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In a message obtained by Congress, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein wrote that Donald J. Trump spent hours at his house with one of Mr. Epstein's victims.

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Jeffrey Epstein, two days after Michael Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018: "you see, i know how dirty donald is. my guess is that non lawyers ny biz people have no idea. what it means to have your fixer flip"[image or embed]

" Molly Crane-Newman (@mollycranenewman.bsky.social) Nov 12, 2025 at 12:07 PM

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"Release the Amelia Earhart files! Argh! Jimmy Hoffa stuff! Blargh! Anything juicy from CIA about UFOs or Bigfoot? Gargh!"

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-12 09:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I want you to realize that dog that hasn't barked is Trump. spent hours at my house with him." - Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell
"He (Trump) knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop". _ Epstein to Michael Wolff

Epstein's own emails show Trump is lying. RELEASE THE FILES. Expose the cabal of sex traffickers who fill the American halls of power.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-12 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2,

The House will vote on it, maybe today, but it'll never get through the Senate. As long as Trump has a stranglehold on the GOP we'll never see those files.

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2025-11-12 09:57 AM | Reply

"If we were to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be?" Epstein replied.

"I think you should let him hang himself," Wolff replied the next day.

"If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that, when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime."

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/house-democrats-release-new-epstein-emails-referencing-trump/ story?id=127435983">abcnews.go.com

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/house-democrats-release-new-epstein-emails-referencing-trump/
story?id=127435983">abcnews.go.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 10:46 AM | Reply

Of course trump knew. He was stupid and arrogant enough to run on releasing Epstein material because he has been untouchable his entire life.

He just got touched.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-12 10:46 AM | Reply

No we wonder Epstein was murdered in his cell.

Anyone know where Rudy was that night?

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 10:52 AM | Reply

"This is the last straw! I'm done with Trump and will never respond to this again!"

- signed Bill'sJohnson.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 11:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#2,
The House will vote on it, maybe today, but it'll never get through the Senate. As long as Trump has a stranglehold on the GOP we'll never see those files.

#3 | Posted by qcp

People don't understand the basic operations of our government

Sure this gets a vote in the house

It may even get a vote in the senate

It may even pass both houses

Then where does it go?

To the president's desk

Anyone think he will sign a bill requiring the release of the Epstein files?

Ok, well there is the veto override

2/3 of each house going to vote to release them?
||
LOL

what a waste of breath

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-12 11:02 AM | Reply

Epstein Files are About to Spill Into Open: Michael Wolff | Inside Trump's Head - The Daily Beast

www.youtube.com

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 11:24 AM | Reply

Read the emails:

www.usatoday.com

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 11:32 AM | Reply

Ok, this makes Trump look bad..

My question is, according to some things I have seen, the victim that was redacted was the one who killed herself. She is on record as saying Trump did nothing to her.

Is there anything there? And why are we going to just automatically take Epstein's word for anything. He was conspiring with Wolf to blackmail Trump.

It really shows what type of man Epstein was and makes you wonder why anyone would even deal with him in the first place.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 11:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

- why anyone would even deal with him in the first place.

That's Trump's Best Friend and Wingman you are talking about... do you need to again see the Birthday Card Trump sent him about their "Wonderful Secret"?

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

My question is, according to some things I have seen, the victim that was redacted was the one who killed herself. She is on record as saying Trump did nothing to her.

Epstein has over 1,000 victims

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-12 11:58 AM | Reply

do you need to again see the Birthday Card Trump sent him about their "Wonderful Secret"?

Nah, I dont believe that. Trump got rid of him for some reason.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Epstein has over 1,000 victims

So?

The one redacted is what I'm talking about.

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@stevehofsetter

MAGA would be so upset if an email came out that proved Trump helped Epstein cover up the systematic rape of children.

Oh, that happened this morning and they don't care? Weird.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 12:27 PM | Reply

It really shows what type of man Epstein was and makes you wonder why anyone would even deal with him in the first place.
#12 | Posted by boaz

Trump's birthday card to Epstein tells you why Trump was friends with Epstein.
If you can't figure it out, it's because you're dumber than a box of rocks.
So I'll tell you. They both liked to fuck teenage girls.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-12 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Trump normalized pedophilia.

