the broad usage of the term, "pedophile," so we use it in arguments, and everyone knows what it means, despite it being technically an incorrect term. If this is too complicated for you, don't worry about it.

,,,you're really just desiring a certain outcome. not just the release of the files but rather what's in the files...You want the content to include specifics of your choosing. IN the meantime, you'll continue to assert you KNOW what's in the files.

Literally none of this is accurate. Completely made up in your own head.

A straw man fallacy is a type of argument where someone misrepresents or exaggerates another person's argument to make it easier to attack. Instead of addressing the actual argument, they argue against this distorted version, creating the illusion of having refuted the original point."

Sealioning:

From Wikipedia:

The sealioner feigns ignorance and politeness while making relentless demands for answers and evidence (while often ignoring or sidestepping any evidence the target has already presented), under the guise of "just trying to have a debate",[5][6][8][11] so that when the target is eventually provoked into an angry response, the sealioner can act as the aggrieved party, and the target presented as closed-minded and unreasonable.

"I don't think believing a pedo makes you a pedo defender."

"The evidence made public so far consists of what? Upthread it was said it was a few emails that exonerated Trump more or less. I'm guessing there is much much more that's public. What is the evidence?"

"Do you need more evidence? No. Not really."

"I asked for evidence and an email from a Dead guy is what we have so far."

"What doesn't matter? That Trump actually raped underage girls."

Sure, release the "files".

And they took a step toward doing that today. A vote will probably be made next week, then we will see exactly who is blocking what.

#252 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Hahaha, 100% Repubeiclown refusal to release the files. 100% Democratic votes in favor of releasing them all.

We already know who's blocking what. They pulled Boebert into a SCIF so that she couldn't record them, pressuring her to change her vote on releasing the files, LOL.

Boaz the cL0wN strikes again!

#268

Another straw man. We're discussing the circumstances around the files not being released. We're reading the emails that paint a picture. We know there is more to come. This is more of a political issue, none of us expects the Supreme Court or the Repubiclown Congress to do anything but defend the pedo.

We watched the Repubicans let him get away with a coup attempt. We watched the SCOTUS grant him immunity. We watched the MAGA base elect a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist. Just because you have fee-fees about your requirements for absolutely unimpeachable evidence and proof and a desire to see him lose in court doesn't mean we can't have opinions about how wretched he is, and how wretched his base is. You're arguing with yourself again.

Sex pest Ken Starr resigned from Baylor for mishandling sexual assault allegation.
Newt Gingrich was cheating on his wife during the Clinton impeachment.
Dennis Hastert was sent to prison for his role in sexually assaulting boys as a wrestling coach. He was Speaker of the House from '99-'07.
Jim Jordan, a sitting Congressman on multiple committees has been accused of covering up sexual assault at Ohio State.
Matt Gaetz got away with whatever he did with that 17 year old girl on technicalities.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. is a heroin addict, who cheated on his wife.
Pete Hegseth, an alcoholic, has been accused of sexual assault.
Pam Bondi was AG when Epstein got away from accountability in Florida.
Alex Acosta was awarded a cabinet position in 2017 after getting Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal in 2008.
Brett Kavanaugh was not investigated by the FBI after being credibly accused of rape by Blasey Ford, and is now in a lifetime position in the SCOTUS.
Clarence Thomas sexually harassed Anita Hill, and sits in a lifetime position in the SCOTUS.

Birds of a feather...

Nowhere did Megyn Kelly say any of this was "not okay," either.

What I want to know is why all these Evangelical pedofascists are so obsessed with sex. Where people pee. Who they marry. Why it's important to provide cover to serial rapists. All the creepers in the clergy. All the rapists in gyms. Obsession with couches. The quiverfull movement.

Some family values party you have there ... and the cult leader himself is their idea of greatness.

So many weirdos, so much creeper energy.

... overwhelming Grindr during their conventions and White Supremacist memorials ...

Larry Summers is in a lot of the Epstein emails, a Clinton and Obama economic advisor. It's not surprising Epstein was in the Clinton orbit, given this connection.

Locker room talk:

Unknown: "She used to be great, she's still very beautiful."

Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and f--k her, she was married."

Unknown: "That's huge news there."

Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony ---- and everything. She's totally changed her look."
Bush: "Your girl's hot as ----. In the purple."

Multiple voices: "Whoah. Yes. Whoah."

Bush: "Yes. The Donald has scored. Whoah my man."

Trump: "Look at you. You are a p--sy."

Bush: "You gotta get the thumbs up."

Trump: "Maybe it's a different one."

Bush: "It better not be the publicist. No, it's, it's her."

Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

Bush: "Whatever you want."

Trump: "Grab them by the p--sy. You can do anything."

Bush: "Yeah those legs. All I can see is the legs."

Trump: "It looks good."

Bush: "Come on shorty."

Trump: "Oh nice legs huh."

Bush: "Get out of the way honey. Oh that's good legs. Go ahead."

Trump: "It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?"
[As Mr Trump attempts to leave the vehicle he struggles with the door]

Bush: "Down below, pull the handle."
[Mr Trump exits the bus and greets actress Arianne Zucker]

Trump: "Hello, how are you? Hi."

Zucker: "Hi Mr Trump. How are you?"

Trump: "Nice seeing you. Terrific. Terrific. You know Billy Bush?"

Bush: "Hello nice to see you. How are you doing Arianne?"

Zucker: "I'm doing very well thank you. [Addressing Trump] Are you ready to be a soap star?"

Trump: "We're ready. Let's go. Make me a soap star."

Bush: "How about a little hug for the Donald, he's just off the bus?"

Zucker: "Would you like a little hug darling?"

Trump: "Absolutely. Melania said this was okay."

Bush: "How about a little hug for the Bushy, I just got off the bus? Here we go, here we go. Excellent."
[Mr Bush gesticulates towards Ms Zucker as he turns to Mr PO1135809]

Bush: "Well you've got a good co-star here."

Trump: "Good. After you. Come on Billy, don't be shy."

Bush: "Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens."

Trump: "Get over here, Billy."

Zucker: "I'm sorry, come here."

Bush: "Let the little guy in there. Come on."

Zucker: "Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now, better? I should actually be in the middle."

Bush: "It's hard to walk next to a guy like this."

Zucker: "Wait. Hold on."
[Ms Zucker changes position and walks between the two men]

Bush: "Yeah you get in the middle. There we go."

Trump: "Good. That's better."

Zucker: "This is much better."

Trump: "That's better."

Bush: "Now if you had to choose, honestly, between one of us. Me or the Donald, who would it be?"

Trump: "I don't know, that's tough competition."

Zucker: "That's some pressure right there."

Bush: "Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date."

Zucker: "I have to take the Fifth [Amendment of the US Constitution] on that one."

Bush: "Really?"

Zucker: "Yep. I'll take both."
[They reach the end of the corridor]

Trump: "Which way?"

Zucker: "Make a right. Here we go."

Bush: "Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone."

Trump: "Okay. Okay. Oh, you're finished?"

Bush: "You're my man. Yeah."

Trump: "Oh. Good."