" Isn't that what you're suggesting is needed?"

No, I'm saying we already have proof, based on things like history, occurrences, human nature, and over 150 years of experience.

Versus your evidence-free feelings.

Sorry, feelings without proof don't hold up in court.

"That's what audits would provide. Proof."

You need some irregularity first. Where's your evidence?

Specifically, where's your evidence you don't want them to keep recounting until your team wins?

More to the point: do you realize the folks you want to give power to, just claimed one state had 16,000 illegal voters on the roles, and then, upon investigation, it turned out there were only 185 "possibilities"?

The same folks who claimed Good and Pretti were terrorists before their bodies returned to room temperature.

You want to give them MORE power???

"If we're going to socialize the inputs, we should as well socialize the output."

We do. Everyone gets to benefit from scientific breakthroughs.

Are you not paying attention?

"Is this orwellianesque agency going to shift its focus as 'whites' become the 'minority'?"

Depends.

Will all the research done on the majority suddenly disappear?

" I do know the federal government is being required to accept results from states they are kept at arms length to verify."

And you want to pretend that's some kind of scandal.

Without proof, without witnesses, without Team Trump even UTTERING the word "fraud" inside a courtroom.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You have only one of the two.

Your gut feelings are meaningless without evidence. Especially since your solution is 1000x worse than the problem.

It would take your home state 4,400 years to rack up as much voter fraud as you would suppress in one election cycle.

"I should be embarrassed about is that I respond to your idiotic posts."

You spend more time telling me you shouldn't respond than you do responding.

Why don't you tell me how much more you think Democrats commit voter fraud than Republicans and be done with it?

Why are you afraid of answering that question?

"You people are embarrassing."

Why?"

Sore losers.

FFS, you're pretending California should be investigated. That's like double-checking Wyoming.

"there should be an audit process overseen from outside the state."

Look up ninja and AZ recount.

You people are embarrassing.

"Self audits conducted by a state are useful for the state's own purposes, but they don't provide truly independent verification."

GA's and AZ's proved, again and again, the accuracy.

You just a sore loser, and want them to keep re-counting until Republicans win.

"I don't think you fully understand what an audit consists of."

Oh, I think I do. Quite well.

But you tell us. Use Georgia and Arizona to explain.

You want them to keep recounting until Republicans win.

"That's why audits exist."

There are state self-audits all the time. Utah just scoured its voter rolls and found ONE illegal registered ...

... who had never voted.

160 years for the armed services, 30 years for Oregon, and decades for another dozen states. and in toto ... zero proof ... and now you're demanding an audit?!? This is becoming silly.

Nothing other than changing the final tally in your favor has become acceptable.

"or pumping the M2 Money supply to the heavens under COVID??"

Trump wanted a 42% higher stimulus than Biden had. And Trump is directly responsible the first two stimulus payments, as well as the ppp. Not to mention the trillions and trillions extra borrowed for tax giveaways.

Blaming Biden for inflation that would've been worse under Trump is moronic.

" Workers' share of U.S. income has already fallen to its lowest level on record, while corporate profit margins keep breaking records quarter by quarter."

Not a bug; a feature by design.

"Workers' share of U.S. income has already fallen to its lowest level on record, while corporate profit margins keep breaking records quarter by quarter."

Admittedly, that's just the math, so there's that.

"CA makes what used to be described as cheating, legal."

What a riot.

Even if this cockamamie theory was correct, then what? It's going to counteract MILLIONS of votes???

"That's what I believe too."

Republican Math is a dangerous thing.

"DeflectionDan strikes again,"

FFS, even YOU aren't stupid enough to believe that.

Where's the unfair question, Einstein?

"CA makes what used to be (inaccurately) described as cheating,"

FTFY.

Unless, of course, you can point to EXTRA votes being cast.

"you just want to play games."

WTF are you talking about? You asked me a fair question, and I pointed out you hadn't answered MY fair question.

And since the answer is so freaking simple...it's clear you can't even handle YOUR OWN truth.

Run away if you want. Answer if you have any class.

"With any luck, MAGA will be so shunned by society they'll have to live in tent camps that constantly get destroyed by the cops so they have to move and rebuild"

I felt the same: I thought if Cheney didn't have his sixth-and-final heart attack the moment he opened his first pension check from Haliburton...there is no God.

Why hath he forsaken me?
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