Republicans couldn't care less how many underaged girls Trump defiled and desecrated.

Most republicans would hand over their 13 year old daughter to Trump as tribute.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 12:29 PM | Reply

Most republicans would hand over their 13 year old daughter to Trump as tribute.
#19 | Posted by ClownShack

While saying "Hey, it's not ideal, but my daughter will gain valuable executive experience, and at least Trump isn't gay!"

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-12 12:30 PM | Reply

-Most republicans would hand over their 13 year old daughter to Trump as tribute.

Are you participating in some sort of drama contest? If so, then fine....continue.....but there is no way you're serious.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2025-11-12 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

proved Trump helped Epstein cover up the systematic rape of children.

What? Where the fuck are you getting THAT? You people really are going off the deep end..

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 12:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Someone I don't know, never heard of, wouldn't recognize in a lineup came up to me on bended knee, cheeseburglar in hand, and roared, "Sirrrrrrrrrrrr! Mr. Trump spent time with that underage female type human person, but only to teach her how to play the piano. Specifically, Nearer My God To Thee.' Thank you and retrospectively submitted,
~ John Barrrron

#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 12:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

If so, then fine....continue.....but there is no way you're serious.
#21 | Posted by eberly

MAGA women wearing "Trump can grab my p---y" shirts weren't being serious?
www.redbubble.com

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-12 12:45 PM | Reply

Per the article:

April 2011
EPSTEIN TO MAXWELL: "I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump." He added that an unnamed victim "spent hours at my house with him ... he has never once been mentioned."
MAXWELL TO EPSTEIN: "I have been thinking about that."

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 12:47 PM | Reply

Only a maggot fool can continue to deny to themselves that Trump is a pedophile. How much more obvious can it get? One of the saddest phenomena I have ever witnessed.

#26 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 12:48 PM | Reply

Perhaps Boaz doesn't agree that having sex with underage girls is the same thing as pedophilia.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-12 12:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now we have a better idea who may have been the mysterious person behind the very unusual circumstances of Epstein's so called suicide and it wasn't Hillary.

#28 | Posted by path at 2025-11-12 12:52 PM | Reply

You guys know you are inferring he had sex. Nothing in any of that specifically said Trump was banging kids.

Until the person who was actually in the room with Trump comes in and says "Yes, he fucked me", it's only hearsay and Epstein's and Maxwell's word.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 01:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"She is on record as saying Trump did nothing to her."

And so then she killed herself?

It's gonna make a great episode of Murder She Wrote.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 01:08 PM | Reply

You guys know you are inferring he had sex. Nothing in any of that specifically said Trump was banging kids.

Ok. You tell us.

What else could she possibly be doing for hours with someone (who was hired specifically to be a masseuse). In Epstein's home?

This should be good for a few good laughs.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 01:14 PM | Reply

All the files need to be released. Not a few, but all. Again, the reactions cause a lot of problems with any release.

Where's the physical evidence? As much as emails are there, it's not enough.

Been on a jury. To convict, there has to be more.

Who cares which party. Considering the royalty overseas already sees the potential fallout, this isn't isolated to a few.

Where is all the evidence of the DC Madam? JFK and RFK.

Damn, who is being protected after 70 years?

With leaks like this,hopefully more will spill on all the rest, and finally it all comes out.

Doubt it... emails is crumbs.

#32 | Posted by Petrous at 2025-11-12 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's the context here?

What's the link to NYTimes?

All the files need to be released

You'll never know, if all are released or not.

What else could she possibly be doing for hours with someone (who was hired specifically to be a masseuse). In Epstein's home?
- donorbot

Who is she? Maxwell?

#33 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 01:22 PM | Reply

Who is she? Maxwell?

#33 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

"She" is Virginia Giuffre.

Do try and keep up commie spy.

West Australia police said they were called to a home in the Neergabby area on Friday night, where Ms Giuffre was found unresponsive.

A statement continued: "The death is being investigated by Major Crime detectives; early indication is the death is not suspicious."

More Than Two Dozen People Linked to Jeffrey Epstein Have Died Under Mysterious Circumstances

Nope. Not suspicious at all! Just "mysterious".

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 01:28 PM | Reply

Link for 34

www.bbc.com

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 01:29 PM | Reply

Only a maggot fool can continue to deny to themselves that Trump is a pedophile. How much more obvious can it get? One of the saddest phenomena I have ever witnessed.

#26 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Sure, based on these emails? And only a cross dressing fool like you would believe that Trump's opponents, who had the files for 4 years wouldn't have leaked some proof instead of trying to keep him off the ballots, trying to bankrupt him, trying to jail him and then trying to kill him.
And btw you thought it was cute when Biden sucked baby toes, sniffed little girls hair and then took "inappropriate" showers with his daughter, according to her.

#36 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 01:31 PM | Reply

You guys know you are inferring he had sex. Nothing in any of that specifically said Trump was banging kids.

Until the person who was actually in the room with Trump comes in and says "Yes, he fucked me", it's only hearsay and Epstein's and Maxwell's word.

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2025-11-12 01:04 PM


Personally, I think Trump spent hours with that girl either helping with her quantum physics homework or advising how to improve her lipping technique on the Peruvian ocarina.

#37 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

From the emails:

"Trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever," Epstein wrote in a 2019 email to Michael Wolff, an apparent plea from the president for Epstein to leave Trump's Mar-a-Lago club. "[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop."
www.politico.com

#38 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 01:46 PM | Reply

What else could she possibly be doing for hours with someone (who was hired specifically to be a masseuse).

Objection: Speculation

Which is why we need the person in the room to come forward and say what was going on. Otherwise, there is no proof. Only a liberal like you who is wanting Trump to go down.

#39 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 01:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop."

Stop what?

No context here.

#40 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 01:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

You guys know you are inferring he had sex. Nothing in any of that specifically said Trump was banging kids.
Until the person who was actually in the room with Trump comes in and says "Yes, he fucked me", it's only hearsay and Epstein's and Maxwell's word.
#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2025-11-12 01:04 PM

Would it matter to you if they did come in and say it? I recall a time when you said you'd no longer support Trump if he put our security at risk and messed with the Joint Chiefs. He's definitely done that and you still defend him. You still support him after a jury that he helped select found he sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll.
I suspect you'd still support him if he held an event where he walks into an 8th grade classroom while covered in McDonald's special sauce and instructs the students to start licking.
Your tolerance for his depravity knows no limit.

#41 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-12 01:52 PM | Reply


www.newsweek.com

... Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released a second tranche of emails on Wednesday, including communications between Jeffrey Epstein, Steve Bannon and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. ...

#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-12 01:55 PM | Reply

Stop what?
No context here.

#40 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 01:51 PM | Reply

Sure, if you ignore the established facts that Epstein was running an international pedophile ring and Maxwell was pimping for him.

Other than that, it's a complete question mark.

#43 | Posted by anton at 2025-11-12 01:56 PM | Reply

"[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop."
Stop what?
No context here.
#40 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Probably refers to her eating too many stone crab claws at the buffet. That or her endless pro-windmill tirades poolside.

#44 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump 'himself' calling Boebert and Mace to meet over 'concerns around the Epstein saga'

www.alternet.org

The orange child rapist is desperate.

#45 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of all the many people who have claimed that they know Trump to be a pedophile, how is it that the only person the maggots choose to believe is the pedophile himself, who has the strongest incentive of anyone to lie? It is undisputed Trump has been to Epstein's Pedophile Island on numerous occasions. It is undisputed that Trump and Epstein were best friend for many years. It is undisputed Trump has no qualms about extra-marital sex. It is undisputed he sent a sexual/pornographic birthday card to Epstein. It is undisputed that Trump has bribed many women to keep quiet about his sexual behavior, and used his enforcers to either threaten or bury other sexual escapades. It is undisputed that Epstein died under the most suspicious circumstances imaginable while in jail, and mysteriously the jail footage of the time period when the "suicide" occurred has gone missing ... . And was just weeks after another so-called "suicide" attempt that occurred again under similar circumstances. To say nothing of all those photos of Trump and Epstein partying it up together."@@ AND we have Epstein's emails themselves which make Trump's pedohilia obvious to honest observer.

In the criminal system, it is known as the totality of the circumstances analysis. Short of a confession by the perpetrator, it is the most commons means to conviction at a jury trial.

#46 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And Boaz, you are nothing more than a pathetic partisan maggot. Your lies mean less than nothing.

#47 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 02:00 PM | Reply

Sure, based on these emails? And only a cross dressing fool like you would believe that Trump's opponents, who had the files for 4 years wouldn't have leaked some proof instead of trying to keep him off the ballots, trying to bankrupt him, trying to jail him and then trying to kill him.
And btw you thought it was cute when Biden sucked baby toes, sniffed little girls hair and then took "inappropriate" showers with his daughter, according to her.

#36 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's the perennial favorite, "If Trump had done anything wrong then the radical leftists in the Deep State would have already leaked it" defense.
Yes, of course. "They" were all out to get him, but the best "they" could do was nip off a little piece of his ear cartilage.
And, then we get the whataboutism, of course.

Do you ever get tired of kissing that big, flabby orange butt?

#48 | Posted by anton at 2025-11-12 02:02 PM | Reply

Objection: Speculation
#39 | POSTED BY BOAZ

You've either been watching those Night Court late night reruns again or raising the bar by taking in a couple of Perry Mason episodes. (Hint if you're going down that road: Hamilton Burger never gets it right. Ever.)

#49 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-11-12 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

messed with the Joint Chiefs

"Messed"? WTF are you talking about. Every Chief has the right to put his military heads in place. I've told you that.

he helped select found he sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll.

Not a criminal trial. If he sexually assaulted her, he would have gotten a trial.

Your tolerance for his depravity knows no limit.

I've seen no smoking gun, only inuendo's from liberals.

But I am interested.

#50 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 02:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#47 | Posted by moder8

Go fuck yourself, Moder8

Dont you have a black Democrat to plead out to jail today?

#51 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 02:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

And you Moder8, Are the LAST person any of us would take law advice from....LOL

#52 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 02:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

And since yall are beating on Trump so much..

Can any of you replace the word CLINTON with Trump?

What do yall think of that?

#53 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 02:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Have them ask my houseman about the orange child rapist almost walking through the door leaving his nose print on the glass as young women were swimming in the pool and he was so focused he walked straight into the door."

~ Jeffrey Epstein ~

politicalwire.com

#54 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:10 PM | Reply

based on these emails?

What's funny is Republicans, like FishPawn, won't believe actual, factual emails.

But that smoking gun email about Hunter Biden that nobody could find or prove existed, Republicans, like FishPawn, couldn't shut up about it for four years.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What do yall think of that?
#53 | POSTED BY BOAZ

I think you're in full pedophile protection mode.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Oh no ... not the dreaded Bill Clinton deflection! LOL

#57 | Posted by anton at 2025-11-12 02:16 PM | Reply

Posted by boaz

This idiot is fuggin' hilarious.

Wake up, you fuggin' moron.

#58 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-12 02:19 PM | Reply

Wretched are the excuse-makers, for they shall inherit the worst.

#59 | Posted by cbob at 2025-11-12 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I've seen no smoking gun,

Why is Maxwell in prison?

Why was Prince Andrew stripped of his title?

Why has Trump blocked the files release?

#60 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-12 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Ramps Up Pressure on G.O.P. To Thwart Epstein Vote

www.nytimes.com

This proves pedo 47's innocence.

~ boazo ~

#61 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:29 PM | Reply

"[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop."
Stop what?
No context here.

#40 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Trump told her to stop, Clinton told her more, more, more, but Trump is the problem.

#62 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 02:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Trump rapes 13 year olds who resemble Ivanka.

#63 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:33 PM | Reply

Why was Prince Andrew stripped of his title?

#60 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-12 02:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

King Charles is too woke!

#64 | Posted by anton at 2025-11-12 02:33 PM | Reply

Evade regularly blocks the posts of global warming deniers as being obviously false and also harmful in their own right. What will it take to get Rcade to block the posts of Trump Pedophilia deniers for the exact same reasons?

#65 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 02:34 PM | Reply

Trump told her to stop, Clinton told her more, more, more, but Trump is the problem.

#62 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

You do realize there can be more than one "problem", correct?

#66 | Posted by anton at 2025-11-12 02:35 PM | Reply

based on these emails?
What's funny is Republicans, like FishPawn, won't believe actual, factual emails.
But that smoking gun email about Hunter Biden that nobody could find or prove existed, Republicans, like FishPawn, couldn't shut up about it for four years.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 02:12 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Actual, factual emails related to Hunter? Why would I believe them? You told us they were all written by Russians. You f-ing stooge.
And are you talking about the email where Hunter was bitching about having to pays Joe $50k a month in rent? "Nothing to see here."

#67 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 02:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#67 | Posted by fishpaw

Yer an idiot, fish-boy.

And, a stupid one, at that....

#68 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-12 02:42 PM | Reply

Trumpstein's greatest hits.

cdn.factcheck.org

#69 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So let me get this straight.

The victim mentioned in the email we all worked up about, but is redacted, is Virginia Giuffre, who already testified in a 2016 deposition that Trump "never participated in anything" and that she never witnessed him being inappropriate.

Also other emails confirms what was already known, that Trump told Ghislaine Maxwell to stop trying to recruit Mar-a-Lago employees and kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of the club for trying to seduce a member of the Mara-Largo staff.

Thats it? Thats what all this is about?

LOL A bowl of nothing.

#70 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Clinton told her more, more, more..."

Was there a 'rebel yell' involved?

#71 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-12 02:45 PM | Reply


"[O]f course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop."
Stop what?
No context here.

#40 | Posted by boaz

Stop recruiting Trumps staff at MaraLargo.

#72 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 02:45 PM | Reply

What will it take to get Rcade to block the posts of Trump Pedophilia deniers for the exact same reasons?
~ Moder8

Where's the proof? Also weren't you a pedophilia defender in LA?

#73 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 02:46 PM | Reply

IAMRUNT spends 60 hours a week simping for a child rapist.

#74 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:48 PM | Reply

MAGA filth, why is the orange child rapist pressuring Boebert and Mace to remove their names from the Epstein petition?

#75 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 02:51 PM | Reply

Haha ... MAGAdiots on the DR are with Larry:

" DO NOT REPEAT THIS INSIGHT"

#76 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-11-12 02:52 PM | Reply

MAGA filth, why is the orange child rapist pressuring Boebert and Mace to remove their names from the Epstein petition?

#75 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Yes. An interesting point to be made to someone who believes that the Epstein Files are redacted into uselessness.

I think that the problem is that that at least portions of those files are held by other parties. Including the Democrats, as witness today's events.

A highly redacted document may well be opposed by one not as much.

#77 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-12 02:56 PM | Reply

Even if we disregard the Epstein files and the many other allegations, it's been well-known that Trump is a sick @#$% since at least the pussy tapes. How anyone can defend him is beyond me.

#78 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-11-12 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump appears to be terrified.

Maybe it will push his mind and/or body over the edge.

That will be a good day.

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-12 02:58 PM | Reply

let me get this straight.
#70 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

What's to point of reading anything you post.

Especially since you copy and paste it from Twitter or Reddit.

What an idiot you are.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 02:58 PM | Reply

weren't you a pedophilia defender in LA?
POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You're literally defending pedophilia.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-11-12 03:01 PM | Reply

#73: Yes, I defended lots of pedophiles in criminal court. And I know a dead to rights' guilty client when I hear one and see the surrounding circumstances. If Trump was forced to trial for child molestation based on the evidence made public so far, it would take a jury less than an hour to convict him. I would almost certainly advise him to consider a plea bargain. And that is the truth based on over thirty years of working cases like this, and more than a hundred jury trials. The jury would NOT view Trump favorably.

In fact, other than public defenders who have no choice if the client chooses to go to jury on this type of strong circumstantial evidence , the only private attorneys willing to try cases like this are getting paid exhorbitant amounts or receiving tons of free publicity.

Trust me. This type of train wreck was my bread and butter for decades.

#82 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 03:03 PM | Reply

The last jury trial similar to this before retiring, I was able to finagle the district attorney to offer my client a probation disposition. The client turned it down insisting this was all just circumstantial and hearsay evidence. He is now currently serving 7y8m in prison. Pathetic.

#83 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 03:12 PM | Reply

#73

In America, which you've never seen, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty, and everyone gets a lawyer. You pathetic pile of dog shit.

#84 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-12 03:12 PM | Reply

...and at least Trump isn't gay!
#20 | Posted by snoofy

Except when he was inseminated by Roy Cohn, virtually or otherwise.

#85 | Posted by FortNecessity at 2025-11-12 03:18 PM | Reply

What do yall think of that?

Why is Trump covering for Clinton?

#86 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-12 03:22 PM | Reply

And you Moder8, Are the LAST person any of us would take law advice from....LOL

#52 | Posted by boaz at 2025-11-12 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:
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That's why she is appointed to those who need a free attorney. No one would hire her.

#87 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 03:23 PM | Reply

The Evangelical pedofascists don't believe in due process or habeas corpus, so it is unsurprising that you'd get a comment like #73 - not knowing the difference between representing a defandant who is a pedophile vs. defending pedophilia.

#88 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-11-12 03:23 PM | Reply

"Remember when we learned that our wealthiest and most powerful people were connected to a guy who ran a literal child sex trafficking ring? And then that guy died mysteriously in a jail? And now we just don't talk about it."

JD Vance, on Twitter in 2021.

#89 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 03:23 PM | Reply

#70

A bowl of soggy rice no taste nice!

#90 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-11-12 03:24 PM | Reply

So let me get this straight.
The victim mentioned in the email we all worked up about, but is redacted, is Virginia Giuffre, who already testified in a 2016 deposition that Trump "never participated in anything" and that she never witnessed him being inappropriate.
Also other emails confirms what was already known, that Trump told Ghislaine Maxwell to stop trying to recruit Mar-a-Lago employees and kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of the club for trying to seduce a member of the Mara-Largo staff.
Thats it? Thats what all this is about?
LOL A bowl of nothing.

#70 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag:
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You left out where Trump had a hooker pee on the bed the Obama's slept in.

#91 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 03:27 PM | Reply

Even if we disregard the Epstein files and the many other allegations, it's been well-known that Trump is a sick @#$% since at least the pussy tapes. How anyone can defend him is beyond me.

#78 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-11-12 02:57 PM | Reply | Flag:
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So Trump likes woman. Just because you don't doesn't make it wrong.

#92 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 03:30 PM | Reply


@meidastouch.com
Innocent people wouldn't need to hold an emergency meeting to try to find a way to block the release of the Epstein Files

The orange diaper sniper is anything but innocent.

#93 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 03:34 PM | Reply

"If Trump was forced to trial for child molestation based on the evidence made public so far, it would take a jury less than an hour to convict him."
#82 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-11-12 03:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sure, based on a redacted email. Even the NY Times won't print everything in them. He told Maxwell to stop? Yes, to stop stealing his staff.
Go watch Judge Judy, you might learn something.

#94 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-12 03:36 PM | Reply

Maybe it will push his mind and/or body over the edge.

That will be a good day.

#79 | POSTED BY ZED

So .. would we be lucky or unlucky that day?

Remember before you answer.. as CIC Trumpy has access to and controls the nuclear codes.

#95 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 03:39 PM | Reply

I've seen no smoking gun, only inuendo's from liberals.
But I am interested.
#50 | Posted by boaz

I take it that you are not much of a reader because Epstein used one of the most famous literary references in history to state that Trump was in on it. There's no ambiguity in that email.

#96 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-12 03:39 PM | Reply

Pedo 47 is a rapist.

www.washingtonpost.com

#97 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-12 03:40 PM | Reply

Oh, good... FishunderagedP is going to tell us what Trump and Epstein's 'wonderful secret' was.

And how Epstein biographer Wolff was hallucinating when Jeffrey showed him Polaroids of Trump with naked girls of indeterminate age.

I mean, a good-hearted, honest, ethical, moral and religious man like Trump is beyond reproach!

Hopefully Trump never tells Fishy jump offa cliff and take his Granny (girlfriend) with him.

I mean, any President of these here 'New-nited States who would murder nearly 1/2 a million children this year by cutting off their food and medicine without giving other nations and orgs the time to make up the difference.... why that Honorable Soul would NEVER diddle 13 year olds!

Are you people CRAZY?!

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 03:40 PM | Reply

#73: Yes, I defended lots of pedophiles in criminal court.

Then why would you get worked up over people on either side of this, to the point of taking away their rights?

And I know a dead to rights' guilty client when I hear one and see the surrounding circumstances.

This is just BS, similar to a shrink claiming someone is a psychopath without ever really interviewing them.

#99 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-12 03:41 PM | Reply

If he sexually assaulted her, he would have gotten a trial.
#50 | Posted by boaz

That is not true.
New York couldn't try him criminally because the statue of limitations had expired when she came forward. Civil trial is the only option they had.

#100 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-12 03:43 PM | Reply

MSNBC - Epstein emails
CNN - Epstein emails
FOX "news" - Venezuela, UC San Diego report on declining math skills, Harvard struggling to address grade inflation, Congressman Van Orden riding his motorcycle to DC...

#101 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-11-12 03:48 PM | Reply

He told Maxwell to stop? Yes, to stop stealing his staff?

By "staff" you mean young underage girls willing to give old men massages (and especially The Special) for money.

#102 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-12 03:49 PM | Reply

Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mara-lago years before Epstein's arrest.

The shows Trump may have known Epstein's proclivity for young girls or maybe it doesn't. Just like these messages.

It also shows Trump doesn't condone it.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-12 03:54 PM | Reply

It also shows Trump doesn't condone it.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson

Or just doing CYA.

#104 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-12 03:57 PM | Reply

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy," he said.

"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it " Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

;;

"I have met some very bad people, none as bad as Trump," Epstein wrote in 2017 to former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers. "Not one decent cell in his body."

from the emails

For when the Pedo King Sex Trafficker thinks you are the worst person he ever met.

#105 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-12 03:57 PM | Reply

similar to a shrink claiming someone is a psychopath without ever really interviewing them.

#99 | Posted by oneironaut

Once they do things like rape and murder you no longer need a shrink.

Donald Trump's inner life is clearly visible through his visible behavior.

"Psychopath" is, at this point, a very viable description.

#106 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-12 03:59 PM | Reply

similar to a shrink claiming someone is a psychopath without ever really interviewing them.

#99 | Posted by oneironaut

Do you wait for a mechanic to tell you that you wrecked your car?

You saw the damned wreck; you were in the car The idea that the twisted metal needs to be "examined" is ludicrous.

#107 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-12 04:01 PM | Reply

And why are we going to just automatically take Epstein's word for anything.

Of course, boaz is a pedo defender.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-12 04:02 PM | Reply

Next thing you know, he and the other maga s^%# stains will be talking about how statutory rape laws are BS and should be done away with because 13 isn't really that young and if there's grass on the field you should be able to play ball ...

They're sick, awful people entirely beholden to a sick, awful person.

#109 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-12 04:06 PM | Reply

Fish-boy has chosen to double-down on stupidity.

He likes ol' bozo's style.

#110 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-11-12 04:08 PM | Reply

Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mara-lago years before Epstein's arrest.
The shows Trump may have known Epstein's proclivity for young girls or maybe it doesn't. Just like these messages.
It also shows Trump doesn't condone it.
#103 | Posted by BillJohnson

Trump has publicly stated that the the reason Epstein was barred was not because of the sex trafficking but was because he was poaching Trump's employees after Trump told him to stop.
But let's say you are correct and Trump knew and didn't condone it. Then you are acknowledging that Trump knew but engage in the cover up.

#111 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-11-12 04:10 PM | Reply

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